It is not Shirk to pray in front of a grave, as long as you are praying only to Allah. However if you are praying to the occupier of the grave for intercession or something else then this is absolutely shirk. The only being you should ever pray to is the one and only creator of the universe; Allah.
and understand one thing..... quraan alone is the revelation of ALLAH swt.... where as hadit is a record like history...... i accept all the hadith r not true.... but authentic hadit which were recorded with full sciencirety and care... r sahi bukhari... and sahi muslim.... u follow the sunnah of prophet..... through them and whome do u follou.. and if u follow prophet how?.. if u say through quraan.... then i bet u that there no much detail in quraan abt PROPHET..
@ali8210...... tell me frankly that u dont call yaali madad.... dont u hit ur self... not only salaat and haj will make u a muslim.... u must also follow.... MUHAMMAD saw ..... in turn u do biddath..... invations fabrications.... hitting onself for hassan hussain.. is not a part of islam.... v atleast follow the hadit which r authentic.. with deep research.... u do not kno how prophet lived if u do not have hadees...quraan did not say any thing about howprophet lived.. v get it from hadees
and you said everything we do is against islam, so your saying that allah is wrong and the prophet is wrong and the imams are wrong because we follow them
can you tell me what was wrong in the video you watched??? ^^^^
and advice for you first you need to read and listing to what we say and believe then you can Accuse us of and this is a sine in islam if you read quran
1. when we say quran is incompleted is becaouse quran is not any book you can undersstand and it has a lot of hiddin knowledge that only the prophet and ahil al bait know it
2. sahi al bukhari and Muslim they both were writing by humans and its full of mistakes and i can prove it. why do you not only follow the quran?
3. hadeth by the prophet ( i am the city if knowledge and ali is the door if you want to enter the city you need to go through the door first)
subhanallah this man knows wat hes talking bout, let the ignorant comment!!, when u got the quran to back u up like this, then y do the ignorant to try refute wat hes saying? if theyr trying to refute this man, it means theyr refuting the very quran they love n read....
Asalamu alaikum, everyone please watch the videos "12 Rightly Guided Caliphs" & after that "Why I became Shia" you can search them in YouTube or watch them on my Channel.
@AbuQatadah96 Hahaha he has proven you wrong so you just insult him. Typical wahhabbi attitude. In my lifetime I have never seen a Shia' curse the Sahaba (only Muawiyah and Yazid). I think no Shia should ever curse the Sahaba, this is very wrong. I typed in to youtube 'Shia cursing Sahaba' i only saw one video of some unkown Shia cursing the sahaba in his dua. But then the leader of Hezbollah gave an excellent response to this. Check it out. We dont curse the Sahaba man.
@iranianbasiji no ,i just need to type here on youtube "shia insult sahaba" and you will see many video ;) ,and btw not hizbullah exactly ,but hizbul syaitan
@AbuQatadah96 Asalaamo alaykum brother, i think u hv been mistaken! he is not a stupid man, how can u call some teaching about Islam a stupid man! yes he doesnt have a beard tht doesnt mean his teachin is wrong, nor does it affect anything he is sayin! NOR, is he insultig or makin his followers hate the sahaba!
@AbuQatadah96 May Allah guide u 2 the right path! We'll all wait 4 the arrival of imam mahdi (a.s) and we'll all c who is right! theres no point in bickering whos right or wrong!
I welcome well-mannered discussion, so the reader is very welcome to send me a message (directly).
Tawheed is the foundation of our religion, without which there is NO Islam and NO Iman (faith).
In order to understand Shirk (polytheism/ associating partners with Allaah), we must understand the Shirk of the Pagans of old, whom the Islamic revelation speaks of.
The Mushrikeen of old exaggerated the status of dead pious people to a level of intermediary and intercessor - This is a great sin.
@PGMv3 many companion's graves are burried in mosques like khaled ibn al waleed in syra. all arab leaders when they die many of them are burried in mosques does that mean u worship them u ignorant?
The Shirk (polytheism/ associating partners with Allaah) of the Pagans of old:
Qur'aan - And they worship besides Allâh things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allâh." Say: "Do you inform Allâh of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?" Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him! (Yunus 10:18).
SO ALLAAH NAMED THIS ACTION AS SHIRK (associating partners with Allaah/ polytheism).
The grave-worshippers from among the Sufis & Shias (not all Sufis & Shias by the way), say that we have not taken the Prophet, Awliya, Ahlul Bayt etc as partners with Allaah, rather we have only taken them as intermediaries & intercessors who bring us closer to Allaah.
*** HOWEVER - THIS IS THE SAME SHIRK, THE SAME REASONING AND THE SAME ACT AS THE MUSHRIKEEN OF OLD WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD ***
Shirk is Shirk, no matter whom you invoke/ worship besides Allaah.
Let us now see the nature of the Shirk of the Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) at the time of the Prophet
Qur'aan - Surely, the religion (i.e. the worship and the obedience) is for Allâh only. And those who take Auliyâ (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say): "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allâh." Verily, Allâh will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allâh guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever. (Az-Zumar 39:3)
Muslims worship Allaah, alone, without associating any partners with Allaah. This includes the act of supplication/ dua/ invocation. The Prophet Muhammad told us that dua is worship.
That means when a Muslim performs the act of DUA - Then he calls upon Allaah, alone and NOT to any created being.
In Islam, anyone can invoke Allaah DIRECTLY, indeed Allaah hears all the supplications of all the people in their various languages. Allaah is merciful to His creation and can answer anybody.
Sufis, Shias & the Mushrikeen of old all generally affirm that Allaah provides, sustains, manages the affairs & that the creation is subservient to Allaah - But Tawheed (monotheism) does NOT stop here.
Sufis, Shias & Mushrikeen of old all generally believe that those whom they call upon for intercession have no power by themselves - But Tawheed goes further.
ISLAAM STATES - That in addition to affirming Lordship for Allaah, alone, that we should also worship Him, only.
The Mushrikeen whom the Islamic texts speak of, did NOT believe their idols had any power by themselves. They only called upon them in their duas to intercede with Allaah.
But - ALLAAH and HIS MESSENGER DECLARED THE PAGANS OF OLD TO BE UPON SHIRK (polytheism/ associating partners with Allaah).
Why? Because the Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) of old gave a share of their worship (ie. dua/ supplication) to others besides Allaah, so the Mushrikeen of old associated partners with Allaah in worship.
The Mushrikeen of old used to supplicate/dua to angels, to the pious dead, to idols in order to get closer to Allaah
The Mushrikeen of old believed that the Angels, the pious dead, idols etc had a high status with Allaah, so the Mushrikeen used to supplicate/ invoke these created beings in the hope that these created beings would intercede for them
The Mushrikeen took these beings as intermediaries between themselves and Allaah
BUT ALLAAH DECLARED THE PAGANS TO BE UPON SHIRK ON ACCOUNT OF THIS
The Pagans at the time of the Prophet used to believe that Allaah controls the affairs, that Allaah provides, sustains, gives life and that the creation is subservient to Allaah.
BUT - This was not enough to enter the Pagans of old into the Tawheed (monotheism) which the Prophet was calling them to.
Why? Because despite affirming the aforementioned aspects of Lordship for Allaah, the Pagans worshipped others besides Allaah.
So, the Pagans of old were declared to be upon Shirk (polytheism).
Pagans at the time of the Prophet Muhammad and before were declared to be upon Shirk (polytheism)
Why? The Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) of olden times used to supplicate/ dua to Angels, to dead pious people, to idols and more.
Why did the Mushrikeen of old do this? In order to seek the intercession of these created beings with Allaah
Why did they seek intercession from these beings? Because the Mushrikeen believed that those they supplicated to were closer to Allaah and had status with Allaah
HADEETH - The Prophet Muhammad said: "If you ask, ask of Allaah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allaah." [Tirmidthee, good and authentic]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Dua is worship". [SAHEEH (authentic) - Reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunans].
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Whosoever dies whilst making du’aa (invocation, supplication) to others besides Allaah, will enter the HellFire." [Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 4297)]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Allaah cursed the Jews and the Christians for taking the graves of their prophets as Masjids." -- Refer to the English Translation of Saheeh Bukhari, Book of Prayer, volume 1, Book 8, Hadeeth no: 427 & 428.
From Abu Al-Hayaaj Al-Asadiy who said Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me "I am dispatching you upon what the Messenger dispatched me upon, that, "you do not leave statues except you deface it nor a grave raised except you level it"
This narration is in Kitaab ul-Janaaiz 2/666 in Muslim.
Omg, I don't understand why there are 65 dislikes and people still arguing. What on earth are you arguing about? You've just been proven wrong. Can't you handle the truth or something?
You have a question on a verse. U go to a sheik to get an explanation. You could ask God to "inspire the answer in your heart" so u have it- And God is PERFECTLY CAPABLE of doing that. But you go through a middleman when you could just right to God? U just asked help from someone who isn't God, making u a Mushrik?
Quran 3:169 says think of the Shaheed as alive, not dead . Saying "Ali, please help me" is not asking a dead person for help, it's asking a LIVING person for help.
In sura 12:4, a young Prophet Yusef tells his father that the planets or stars were bowing down to him. So they were worshiping him? No. Or when the angels bowed to Adam, where they worshiping him?
Quran 18:21-- God seems to ENDORSE putting a MASJID over graves. The graves of 18:21 weren't being worshiped. Just like graves of our imams. Everything you say is refuted by the speaker. Peace.
Among the types of Shirk is Shirk related to worship. This occurs when a person directs an act of worship to others besides Allah. A person who does this is a Mushrik (polytheist/ pagan/ one who associates partners with Allah).
Shirk is the worst sin in Islam. Shirk negates and expels from Islam.
Many Shias worship their Imams alongside Allah, so Shias give a share of their worship to others besides Allah. By doing this they have associated partners with Allah in worship.
@PGMv3 Shia's never worship imam's beside god, where did you get this from? Get your facts straight before accuse a sect of something they never even done! Lies!
Dua / supplication is clearly an act of worship, so this act of worship (just like all acts of worship) can only be directed to Allah - The sole Lord, Creator and Provider of all that exists.
Created beings or objects do NOT deserve ANY act of worship.
Even if the created beings were great pious men, such as the Prophets or others like Ali or Al-Husain - This is NOT a factor, because ONLY THE CREATOR DESERVES TO BE WORSHIPPED.
HADEETH - The Prophet Muhammad said: "If you ask, ask of Allah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allah." [Tirmidthee, good and authentic]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Dua is worship". [SAHEEH (authentic) - Reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunans).
