=God the Creator of the heavens and the earth and man said in the Holy Quran
(83) Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah(God) and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (84)
(74) The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away! (75)
Surah Al-Maeda
in bible=jesus say =This is life eternal: that they may know You the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent
==== God the Creator of the heavens and the earth and man said in the Holy Quran
(37) And verily, if thou shouldst ask them: Who created the heavens and the earth? they will Say: Allah(God). Say: Bethink you then of those ye worship beside Allah(God)
Surah Az-Zumar
--Is Jesus created the heavens and the earth NOOOOOOOOOOO
-- Is Jesus lord of heaven and earth NOOOOOOOOOOOO
====(( Matthew 11:25)) = Jesus said, "I praise You (God=Allah) Father, Lord of heaven and earth
=God the Creator of the heavens and the earth and man said in the Holy Quran
(5) And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is the Praised One(ahmed=muhammed). Yet when he hath come unto them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic. (6)
As Muslims, we believe Jesus Christ was a messenger of God like Abraham, Moses and Muhammad (peace be upon them all). We as Muslims also believe that Jesus was not crucified. For more information, refer to The Deen Show on Youtube.
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In the verse below Jesus says that he is doing God's will not his own :
==John 6:–38 (NKJV)
. 38 " For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me".
@TheValleyOfLight I BEAR WITNESS THAT ATHEIST, AGNOSTICS AND FREE THINKERS LIKE THIS BROTHER ARE FRUITS OF CHRISTIANITY, AND THEY ARE RIGHT IF SOMEONE TELL ME GOD IS THREE I WOULDNT BELIEVE IT. THE JUST NEED TRUE GUIDANCE, AND I PRAY THAT GOD MAY OPEN THEIR HEART TO THE TRUE FAITH OF ISLAM...
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this man isnt using common sense though hes biased therefore this isnt fair
think of alll the planets in the whole universe think of allll the galaxies its called trial and error i mean yes if there was only one planet that existed being earth then yeah its possible that theres a god but think all the planets are different too eachother in some way our planet is just the one that is able to sustain life did god randomly decide one day that he was going to create an earth? religion is to control
edward hubble proved all matter in the universe was moving apart in the 1920s - which latter led to the big bang theory - it was an astounding discovery no one had predicted - certainly no cleric or imam was discussing it - of late it was brought up muhamed said - something like - we made it with might and are expanding it - which now proves muhamed orginated the big bang theory - but if he did know one understood him - and it still doesnt prove a creator
-the logic has to be applied to everything - if god is something then he was created and his creator was created - to say the logic has to exempt god - is ilogical
@MrIzzyDizzy Fine, but could you please clarify where does the logic concludes if the creator is created. What I mean is that under this logic the process of creating the creator becomes endless. Do you think this makes sense anyway. Under this logic we can never have a creator since creator becomes a creation the moment he is created. In other words this universe goes without a creator as per this erroneous logic. Let us think over this with open mind.
@shahin3541 i think your right that logic adds no understanding - i think you have to stop at what you can know and admit what you do not - i think hubble discovered all matter in the universe was moving apart - so it led to a big bang origin - what is before that is not known - but does not require a creator - now we know all matter is moving apart at an increasing - seeming to defy the laws of gravity -which would slow its expansion - we dont know why this is - but we are studying it
@MrIzzyDizzy Okay, when was the Big Bang origin discovered ? I think you have the answer which is objectively clear. But Big Bang origin is clearly defined in Quran which was revealed 1400 hundred years ago..and for that matter many other findings which was beyond the realm of human mind at that stage of time. What explanation do you have to support your profanity ?
@MrIzzyDizzy Denying the Creator and your ingratitude towards all that you have got as bounties from God amounts to profanity and this is the vital reason why you are deprived of the guidance from the Almighty which could have led you to the eternal bliss. I can very well see you wandering in the wilderness of your random thoughts You might be a successful person materially but you seem to be miserably poor in terms of spirituality.You have chosen a path which leads to Hellfire only.
@shahin3541 well im sorry i cant accept god with out evidence and you have none to offer - to promise me bliss or hellfire or any consequence of any belief has no bearing on the truth or falsehood of that beleif - not beleiving in god is not profanity - any more than your not believing in empirical evdence is profanity - you may view me as a blashmer - many non believers view you as delusional - surely you see the oprresive nature of not allowing desention - you want to force acceptance -why?
@MrIzzyDizzy No, no way I want to force acceptance. This is just about expressing the views. You are free to continue with your choice and so do I.Sorry, if I have offended you anyway, but my intention was benign.When our eyes closes we will be left with nothing other than bearing the consequence. Hence we have got to reassure ourselves to what we are all about here for a fleeting time.Belief is something very personal and nobody can force it. Anyway, we shared our mind with each other. Thanks.
@shahin3541 further since the quran was so poorly written and really has no context - and has to be interpreted with the companion book - his we made it with might and are expanding it may mean any thing - he could be talking about the islamic empire he created - he certainly made and expanded it with violence
@MrIzzyDizzy It is your poor and bigoted perception that makes you speak this. What you are referring to is the expansion of the universe and not the Big Bang which clearly goes well with the scientific explanation. The companion book you are talking about is the descripion of the live demonstration of the Quran and this makes a good sense. I really wonder what all in the Quran would you be denying which are scientifically proven in the recent centuries and that is why it is a proven Faith.
@shahin3541 because we dont know alot of things and are finding new things that we cant yet explain - is not a reason to say something we dont know to explain it like- there is a creator is the cause -as that leads to the logical problem of the emdless need to create the creator - we must continue to study and learn what is happening and be honest enough to say we dont know - lets study it and see if we can grasp it - basicaly its ok to not know - and it gives us things to learn about -
@MrIzzyDizzy In order to grasp the complexities of the universe and the mysteries even beyond it we really have to be at par with the Creator or else we have to recognize the Creator through His Signs and seek His guidance towards acquiring knowledge and understanding concerning various aspects of life. Yes , we have to be honest about our limited resources and our acceptance to the fact that we have enough evidence to recognize our Creator having absolute power and no limitations whatsoever
@shahin3541 no we will grasp the complexies with ne methods - gamma ray telescopes -and telescopes all along the electric magnetic spectrum - along with supercollider expierements and general scientic inquiry - to say we have to regonise the creator through his signs is nteresting but if we cant measure those - then we cant jknow them - the creator as prosed has never been proven to exist scientificaly or even logicaly - his guidance and knowlede -are some books written by men
@MrIzzyDizzy So you stick to the fact that this universe is a product of random events and there is no Creator.Look at yourself and analyze your mechanism.Is it randomly created or have you made any contribution towards your creation ? If Quran is written 1400 years ago by man then how does it contain the scientific facts which have been explored and established in the recent centuries. Don't you think how systematic things could appear randomly ? May God bless you with the wisdom you require !
`SAK, Islam , along with all other Divine religions, is all about truthfulness of life - here and in the Hereafter. This is my sincere suggestion to reassure yourselves to the belief you uphold since it has got to be supported by your inner conscience which is a part of your soul, unlike your physical entity.
Science is not just based on "observation" Science observes, forms a hypothesis, gathers evidence, test's it, then to peer review, If it passes these tests, then it becomes a Theory. Religion is based on ancient superstition, fear, and ignorance.
@odiewan58 my dear brother i am afraid i don't agree with you over your last line of your comments. If you allow me I would like to share my mind with you just in the spirit of brotherhood. Warm regards
the fact that inteligence can make a thing doesnt prove in the slightest that biological processes ie life in all its forms are not part of naturals laws of selection - and again if you are inferring some creator - then who created the creator- as it must have been an intelligence greater than its creation by your "commonsense" further what could have made the creator of the creator of the creator without idiotic end - there no prooof of anything here -and you have failed in debunking the bs
yes it can come from random chance -and i se no reason to think it didnt and you surely didnt give 1 - further to say life could not exist is not verifiable - there are in fact types of life at the bottom of the oceans arising from entirely differnt enviroments
@MrIzzyDizzy Something cannot come out from nothing holds good for creation and not the creator. In fact, the very concept of creator cuts across the barriers of time, space, shape, beginning or end. He is beyond all limitations and that is why He is God. If you fail to agree upon these attributes of God you will always find God as a creation which is illogical to a rational mind.
