The Pancake Theory: Introduction

[andy7666]

And the third building fell in this way too? What a joke..

[britishnick]

There are no pancakes at the bottom. only obliterated building - dust.

I haven't seen any good arguemnts / proof backing muchof the offical story. It's a lie.

either you are in denial based on an in ability to open your mind to the posisblities or you are here purely to put out lies.

[911NeverForget]

no pancakes at the bottom? you dont even get what my point in the vid is.

and the building wasnt completely dust.

and you havent made any good arguments, even though the proof of the terrorists has been shown time and time again...not my fault you ignore it.

im not in denial, and i dont put out "lies". thats what you guys do.

[zoskiaist]

and when you google 911 research be careful not to go to the pipex domain. which is pure misinformation. Put up recently, with almost the same name as Hoffman's site, spend five minutes there and I defy anyone to not think it 'is all total nonsense' Obviously a misinfo site (no contact details) it is there to misdirect and confuse people into thinking that is 9/11 Truth. There is a lot of that. But if you stick to clear unquestioned facts, well, you'll get stuck lots of ?? and no good answers.

[911NeverForget]

"be careful not to go to the pipex domain. which is pure misinformation" i tell you not to do the same thing.

"clear unquestioned facts" which isnt what you guys have.

[zoskiaist]

911 was an inside job bc that is what the evidence shows. Explain a fire and gravity collapse that can evaporate almost 1100 people, turn concrete to powder, bury huge steel beams in buildings 100s of feet away?

Explain the put and call options b4 the attack, the melted steel, the residual heat, the micr-spheres, the squibs, WTC 7s perfect implosion.

Do not say, 'I am not an engineer' !!

Our criminal justice system is based on lay people deciding bt'wn competing experts

Google - 911 Research

[911NeverForget]

"...people" and of course, you dont prove they vaporize or not.

"...powder" you guys always underestimate the energy the collapse had.

"...away?" the pancaking building allowed them to travel huge distances.

"...attack" proof?

"...steel" not proven.

"...micr-spheres" proof?

"...squibs" as the building collapsed, it contained huge pressure on the floors below and sent hurricane force winds down the building. the debris is forced out from the wind and pressure out the windows.

[911NeverForget]

"...implosion" it wasnt perfect. the building was split in two parts from the collapse sequence and fell to the south.

[zoskiaist]

'the towers were unique compared to most buildings.'

Called a 'tube within a tube' structure..

There was nothing wrong with the design of these (WTC 1&2) highly redundant structures, it was an award winning design that has since become the standard for skyscrapers since.

Unfortunately the facts are such that 9-11 could only have occurred with the use of explosives. See work by Jim Hoffman (and many others) Much more compelling than empty statements/

[911NeverForget]

"the facts are such that 9-11 could only have occurred with the use of explosives." wrong.

"See work by Jim Hoffman (and many others)" god forbid we should listen to random people and not experts...*rolls eyes*

"Much more compelling than empty statements" and just what were they?

[zoskiaist]

actually hoffman and jones and ryan are all scientists, but you dont have to be scientist to figure out the obvious. Just keep an open mind (like juror) and look at the facts. If you cannot explain observed events with a particular theory, then your hypothesis is incorrect. believe me when I say, you cannot imagine how I wish you were correct. Unfortunately we must deal with reality.

'You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts''

see stj911 or 911research

[zoskiaist]

ps. the 'empty statements' are what you make.

Saying something will not make it so.

As a scientist (ie reasonable person) your job is to prove yourself wrong. That is what we all, those of use seeking the truth, want.

[911NeverForget]

"the 'empty statements' are what you make. " and i again ask just what are they?

"your job is to prove yourself wrong." your job is to prove your theory, not for me to do it for you.

"That is what we all, those of use seeking the truth, want." and the truth is sitting right in front of you.

[911NeverForget]

"actually hoffman and jones and ryan are all scientists" out of hundreds of others who disagree with them.

"you dont have to be scientist to figure out the obvious." it isnt obvious.

"if you cannot explain observed events with a particular theory" and ive been able to explain it all.

"we must deal with reality" and the reality is that 9/11 was an outside job.

[BILLCLINTONCAUSED911]

so do you believe there were explosives planted at every floor? haha

[joeavery66]

Inside job. Explosives. Wake up, America.

[911NeverForget]

wrong. wasnt explosives.

[spiralforce09]

your right, in actuality the towers were sand castles.

[911NeverForget]

they werent sand castles either, just unique in design and tall.

[spiralforce09]

unique in the fact that literally provided as much resistance as sand castles?

whos do you think designed the towers, Krusty the Klown?

[911NeverForget]

no. they were designed in a unique way and was unique in the fact its 110 stories tall...not as common as you think.

"whos do you think designed the towers, Krusty the Klown?" no.

[spiralforce09]

so just because its not a "common design" thats reason in itself for providing No resistance, Ok got it.

[911NeverForget]

"No resistance" i never said or implied that had anything to do with that.

[spiralforce09]

then what is your point?

[911NeverForget]

the towers were unique compared to most buildings.

[spiralforce09]

where going around in circles here, so how is that relevant to the collapse?

[911NeverForget]

it would help cause the "squibs" seen.

it would help save some survivors of the collapses.

[LOF93]

no mong

[911NeverForget]

huh?