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Whosoever dies whilst making du'aa (invocation, supplication) to others besides Allah, will enter the HellFire." [Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 4297)]
Shias supplicate/ dua to their Imams eg: "O Husain intercede for me" or "O Ali help me" - These two examples show that Shias direct an act of worship (in this case dua/ supplication) to Ali and Al-Husain.
BUT IN ISLAM - There is no created being or object that deserves to be worshipped. That includes the fact that there is no created being or object that deserves to be prayed to / dua/ supplicated to.
IN ISLAM - Only The Creator (Who is Allah) deserves ALL our acts of worship.
There is NO (true) ilah except Allah, which means there is NO god/deity/object of worship except Allah
When a Muslim says this, then he can only direct ALL his acts of worship to Allah. That includes the act of worship called - dua (supplication/invocation)
If a person directs ANY act of worship to others besides Allah,then this person has committed Shirk (associated partners with Allah)
Many (not all) Shias supplicate to others besides Allah,which means they worship others besides Allah.
This point has been explained in numerous posts on this video's pages.
However, to reiterate if a person invokes / calls upon others besides Allah when performing DUA / supplication - Then this person has worshipped other than Allah.
Why and how has this person worshipped other than Allah?
Answer - Because DUA / supplication is an act of worship.
In Islam all acts of worship can only be directed to Allah, alone, Who is the sole Lord, Creator and Provider of all that exists.
Quran 3:169 says think of them as alive, not dead. You say think of them as dead and gone. I'll take the Quran.
food for thought-
Quran has an example of ppl asking their prophet for things instead of God as an intermediary - like in 2:246, they ask a Prophet for something instead of directly asking God. Then the prophet says God appointed Talut as King over you. They used a middleman. to reach God, and God used a middleman to get back to his servants.
Muslims love the Prophet Muhammad, his family and companions. Muslims also love all Prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
However, our love should be as Allaah wishes is to be.
So love of the righteous Muslims means that we follow them.
Love does NOT mean we can supplicate/ dua to them. Love does NOT mean we can build shrines above their graves. Love does NOT mean exaggerating the status of the righteous
The righteous all supplicated/ dua/ worshipped Allaah, ALONE - Let us follow them
Saying, understanding and adhering to LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH is a good thing, as this statement is the foundation of Islaam and without it there is no Islaam and no faith
This statement means that None has the right to be worshipped except Allaah, which includes the fact that none can be supplicated/ dua/ invoked except Allaah
Since many Shias invoke/dua others besides Allaah, thus worshipping others besides Allaah, this means Shias are NOT Muslims because they do NOT adhere to Islaam's foundation
The word ILAAH as used in the Qur'aan includes whatever is worshipped & called upon in dua/ supplication
So for example, Shias supplicate to their Imams, which means Shias have taken their Imams as ILAAHs besides Allaah - This means that despite Shias saying LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH, they do NOT actually practise it.
The Shia practice of supplicating/dua to their Imams means they do NOT really adhere to LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH
That means that Shias do NOT even adhere to the very foundation of Islaam.
If you look at Shia worship at their shrines (ie. Najaf, Karbala etc), you will see the way Shias approach their Imams and ask from them is itself an act of worship.
It is a Shia act of worship to visit the Imams at shrines and then to supplicate/ dua to them in order to seek help and intercession.
The above description is the type of devotion which is the SOLE RIGHT OF ALLAAH.
One reason many of the Shia are Mushrikeen, is because they give a share of their worship to others besides Allaah. As we should know, DUA/ supplication is an act of worship (quite different from asking someone who is ALIVE & PRESENT).
Now because Shias direct their supplications/ invocations to their Imams (to seek help & intercession), they are thus associating partners with Allaah in WORSHIP by giving a share of their worship to others besides Allaah - That is Shirk.
The Mushrikeen (polytheists/ pagans) of olden times (whom the Islaamic texts speak of), used to worship dead pious people, angels and idols ALONGSIDE worshipping Allaah.
In times of ease, the Mushrikeen would worship angels, dead pious people, idols.
In times of hardship they used to worship Allaah, alone.
How did they worship others besides Allaah?
Answer - They used to supplicate/ dua to angels, the pious dead, idols to seek their intercession with Allaah - BUT ISLAAM CLASSED THIS AS SHIRK.
Shirk is to associate partners with Allaah. 2 examples of Shirk (polytheism) are:
1/ If a person believes there is another creator and lord besides Allaah - This person has committed SHIRK in LORDSHIP - Why? Because Allaah is the only Lord of all that exists and none can share in His Lordship.
2/ If a person worships others alongside Allaah - This person has committed SHIRK in WORSHIP - Why? It is NOT allowed to give a share of one's worship to others besides Allaah.
Building upon graves and raising graves high is FORBIDDEN in Islaam.
Building shrines above graves leads to exaggeration of the dead.
At these shrines, Shias supplicate/ dua to the dead, asking them for help and intercession - This is Shirk because:
In Islaam all worship (including supplication/ prayer/ dua/ invoking) can only be to Allaah. So if a person directs any act of worship to other than Allaah, then this person has committed Shirk by giving a share of his worship to other than Allaah.
From Abu Al-Hayaaj Al-Asadiy who said Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me "I am dispatching you upon what the Messenger dispatched me upon, that, "you do not leave statues except you deface it nor a grave raised except you level it"
This narration is in Kitaab ul-Janaaiz 2/666 in Muslim.
QUR'AAN - And the mosques are for Allâh (Alone), so invoke not anyone along with Allâh. (Al-Jinn 72:18)
Muslims are only allowed to invoke Allaah in supplication/ dua.
For example, a Muslim raises his hands and invokes/ calls upon Allaah, alone - "O Allaah heklp me, guide me and protect me".
But, there are many Shias who direct their supplications to others besides Allaah, such. An example of a Shia dua: "O Alee help me" - Islaam does NOT allow this.
QUR'AAN - And your Lord said: "Invoke Me, [i.e. believe in My Oneness
(Islâmic Monotheism)] (and ask Me for anything) I will respond to your (invocation). Verily! Those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islâmic Monotheism)] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!" (Ghafir 40:60)
In Islaam, we CANNOT invoke/ supplicate/ dua anyone EXCEPT Allaah.
Dua is an act of worship and in Islaam ALL acts of worship can only be directed to Allaah.
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "If you ask, ask of Allaah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allaah." [Tirmidthee, good and authentic]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: “Dua is worship”. [SAHEEH (authentic) - Reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunans].
HADEETH - The Prophet said: “Whosoever dies whilst making du'aa (invocation, supplication) to others besides Allaah, will enter the HellFire.” [Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 4297), from Ibn Mas'ood]
Indeed, mosques on top of graves is forbidden in Islaam. In regards
to the Prophet's (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) grave and his two noble companions (radhi-yAllaahu 'anhumaa), then they were buried in the house of the Prophet and NOT the masjid.
But later on, the masjid was expanded and eventually included the graves. This was an error. I'm sure you'll agree, that this expansion cannot be used as a proof for building mosques above graves as The Prophet forbade that.
One of the Muslim rulers of the Umayyad period, Alwaleed bin Abdul-Malik bin Marwaan (he became the Muslim ruler in the year 86 A.H. till 96 A.H), he decided to expand the Prophet's Masjid, he included the house of the Prophet as part of the Masjid, due to his intended extension. Alwaleed bin Abdul-Malik bin Marwaan committed an error when he did this.
What was obligatory upon him (Alwaleed) was not to include the house of the Prophet as part of the Masjid so that the ignorant people would not be
able to use this as evidence, and others that may advance themselves with this argument and present similar doubts. Without a doubt the people of knowledge rejected and refuted Alwaleed bin Abdul-Malik bin Marwaan with regards to this action of his.
reply to irooni100 its sense less to say a muslim should have his beard foot long length, and long dress, beard is sign of muslim and sunnah of messanger pbuh,the hell fire is prepared for you not for me,eat, drink and enjoy your self hell fire is near you allah and his angels be curse on you
my Brother before giving lecture about islam where is your beard, your not a suitable person first of all,grave of aboobucker and others were situated beside madina mosque,at the time of renovation they cannot move it thats why the let it as its know the reason
@thuanmohamed They go and bomb the other grave sights but have no problem with this one? Interesting.
The beard issue is your knock on this guy. You can't refute anything he says. I'll accept the beard issue as legit, but when it comes to his words, you are silent. There's a fat guy who chose Shia Islam and explains why in 3-4 vids, called something like "why I became Shia part 1" he uses Sooni hadith books to prove Shia Islam correct. Refute him. Peace.
"Abu'l-Hayyaj al-Asadi told that 'Ali (b. Abu Talib) said to him: 'Should I not send you on the same mission as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent me'? 'Do not leave an image without obliterating it, or a high grave without levelling It'. This hadith has been reported by Habib with the same chain of transmitters and he said: ('Do not leave) a picture without obliterating it'.
@sniperb6 relax!he made some good pionts, dont you think, but just one thing thou, i was told has a child a grave should be unbaked, so i think that means not really built properly???
all the shias I asked just keep escaping from answering this question.
who are the shia? what do they believe in? what do you think of Ali Bin Abi Talib (rAa), Abu Bakr(rAa), Omar(rAa), Aisha(rAa), and Hafsa(rAa)?
and why are they doing these slaughters in Ashoora'a (10th of Muharram), eg: injuring their heads and keeping blood coming all over their bodies and hitting on their heads, plus what they do by beating themselves in their backs by some metal wires.
@iHateMyLifeGr Salam brother. Shias believe in Allah (swt), the Prophet (s), Quran and Ahl al-Bayt ('a) as the rightful successors because they are the most knowledgeable, truthful and best leaders and interpreters of the Holy Quran. The sahabas are judged by Allah (swt) as everybody else, they can either go to Paradise / Hell, be true believers or hypocrites depending on their actions.
@iHateMyLifeGr It's haram to hit yourself till you bleed according to the Leader (Imam Khamenei). Please read about what happened in Karbala, then you will see why we mourn and beat our chests. We will continue till the ummah will wake up from its sleep and ignorance. We keep Imam Hussein ('a) in our hearts and we will be ready for martyrdom whenever it takes.
Al-Mustafaa-AL-Amiin (saww) "the curse of Allaah is upon the chrisians and jews because they took the graves of their prophets (as) as places of worship"
may Allaah level to the ground the graves of all including he prophet(saww).inshaallaah, it too will be leveled to the ground once the people are ready!