Your numbers need to be researched better. One thing that cannot be argued is that around 9 million slaves were taken by western countries but over 12 million were taken by Islamic countries. I think when you use European or West does not give the facts correctly. Today the entity or belief that is killing or causing death due to their belief is Islam. The Islamic people will cave in by itself as they know all truths. I would rather be a snake in the desert than a woman in Islam.
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How does it feel to have a religion that kills for God and is responsible for 99.9 % of the terrorism on earth. Where Islam lives next to Christians and Jews, the Islamic parts are usually slums. How does it feel to teach your children to believe that Jews are decendents are from Pigs and monkeys. The civilizations of Islam are backwards and their societys are the among the worst in history. How is Allah working for you? How is Mohammed working for you?
@chingaters The fifty eight million who killed in south America by European ,eighty nine million Indian in north America are killed by European ,one hundred and eighty million African i mean 4 generation work to death as slave in America and in Europe which bulled by blood of African ,and don't forget first world war and second war and Japan ,victims form colony every were so who is terrorist ,if you have any knowledge you will not say ISLAMIC civilization or society is one of the worst lol
@STOKKKlD why kill infidel change ur mentality im muslim i have many friends italians.. from san marino (vatican) i have religion u have ur religion i respect ur religion respect my religion
LISTEN YOU CARE FULLY , KHABER AND OHAD JANG WHEN YOUR ALL 123 TEAM RUN OUT FROM JANG THEN HUZOR S..A.W.W ASKED ALI(( YA ALI MADAD )). JAHIL AWHAHBI YOU ASKING ((YA ALLHA MADAD ))YOU DIRTY BEFORE ASK ALLHA DIRECTLY HELP , HAVE YOU EVER THINK WHY ALLHA TAKE HELP HUZOR S.A.W.W TO GIVE ISLAM TO SIMPLE PEOPLE WHY ALLHA JUST PUT ISLAM TO YOUR JAHIL MIND FOR ALLHA IT IS NOT A PROBLEM
@nefrinhayat what shall we do during muharram? we cannot all of a sudden start doing something in which we have to do and say this is fardh or its haram and bad if u dont, that would be bidah. and if we should do anythnig then we should do the same for the hundreds of sahabas which have been killed by the kufaar and munafiqeen, why just him? wailing and crying over the dead is haram if u didnt know so what do u want me to do.
@nefrinhayat we follow the sahaba. his sunnah and his wives THAT all together includes the prophets family, why shouldnt aisha be respected? we respect all his wives when do we curse and hate or belittle his other wives? the reason why aisha is talked about alot is becuase she gave the second most amount of hadith after abu bakr which if not, if we would not know much about the prophet.
Who is to say that our reason is intelligent enough to deduct something we can barely understand? We cannot use human (evolved to survive by eating and reproducing) logic along with our limited 5 senses to "prove" something outstanding like that. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
Did you know ? According to Islam tradition there will be Islamic sex slave in paradise
Surah Dukhan 44: 54 Muslim martyrs will go to paradise and marry black-eyed virgins
Surah Al-Tur 52 : 17-20
Hozrot Ali narrated that the Apostle of Allah said, “There is in paradise an open market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, at once he will have intercourse with them as desired.” Al Hadiths, Vol. 4, Page-172, No.34
...but he created this world to prove our capacities to ourslef. Thats the only reason of creation. For humans to understand their limits and their capacities. The Taqdeer(fate) depends on Allah's will(true) but he is the most compassionate and won't put sth bad for his us. If sth goes wrong it is most likely because of ourself. I say mostly because in some cases other peoples actions may also affect our life like politicians, scholars etc. But with praying we can get rid of those problems Amin
One Master piece which I suggest all brothers and sisters whether Sunni or Shia or etc to watch it:
watch?v=n6TmmHrhGYg
Dear bro/sister
Whoever has told u this has said nonsense. The difference between human(and Jin) and other creatures is that they have freedom of choice. This world is also made to show humans what they capacities are? Allah could reward everybody or punish everyone without even creating this world and no one could oppose him because he knew the outcome ...
I was one of the blind followers of those people , am also the one who lead the prayer one time this man (abdul raheem green) . what am trying to say that i was very close to those people between 2000 and 2006 , the experience what a waist of time , lost almost everything in my live ,,,, causes due a crucial moment in my live where i had to do something and take the right decision in my live
well guess what i end up by following those one and their leaders ...
While majority of people agree with those points he makes in the video about reality and the world, there is still a problem. The problem is there is so many religions and trying to figure out which one is truth?. every religion is seperated and every person goes to one becoming closed minded to the other. I have taken it upon myself to do research on every religion, and what my conclusion is, they all bleieve in god. We all believe in god, right? sooo...Why don't we just love god and be one?
@HeRoICLaRRy Well said, brother. The video shows why Islam is the true religion. And I’m adding that all religions have the same root and they were finalized by Islam which all mankind should follow as the final religion, and the Prophet Muhammad as the seal of the Prophets. The problem is the arrogance where people know the truth but deny it because of the arrogance.
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Broadleyboy good qus mate. In my percpective the divine is Eternal and has no beginning (or end). If i stop and just Contemplate Eternity, I come to a realization that God cannot "produce" another like Him because once u create something it has a beginning. Ie. Can't be God.
The only thing that can make God, God. Is His eternity. Hope that helped.
OK so this guy is basic saying that something cant come from nothing. That someone or something must have made it. Implying that a God must have made the Earth and the Universe.
Well then who made God?
Did God just appear one day?
If he did then that would mean something came from nothing.
If another God made the current God we have now, then what made the God before that God?
@BroadleyBoy The God existed and always been there forever..nothing made Him. If otherwise, that is not God..He is the only one you need to worship..no others.
@khairilazizi Which god am I supposed to worship? Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc. If you listen to either religion they will say that there god is the true god. That would then imply that there is more than one god?
Personally I don't worship anything or any god. As the only thing we really know is we don't know!.
@BroadleyBoy Which one religion to follow...good question...my suggestion is follow your heart...do intelectual research about Islam, Christian and Jew like those scholar did. Listen to what they said. Convince yourself first with enough evidens that there is only one God. Dont just believed. There nothing in with "faith" without proof. Check out Jeffrey Lang the Prof. in Math who is an athies got to say when he convert to Islam.
@khairilazizi I think its foolish to use the words faith and proof in the same sentence. As faiths don't really require proof, only a belief that something is true or exists. Its good that there are many explanations for the bigger questions in life, and that people believe in different things. None of them are right and none of them are wrong. Problems arise from those not excepting others belief's. Something we are probably all guilty off.
@BroadleyBoy I think its foolish to use the words faith and proof in the same sentence.
yeahh..you are right. For some people they just have faith blindly. If I told them I am Phd holder, they will just believe it without any question. But for me i need to see the cert, books written or something that associated with that claim. Dont you agree?
This logical method also applies when you look into religious matter. Try and find something that make sense to your intelectual thinking.
I personally don't think you can apply logic to a lot of religious texts. More often than not religious texts can be interpreted in many different ways. Often religious texts describe miracles, which by there very nature defy logic. Although often said to be the word of god. All religious texts are written by man or men, hundreds of years ago. Before the discovery of many of the important things we now know, this goes against sense and intellectual thinking.
@BroadleyBoy "Often religious texts describe miracles, which by there very nature defy logic."
Agreed with your statement for most of the other religious text, but not Quran. Checkout Quran and Science in this youtube. You will know what I mean. I ‘ve done my research on this subject and it astonish me. People live 1400 years ago logically cannot know those scientific facts which recently found by our era scientist.
@khairilazizi Its fine if you believe in the Quran, It maybe special to you. But that doesn't mean that what's written in it has any scientific merit. There are youtube videos about the Bible and Science. Science and Religion are two different things.
I think Religion is harmful to science, By saying that one book is the authority on all things, and to think or believe other wise is wrong.
@BroadleyBoy According to the famous physicist and Nobel Prize winner Albert Einstein, "Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind."
If the famous scientist said that but you said otherwise, there is no more basis for an argument. Anyway, just to let you know Quran is the only religious book in this world which is compatible with science.
@khairilazizi Albert Einstien is a more intelligent man that the both of us. And he makes an interesting point. He also said "The important thing is not to stop questioning." Which is the point I was trying to make in my last post. In that I think religions can stop people questioning. If they blindly or are brain washed into believing The Quran or Bible.
