From Mormon to Apatheist 3

[peterpulpitpounder]

Ask a Mormon who will built the New Jerusalem, where it will be built, and when it will be built, and you will get three grossly unbiblical answers. Their Gospel Principles manual states that the saints will build it, that it will be built just before Christ's returns, and that it will be built in the state of missouri. But the Bible says it will be built by God, will descend out of heaven to earth, and will be introduced a 1000 years after Christ returns. I choose to believe the Bible.

[Yunginspirit]

It's a shame she started telling untruths about halfway thru, re no proof of archaelogical evidences, which is not true. There are lot's of evidences that the BoM is true. I feel sorry for this lady. She tries to make very light of important things and/or doesn't tell the full story. Oh well, it's her choice to leave. God bless her.

[ExmormonFoundation]

Well, perhaps you should ask yourself, why the world's scientific communities have not accepted this "evidence" as Mormons claim. Why would the world's scientific community do this? Satan? A conspiracy against the truth? Just a plain dislike of Mormons?  The reality is dear defender that Mormonism has no evidence to support its claims. From global floods, light borrowing suns and the BoM as ancient American scripture, the evidence simply is not there to substantiate the claims.

All the best!

[Yunginspirit]

@Exmormon: BTW, if you viewed my channel you'd know I'm a gal, not a guy. ; )

[ExmormonFoundation]

Sorry. I did not look at your channel. I don't want to fight with you, I just want you to investigate the claims of your religion and see what the EVIDENCE shows. I always cite the example of the Mormon claim of their being a global flood. It's a great place to start in gathering evidence to see if such was real. The evidence shows that there was no such deluge and that such was impossible. How could Elohim get such a thing wrong? What else did "he" get wrong? Evidence is the key.

[Yunginspirit]

@Exmo: I see...you don't want to 'fight with me?" I thought we were just having a friendly discussion. Perhaps you have already perused the link of 'evidences' of the BoM I have on my channel...and have no comeback? Lots of scientific evidences there. Most Scientists will not accept BoM claims because they lack the faith & spiritual insight of Christians. Approx' 2/3 of US Scientists are Atheists, but interestingly, the state with the most scientists per capita is...Utah! Home of the Mormons.

[ExmormonFoundation]

@Yunginspirit

Yes, that's it. The overwhelming "scientific" evidences for the the BoM have simply overwhelmed me. I'm going back to Mormonism. I would ask if you are for real, but unfortunately you are, a real, deluded, brainwashed believer of utter nonsense. If Mormonism was what it claimed to be, the evidence would be everywhere, and even the "evil" Atheist would recognize such. Unfortunately for you it does not take special Mormon warm fuzzies to recognize evidence. Let me help you out:

[ExmormonFoundation]

If your claims are real, please provide scientifically sourced documentation for:

*Lamanites, even just one Lamanite

*Semitic DNA in pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere

*If the BoM happened in Mesoamerica, why the inspired Indian Placement program in North America?

*Nephite artifact in Western Hemisphere or any Hemisphere

*Any Book of Mormon city

*Pollen grains of wheat, flax, figs in Western Hemisphere during BofM times

*Slag heaps of pre-Columbian steel making

[ExmormonFoundation]

*Silk in pre-Columbian Western Hemisphere

*Linguistic evidence of Hebrew or Reformed Egyptian or even Egyptian in the Western Hemisphere

*Horse or elephant fossil during BoM times

*Evidence of Nephite/Lamanite civilizations numbering in the millions

*Egyptologists on the veracity of the Book of Abraham translation

*Evidence for the global Noachian flood, tower of Babel

Perhaps all scientists & the scientific community are in a conspiracy to persecute the “Only True Church.”

[Yunginspirit]

@ExmormonFoundation: LOL! And having Faith in God is exactly that!..."Faith is the substance of things hoped for; the EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN." No skeptic or person totally lacking in faith will have the Truth made known unto them. You should know that, considering that you were once LDS. I realize that some LDS have not had the Spirit actually witness to them whether the BoM is true (as It has to me) but somehow, they still believe because they have that inner 6th sense and believe it..

[ExmormonFoundation]

By your "logic" Harry Potter may just be an account of real events, or perhaps Lord of the Rings is actually a reality. Evidence is not necessary if you have faith right? Why not the Koran and Allah? or Scientology's "Dianetics." Surely you are lacking sufficient faith in the veracity of L. Ron Hubbard's words as a messenger of Lord Xenu! You simply lack the faith! The spirit of Xenu will testify of its truthfulness if you only have faith! Extraordinary Claims REQUIRE Extraordinary Evidence.

[exmoagogo]

There are so many evidences that the Book of Mormon is true that none of them are officially endorsed by Mormon leaders.

[Yunginspirit]

@exmoagogo - Yes, they are, in fact can be found in Church publications and books, etc. Check out the links on my channel. : )

[peterpulpitpounder]

@exmoagogo

Let's here them.

[Suzyqalso]

I would love to see your list of undeniable evidences, written down and sent here. Truly I would love to see it. Will you do that?

[exmoagogo]

@Yunginspirit

None of those "evidences" are officially endorsed by the First Presidency.

All articles by Church apologists are hedged by a disclaimer that the information contained in the article is the opinion of the author and not an official position of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Now there's real courage for you!

[Yunginspirit]

@exmoagogo: Physical evidences that line up with stories in the BoM such as archaeological artifacts, do not have to be officially endorsed by the First Presidency of the Church. The objects are visual and tangible evidence in and of themselves. Everyone is encouraged to do their own research, studying, praying and pondering to get to the truth. It's the 'spiritual' confirmation of Truth that really matters in the end.

[exmoagogo]

@Yunginspirit

".....do not have to be officially endorsed by the First Presidency....."

Then why won't they?

What a bunch of baloney. Your own "prophets" won't endorse any of it.

You know full well that if there were one genuine shred of evidence they would toot their horn long and loud and not be afraid to sign off on it.

They really stepped in it when they fell for Mark Hoffmann's forgeries.

They're not about to get burned again.

[GetMeThere1]

They didn't build boats. They built SUBMARINES! hehehe...