Al-Mustafaa-AL-Amiin (saww) "the curse of Allaah is upon the chrisians and jews because they took the graves of their prophets (as) as places of worship"
may Allaah level to the ground the graves of all including he prophet(saww).inshaallaah, it too will be leveled to the ground once the people are ready!
brother. I have tried to make it clear to you that asking anyone or anything else besides Allah for blessings and forgiveness is an act of shirk which is the greatest sin in the sight of Allah. Well, now it is up to you to decide, you have a choice to either repent and ask Allah for forgiveness and guidance, or keep on seeking help from the dead people. One thing when someone does it out of ignorance, another thing is when you knowingly commit shirk. Be careful, brother because now you know!
"And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad], over any of them who has died - ever - or stand at his grave. Indeed, they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient."
It's talking about "the funeral prayer" NOT the 5 times salah. This ayat means we are not allowed to give funeral prayer to a fasiqun. THis person is misleading his audience, astaghfirullah
astaghfirullah!!! stop quoting out of reference ayats. the above ayats is clearly telling that not to pray funeral prayers for unbelievers....or not to stand over graves.
nope...he's telling that the wahabis use this ayat to forbid people from paying near the grave...so he's telling that this ayat is for unbelievers...that its forbidden to pray near the grave of unbelievers....or to pray for that unbeliever near his grave...
@zenda40 Well, I don't give a damn about sects within islam, what I care about is what the ayat says. The ayat is about forbidding muslims to make funeral prayer to non muslims and the fasiqun. It is not about whether or not we can pray near the grave, or placing the grave in the masjid. That's why this person is misleading others.
so how the hell this person is mis-leading??? this ayat is used by opponents to deny intercession, while this ayat clearly mentions (as you said...and as the speaker said) something else...
these fucking people are crazy all they do is argue against each other and are ready to fight against each other they cruse each others leaders and each party thinks that he is more correct and more guided than the other i am telling you these people are fanatic and barbaric Thomas Jefferson is better than their whole societies their leaders and their fucking views on religion
@zenda40 there are two type of intercessions.one is the legitimate intercession prophet Muhammed (saw) mentioned and Allah approved in the verses of Quran.At the same time there is a second type intercession that mushriks believe and Allah prohibits this kind of intercession and sends lots of verses about it.for example 10:18 -39:3.any verse including the word intercession criticize this type of intercession .That is why in ayat ul kursi it says none can intercede without the permission of Allah
@zenda40 asking intercession from deaths and making tawassul with the personality of death were the belief system of mushriks.the legal intercession is possible only when prophets resurrect from death.we can not decide who can intercede to us.Quran clearly states that the people who called for intercession can not hear.even they hear,they can not answer our calls.intercession belongs only to Allah
do you even know the meaning of intercession? how van intercession belongs to Allah???
its used for an intermediate...to whom will Allah intercede for us? you mean is there some higher authority than Allah (nauzobillah)???
Believing than Shaheeds are dead is against the essence of Quran (3:169-170).
Similarly quran mentions that Prophet SAWW is REHMAT-UL-LIL-AALAMEEN. now how do you think he's rehmat for u if Prophet SAWW is dead (incase u dont count yourself in alameen?
@zenda40 shaheeds are not dead because they are in heaven.this is what Quran teaches.intercession belongs to Allah means Allah decide who will intercede and Allah will decide who will be saved with intercession.in a hadith prophet Muhammed ask angels why they take his followers and send to the hellfire and angels say you dont know what bidahs they innovate.prophet Muhammed (saw) is unaware of us like prophet Jesus is unaware from christians(as mentioned in the verse 5:117)
so now as you believe in intercession...and only Allah will decide who'll be saved from intercession, we can at least try to get the intercession of Prophet SAWW. Who knows we might be successful (Ameen)
Book 004, Number 1076: 'A'isha reported: Umm Habiba and Umm Salama made a mention before the Messenger of Allah of a church which they had seen in Abyssinia and which had pictures in it. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When a pious person amongst them (among the religious groups) dies they build a place of worship on his grave, and then decorate it with such pictures. They would be the worst of creatures on the Day of judgment in the sight of Allah.
Book 004, Number 1079: 'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said during his illness from which he never recovered: Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians that they took the graves of their prophets as mosques. She ('A'isha) reported: Had it not been so, his (Prophet's) grave would have been in an open place, but it could not be due to the fear that it may not be taken as a mosque.
Book 004, Number 2115: Abu'l-Hayyaj al-Asadi told that 'Ali (b. Abu Talib) said to him: Should I not send you on the same mission as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent me? Do not leave an image without obliterating it, or a high grave without levelling It. This hadith has been reported by Habib with the same chain of transmitters and he said: (Do not leave) a picture without obliterating it.
Book 004, Number 2114: Thumama b. Shafayy reported: When we were with Fadala b. 'Ubaid in the country of the Romans at a place (known as) Rudis, a friend of ours died. Fadala b. 'Ubaid ordered to prepare a grave for him and then it was levelled; and then he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) commanding (us) to level the grave.
Alhamdulilah I am Sunni. I visit graves, make dua 4 dem and also give dem salaam cuz it's Sunna! The only thing I hav 2 disagree wid is avoid makin sujood infront of graves regardless of ur intention it only gives a bad image to the lay Muslim. This is y wen readdin janaza we don't do sujood or ruku, the thing I must say to the wahabis is stop callin Muslims mushriqs and miscoting the Quran all the ayahs which wer 4 da mushriqs of Mecca don't put them on Muslims remember we all r goin 2 face A
Beware, this man is misguiding you. Grave worship of anyone is forbidden and considered idolatry. Also, insulting the Companions of the Prophet (sas) is a great evil! Shaytan has led this man and others like him astay. Muslims do not insult the Companions of the Prophet and Muslims do not call on anyone other than Allah. Allah is the only One who has power to do anything for us.
@zenda40 Nothing happens except by the permission of Allah. Allah wanted it to happen, so it happened. All the good is from Allah and the bad is from you (because of your evil deeds). As you already know.
So let's say Allah wanted this to happen as well...that there would be a group of people among Muslims ~(many sunnis and all the shais) who will approach Allah through the intercession of Holy Prophets and Aulya Allah...the same way Allah approaches HIS subjects...and there would be another group -the modern day Kharjies- by the name of wahabis...who will distort the image of Islam by their violent ways, and extremist character...
@zenda40 Allah the Almighty Lord is in control of EVERYTHING. So, yes, Allah allows terrorists, grave worship which is shirk, unjust killing, all of these things. All of this is from Allah. WHY? Because this life is a TEST. To see: Who will obey the Prophets and Messengers He has sent? Who will obey the Scriptures He sent? Who will believe in Him and have the best manners and character, worshipping Allah and Allah ALONE calling on no other? That is who will enter the Paradise. This test is hard!
isnt it hypocrisy that when innocent women and children are killed in mosuqes and shrines (from the non-wahabi side), you said that they got killed because of their evil deeds...on the contrary when Americas kill Talibans and wahabis. it suddenly becomes TEST...:)
@zenda40Hypocrisy is when someone says they believe in Allah when they realy don't, they show belief outwardly and hide disbelief inside. They enjoin evil and forbid good. Everything happens for a reason. If Allah wants to take a life He will do it. Allah has destroyed whole towns and cities (INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN) because of their disobedience. Every situation is different. Sometime people get killed for other reasons & go to paradise and some get killed and go to hell. Allah knows best.
when Allah knows best (which HE does), so why to accuse others of idolatry? and why to make assumptions that they seek help from 'people other than Allah'...only HE knows the intentions...only HE knows best!
and by the will of Allah, these people will be eliminated by the hands of the Great Satan himself (USA)...and even if thats BAD, that's because of their evil deeds...where their Un-Islamic and violent deeds were bringing a bad name to not just Islam but humanity itself...
@zenda40 To end your confusion, you must seek knoweldge. Try Islamqa online. You will find the real Muslims worshipping none but Allah, living in peace, clean, moral lives, not hurting others, defending the weak, doing justice, calling to Tawheed, and staying away from evil and sins. Killing is a great evil in Islam as you know. Only the Judge is allowed to sentence people to death and Jihad in an army under a Ruler to repel evil is the only other accepted killing. Other than that no killing.
and to END your confusion...dont read anything...dont seek any knowledge as well, as it will only end up making you more rigid in your beliefs and more uncompromising about other beliefs...
all your supposedly standards of real Muslim are hypocritical: by falsely accusing a person of abusing companions, you just committed evil sinful act...by falsely assuming that certain people seek help from other than Allah, and then meddling in their affair...contd
and then criticizing them and meddling in their affair, you have proved that you cant live in peace as well...needless to say that you hurted many people with your way...and didnt lead a moralistic life...so can I dare to say that you are a bad muslim, and a bad human being...
@zenda40 The real Muslims read and recite Quran, understand the Quran the way the Prophet (sas) taught it and the way the Sahaba understood it. This can be found in authentic hadith Bukhari and Muslim and in Tafsir Ibn Kathir. Also, the real Muslims call on Allah and Allah Alone. NOONE ELSE AND NOTHING ELSE can help human beings except Allah, our Creator. La illaha illa Huwa!
what you perceive as grave worshiping, is actually INTERCESSION...no one prays to MUHAMMAD SAWW or his progeny...we ask THESE holy people to make pray for us...or we implore ALLAH to grant our wishes in the SADQA of these people...as Naqshwani said dont form your opinion without knowing the INTENTIONS...
when Allah who is all POWERFUL, choose to reach out to us through Prophets Imam Aulyah...so why cant we use this channel?
it would be wrong if we assume that there is anyone else who grants our wishes...or if we think that ANYONE ELSE has the power to help us...or if we say that anyone else SHARE the powers of ALLAH as well.
and which Companion has he Insulted??? Insulting and abusing is Haram...peopel do it on their own, it has got nothing to do with Shias
Narrateded 'Aisha & 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas: When the disease of Allah's Apostle got aggravated, he covered his face with a Khamisa, but when he became short of breath, he would remove it from his face and say, "It is like that! May Allah curse the Jews Christians because they took the graves of their prophets as... places of worship." By that he warned his follower of imitating them, by doing that which they did.
Nice try brother. Now stop shaving, renew your iman and submit yourself only to Allah. stop worshiping graves. Dead people can not hear you. Only Allah can. May Allah guide u and all of us. Ameen.