@khairilazizi We can probably argue about religion till were both old and gray. I am not discounting or saying that there is not a God. As frankly we don't really know. If people BELIEVE in this or that, fine. But that belief is no better or truer than the beliefs of others. Islam is no better or worse than Christianity Hinduism Buddhism etc. They are all merely belief's that many people live there lives by.
@BroadleyBoy I do respect your view on this religious matter and it is good for not stop questioning. Dont blindly believing in anything that your logic cannot accept. 110% I agreed with you.
In the Quran, God commanded the Prophet to challenge all of creation to create a book of the stature of the Quran:“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
@khairilazizi I think its time to end our conversation and both agree to disagree, I will never believe that the Quran or Bible are anything more than story books written by men that believing in them is no different to believing in farther xmas
.it seems you will always believe that the Quran is the word of god! As long as neither of us wishes harm to others because there beliefs are different or we disagree with what they do.
I am not right you are not right, its just what we believe!
@BroadleyBoy Just remember bro..It is again you natural existance that you dont believed in anything devine. Hope you will continue searching....find the truth. Just pray in your heart that "God, if you r there, show me the way to you".
@khairilazizi I'm a little annoyed by your last comment, It is not against MY existence not to believe in the divine, You also don't need to pray for me. I am not looking nor want a god. Find what TRUTH your version of it? I am happy and have no need for my life to be based upon what a book tells me. I am free to live my life how I choose.
I mean you know harm, I am not telling you not to have your beliefs, only that I have mine and you have yours and we should leave it at that.
@briantheslug < We can't prove that but it's likely he is a pedophile. Michael Jackson also ran to middle East for same reason. Other reason could be polygamy.
Also one eyed man is always wise man in a society of blinds.
Muslims hate blacks and love white man joining them. And they put him on pedestal.
@Zeno1999 You son of bicth...the word "phedo" itself come from you backyard that mean your maniac people do that and try to blame others. Dont bicthing aroud if you dont even know who your own father is.
@khairilazizi < I guess a pig is pretty safe animal in the Muslim country, so I would let you label me that.
Based on Koran, all non-Muslims either should be converted or killed; so to me being a non-Muslim, proactive task would be to eliminate this threat. Further, we judge a tree from its fruit, "claim of peaceful religion" has no power in the 21st century so come out of 700AD.
Currently, all these "radical" Islamic groups want to restore their Caliphate that ended in 1638, battle of Vienna.
@Zeno1999 That where your piggy brain cant catch up..becoz you refer to Koran which written by non Muslim, The real Quran which given by God never said about killing non Muslim usless they attacked us. Logicly, there wont any Choptic cristian left in Egypt or Jews in Iran if your claim is right. Did you know abt history in Damascus, muslims and cristian pray in the same building, friday for muslims, sunday for cristian and for years they do that.
@khairilazizi < The times you are describing was when Muslims were attacking new lands so they let it be peaceful at home.
Try reading history from non-Muslim's perspective. Why you think Hindus fought for 1000yrs with Muslim rulers. These rulers never able to take more than 10% of India. That's why it is not another Iran ! Look at what oldest churches facing in the Turkey today(UT videos).
Fooled me once, shame on you; fooled twice shame on me.
@Zeno1999 Do you know in only 23 years, muslims empire bigger than roman empire or persian empire. So, do you really think that muslims cannot take over India within 1000 years?..haha ridiculous idea given by your encestor to make you feel proud..by the way...Muslims didnt just go and attack new land, but it was requested by the citizens when those country ruler ruling with opression.
See doctor when you sick, do not see mechanic, meaning that learn Islam from Muslim not from non Muslim.
Can you start with list of citizens who invited Islam in Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, India, Chechnya, Malaysia, Indonesia, Fiji Islands ?
@Zeno1999I do not have those list because I am not Islamic scholar to do research on it but I do know several of the invitation letters still available in several Muslims country museum. For Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippine, China,..etc, they convert to Islam because attracted to Indians and Arabs Muslim on the way they conducting their manner and truthful in their business at that time. The truth right now, many people convert to Islam start from hatred then fall in love with Islam.
@khairilazizi < People convert for personal reasons to any religion; leaving one for another is a very euphoric experience. Most people suffer from low self-esteem and some resentment toward immediate environment. Conversion allow them to make make some form of positive change.
Is such change necessary in today's world ? NO.
Psychotherapy, yoga, and other personal growth systems create positive change in people's lives. So you are seeing more and more people choosing to be atheists .. cont.
@khairilazizi ... or agnostics/spiritual. Does it make sense ?
Human beings are "pure consciousness." Hate is absence of love. Hate also comes from ignorance and any of the other negative emotions such as : jealousy, greed, arrogance, lust and material attachment.
Any religion that imprison its followers or fresh members is not a true faith of almighty creator. This is why apostasy in Islam is treated as treason, punished by death; still sound like religion? No, it's a cruel cult in disguise.
@Zeno1999 People who convert to atheist, agnostic or no religion mostly from Christian background. Why? Becoz they cannot found peace in their soul there. Apostasy is punish by death in Islam is not true, but its punishment is reserved for divine judgment in the Last Day (as per surah2.217). In Islam, there is no compulsion to be a Muslim or stay as a Muslim. We believed in sincerity toward believed in Allah. Hopefully your misunderstood about that cleared.
@khairilazizi < Only intelligent and good thinkers become atheist/agnostics. There is conversion just a common sense. Judaism/Christianity/Islam has just too many mistakes in their holy books and these religions are judged by what they accomplished since inception.
Surah2.217 is a mockery of human intelligence, this keep you in a bondage making "no compulsion" a pig-crap. Guilt, shame, fear and alienation are tools of cults to keep the followers on a pablum of more lies. Pl run and get help.
@Zeno1999 Good thinkers and inteligent man convert to Islam...only stupid ego man become atheist/agnostics..Do you really believe that your purpose of life here is just to become food for the worms when you die?? the same as other animal such as Pig? and monkey is your close relative? That is the most funny believed ever created by human mind...
@khairilazizi < Why argue with a person who spell intelligent as : "inteligent."
You are underdeveloped "human mind" and I'm talking about "pure consciousness" which is above mind and body. Next, I would be accused of throwing the pearls in front pigs.
@mycutelittlepandas < Auto-correct then. If you are so sloppy here then who knows what else you are neglecting. My words communicates and represent my intelligence.
@khairilazizi < It means you are unconscious ! I'm making you more aware your condition or trying anyways.
I don't need any religion to teach me what I'm; besides a true God is not an angry judge to watch our kowtows. Our actions create our salvation; God created a self sustaining universe and gone to create more, IMO.
Humanity needs to unite and defeat oppression caused by hidden oligarchy.
@khairilazizi Sir, Religions have done good & bad to humanity. It is quite capable to solve most of its problems without the aid of divinity, a concept, falling in the same category as Ghosts, Leprachauns, Pegasus, Phoenix that people believe yet they exist not. Atheism is not a religion, no scripture, just one rule: Rationality. Rabi, Mullah, Pandit, Prest & Unscrupulous Politicians fear Atheism lest Masses become educated denying them easy living at the cost of their people. Enjoy today.
Ok how does thius lead to Islam????!!!! Use your brain and investigate the life of your prophet. Do you think we will all agree with his lifestyle???? DEFINITELY NOT.
@rmne12 Your fucking bitch budha or in what shit u believe in is a fake god asholes !! WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALLAH IS A FUCKING ASSHOLLE BITCH !!!!!!
Hold the rope of Allah strongly & be not devided. Hazrat Mohammad SAW said "Mun Kunto Maula Fahaza Ali Maula", jis jis ka main maula, uss uss ka Ali Maula.
This Hadith is quoted by most of the Muslim scholars, Barelvi & Wahabis alike. Maulana Maudidi Also quoted in his book "Khilafat aur Malookiyat"
So Please dont get divided & follow what Hazrat Mohammad SAW said. ALI is your Maula & maula of all the muslims, living or dead.
قال رسو ل الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: ليبلغن هذا الدين ما بلغ الليل والنهار، ولا يترك الله بيت مدر ولا وبر إلا أدخله الله هذا الدين، بعز عزيز أو بذل ذليل، عزاً يعز به الإسلام، وذلاً يذل الله به الكفر(انظر تخريجه الأحاديث الصحيحة للألباني رقم 3
I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. - Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2
Eistein was not a atheist. He has only a different belive.
"I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws''.
I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)
How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no theology? In my view, it is the most important function of art and science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are receptive to it." - Albert Einstein
@mycutelittlepandas < It is unhealthy for men and women to have multiple partners. Our body has to adjust to spouse's fluids on DNA level which makes immune system set off alarm creating antibodies.
So all religions allowing polygamy are based on falsehood. True religions are only based on "eternal natural laws" that even creator respects and obeys; practicing such religion is a personal choice. Creator only judge us from our actions that violate natural laws. Atheism is ok too.
@mycutelittlepandas Well this guy seems pretty braindead to me and yet he has religion? He talks of the true religion - they're all false. Religions retard mankind!
@mycutelittlepandas says the dude who lives his life based on a book and stone tablet that was dropped by some dude sitting on a cloud a millenia ago
religion is horse shit, its teachings are not wrong, but its something we should know and do already as humans, not just cuz some made up guy in the sky tells us to and threatens us with it
maybe both of you where given the thumb because you are rude and obnoxious, science is a blessing from God given to man so that he would not be ignorant but inlightened, science is something which every human being understands, however not everyone understands kindness good behaviour and civility, specially athiests minded people which i imagine you are.
I challenge that assertion. What god? Which God? All i see here is science. Your god is make believe and if you don't think it is I suggest you get electroshock.
LOL why dont you watch the video, its all there if you're sincer about knowing the truth as to wether there is a God, seems to me however you're just here to pointlessly argue with people and waste their time. perhaps ur time is meaningless but mine is precious.
I've heard everything form the telological, ontological, and cosmological argument. I can't take the bible's word for anything because that in of itself is not evidence. I've seen all the evidence you can give but, i'm more interested in what YOU think is good evidence.
do you want to know what i think? i think ur just wasting time :), LOL just watch the video and if you can find anything that logically goes against what this man is saying then ask. however if you cant then be honest with yourself, except God and dont hide from reality.
thats my last message to you, may Allah guide you to what is best, good bye ^_^
God by definition is not subject to anything, neither is God subject to nature or the supernatural. However, it is well established that both the Natural and Super Natural (ignroing definitions for the time being) are subject to God.
You are on a completely different platform to me. Even though God is supernatural, God is able to control both natural and supernatural phenominon.
About "time"
When you call "time" a duration, how sure of it are you when you look at things in the bigger picture? From which perspective are you looking at it? From your own or from a more advanced state? In the third dimension it may look like a change of state of events happening, however, its far more concrete if you analyse it from a 4D pow.
You originally claimed "created by god" and "natural means" are not necessarily mutually exclusive and i showed you how that is wrong. Do you admit god creating the universe is a supernatural occurrence or not? If so we can move on to focusing on time.
Time is a measurement, like meters or inches. I'm looking at this whole thing from the perspective of logic and reason.
Are you going to address my argument or keep changing the subject?
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Isaiah (chapter 21 verses (13): (inspired by the Arab countries on the one hand, in the forest in Arabia)
The Prophet Of Arabia how
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=God the Creator of the heavens and the earth and man said in the Holy Quran
(83) Say (O Muhammad): We believe in Allah(God) and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which was vouchsafed unto Moses and Jesus and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (84)
Surah Al-E-Imran
max76689 1 week ago
.God says In the Quran
(74) The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away! (75)
Surah Al-Maeda
in bible=jesus say =This is life eternal: that they may know You the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent
Christians worship messenger
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==== God the Creator of the heavens and the earth and man said in the Holy Quran
(37) And verily, if thou shouldst ask them: Who created the heavens and the earth? they will Say: Allah(God). Say: Bethink you then of those ye worship beside Allah(God)
Surah Az-Zumar
--Is Jesus created the heavens and the earth NOOOOOOOOOOO
-- Is Jesus lord of heaven and earth NOOOOOOOOOOOO
====(( Matthew 11:25)) = Jesus said, "I praise You (God=Allah) Father, Lord of heaven and earth
max76689 1 week ago
=God the Creator of the heavens and the earth and man said in the Holy Quran
(5) And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is the Praised One(ahmed=muhammed). Yet when he hath come unto them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic. (6)
Surah As-Saff
max76689 1 week ago
Christians go to hell fir Christians worship the man born of woman he eats and drinks and sleeps and go to the toilet ......... it's the truth,
O Christians Wake
Christians go to hell fire
Does God eat NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
max76689 1 week ago
in bible
Deut 21:18-21 Kill children
Lev 26:27-29, Jer 19:9 Cannibalize children
Num 31:18 Rape Virgins
Deut 13:6-11 Kill preachers of foreign religions
1 Cor 14:34-35 Shame for woman to talk in church
1 Pet 2:18 Cruel slavery is ok
The only book on earth, which calls for the killing of children is the Bible
The only book on earth, which calls for the killing of children is the Bible
max76689 1 week ago
The only religion with GOD is Islam, which He has chosen for His slaves, and He will not accept any other religion.
====GOD has said in the Quran====
"And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers" 3:85
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The Prophet Of Arabia how
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==Isaiah (chapter 21 verses (13): (inspired by the Arab countries on the one hand, in the forest in Arabia)
The Prophet Of Arabia how
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mohammad-pbuh
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meca((((baca))))) in bible
----holy quran----
3:96 The first house established for the people is the one in(((((( Baca))))); a blessed beacon for all the people.
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PSA-84-6 : Who passing through the valley of (((((Baca)))))) make it a well; the rain also filleth the pools.
PSA-84-4 : Blessed are they that dwell in thy house: they will be still praising thee. Selah.
PSA-84-5 : Blessed is the man whose strength is in thee; in whose heart are the ways of them.
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As Muslims, we believe Jesus Christ was a messenger of God like Abraham, Moses and Muhammad (peace be upon them all). We as Muslims also believe that Jesus was not crucified. For more information, refer to The Deen Show on Youtube.
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In the verse below Jesus says that he is doing God's will not his own :
==John 6:–38 (NKJV)
. 38 " For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me".
max76689 1 week ago
TEACH WITH HIKMA, ZAJAKUMULAHA KAIRA...
julio14335 1 month ago
Religion is fake....Religion is mind-control over the weak!!! God is real and religion is a lie created by man.
TheValleyOfLight 3 months ago
@TheValleyOfLight I BEAR WITNESS THAT ATHEIST, AGNOSTICS AND FREE THINKERS LIKE THIS BROTHER ARE FRUITS OF CHRISTIANITY, AND THEY ARE RIGHT IF SOMEONE TELL ME GOD IS THREE I WOULDNT BELIEVE IT. THE JUST NEED TRUE GUIDANCE, AND I PRAY THAT GOD MAY OPEN THEIR HEART TO THE TRUE FAITH OF ISLAM...
julio14335 1 month ago
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smuk1900 4 months ago
MASHA ALLAH....GREAT VIEWS & ARGUMENTS BY THIS MUSLIM BROTHER.MAY ALLAH BLESS HIM & GIVE HIM MORE COURAGE TO SAY & SPREAD THE TRUTH...,..AMEN.
haqkahan 6 months ago
this man isnt using common sense though hes biased therefore this isnt fair
think of alll the planets in the whole universe think of allll the galaxies its called trial and error i mean yes if there was only one planet that existed being earth then yeah its possible that theres a god but think all the planets are different too eachother in some way our planet is just the one that is able to sustain life did god randomly decide one day that he was going to create an earth? religion is to control
xIRGUYx 7 months ago
edward hubble proved all matter in the universe was moving apart in the 1920s - which latter led to the big bang theory - it was an astounding discovery no one had predicted - certainly no cleric or imam was discussing it - of late it was brought up muhamed said - something like - we made it with might and are expanding it - which now proves muhamed orginated the big bang theory - but if he did know one understood him - and it still doesnt prove a creator
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
-the logic has to be applied to everything - if god is something then he was created and his creator was created - to say the logic has to exempt god - is ilogical
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy Fine, but could you please clarify where does the logic concludes if the creator is created. What I mean is that under this logic the process of creating the creator becomes endless. Do you think this makes sense anyway. Under this logic we can never have a creator since creator becomes a creation the moment he is created. In other words this universe goes without a creator as per this erroneous logic. Let us think over this with open mind.
shahin3541 8 months ago
@shahin3541 i think your right that logic adds no understanding - i think you have to stop at what you can know and admit what you do not - i think hubble discovered all matter in the universe was moving apart - so it led to a big bang origin - what is before that is not known - but does not require a creator - now we know all matter is moving apart at an increasing - seeming to defy the laws of gravity -which would slow its expansion - we dont know why this is - but we are studying it
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy Okay, when was the Big Bang origin discovered ? I think you have the answer which is objectively clear. But Big Bang origin is clearly defined in Quran which was revealed 1400 hundred years ago..and for that matter many other findings which was beyond the realm of human mind at that stage of time. What explanation do you have to support your profanity ?
shahin3541 8 months ago
@shahin3541 i dont recall using any profanity
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy Denying the Creator and your ingratitude towards all that you have got as bounties from God amounts to profanity and this is the vital reason why you are deprived of the guidance from the Almighty which could have led you to the eternal bliss. I can very well see you wandering in the wilderness of your random thoughts You might be a successful person materially but you seem to be miserably poor in terms of spirituality.You have chosen a path which leads to Hellfire only.
shahin3541 8 months ago
@shahin3541 well im sorry i cant accept god with out evidence and you have none to offer - to promise me bliss or hellfire or any consequence of any belief has no bearing on the truth or falsehood of that beleif - not beleiving in god is not profanity - any more than your not believing in empirical evdence is profanity - you may view me as a blashmer - many non believers view you as delusional - surely you see the oprresive nature of not allowing desention - you want to force acceptance -why?