@zenda40 salam brother. I do not follow anyone or anything, but the book of Allah and the sunnah of his messenger. Rasul(s) himself ordered us to grow our beards and trim mustaches so why r u bringing up Bin Laden here? So, the straight path is to worship Allah only and to follow the messenger(pbuh). The messenger(pbuh) never asked for help from a dead person, rather only from Allah. So, why do I need to run to a grave when Allah is near and he can hear everything?
i m bringing bin laden here because you judge the purity of one's iman from the length of beard or presence of mustache...
its your lack of knowledge that you think they are asking from dead person...Prophet was rehmat ullil aalameen, so how do you think he's rehmat for us??? similarly it is clearly mentioned in quran than Shaheeds are NOT DEAD.
there are countless references in quran which tells us about intercession like the opening verse of Ayat-ul-Kursi
@zenda40 brother, unfortunately, you still haven't pondered upon the meaning of the " La ilaha illallah, muhammadar rasulullah. It is more than just words, it must be the way of life. You ask only Allah for help and you accept that the task of the prophet(s) was only to convey message and to warn people. The prophet is Rahmatulill-alamin because Allah out of his mercy sent us our beloved prophet(s) and the Quran. Let's stop worshiping dead people, angels or prophets, and worship only Allah!!!
actually on your point i pondered over the meaning and realized that why would believing in Prophet saww prophet hood is so important, that we have included it in kalma?
as you said its more than just words. Allah SWT after declaring HIMSELF as the ONLY ONE, choose to get known through His beloved Prophet SAWW. I mean He is all Capable, aint He? Why still He choose to being identified through Prophet SAWW. He could have passed the msg directly to us, but He choose a certain way.
Now when Alalh being all-Powerful & all-Capable choose to reach through Prophet SAWW, why cant we choose the same way? Why cant we urged Prophet to Pray for us (intercession).
Similarly the Aulya Allah who were choosen by Alah to spread His msg...why cant we request them to forward our prayers to Allah SWT. Since they are nearer to Allah (spirtually) they can fwd our msg more effectively.
And mind it we are only asking them to intercede on our behalf...contd
we are praying to Allah SWT only and expect ONLY HIM to answer our prayers. they (prophets and aulya-allah)are mere channels.
Dey may not b physically present between us but since v continue to benefit from their spirtual presence (as v still learn & get our religion from them)...thus Allah is atill using their services,
so similarly we can also use their spiritual presence. Da same way Prophet is rehmatullilaalameen...and not just rehmat for people who were present in his lifetime
@zenda40 Astaghfirullah, brother, That is exactly what the mushrikeen used to say to the prophet(s) when he was inviting them to worship Allah alone. They claimed same thing that they are not worshipping their idols and that they are just using them as " mere channels" to get closer to Allah. My brother lets not be like mushrikeen and the lost chrisitians. let's be muslims. and worship Allah alone. May ALlah guide us Ameen.
@zenda40 brother. I have tried to make it clear to you that asking anyone or anything else besides Allah for blessings and forgiveness is an act of shirk which is the greatest sin in the sight of Allah. Well, now it is up to you to decide, you have a choice to either repent and ask Allah for forgiveness and guidance, or keep on seeking help from the dead people. One thing when someone does it out of ignorance, another thing is when you knowingly commit shirk. May Allah guide u.
and i have told you so many times that I indeed ask ALLAH and ALLAH only...why do you insist upon knowing my intention better than me???
its clearly mentioned in quran (3: 169-170) that shaheeds are not dead. now you keep calling them as dead Naozobillah. I suggest you to sincerely repent...anyone doubting the authenticity of Quran and words of Allah SWT is accomplishing a very sinful act.
It is not Shirk to pray in front of a grave, as long as you are praying only to Allah. However if you are praying to the occupier of the grave for intercession or something else then this is absolutely shirk. The only being you should ever pray to is the one and only creator of the universe; Allah.
islamahmadiyyat16 2 days ago
and understand one thing..... quraan alone is the revelation of ALLAH swt.... where as hadit is a record like history...... i accept all the hadith r not true.... but authentic hadit which were recorded with full sciencirety and care... r sahi bukhari... and sahi muslim.... u follow the sunnah of prophet..... through them and whome do u follou.. and if u follow prophet how?.. if u say through quraan.... then i bet u that there no much detail in quraan abt PROPHET..
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
@ali8210...... tell me frankly that u dont call yaali madad.... dont u hit ur self... not only salaat and haj will make u a muslim.... u must also follow.... MUHAMMAD saw ..... in turn u do biddath..... invations fabrications.... hitting onself for hassan hussain.. is not a part of islam.... v atleast follow the hadit which r authentic.. with deep research.... u do not kno how prophet lived if u do not have hadees...quraan did not say any thing about howprophet lived.. v get it from hadees
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
TOWARDS HASSAN<HUSSAIN<AND ALI....MAY ALLAH BE PLEASED ON THEM...
4.THEY MAKE PICTURES OF ALI(RA)..
EVERY THING THEY DO IS AGAINST ISLAM...... CAN WE CALL THEM MUSLIMS.....?
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
@rajlunislaam is hajj against islam ? is salat against islam ? pls dont say things that are not true...
ali8210 1 month ago
@rajlunislaam
we dont warship the picture
and you said everything we do is against islam, so your saying that allah is wrong and the prophet is wrong and the imams are wrong because we follow them
can you tell me what was wrong in the video you watched??? ^^^^
and advice for you first you need to read and listing to what we say and believe then you can Accuse us of and this is a sine in islam if you read quran
7ssain8 1 month ago
1.SHIAS CALL QURAAN AS INCOMPLETE.......
2.THEY DENY SAHI AL BUKHARI AND SAHI MUSLIM....TWO AUTHENTIC HADEESES..
3.THEY FOLLOW ALI(RA) MORE THAN MOHAMMED (saw).....
4.THEY SLAP THEIR FACES.. HURT THEMSELVES...TO SHOW THEIR SORROW TOWARS
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
@rajlunislaam
salam
1. when we say quran is incompleted is becaouse quran is not any book you can undersstand and it has a lot of hiddin knowledge that only the prophet and ahil al bait know it
2. sahi al bukhari and Muslim they both were writing by humans and its full of mistakes and i can prove it. why do you not only follow the quran?
3. hadeth by the prophet ( i am the city if knowledge and ali is the door if you want to enter the city you need to go through the door first)
7ssain8 1 month ago
IS THIS MAN SHIA........?
rajlunislaam 1 month ago
salauddin was right jerusalem can not be liberated until the shia are defeated
jaggafeen 2 months ago
idiot grave worshipper giving excuses for kufr
jaggafeen 2 months ago
@jaggafeen I guess you didn't listen to the whole video...
MSH786 2 months ago
YAYA ALI (AS) !! YA ALI (AS) !!
Shi3aOfAli 3 months ago
May Allah bless Ammar Nakshawani!!!
97alir 3 months ago
subhanallah this man knows wat hes talking bout, let the ignorant comment!!, when u got the quran to back u up like this, then y do the ignorant to try refute wat hes saying? if theyr trying to refute this man, it means theyr refuting the very quran they love n read....
grimnar1999 4 months ago
MashaAllah for this.
UmmLeyla06 5 months ago 2
Asalamu alaikum, everyone please watch the videos "12 Rightly Guided Caliphs" & after that "Why I became Shia" you can search them in YouTube or watch them on my Channel.
313Mohsin313 6 months ago
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listen to him just same like you follow any fatwa from bishop or pope loool
AbuQatadah96 6 months ago
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AbuQatadah96 6 months ago
stupid man with clean shaved beard giving lecturer about his religion "shia laknatullah" . who teach their followers to insult and hate the sahaba .
AbuQatadah96 6 months ago
@AbuQatadah96 Hahaha he has proven you wrong so you just insult him. Typical wahhabbi attitude. In my lifetime I have never seen a Shia' curse the Sahaba (only Muawiyah and Yazid). I think no Shia should ever curse the Sahaba, this is very wrong. I typed in to youtube 'Shia cursing Sahaba' i only saw one video of some unkown Shia cursing the sahaba in his dua. But then the leader of Hezbollah gave an excellent response to this. Check it out. We dont curse the Sahaba man.
iranianbasiji 6 months ago
@iranianbasiji no ,i just need to type here on youtube "shia insult sahaba" and you will see many video ;) ,and btw not hizbullah exactly ,but hizbul syaitan
AbuQatadah96 3 months ago
@AbuQatadah96 Asalaamo alaykum brother, i think u hv been mistaken! he is not a stupid man, how can u call some teaching about Islam a stupid man! yes he doesnt have a beard tht doesnt mean his teachin is wrong, nor does it affect anything he is sayin! NOR, is he insultig or makin his followers hate the sahaba!
May Allah guide u to the right path:)
97alir 3 months ago
@97alir i don't care that ,but he is shia .for your dua ,Ameen and may Allah guide this shia misguided scholar to the right path
AbuQatadah96 3 months ago
@AbuQatadah96 May Allah guide u 2 the right path! We'll all wait 4 the arrival of imam mahdi (a.s) and we'll all c who is right! theres no point in bickering whos right or wrong!
97alir 3 months ago
I welcome well-mannered discussion, so the reader is very welcome to send me a message (directly).
Tawheed is the foundation of our religion, without which there is NO Islam and NO Iman (faith).
In order to understand Shirk (polytheism/ associating partners with Allaah), we must understand the Shirk of the Pagans of old, whom the Islamic revelation speaks of.
The Mushrikeen of old exaggerated the status of dead pious people to a level of intermediary and intercessor - This is a great sin.
PGMv3 8 months ago
@PGMv3 don't get what you have against shia's?
iSeekThe1Truth 7 months ago
@PGMv3 its in your own books /watch?v=KEy1wIHpjXg&feature=channel_video_title
Aloosh12 6 months ago
@PGMv3 many companion's graves are burried in mosques like khaled ibn al waleed in syra. all arab leaders when they die many of them are burried in mosques does that mean u worship them u ignorant?
Aloosh12 6 months ago
I have explained the following in previous posts
- How the act of supplication/dua to others besides Allaah is an act of Shirk.
- How supplicating to the pious or anyone else to seek intercession is Shirk.
- How the setting up of intermediaries between the creation and Allaah is what the Mushrikeen of old used to do
- Dua is an act of worship and is thus the SOLE RIGHT OF ALLAAH
- Many Sufis, many Shias and the Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) of old are similar in their worship of created beings
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Shirk (polytheism/ associating partners with Allaah) of the Pagans of old:
Qur'aan - And they worship besides Allâh things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allâh." Say: "Do you inform Allâh of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth?" Glorified and Exalted be He above all that which they associate as partners with Him! (Yunus 10:18).
SO ALLAAH NAMED THIS ACTION AS SHIRK (associating partners with Allaah/ polytheism).
PGMv3 8 months ago
The grave-worshippers from among the Sufis & Shias (not all Sufis & Shias by the way), say that we have not taken the Prophet, Awliya, Ahlul Bayt etc as partners with Allaah, rather we have only taken them as intermediaries & intercessors who bring us closer to Allaah.