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy No, no way I want to force acceptance. This is just about expressing the views. You are free to continue with your choice and so do I.Sorry, if I have offended you anyway, but my intention was benign.When our eyes closes we will be left with nothing other than bearing the consequence. Hence we have got to reassure ourselves to what we are all about here for a fleeting time.Belief is something very personal and nobody can force it. Anyway, we shared our mind with each other. Thanks.
shahin3541 8 months ago
@shahin3541 further since the quran was so poorly written and really has no context - and has to be interpreted with the companion book - his we made it with might and are expanding it may mean any thing - he could be talking about the islamic empire he created - he certainly made and expanded it with violence
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy It is your poor and bigoted perception that makes you speak this. What you are referring to is the expansion of the universe and not the Big Bang which clearly goes well with the scientific explanation. The companion book you are talking about is the descripion of the live demonstration of the Quran and this makes a good sense. I really wonder what all in the Quran would you be denying which are scientifically proven in the recent centuries and that is why it is a proven Faith.
shahin3541 8 months ago
@shahin3541 because we dont know alot of things and are finding new things that we cant yet explain - is not a reason to say something we dont know to explain it like- there is a creator is the cause -as that leads to the logical problem of the emdless need to create the creator - we must continue to study and learn what is happening and be honest enough to say we dont know - lets study it and see if we can grasp it - basicaly its ok to not know - and it gives us things to learn about -
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy In order to grasp the complexities of the universe and the mysteries even beyond it we really have to be at par with the Creator or else we have to recognize the Creator through His Signs and seek His guidance towards acquiring knowledge and understanding concerning various aspects of life. Yes , we have to be honest about our limited resources and our acceptance to the fact that we have enough evidence to recognize our Creator having absolute power and no limitations whatsoever
shahin3541 8 months ago
@shahin3541 no we will grasp the complexies with ne methods - gamma ray telescopes -and telescopes all along the electric magnetic spectrum - along with supercollider expierements and general scientic inquiry - to say we have to regonise the creator through his signs is nteresting but if we cant measure those - then we cant jknow them - the creator as prosed has never been proven to exist scientificaly or even logicaly - his guidance and knowlede -are some books written by men
MrIzzyDizzy 8 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy So you stick to the fact that this universe is a product of random events and there is no Creator.Look at yourself and analyze your mechanism.Is it randomly created or have you made any contribution towards your creation ? If Quran is written 1400 years ago by man then how does it contain the scientific facts which have been explored and established in the recent centuries. Don't you think how systematic things could appear randomly ? May God bless you with the wisdom you require !
shahin3541 8 months ago
`SAK, Islam , along with all other Divine religions, is all about truthfulness of life - here and in the Hereafter. This is my sincere suggestion to reassure yourselves to the belief you uphold since it has got to be supported by your inner conscience which is a part of your soul, unlike your physical entity.
musthak1980 8 months ago
True religion
omlil74 8 months ago
Science is not just based on "observation" Science observes, forms a hypothesis, gathers evidence, test's it, then to peer review, If it passes these tests, then it becomes a Theory. Religion is based on ancient superstition, fear, and ignorance.
odiewan58 9 months ago
@odiewan58 my dear brother i am afraid i don't agree with you over your last line of your comments. If you allow me I would like to share my mind with you just in the spirit of brotherhood. Warm regards
shahin3541 8 months ago
the fact that inteligence can make a thing doesnt prove in the slightest that biological processes ie life in all its forms are not part of naturals laws of selection - and again if you are inferring some creator - then who created the creator- as it must have been an intelligence greater than its creation by your "commonsense" further what could have made the creator of the creator of the creator without idiotic end - there no prooof of anything here -and you have failed in debunking the bs
MrIzzyDizzy 9 months ago
yes it can come from random chance -and i se no reason to think it didnt and you surely didnt give 1 - further to say life could not exist is not verifiable - there are in fact types of life at the bottom of the oceans arising from entirely differnt enviroments
MrIzzyDizzy 9 months ago
if something cant come from nothing then god you canr even prove must have come from something - yet you deny the very law yuo claim is commonsense
MrIzzyDizzy 9 months ago
@MrIzzyDizzy Something cannot come out from nothing holds good for creation and not the creator. In fact, the very concept of creator cuts across the barriers of time, space, shape, beginning or end. He is beyond all limitations and that is why He is God. If you fail to agree upon these attributes of God you will always find God as a creation which is illogical to a rational mind.
shahin3541 8 months ago
part of the negative number 3 ie (-3) is greater than than the whole of -3
MrIzzyDizzy 9 months ago
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ISLAM = CULT, not religion
MUHAMMAD = CONMAN, not the true prophet even chosen by God
QURAN = WORK OF FICTION with self-contradictory verses
ALLAH = SATAN IN DISGUISE, not God
TRUE GOD = love, compassion, forgiveness, peace, tolerance, freedom, joy, etc.
ALLAH (Satan in disguise) = hatred, vengence, jealousy, war, intolerance, slavery, misery, oppression, etc.
TRUE GOD = honesty always
ALLAH = TIQIYYA = lies, dishonesty and false promises of 72 houris in any heavenly brothel.
2urita 9 months ago
Your numbers need to be researched better. One thing that cannot be argued is that around 9 million slaves were taken by western countries but over 12 million were taken by Islamic countries. I think when you use European or West does not give the facts correctly. Today the entity or belief that is killing or causing death due to their belief is Islam. The Islamic people will cave in by itself as they know all truths. I would rather be a snake in the desert than a woman in Islam.
chingaters 10 months ago
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. If any one need any help to know about islam or prophet Muhammad or Jesus peace be upon them in islam or any other thing. He/she can ask me and being in contact with my by this email
weloveprophetjesus.islam@hotmail.com
If any one need a book about islam,just please send me an email . Thank you sisters and brothers.
aseelosama 10 months ago
Mormon and Freemason is the true religion.
hdeloya 10 months ago
How does it feel to have a religion that kills for God and is responsible for 99.9 % of the terrorism on earth. Where Islam lives next to Christians and Jews, the Islamic parts are usually slums. How does it feel to teach your children to believe that Jews are decendents are from Pigs and monkeys. The civilizations of Islam are backwards and their societys are the among the worst in history. How is Allah working for you? How is Mohammed working for you?
chingaters 10 months ago
@chingaters The fifty eight million who killed in south America by European ,eighty nine million Indian in north America are killed by European ,one hundred and eighty million African i mean 4 generation work to death as slave in America and in Europe which bulled by blood of African ,and don't forget first world war and second war and Japan ,victims form colony every were so who is terrorist ,if you have any knowledge you will not say ISLAMIC civilization or society is one of the worst lol
abduallahhassan 10 months ago
Thouest must with great haste take thyne Holy Quran and administer to thyne rectum post bowel movement
Moissenjeff 10 months ago
@STOKKKlD why kill infidel change ur mentality im muslim i have many friends italians.. from san marino (vatican) i have religion u have ur religion i respect ur religion respect my religion
djromancia98 10 months ago
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LISTEN YOU CARE FULLY , KHABER AND OHAD JANG WHEN YOUR ALL 123 TEAM RUN OUT FROM JANG THEN HUZOR S..A.W.W ASKED ALI(( YA ALI MADAD )). JAHIL AWHAHBI YOU ASKING ((YA ALLHA MADAD ))YOU DIRTY BEFORE ASK ALLHA DIRECTLY HELP , HAVE YOU EVER THINK WHY ALLHA TAKE HELP HUZOR S.A.W.W TO GIVE ISLAM TO SIMPLE PEOPLE WHY ALLHA JUST PUT ISLAM TO YOUR JAHIL MIND FOR ALLHA IT IS NOT A PROBLEM
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lilyjamespotter1 11 months ago
@nefrinhayat what shall we do during muharram? we cannot all of a sudden start doing something in which we have to do and say this is fardh or its haram and bad if u dont, that would be bidah. and if we should do anythnig then we should do the same for the hundreds of sahabas which have been killed by the kufaar and munafiqeen, why just him? wailing and crying over the dead is haram if u didnt know so what do u want me to do.
iloveafg123 11 months ago
@nefrinhayat we follow the sahaba. his sunnah and his wives THAT all together includes the prophets family, why shouldnt aisha be respected? we respect all his wives when do we curse and hate or belittle his other wives? the reason why aisha is talked about alot is becuase she gave the second most amount of hadith after abu bakr which if not, if we would not know much about the prophet.
iloveafg123 11 months ago
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Who is to say that our reason is intelligent enough to deduct something we can barely understand? We cannot use human (evolved to survive by eating and reproducing) logic along with our limited 5 senses to "prove" something outstanding like that. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence...
yamenhawit 11 months ago
3:52 and the anser is your "GOD" came out of nothing .. propably !!
afendra 11 months ago
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Did you know ? According to Islam tradition there will be Islamic sex slave in paradise
Surah Dukhan 44: 54 Muslim martyrs will go to paradise and marry black-eyed virgins
Surah Al-Tur 52 : 17-20
Hozrot Ali narrated that the Apostle of Allah said, “There is in paradise an open market wherein there will be no buying or selling, but will consist of men and women. When a man desires a beauty, at once he will have intercourse with them as desired.” Al Hadiths, Vol. 4, Page-172, No.34
SuperPricil 1 year ago
...but he created this world to prove our capacities to ourslef. Thats the only reason of creation. For humans to understand their limits and their capacities. The Taqdeer(fate) depends on Allah's will(true) but he is the most compassionate and won't put sth bad for his us. If sth goes wrong it is most likely because of ourself. I say mostly because in some cases other peoples actions may also affect our life like politicians, scholars etc. But with praying we can get rid of those problems Amin
immortality2011 1 year ago
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immortality2011 1 year ago
want i want to say is that by his will , he doesnt want us to be happy or to have any chance to avoid panishment in hear after .
according to the Ahlu sunna wall djama
the whole concept of this religion and what will happen to most all of us human
rely on his will
we are under the mercy oh what he loves and what he want or will
what he loves for us there is nothing great in this world
but the reality we are going to end for what he want or will
and that what is the reality of today
RAI2TORONTO 1 year ago
the belief in Allah , and folowing the truth of salafist or sunis or much better ahlu suna what ever you call it .
i spend over 15 years exercicing and practicing islam .
amizing and how Allah show me his bounty .
he never answer when i was in need or in any positive way.
am so confused , if i do belief in him , i have to set up my mind and say that this religion according to his will , was not made to everyone
mean he does not want us , but according to their leaders he show us what is
RAI2TORONTO 1 year ago
@RAI2TORONTO
One Master piece which I suggest all brothers and sisters whether Sunni or Shia or etc to watch it:
watch?v=n6TmmHrhGYg
Dear bro/sister
Whoever has told u this has said nonsense. The difference between human(and Jin) and other creatures is that they have freedom of choice. This world is also made to show humans what they capacities are? Allah could reward everybody or punish everyone without even creating this world and no one could oppose him because he knew the outcome ...
immortality2011 1 year ago
Good evening to every one .
I was one of the blind followers of those people , am also the one who lead the prayer one time this man (abdul raheem green) . what am trying to say that i was very close to those people between 2000 and 2006 , the experience what a waist of time , lost almost everything in my live ,,,, causes due a crucial moment in my live where i had to do something and take the right decision in my live
well guess what i end up by following those one and their leaders ...
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RAI2TORONTO 1 year ago
I would like to ask you a question? When you die where will you go and why?
RURIGHT 1 year ago
@MrChatingKicker YES IT DOES!!!
RURIGHT 1 year ago
While majority of people agree with those points he makes in the video about reality and the world, there is still a problem. The problem is there is so many religions and trying to figure out which one is truth?. every religion is seperated and every person goes to one becoming closed minded to the other. I have taken it upon myself to do research on every religion, and what my conclusion is, they all bleieve in god. We all believe in god, right? sooo...Why don't we just love god and be one?
HeRoICLaRRy 1 year ago
@HeRoICLaRRy Well said, brother. The video shows why Islam is the true religion. And I’m adding that all religions have the same root and they were finalized by Islam which all mankind should follow as the final religion, and the Prophet Muhammad as the seal of the Prophets. The problem is the arrogance where people know the truth but deny it because of the arrogance.
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educatedenlightened 1 year ago
May Allah bless you for sharing such wonderful video. It is 100% proof for whoever doubts that Allah is there.
MrChatingKicker 1 year ago
bullshit
mavirk 1 year ago
@mavirk
MegaAFG4LIFE 1 year ago
the brother is not a sheikh, he has not graduated from any institution. But the lecture was nice mashallah.
hanafifiqh 1 year ago
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+ Question: was Jesus really God? Does god eat, sleep and go to the toilet
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Then one day God decides to commit suicide!
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He kills his son and one third of himself
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BWWWAAAAAHahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Richbeeee 1 year ago
Broadleyboy good qus mate. In my percpective the divine is Eternal and has no beginning (or end). If i stop and just Contemplate Eternity, I come to a realization that God cannot "produce" another like Him because once u create something it has a beginning. Ie. Can't be God.
The only thing that can make God, God. Is His eternity. Hope that helped.
siLky84 1 year ago
Alhamdulilah................i salute u..........
smelshlykbb05 1 year ago
OK so this guy is basic saying that something cant come from nothing. That someone or something must have made it. Implying that a God must have made the Earth and the Universe.
Well then who made God?
Did God just appear one day?
If he did then that would mean something came from nothing.
If another God made the current God we have now, then what made the God before that God?
Or has God always been here, forever?
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy The God existed and always been there forever..nothing made Him. If otherwise, that is not God..He is the only one you need to worship..no others.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi Which god am I supposed to worship? Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc. If you listen to either religion they will say that there god is the true god. That would then imply that there is more than one god?
Personally I don't worship anything or any god. As the only thing we really know is we don't know!.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy Which one religion to follow...good question...my suggestion is follow your heart...do intelectual research about Islam, Christian and Jew like those scholar did. Listen to what they said. Convince yourself first with enough evidens that there is only one God. Dont just believed. There nothing in with "faith" without proof. Check out Jeffrey Lang the Prof. in Math who is an athies got to say when he convert to Islam.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi I think its foolish to use the words faith and proof in the same sentence. As faiths don't really require proof, only a belief that something is true or exists. Its good that there are many explanations for the bigger questions in life, and that people believe in different things. None of them are right and none of them are wrong. Problems arise from those not excepting others belief's. Something we are probably all guilty off.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy I think its foolish to use the words faith and proof in the same sentence.
yeahh..you are right. For some people they just have faith blindly. If I told them I am Phd holder, they will just believe it without any question. But for me i need to see the cert, books written or something that associated with that claim. Dont you agree?
This logical method also applies when you look into religious matter. Try and find something that make sense to your intelectual thinking.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi
I personally don't think you can apply logic to a lot of religious texts. More often than not religious texts can be interpreted in many different ways. Often religious texts describe miracles, which by there very nature defy logic. Although often said to be the word of god. All religious texts are written by man or men, hundreds of years ago. Before the discovery of many of the important things we now know, this goes against sense and intellectual thinking.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy "Often religious texts describe miracles, which by there very nature defy logic."
Agreed with your statement for most of the other religious text, but not Quran. Checkout Quran and Science in this youtube. You will know what I mean. I ‘ve done my research on this subject and it astonish me. People live 1400 years ago logically cannot know those scientific facts which recently found by our era scientist.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi Its fine if you believe in the Quran, It maybe special to you. But that doesn't mean that what's written in it has any scientific merit. There are youtube videos about the Bible and Science. Science and Religion are two different things.