*** HOWEVER - THIS IS THE SAME SHIRK, THE SAME REASONING AND THE SAME ACT AS THE MUSHRIKEEN OF OLD WHO FOUGHT AGAINST THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD ***
Shirk is Shirk, no matter whom you invoke/ worship besides Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Let us now see the nature of the Shirk of the Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) at the time of the Prophet
Qur'aan - Surely, the religion (i.e. the worship and the obedience) is for Allâh only. And those who take Auliyâ (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say): "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allâh." Verily, Allâh will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Truly, Allâh guides not him who is a liar, and a disbeliever. (Az-Zumar 39:3)
PGMv3 8 months ago
Muslims worship Allaah, alone, without associating any partners with Allaah. This includes the act of supplication/ dua/ invocation. The Prophet Muhammad told us that dua is worship.
That means when a Muslim performs the act of DUA - Then he calls upon Allaah, alone and NOT to any created being.
In Islam, anyone can invoke Allaah DIRECTLY, indeed Allaah hears all the supplications of all the people in their various languages. Allaah is merciful to His creation and can answer anybody.
PGMv3 8 months ago
In the act of dua (supplication. invocation), which is an act of worship, there is no difference between what Sufis, Shias and the Pagans of old do
All 3 groups have the same Pagan type of worship
All 3 groups supplicate to the pious and to others in order to seek intercession
All 3 groups take created beings as intermediaries between themselves and Allaah
All 3 groups invoke (in dua) created beings in order to get closer to Allaah
What was Shirk for the Pagans is also Shirk for Sufis & Shias
PGMv3 8 months ago
Sufis, Shias & the Mushrikeen of old all generally affirm that Allaah provides, sustains, manages the affairs & that the creation is subservient to Allaah - But Tawheed (monotheism) does NOT stop here.
Sufis, Shias & Mushrikeen of old all generally believe that those whom they call upon for intercession have no power by themselves - But Tawheed goes further.
ISLAAM STATES - That in addition to affirming Lordship for Allaah, alone, that we should also worship Him, only.
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Mushrikeen whom the Islamic texts speak of, did NOT believe their idols had any power by themselves. They only called upon them in their duas to intercede with Allaah.
But - ALLAAH and HIS MESSENGER DECLARED THE PAGANS OF OLD TO BE UPON SHIRK (polytheism/ associating partners with Allaah).
Why? Because the Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) of old gave a share of their worship (ie. dua/ supplication) to others besides Allaah, so the Mushrikeen of old associated partners with Allaah in worship.
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Mushrikeen of old used to supplicate/dua to angels, to the pious dead, to idols in order to get closer to Allaah
The Mushrikeen of old believed that the Angels, the pious dead, idols etc had a high status with Allaah, so the Mushrikeen used to supplicate/ invoke these created beings in the hope that these created beings would intercede for them
The Mushrikeen took these beings as intermediaries between themselves and Allaah
BUT ALLAAH DECLARED THE PAGANS TO BE UPON SHIRK ON ACCOUNT OF THIS
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Pagans at the time of the Prophet used to believe that Allaah controls the affairs, that Allaah provides, sustains, gives life and that the creation is subservient to Allaah.
BUT - This was not enough to enter the Pagans of old into the Tawheed (monotheism) which the Prophet was calling them to.
Why? Because despite affirming the aforementioned aspects of Lordship for Allaah, the Pagans worshipped others besides Allaah.
So, the Pagans of old were declared to be upon Shirk (polytheism).
PGMv3 8 months ago
Pagans at the time of the Prophet Muhammad and before were declared to be upon Shirk (polytheism)
Why? The Mushrikeen (polytheists/pagans) of olden times used to supplicate/ dua to Angels, to dead pious people, to idols and more.
Why did the Mushrikeen of old do this? In order to seek the intercession of these created beings with Allaah
Why did they seek intercession from these beings? Because the Mushrikeen believed that those they supplicated to were closer to Allaah and had status with Allaah
PGMv3 8 months ago
Dua is an act of worship and is VERY DIFFERENT from asking someone who is ALIVE & PRESENT.
For example asking a friend for help you lift something or asking a doctor (NOT A DEAD DOCTOR) for a cure - THIS IS ALLOWED IN ISLAM.
BUT - Asking when performing a supplication (invocation, dua) - Then this is an act of worship which can only be directed to Allaah.
In Islam all acts of worship (including DUA) can only be directed to Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
HADEETH - The Prophet Muhammad said: "If you ask, ask of Allaah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allaah." [Tirmidthee, good and authentic]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Dua is worship". [SAHEEH (authentic) - Reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunans].
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Whosoever dies whilst making du’aa (invocation, supplication) to others besides Allaah, will enter the HellFire." [Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 4297)]
PGMv3 8 months ago
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Allaah cursed the Jews and the Christians for taking the graves of their prophets as Masjids." -- Refer to the English Translation of Saheeh Bukhari, Book of Prayer, volume 1, Book 8, Hadeeth no: 427 & 428.
PGMv3 8 months ago
From Jaabir bin Abdullaah who said that the Messenger of Allaah prohibited plastering of the graves and sitting upon it and building upon it.
This narration is in Kitaab ul-Janaaiz 2/667 in Muslim.
PGMv3 8 months ago
From Abu Al-Hayaaj Al-Asadiy who said Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me "I am dispatching you upon what the Messenger dispatched me upon, that, "you do not leave statues except you deface it nor a grave raised except you level it"
This narration is in Kitaab ul-Janaaiz 2/666 in Muslim.
PGMv3 8 months ago
People about this SHIRK issue if you want to hear the real side of the shia's view towards this then just watch this video: It starts at 2:40
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and continues:
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Just paste these behind:
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iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
To end(inshallah) Shia's DON'T worship anyone other than the 1 god!!!!!!!!
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
Dude you shits are a sick people
ghs224 8 months ago
Omg, I don't understand why there are 65 dislikes and people still arguing. What on earth are you arguing about? You've just been proven wrong. Can't you handle the truth or something?
ZainW4 8 months ago
You have a question on a verse. U go to a sheik to get an explanation. You could ask God to "inspire the answer in your heart" so u have it- And God is PERFECTLY CAPABLE of doing that. But you go through a middleman when you could just right to God? U just asked help from someone who isn't God, making u a Mushrik?
Quran 3:169 says think of the Shaheed as alive, not dead . Saying "Ali, please help me" is not asking a dead person for help, it's asking a LIVING person for help.
mus5599 8 months ago 2
In sura 12:4, a young Prophet Yusef tells his father that the planets or stars were bowing down to him. So they were worshiping him? No. Or when the angels bowed to Adam, where they worshiping him?
Quran 18:21-- God seems to ENDORSE putting a MASJID over graves. The graves of 18:21 weren't being worshiped. Just like graves of our imams. Everything you say is refuted by the speaker. Peace.
mus5599 8 months ago 2
To do the shirk him self he
satisfying .....
hasme1975 8 months ago
Muslims love the Prophets of Allah. Muslims loves the pious believers such as Ali and Al-Husain and all others.
BUT - Love means to follow them. All the pious servants of Allah supplicated/ dua/ worshipped Allah, alone. So we should do the same.
HOWEVER - Many Shias have exaggerated the status of the pious by giving them 'special powers' which they did not have.
Shias in fact worship their Imams by supplicating/ dua to them, seeking help and intercession - This is an example of Shirk.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Among the types of Shirk is Shirk related to worship. This occurs when a person directs an act of worship to others besides Allah. A person who does this is a Mushrik (polytheist/ pagan/ one who associates partners with Allah).
Shirk is the worst sin in Islam. Shirk negates and expels from Islam.
Many Shias worship their Imams alongside Allah, so Shias give a share of their worship to others besides Allah. By doing this they have associated partners with Allah in worship.
PGMv3 8 months ago
@PGMv3 Shia's never worship imam's beside god, where did you get this from? Get your facts straight before accuse a sect of something they never even done! Lies!
iSeekThe1Truth 8 months ago
Dua / supplication is clearly an act of worship, so this act of worship (just like all acts of worship) can only be directed to Allah - The sole Lord, Creator and Provider of all that exists.
Created beings or objects do NOT deserve ANY act of worship.
Even if the created beings were great pious men, such as the Prophets or others like Ali or Al-Husain - This is NOT a factor, because ONLY THE CREATOR DESERVES TO BE WORSHIPPED.
PGMv3 8 months ago
HADEETH - The Prophet Muhammad said: "If you ask, ask of Allah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allah." [Tirmidthee, good and authentic]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Dua is worship". [SAHEEH (authentic) - Reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunans).
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "Whosoever dies whilst making du'aa (invocation, supplication) to others besides Allah, will enter the HellFire." [Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 4297)]
So in Islam, we ONLY supplicate to Allah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Shias supplicate/ dua to their Imams eg: "O Husain intercede for me" or "O Ali help me" - These two examples show that Shias direct an act of worship (in this case dua/ supplication) to Ali and Al-Husain.
BUT IN ISLAM - There is no created being or object that deserves to be worshipped. That includes the fact that there is no created being or object that deserves to be prayed to / dua/ supplicated to.
IN ISLAM - Only The Creator (Who is Allah) deserves ALL our acts of worship.
PGMv3 8 months ago
There is NO (true) ilah except Allah, which means there is NO god/deity/object of worship except Allah
When a Muslim says this, then he can only direct ALL his acts of worship to Allah. That includes the act of worship called - dua (supplication/invocation)
If a person directs ANY act of worship to others besides Allah,then this person has committed Shirk (associated partners with Allah)
Many (not all) Shias supplicate to others besides Allah,which means they worship others besides Allah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
This point has been explained in numerous posts on this video's pages.
However, to reiterate if a person invokes / calls upon others besides Allah when performing DUA / supplication - Then this person has worshipped other than Allah.
Why and how has this person worshipped other than Allah?
Answer - Because DUA / supplication is an act of worship.
In Islam all acts of worship can only be directed to Allah, alone, Who is the sole Lord, Creator and Provider of all that exists.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Quran 3:169 says don't think of those who died in God's cause as dead, they live.
You are saying think of them as dead. Am I going to listen to you or the Quran?!
mus5599 8 months ago
Quran 3:169 says think of them as alive, not dead. You say think of them as dead and gone. I'll take the Quran.
food for thought-
Quran has an example of ppl asking their prophet for things instead of God as an intermediary - like in 2:246, they ask a Prophet for something instead of directly asking God. Then the prophet says God appointed Talut as King over you. They used a middleman. to reach God, and God used a middleman to get back to his servants.
mus5599 8 months ago
Muslims love the Prophet Muhammad, his family and companions. Muslims also love all Prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus.