I think Religion is harmful to science, By saying that one book is the authority on all things, and to think or believe other wise is wrong.
Is harmful to the creativity of the human mind.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy According to the famous physicist and Nobel Prize winner Albert Einstein, "Science without religion is lame and religion without science is blind."
If the famous scientist said that but you said otherwise, there is no more basis for an argument. Anyway, just to let you know Quran is the only religious book in this world which is compatible with science.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi Albert Einstien is a more intelligent man that the both of us. And he makes an interesting point. He also said "The important thing is not to stop questioning." Which is the point I was trying to make in my last post. In that I think religions can stop people questioning. If they blindly or are brain washed into believing The Quran or Bible.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@khairilazizi We can probably argue about religion till were both old and gray. I am not discounting or saying that there is not a God. As frankly we don't really know. If people BELIEVE in this or that, fine. But that belief is no better or truer than the beliefs of others. Islam is no better or worse than Christianity Hinduism Buddhism etc. They are all merely belief's that many people live there lives by.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy I do respect your view on this religious matter and it is good for not stop questioning. Dont blindly believing in anything that your logic cannot accept. 110% I agreed with you.
In the Quran, God commanded the Prophet to challenge all of creation to create a book of the stature of the Quran:“And if you all are in doubt about what I have revealed to My servant, bring a single chapter like it, and call your witnesses besides God if you are truthful.” (Quran 2:23)
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi I think its time to end our conversation and both agree to disagree, I will never believe that the Quran or Bible are anything more than story books written by men that believing in them is no different to believing in farther xmas
.it seems you will always believe that the Quran is the word of god! As long as neither of us wishes harm to others because there beliefs are different or we disagree with what they do.
I am not right you are not right, its just what we believe!
Thanks
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy Just remember bro..It is again you natural existance that you dont believed in anything devine. Hope you will continue searching....find the truth. Just pray in your heart that "God, if you r there, show me the way to you".
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi I'm a little annoyed by your last comment, It is not against MY existence not to believe in the divine, You also don't need to pray for me. I am not looking nor want a god. Find what TRUTH your version of it? I am happy and have no need for my life to be based upon what a book tells me. I am free to live my life how I choose.
I mean you know harm, I am not telling you not to have your beliefs, only that I have mine and you have yours and we should leave it at that.
BroadleyBoy 1 year ago
@BroadleyBoy watch part 2 he explains this point in it
ahmadov 1 year ago
THIS MAN IS A HOMOSEXUAL
briantheslug 1 year ago
@briantheslug < We can't prove that but it's likely he is a pedophile. Michael Jackson also ran to middle East for same reason. Other reason could be polygamy.
Also one eyed man is always wise man in a society of blinds.
Muslims hate blacks and love white man joining them. And they put him on pedestal.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 You son of bicth...the word "phedo" itself come from you backyard that mean your maniac people do that and try to blame others. Dont bicthing aroud if you dont even know who your own father is.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < A blind man can't see my backyard or read my genealogy !
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 Did it appear to your small pig brain, to study Islam first before you try to put in any comment in here?
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < I guess a pig is pretty safe animal in the Muslim country, so I would let you label me that.
Based on Koran, all non-Muslims either should be converted or killed; so to me being a non-Muslim, proactive task would be to eliminate this threat. Further, we judge a tree from its fruit, "claim of peaceful religion" has no power in the 21st century so come out of 700AD.
Currently, all these "radical" Islamic groups want to restore their Caliphate that ended in 1638, battle of Vienna.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 That where your piggy brain cant catch up..becoz you refer to Koran which written by non Muslim, The real Quran which given by God never said about killing non Muslim usless they attacked us. Logicly, there wont any Choptic cristian left in Egypt or Jews in Iran if your claim is right. Did you know abt history in Damascus, muslims and cristian pray in the same building, friday for muslims, sunday for cristian and for years they do that.
Your claim is baseless and nonsense.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < The times you are describing was when Muslims were attacking new lands so they let it be peaceful at home.
Try reading history from non-Muslim's perspective. Why you think Hindus fought for 1000yrs with Muslim rulers. These rulers never able to take more than 10% of India. That's why it is not another Iran ! Look at what oldest churches facing in the Turkey today(UT videos).
Fooled me once, shame on you; fooled twice shame on me.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 Do you know in only 23 years, muslims empire bigger than roman empire or persian empire. So, do you really think that muslims cannot take over India within 1000 years?..haha ridiculous idea given by your encestor to make you feel proud..by the way...Muslims didnt just go and attack new land, but it was requested by the citizens when those country ruler ruling with opression.
See doctor when you sick, do not see mechanic, meaning that learn Islam from Muslim not from non Muslim.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < OK teach me, doctor.
Can you start with list of citizens who invited Islam in Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, India, Chechnya, Malaysia, Indonesia, Fiji Islands ?
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999I do not have those list because I am not Islamic scholar to do research on it but I do know several of the invitation letters still available in several Muslims country museum. For Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippine, China,..etc, they convert to Islam because attracted to Indians and Arabs Muslim on the way they conducting their manner and truthful in their business at that time. The truth right now, many people convert to Islam start from hatred then fall in love with Islam.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < People convert for personal reasons to any religion; leaving one for another is a very euphoric experience. Most people suffer from low self-esteem and some resentment toward immediate environment. Conversion allow them to make make some form of positive change.
Is such change necessary in today's world ? NO.
Psychotherapy, yoga, and other personal growth systems create positive change in people's lives. So you are seeing more and more people choosing to be atheists .. cont.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@khairilazizi ... or agnostics/spiritual. Does it make sense ?
Human beings are "pure consciousness." Hate is absence of love. Hate also comes from ignorance and any of the other negative emotions such as : jealousy, greed, arrogance, lust and material attachment.
Any religion that imprison its followers or fresh members is not a true faith of almighty creator. This is why apostasy in Islam is treated as treason, punished by death; still sound like religion? No, it's a cruel cult in disguise.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 People who convert to atheist, agnostic or no religion mostly from Christian background. Why? Becoz they cannot found peace in their soul there. Apostasy is punish by death in Islam is not true, but its punishment is reserved for divine judgment in the Last Day (as per surah2.217). In Islam, there is no compulsion to be a Muslim or stay as a Muslim. We believed in sincerity toward believed in Allah. Hopefully your misunderstood about that cleared.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < Only intelligent and good thinkers become atheist/agnostics. There is conversion just a common sense. Judaism/Christianity/Islam has just too many mistakes in their holy books and these religions are judged by what they accomplished since inception.
Surah2.217 is a mockery of human intelligence, this keep you in a bondage making "no compulsion" a pig-crap. Guilt, shame, fear and alienation are tools of cults to keep the followers on a pablum of more lies. Pl run and get help.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 Good thinkers and inteligent man convert to Islam...only stupid ego man become atheist/agnostics..Do you really believe that your purpose of life here is just to become food for the worms when you die?? the same as other animal such as Pig? and monkey is your close relative? That is the most funny believed ever created by human mind...
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < Why argue with a person who spell intelligent as : "inteligent."
You are underdeveloped "human mind" and I'm talking about "pure consciousness" which is above mind and body. Next, I would be accused of throwing the pearls in front pigs.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999
What do you want to prove by a single spelling mistake ?
Stop acting as a pathetic worthless creature .
you jumped into conclusion because of a single spelling mistake .
1 or 2 spelling mistake is not at all issue, as we can correct it by auto-correction .
in fact whatever you have said , perfectly applies to you .
mycutelittlepandas 1 year ago
@mycutelittlepandas < Auto-correct then. If you are so sloppy here then who knows what else you are neglecting. My words communicates and represent my intelligence.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@Zeno1999 "pure consciousness" above mind and body? What that mean? Are you unconscious when you said that word just happen to exist by itself.
khairilazizi 1 year ago
@khairilazizi < It means you are unconscious ! I'm making you more aware your condition or trying anyways.
I don't need any religion to teach me what I'm; besides a true God is not an angry judge to watch our kowtows. Our actions create our salvation; God created a self sustaining universe and gone to create more, IMO.
Humanity needs to unite and defeat oppression caused by hidden oligarchy.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@khairilazizi Sir, Religions have done good & bad to humanity. It is quite capable to solve most of its problems without the aid of divinity, a concept, falling in the same category as Ghosts, Leprachauns, Pegasus, Phoenix that people believe yet they exist not. Atheism is not a religion, no scripture, just one rule: Rationality. Rabi, Mullah, Pandit, Prest & Unscrupulous Politicians fear Atheism lest Masses become educated denying them easy living at the cost of their people. Enjoy today.