However, our love should be as Allaah wishes is to be.
So love of the righteous Muslims means that we follow them.
Love does NOT mean we can supplicate/ dua to them. Love does NOT mean we can build shrines above their graves. Love does NOT mean exaggerating the status of the righteous
The righteous all supplicated/ dua/ worshipped Allaah, ALONE - Let us follow them
PGMv3 8 months ago
Saying, understanding and adhering to LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH is a good thing, as this statement is the foundation of Islaam and without it there is no Islaam and no faith
This statement means that None has the right to be worshipped except Allaah, which includes the fact that none can be supplicated/ dua/ invoked except Allaah
Since many Shias invoke/dua others besides Allaah, thus worshipping others besides Allaah, this means Shias are NOT Muslims because they do NOT adhere to Islaam's foundation
PGMv3 8 months ago
The word ILAAH as used in the Qur'aan includes whatever is worshipped & called upon in dua/ supplication
So for example, Shias supplicate to their Imams, which means Shias have taken their Imams as ILAAHs besides Allaah - This means that despite Shias saying LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH, they do NOT actually practise it.
The Shia practice of supplicating/dua to their Imams means they do NOT really adhere to LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH
That means that Shias do NOT even adhere to the very foundation of Islaam.
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Mushrikeen (polytheists/ pagans) of olden times used to take the pious dead, angels and idols as ILAAHs (gods/ deities/ objects of worship).
How did they do this? The Mushrikeen used to supplicate/ dua to their ILAAHs in order to seek their intercession.
Their taking of ILAAHs besides Allaah made them Mushrikeen (polytheists/ those who associate partners with Allaah in worship).
In Islaam, there is only 1 True ILAAH - That is Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH has 2 parts: 1/ a negation and 2/ an affirmation.
Part 1 - negation - LAA ILAAHA - Means there is no true ILAAH. Meaning there is no true god/ deity/ object of worship.
Part 2/ affirmation - ILLALLAAH - means 'except Allaah'.
Part 1/ This part negates any worship to any created being or object.
Part 2/ This affirms Allaah as the SOLE OBJECT OF WORSHIP.
So LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH means:
None has the right to be worshipped except Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
An ILAAH is that which is worshipped. Muslims worship the only true ILAAH - That is Allaah.
Christians worship Jesus, so they have taken Jesus as an ILAAH (god/ deity/ object of worship) besides Allaah - That is Shirk.
Sufis worship the Awliya, so they have taken the Awliya as ILAAHs (gods/ deities) besides Allaah - That is Shirk.
Shias worship their Imams, so they have taken their Imams as ILAAHs (gods/ objects of worship) besides Allaah - That is Shirk,.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Now Muslims say LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH as the first part of the declaration of faith.
Many people say this but do not understand its meaning. The person in this video also says this, but I am not sure if he undestands either.
LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH translates as:
There is no ilaah except Allaah.
What is an ilaah? An ilaah translates as god/ deity/ object of worship.
LAA ILAAHA ILLALLAAH means there is no true ilaah except Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
In our 5 daily prayers we only seek assistance from Allaah.
So in Surah Al-Fatihah which all Muslims should recite in every raka (unit) of prayer we say in the 6th verse:
Ihdinas-siraatal mustaqeem
Which in English means:
Guide us to the straight way.
Here we are NOT asking the Prophets, the Angels, the Awliya, Ahlul Bayt etc. We are ONLY ASKING ALLAAH.
PGMv3 8 months ago
In the 5 daily prayers we say:
ALLAAHUMMA SALLI ALAA MUHAMMAD...
which in English means:
O Allaah! Extol and honour Muhammad...
We also say:
ALLAAHUMMA BAARIK ALAA MUHAMMAD...
which in English means:
O Allaah! Send continual blessings upon Muhammad...
So, you can see that we ONLY ASK ALLAAH.
NOWHERE in the 5 daily prayers do we ask the Prophet for anything.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Sending peace upon the Prophet is a good thing.
We do this in our prayers and at other times too. But this is one thing.
To then say that you can make dua/supplication TO THE PROPHET, this is something different, which you CANNOT do because that is Shirk.
Why? Because when you ask for something in DUA/SUPPLICATION you can only ask Allaah.
Making dua TO Allaah is different from SENDING salaam to the Prophet.
In our 5 daily prayers, we DO NOT ask the Prophet for anything.
PGMv3 8 months ago
If you look at Shia worship at their shrines (ie. Najaf, Karbala etc), you will see the way Shias approach their Imams and ask from them is itself an act of worship.
It is a Shia act of worship to visit the Imams at shrines and then to supplicate/ dua to them in order to seek help and intercession.
The above description is the type of devotion which is the SOLE RIGHT OF ALLAAH.
PGMv3 8 months ago
One reason many of the Shia are Mushrikeen, is because they give a share of their worship to others besides Allaah. As we should know, DUA/ supplication is an act of worship (quite different from asking someone who is ALIVE & PRESENT).
Now because Shias direct their supplications/ invocations to their Imams (to seek help & intercession), they are thus associating partners with Allaah in WORSHIP by giving a share of their worship to others besides Allaah - That is Shirk.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Now compare the seeking of intercession of the Mushrikeen of old with the seeking of intercession of the Shias.
Today, Shias worship their Imams by supplicating/ dua to them to seek their help and intercession.
Shias do this because they believe their Imams are closer to Allaah.
The Mushrikeen of old also used to invoke their Awliya, angels, idols to seek their intercession with Allaah.
The Mushrikeen of old did this because they believed the angels, awliya, idols were closer to Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Mushrikeen (polytheists/ pagans) of olden times (whom the Islaamic texts speak of), used to worship dead pious people, angels and idols ALONGSIDE worshipping Allaah.
In times of ease, the Mushrikeen would worship angels, dead pious people, idols.
In times of hardship they used to worship Allaah, alone.
How did they worship others besides Allaah?
Answer - They used to supplicate/ dua to angels, the pious dead, idols to seek their intercession with Allaah - BUT ISLAAM CLASSED THIS AS SHIRK.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Shirk is to associate partners with Allaah. 2 examples of Shirk (polytheism) are:
1/ If a person believes there is another creator and lord besides Allaah - This person has committed SHIRK in LORDSHIP - Why? Because Allaah is the only Lord of all that exists and none can share in His Lordship.
2/ If a person worships others alongside Allaah - This person has committed SHIRK in WORSHIP - Why? It is NOT allowed to give a share of one's worship to others besides Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
Building upon graves and raising graves high is FORBIDDEN in Islaam.
Building shrines above graves leads to exaggeration of the dead.
At these shrines, Shias supplicate/ dua to the dead, asking them for help and intercession - This is Shirk because:
In Islaam all worship (including supplication/ prayer/ dua/ invoking) can only be to Allaah. So if a person directs any act of worship to other than Allaah, then this person has committed Shirk by giving a share of his worship to other than Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
HADEETH - The Prophet of Allah has indeed said:
"Allaah cursed the Jews and the Christians for taking the graves of their Prophets as Masjids."
Refer to the English Translation of Saheeh Bukhari, Book of Prayer, volume 1, Book 8, Hadeeth no: 427 & 428.
PGMv3 8 months ago
From Jaabir bin Abdullaah who said that the Messenger of Allaah prohibited plastering of the graves and sitting upon it and building upon it.
This narration is in Kitaab ul-Janaaiz 2/667 in Muslim.
PGMv3 8 months ago
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From Abu Al-Hayaaj Al-Asadiy who said Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me "I am dispatching you upon what the Messenger dispatched me upon, that, "you do not leave statues except you deface it nor a grave raised except you level it"
This narration is in Kitaab ul-Janaaiz 2/666 in Muslim.
PGMv3 8 months ago
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PGMv3 8 months ago
QUR'AAN - And the mosques are for Allâh (Alone), so invoke not anyone along with Allâh. (Al-Jinn 72:18)
Muslims are only allowed to invoke Allaah in supplication/ dua.
For example, a Muslim raises his hands and invokes/ calls upon Allaah, alone - "O Allaah heklp me, guide me and protect me".
But, there are many Shias who direct their supplications to others besides Allaah, such. An example of a Shia dua: "O Alee help me" - Islaam does NOT allow this.
PGMv3 8 months ago
QUR'AAN - And your Lord said: "Invoke Me, [i.e. believe in My Oneness
(Islâmic Monotheism)] (and ask Me for anything) I will respond to your (invocation). Verily! Those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me, and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islâmic Monotheism)] they will surely enter Hell in humiliation!" (Ghafir 40:60)
In Islaam, we CANNOT invoke/ supplicate/ dua anyone EXCEPT Allaah.
Dua is an act of worship and in Islaam ALL acts of worship can only be directed to Allaah.
PGMv3 8 months ago
HADEETH - The Prophet said: "If you ask, ask of Allaah, and if you seek help, then seek the help of Allaah." [Tirmidthee, good and authentic]
HADEETH - The Prophet said: “Dua is worship”. [SAHEEH (authentic) - Reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunans].
HADEETH - The Prophet said: “Whosoever dies whilst making du'aa (invocation, supplication) to others besides Allaah, will enter the HellFire.” [Related by al-Bukhaaree (no. 4297), from Ibn Mas'ood]
PGMv3 8 months ago
Indeed, mosques on top of graves is forbidden in Islaam. In regards
to the Prophet's (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) grave and his two noble companions (radhi-yAllaahu 'anhumaa), then they were buried in the house of the Prophet and NOT the masjid.
But later on, the masjid was expanded and eventually included the graves. This was an error. I'm sure you'll agree, that this expansion cannot be used as a proof for building mosques above graves as The Prophet forbade that.
PGMv3 8 months ago
One of the Muslim rulers of the Umayyad period, Alwaleed bin Abdul-Malik bin Marwaan (he became the Muslim ruler in the year 86 A.H. till 96 A.H), he decided to expand the Prophet's Masjid, he included the house of the Prophet as part of the Masjid, due to his intended extension. Alwaleed bin Abdul-Malik bin Marwaan committed an error when he did this.
PGMv3 8 months ago
What was obligatory upon him (Alwaleed) was not to include the house of the Prophet as part of the Masjid so that the ignorant people would not be
able to use this as evidence, and others that may advance themselves with this argument and present similar doubts. Without a doubt the people of knowledge rejected and refuted Alwaleed bin Abdul-Malik bin Marwaan with regards to this action of his.
PGMv3 8 months ago
The Wahabis / Salafis ! Destroy The Graves Of Awliya Allah
06alamm 9 months ago
reply to irooni100 its sense less to say a muslim should have his beard foot long length, and long dress, beard is sign of muslim and sunnah of messanger pbuh,the hell fire is prepared for you not for me,eat, drink and enjoy your self hell fire is near you allah and his angels be curse on you
thuanmohamed 9 months ago
my Brother before giving lecture about islam where is your beard, your not a suitable person first of all,grave of aboobucker and others were situated beside madina mosque,at the time of renovation they cannot move it thats why the let it as its know the reason
thuanmohamed 10 months ago
@thuanmohamed
Is ISLAM To YOU ,means having a FOOT LONG BEARD ,& A long Dress ?
Is that all you have to have to be a true Muslims ?
in that Case THE HELL WITH YOU ISLAM.
irooni100 9 months ago
@thuanmohamed They go and bomb the other grave sights but have no problem with this one? Interesting.
The beard issue is your knock on this guy. You can't refute anything he says. I'll accept the beard issue as legit, but when it comes to his words, you are silent. There's a fat guy who chose Shia Islam and explains why in 3-4 vids, called something like "why I became Shia part 1" he uses Sooni hadith books to prove Shia Islam correct. Refute him. Peace.
mus5599 9 months ago
I would beat sense in that imam. Missleader.
cfcyusuf11 10 months ago
SAHEEH MUSLIM...
Book 004, Number 2115:
"Abu'l-Hayyaj al-Asadi told that 'Ali (b. Abu Talib) said to him: 'Should I not send you on the same mission as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent me'? 'Do not leave an image without obliterating it, or a high grave without levelling It'. This hadith has been reported by Habib with the same chain of transmitters and he said: ('Do not leave) a picture without obliterating it'.
sarni786 10 months ago
one secs, i thought you where suppost to make sure a grave was , how do you say in english, un-baked!!!///???
JACOBI786 10 months ago
@sniperb6 relax!he made some good pionts, dont you think, but just one thing thou, i was told has a child a grave should be unbaked, so i think that means not really built properly???
JACOBI786 10 months ago
I want a CLEAR and FULL info from a SHIA, I'm tired of shias saying that I'm brainwashed and that sunnis are lying to us about their belief.
I'm sick of that, I want a shia to say what he believes in so I can take a break.
iHateMyLifeGr 11 months ago
Btw, what do shias believe in?
all the shias I asked just keep escaping from answering this question.
who are the shia? what do they believe in? what do you think of Ali Bin Abi Talib (rAa), Abu Bakr(rAa), Omar(rAa), Aisha(rAa), and Hafsa(rAa)?
and why are they doing these slaughters in Ashoora'a (10th of Muharram), eg: injuring their heads and keeping blood coming all over their bodies and hitting on their heads, plus what they do by beating themselves in their backs by some metal wires.
iHateMyLifeGr 11 months ago
@iHateMyLifeGr Salam brother. Shias believe in Allah (swt), the Prophet (s), Quran and Ahl al-Bayt ('a) as the rightful successors because they are the most knowledgeable, truthful and best leaders and interpreters of the Holy Quran. The sahabas are judged by Allah (swt) as everybody else, they can either go to Paradise / Hell, be true believers or hypocrites depending on their actions.
shianoor 10 months ago
@shianoor Alright you answered the first part, thank you.
Why do you beat yourselves till you bleed and run like crazy people (no offence) all over the streets screaming YA HUSSEIN YA ALI!! ??
and make young children do that with you?
iHateMyLifeGr 10 months ago
@iHateMyLifeGr It's haram to hit yourself till you bleed according to the Leader (Imam Khamenei). Please read about what happened in Karbala, then you will see why we mourn and beat our chests. We will continue till the ummah will wake up from its sleep and ignorance. We keep Imam Hussein ('a) in our hearts and we will be ready for martyrdom whenever it takes.
shianoor 10 months ago
Saudi Arabia has the right to do that.
iHateMyLifeGr 11 months ago
@sniperb6 How is he a fool and need help? He's a lot more educated than you!
MSH786 11 months ago
Al-Mustafaa-AL-Amiin (saww) "the curse of Allaah is upon the chrisians and jews because they took the graves of their prophets (as) as places of worship"
may Allaah level to the ground the graves of all including he prophet(saww).inshaallaah, it too will be leveled to the ground once the people are ready!
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
@abdullahalmahmood where did you get that from please??its true thou, who the hell is running MECCA/MEDINA???
JACOBI786 10 months ago
Al-Mustafaa-AL-Amiin (saww) "the curse of Allaah is upon the chrisians and jews because they took the graves of their prophets (as) as places of worship"
may Allaah level to the ground the graves of all including he prophet(saww).inshaallaah, it too will be leveled to the ground once the people are ready!
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
filthy mushrik murtad.imaamu dhalaala wa huwa al kaafir
may Allaah curse you and make you deaf dumb and blind and paralysed.
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
filthy mushrik murtad.imaamu dhalaala wa huwa al kaafir
abdullahalmahmood 1 year ago
its is so strange that this man is talking about this, he has the Blessed name of Nabi Muhammad (saw) but he does not resemble a muslim?
SuperMadKREW 1 year ago
brother. I have tried to make it clear to you that asking anyone or anything else besides Allah for blessings and forgiveness is an act of shirk which is the greatest sin in the sight of Allah. Well, now it is up to you to decide, you have a choice to either repent and ask Allah for forgiveness and guidance, or keep on seeking help from the dead people. One thing when someone does it out of ignorance, another thing is when you knowingly commit shirk. Be careful, brother because now you know!
vatandust 1 year ago
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Islam's tolerance and peaceful nature is coming out in the form of church bombings in Egypt, Iraq, Nigeria, Malasia and other countries
zigzagzoo12 1 year ago
"And do not pray [the funeral prayer, O Muhammad], over any of them who has died - ever - or stand at his grave. Indeed, they disbelieved in Allah and His Messenger and died while they were defiantly disobedient."
It's talking about "the funeral prayer" NOT the 5 times salah. This ayat means we are not allowed to give funeral prayer to a fasiqun. THis person is misleading his audience, astaghfirullah
indimaya 1 year ago
@indimaya
astaghfirullah!!! stop quoting out of reference ayats. the above ayats is clearly telling that not to pray funeral prayers for unbelievers....or not to stand over graves.
where does it says anything about intercession???
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 It doesn't!!!!! That's the whole point!!!! The speaker is using this ayat to legitimize intercession.
Are you sure you are not confused??? I think you are cuz I am saying exactly what you are saying...
indimaya 1 year ago
@indimaya
nope...he's telling that the wahabis use this ayat to forbid people from paying near the grave...so he's telling that this ayat is for unbelievers...that its forbidden to pray near the grave of unbelievers....or to pray for that unbeliever near his grave...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 Well, I don't give a damn about sects within islam, what I care about is what the ayat says. The ayat is about forbidding muslims to make funeral prayer to non muslims and the fasiqun. It is not about whether or not we can pray near the grave, or placing the grave in the masjid. That's why this person is misleading others.
indimaya 1 year ago
@indimaya
so how the hell this person is mis-leading??? this ayat is used by opponents to deny intercession, while this ayat clearly mentions (as you said...and as the speaker said) something else...
zenda40 1 year ago
these fucking people are crazy all they do is argue against each other and are ready to fight against each other they cruse each others leaders and each party thinks that he is more correct and more guided than the other i am telling you these people are fanatic and barbaric Thomas Jefferson is better than their whole societies their leaders and their fucking views on religion
kaligrs 1 year ago
we dont bring 9:84 as a proof.we have tones of verses from Quran about intercession
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
@infinitedimension1
yeah the opening verse of ayat-ul kursi...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 there are two type of intercessions.one is the legitimate intercession prophet Muhammed (saw) mentioned and Allah approved in the verses of Quran.At the same time there is a second type intercession that mushriks believe and Allah prohibits this kind of intercession and sends lots of verses about it.for example 10:18 -39:3.any verse including the word intercession criticize this type of intercession .That is why in ayat ul kursi it says none can intercede without the permission of Allah
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
@infinitedimension1
yeah so???
why do you assume that Prophet SAWW or any Aulya Allah will intercede for a person without the permission of Allah???
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 asking intercession from deaths and making tawassul with the personality of death were the belief system of mushriks.the legal intercession is possible only when prophets resurrect from death.we can not decide who can intercede to us.Quran clearly states that the people who called for intercession can not hear.even they hear,they can not answer our calls.intercession belongs only to Allah
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
@infinitedimension1
do you even know the meaning of intercession? how van intercession belongs to Allah???
its used for an intermediate...to whom will Allah intercede for us? you mean is there some higher authority than Allah (nauzobillah)???
Believing than Shaheeds are dead is against the essence of Quran (3:169-170).
Similarly quran mentions that Prophet SAWW is REHMAT-UL-LIL-AALAMEEN. now how do you think he's rehmat for u if Prophet SAWW is dead (incase u dont count yourself in alameen?
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 shaheeds are not dead because they are in heaven.this is what Quran teaches.intercession belongs to Allah means Allah decide who will intercede and Allah will decide who will be saved with intercession.in a hadith prophet Muhammed ask angels why they take his followers and send to the hellfire and angels say you dont know what bidahs they innovate.prophet Muhammed (saw) is unaware of us like prophet Jesus is unaware from christians(as mentioned in the verse 5:117)
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
@infinitedimension1
so now as you believe in intercession...and only Allah will decide who'll be saved from intercession, we can at least try to get the intercession of Prophet SAWW. Who knows we might be successful (Ameen)
zenda40 1 year ago
sahih muslim
Book 004, Number 1076: 'A'isha reported: Umm Habiba and Umm Salama made a mention before the Messenger of Allah of a church which they had seen in Abyssinia and which had pictures in it. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When a pious person amongst them (among the religious groups) dies they build a place of worship on his grave, and then decorate it with such pictures. They would be the worst of creatures on the Day of judgment in the sight of Allah.
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
sahih muslim
Book 004, Number 1079: 'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said during his illness from which he never recovered: Allah cursed the Jews and the Christians that they took the graves of their prophets as mosques. She ('A'isha) reported: Had it not been so, his (Prophet's) grave would have been in an open place, but it could not be due to the fear that it may not be taken as a mosque.
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
sahih muslim
Book 004, Number 2115: Abu'l-Hayyaj al-Asadi told that 'Ali (b. Abu Talib) said to him: Should I not send you on the same mission as Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent me? Do not leave an image without obliterating it, or a high grave without levelling It. This hadith has been reported by Habib with the same chain of transmitters and he said: (Do not leave) a picture without obliterating it.
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
sahih muslim
Book 004, Number 2114: Thumama b. Shafayy reported: When we were with Fadala b. 'Ubaid in the country of the Romans at a place (known as) Rudis, a friend of ours died. Fadala b. 'Ubaid ordered to prepare a grave for him and then it was levelled; and then he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) commanding (us) to level the grave.
infinitedimension1 1 year ago
Alhamdulilah I am Sunni. I visit graves, make dua 4 dem and also give dem salaam cuz it's Sunna! The only thing I hav 2 disagree wid is avoid makin sujood infront of graves regardless of ur intention it only gives a bad image to the lay Muslim. This is y wen readdin janaza we don't do sujood or ruku, the thing I must say to the wahabis is stop callin Muslims mushriqs and miscoting the Quran all the ayahs which wer 4 da mushriqs of Mecca don't put them on Muslims remember we all r goin 2 face A
MrSunnipower 1 year ago
Beware, this man is misguiding you. Grave worship of anyone is forbidden and considered idolatry. Also, insulting the Companions of the Prophet (sas) is a great evil! Shaytan has led this man and others like him astay. Muslims do not insult the Companions of the Prophet and Muslims do not call on anyone other than Allah. Allah is the only One who has power to do anything for us.
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
oh...so thats why you killed people of his religion in bombings on shrines...good going, kill all these idolters...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 Nothing happens except by the permission of Allah. Allah wanted it to happen, so it happened. All the good is from Allah and the bad is from you (because of your evil deeds). As you already know.
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
Cool!!!
So let's say Allah wanted this to happen as well...that there would be a group of people among Muslims ~(many sunnis and all the shais) who will approach Allah through the intercession of Holy Prophets and Aulya Allah...the same way Allah approaches HIS subjects...and there would be another group -the modern day Kharjies- by the name of wahabis...who will distort the image of Islam by their violent ways, and extremist character...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 Allah the Almighty Lord is in control of EVERYTHING. So, yes, Allah allows terrorists, grave worship which is shirk, unjust killing, all of these things. All of this is from Allah. WHY? Because this life is a TEST. To see: Who will obey the Prophets and Messengers He has sent? Who will obey the Scriptures He sent? Who will believe in Him and have the best manners and character, worshipping Allah and Allah ALONE calling on no other? That is who will enter the Paradise. This test is hard!
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
isnt it hypocrisy that when innocent women and children are killed in mosuqes and shrines (from the non-wahabi side), you said that they got killed because of their evil deeds...on the contrary when Americas kill Talibans and wahabis. it suddenly becomes TEST...:)
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40Hypocrisy is when someone says they believe in Allah when they realy don't, they show belief outwardly and hide disbelief inside. They enjoin evil and forbid good. Everything happens for a reason. If Allah wants to take a life He will do it. Allah has destroyed whole towns and cities (INCLUDING WOMEN AND CHILDREN) because of their disobedience. Every situation is different. Sometime people get killed for other reasons & go to paradise and some get killed and go to hell. Allah knows best.
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
when Allah knows best (which HE does), so why to accuse others of idolatry? and why to make assumptions that they seek help from 'people other than Allah'...only HE knows the intentions...only HE knows best!
zenda40 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
and by the will of Allah, these people will be eliminated by the hands of the Great Satan himself (USA)...and even if thats BAD, that's because of their evil deeds...where their Un-Islamic and violent deeds were bringing a bad name to not just Islam but humanity itself...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 To end your confusion, you must seek knoweldge. Try Islamqa online. You will find the real Muslims worshipping none but Allah, living in peace, clean, moral lives, not hurting others, defending the weak, doing justice, calling to Tawheed, and staying away from evil and sins. Killing is a great evil in Islam as you know. Only the Judge is allowed to sentence people to death and Jihad in an army under a Ruler to repel evil is the only other accepted killing. Other than that no killing.
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
sure i ll do that...
and to END your confusion...dont read anything...dont seek any knowledge as well, as it will only end up making you more rigid in your beliefs and more uncompromising about other beliefs...
all your supposedly standards of real Muslim are hypocritical: by falsely accusing a person of abusing companions, you just committed evil sinful act...by falsely assuming that certain people seek help from other than Allah, and then meddling in their affair...contd
zenda40 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
contd...
and then criticizing them and meddling in their affair, you have proved that you cant live in peace as well...needless to say that you hurted many people with your way...and didnt lead a moralistic life...so can I dare to say that you are a bad muslim, and a bad human being...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 The real Muslims read and recite Quran, understand the Quran the way the Prophet (sas) taught it and the way the Sahaba understood it. This can be found in authentic hadith Bukhari and Muslim and in Tafsir Ibn Kathir. Also, the real Muslims call on Allah and Allah Alone. NOONE ELSE AND NOTHING ELSE can help human beings except Allah, our Creator. La illaha illa Huwa!
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
what you perceive as grave worshiping, is actually INTERCESSION...no one prays to MUHAMMAD SAWW or his progeny...we ask THESE holy people to make pray for us...or we implore ALLAH to grant our wishes in the SADQA of these people...as Naqshwani said dont form your opinion without knowing the INTENTIONS...
when Allah who is all POWERFUL, choose to reach out to us through Prophets Imam Aulyah...so why cant we use this channel?
zenda40 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
it would be wrong if we assume that there is anyone else who grants our wishes...or if we think that ANYONE ELSE has the power to help us...or if we say that anyone else SHARE the powers of ALLAH as well.
and which Companion has he Insulted??? Insulting and abusing is Haram...peopel do it on their own, it has got nothing to do with Shias
zenda40 1 year ago
(Bukhari)
Narrateded 'Aisha & 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas: When the disease of Allah's Apostle got aggravated, he covered his face with a Khamisa, but when he became short of breath, he would remove it from his face and say, "It is like that! May Allah curse the Jews Christians because they took the graves of their prophets as... places of worship." By that he warned his follower of imitating them, by doing that which they did.
OurCreatorIsAllah 1 year ago
@OurCreatorIsAllah
Prophet of Allah SAWW will never cure anyone, as he SAWW was REHMAT-UL-LIL-AALAMEEN as said by Quran...so your hadith is flawed as well...
zenda40 1 year ago
Nice try brother. Now stop shaving, renew your iman and submit yourself only to Allah. stop worshiping graves. Dead people can not hear you. Only Allah can. May Allah guide u and all of us. Ameen.
vatandust 1 year ago
@vatandust
stop trying altogether...Bin Laden has a bigger beard than Imam-e-Kaaba...make him your mentor...or wait...is he already your mentor???
of course dead people cant hear us...but who said they are dead??? you assume as usual...and who worships grave??? another assumption...
Surely Allah guides us all...so why do you think you ll do BETTER than HIM...or is that another ASSUMPTION???
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 salam brother. I do not follow anyone or anything, but the book of Allah and the sunnah of his messenger. Rasul(s) himself ordered us to grow our beards and trim mustaches so why r u bringing up Bin Laden here? So, the straight path is to worship Allah only and to follow the messenger(pbuh). The messenger(pbuh) never asked for help from a dead person, rather only from Allah. So, why do I need to run to a grave when Allah is near and he can hear everything?
vatandust 1 year ago
@vatandust
i m bringing bin laden here because you judge the purity of one's iman from the length of beard or presence of mustache...
its your lack of knowledge that you think they are asking from dead person...Prophet was rehmat ullil aalameen, so how do you think he's rehmat for us??? similarly it is clearly mentioned in quran than Shaheeds are NOT DEAD.
there are countless references in quran which tells us about intercession like the opening verse of Ayat-ul-Kursi
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 brother, unfortunately, you still haven't pondered upon the meaning of the " La ilaha illallah, muhammadar rasulullah. It is more than just words, it must be the way of life. You ask only Allah for help and you accept that the task of the prophet(s) was only to convey message and to warn people. The prophet is Rahmatulill-alamin because Allah out of his mercy sent us our beloved prophet(s) and the Quran. Let's stop worshiping dead people, angels or prophets, and worship only Allah!!!
vatandust 1 year ago
@vatandust
actually on your point i pondered over the meaning and realized that why would believing in Prophet saww prophet hood is so important, that we have included it in kalma?
as you said its more than just words. Allah SWT after declaring HIMSELF as the ONLY ONE, choose to get known through His beloved Prophet SAWW. I mean He is all Capable, aint He? Why still He choose to being identified through Prophet SAWW. He could have passed the msg directly to us, but He choose a certain way.
zenda40 1 year ago
@vatandust
Now when Alalh being all-Powerful & all-Capable choose to reach through Prophet SAWW, why cant we choose the same way? Why cant we urged Prophet to Pray for us (intercession).
Similarly the Aulya Allah who were choosen by Alah to spread His msg...why cant we request them to forward our prayers to Allah SWT. Since they are nearer to Allah (spirtually) they can fwd our msg more effectively.
And mind it we are only asking them to intercede on our behalf...contd
zenda40 1 year ago
@vatandust
we are praying to Allah SWT only and expect ONLY HIM to answer our prayers. they (prophets and aulya-allah)are mere channels.
Dey may not b physically present between us but since v continue to benefit from their spirtual presence (as v still learn & get our religion from them)...thus Allah is atill using their services,
so similarly we can also use their spiritual presence. Da same way Prophet is rehmatullilaalameen...and not just rehmat for people who were present in his lifetime
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 Astaghfirullah, brother, That is exactly what the mushrikeen used to say to the prophet(s) when he was inviting them to worship Allah alone. They claimed same thing that they are not worshipping their idols and that they are just using them as " mere channels" to get closer to Allah. My brother lets not be like mushrikeen and the lost chrisitians. let's be muslims. and worship Allah alone. May ALlah guide us Ameen.
vatandust 1 year ago
@vatandust
they had different names for their idols and had assign them different jobs. they werent using them as channels.
we are using those channels to reach Allah that have been USED by Allah Himself...and are still being used by HIM...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 brother. I have tried to make it clear to you that asking anyone or anything else besides Allah for blessings and forgiveness is an act of shirk which is the greatest sin in the sight of Allah. Well, now it is up to you to decide, you have a choice to either repent and ask Allah for forgiveness and guidance, or keep on seeking help from the dead people. One thing when someone does it out of ignorance, another thing is when you knowingly commit shirk. May Allah guide u.
vatandust 1 year ago
@vatandust
and i have told you so many times that I indeed ask ALLAH and ALLAH only...why do you insist upon knowing my intention better than me???
its clearly mentioned in quran (3: 169-170) that shaheeds are not dead. now you keep calling them as dead Naozobillah. I suggest you to sincerely repent...anyone doubting the authenticity of Quran and words of Allah SWT is accomplishing a very sinful act.
Mat Allag guide you as well...
zenda40 1 year ago
@zenda40 Wallahi b