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Ok how does thius lead to Islam????!!!! Use your brain and investigate the life of your prophet. Do you think we will all agree with his lifestyle???? DEFINITELY NOT.
Enigmatik691 1 year ago
You fucking musulmans you alllll gonna burn in the deepest and hottest heklllll muuaaahahahahaaaa!!!!! \m/ \m/ \m/
SHTEFUN09 1 year ago
@SHTEFUN09
i dunno whyu swearing muslim Religion so this is our own Religion and u hve our own Religion so bilieve wht u bileave. respect our Religion. wasteman
rmne12 1 year ago
@rmne12 Your fucking bitch budha or in what shit u believe in is a fake god asholes !! WAKE UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALLAH IS A FUCKING ASSHOLLE BITCH !!!!!!
SHTEFUN09 1 year ago
@SHTEFUN09 ur family r assholle fucking bitchs u lucky i dnt know u if i could kill u mother fucker theirs no point u gna hell soon fucking pussy
rmne12 1 year ago
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Hold the rope of Allah strongly & be not devided. Hazrat Mohammad SAW said "Mun Kunto Maula Fahaza Ali Maula", jis jis ka main maula, uss uss ka Ali Maula.
This Hadith is quoted by most of the Muslim scholars, Barelvi & Wahabis alike. Maulana Maudidi Also quoted in his book "Khilafat aur Malookiyat"
So Please dont get divided & follow what Hazrat Mohammad SAW said. ALI is your Maula & maula of all the muslims, living or dead.
hhariss80 1 year ago
Religions are inherited or accepted emotionally. Both are erroneous paths in the search for truth. Google Doe’s Account.
techbesst 1 year ago
that a lie
redoma2008 1 year ago
Good for you !
YouMustBeKiddingMan 1 year ago
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BACHIRBACHIR100 1 year ago
Ernest Hemingway:
"All thinking men are atheists."
radmadasical 1 year ago 6
@radmadasical "All thinking men are atheists "
correction , all brain-dead men and women are atheist
mycutelittlepandas 1 year ago 15
@mycutelittlepandas was einstein brain dead then?
I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. - Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism; quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2
smskinner1001 1 year ago
@smskinner1001
Eistein was not a atheist. He has only a different belive.
"I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil. My God created laws that take care of that. His universe is not ruled by wishful thinking, but by immutable laws''.
Garium87 1 year ago
@Garium87
I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)
smskinner1001 1 year ago
@smskinner1001
How can cosmic religious feeling be communicated from one person to another, if it can give rise to no definite notion of a God and no theology? In my view, it is the most important function of art and science to awaken this feeling and keep it alive in those who are receptive to it." - Albert Einstein
Garium87 1 year ago
@mycutelittlepandas < It is unhealthy for men and women to have multiple partners. Our body has to adjust to spouse's fluids on DNA level which makes immune system set off alarm creating antibodies.
So all religions allowing polygamy are based on falsehood. True religions are only based on "eternal natural laws" that even creator respects and obeys; practicing such religion is a personal choice. Creator only judge us from our actions that violate natural laws. Atheism is ok too.
Zeno1999 1 year ago
@mycutelittlepandas Well this guy seems pretty braindead to me and yet he has religion? He talks of the true religion - they're all false. Religions retard mankind!
bigguitar22 1 year ago
@mycutelittlepandas
Cool reply dummy.
Tobsy1981 1 year ago
@mycutelittlepandas you are totally right that's why 93% of scientists are atheists huh? cause they are brain dead...
radmadasical 1 year ago
@mycutelittlepandas says the dude who lives his life based on a book and stone tablet that was dropped by some dude sitting on a cloud a millenia ago
religion is horse shit, its teachings are not wrong, but its something we should know and do already as humans, not just cuz some made up guy in the sky tells us to and threatens us with it
poopchestxyz 11 months ago
@mycutelittlepandas "Faith means not wanting to know what is true."
— Friedrich Nietzsche
"Faith is believing what you know ain't so."
— Mark Twain
"Faith is a cop-out. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits."
—Dan Barker
volound 10 months ago
@radmadasical
Nonsense and who da frick hacked me youtube!
EnrJaiZr 1 year ago
@radmadasical
Ernest Hemingway has shot himself.
Maybe you should also follow this example.
Garium87 1 year ago
@radmadasical Thank God I'm a woman.
NoorminAllah 1 year ago
There Is Only One God And That Is Allah, and Muhammad (pbuh) Is His Final Messenger...
MrBOXA01 2 years ago
Thank you brother for sharing this video with us. May Allah give you reward for it. Inshallah.
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suzsiz 2 years ago
SCIENCE IS THE FUTURE! KNEEL!!
constructorful 2 years ago
LOL u "kneel" by yourself, the sane ones amongst humanity will remain standing.
RedSeaCoral 2 years ago
Fuck humanity!! fuck santa and fuck your tooth fairy!! WHERE THE FUCK IS HE?.. COCK SUCKER!!
constructorful 2 years ago
@constructorful
Anyone who gave you a -thumb obviously doesnt like their computer much.
You retards should revere science and technology because without it you would still be sucking puss from your leperous legs in the middleages.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
maybe both of you where given the thumb because you are rude and obnoxious, science is a blessing from God given to man so that he would not be ignorant but inlightened, science is something which every human being understands, however not everyone understands kindness good behaviour and civility, specially athiests minded people which i imagine you are.
RedSeaCoral 2 years ago
@RedSeaCoral
I challenge that assertion. What god? Which God? All i see here is science. Your god is make believe and if you don't think it is I suggest you get electroshock.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
lol thats your problem if the evident is unidentifiable to you, however kindly spare us the rude remarks.
RedSeaCoral 2 years ago
@RedSeaCoral
The only person with a problem is you if you think that there is evidence for god. Go ahead. What is this evidence?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
LOL why dont you watch the video, its all there if you're sincer about knowing the truth as to wether there is a God, seems to me however you're just here to pointlessly argue with people and waste their time. perhaps ur time is meaningless but mine is precious.
RedSeaCoral 2 years ago
@RedSeaCoral
I've heard everything form the telological, ontological, and cosmological argument. I can't take the bible's word for anything because that in of itself is not evidence. I've seen all the evidence you can give but, i'm more interested in what YOU think is good evidence.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
do you want to know what i think? i think ur just wasting time :), LOL just watch the video and if you can find anything that logically goes against what this man is saying then ask. however if you cant then be honest with yourself, except God and dont hide from reality.
thats my last message to you, may Allah guide you to what is best, good bye ^_^
RedSeaCoral 2 years ago 2
@JetpackNinjaDinosaur
it's not science it's creation and creation need a creator which is god !
yassohilary 2 years ago
@yassohilary
You assume it was created though. WHat makes you think that it didnt come about by natural means?
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
What makes you think that "natural means" and "created by God" are mutually exclusive, i.e. are independent?
paradoxify 2 years ago
God by definition is supernatural because nature is subject to the laws of nature, and god can't be subject to the laws of nature and be omnipotent.
Nice try though.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
Non Sequitar,
God by definition is not subject to anything, neither is God subject to nature or the supernatural. However, it is well established that both the Natural and Super Natural (ignroing definitions for the time being) are subject to God.
paradoxify 2 years ago
First off, learn how to spell sequitur, second it isn't a non sequitur.
Premise 1: Nature is subject to physical laws.
Premise 2: God by definition is omnipotent and is not bound by the laws of nature
Premise 3: That which is not bound by the laws of nature is supernatural.
Conclusion: God is supernatural.
Show me where you think I'm wrong in my reasoning.
JetpackNinjaDinosaur 2 years ago
You are on a completely different platform to me. Even though God is supernatural, God is able to control both natural and supernatural phenominon.
About "time"
When you call "time" a duration, how sure of it are you when you look at things in the bigger picture? From which perspective are you looking at it? From your own or from a more advanced state? In the third dimension it may look like a change of state of events happening, however, its far more concrete if you analyse it from a 4D pow.
paradoxify 2 years ago
I can already tell this is going to get annoying.
You originally claimed "created by god" and "natural means" are not necessarily mutually exclusive and i showed you how that is wrong. Do you admit god creating the universe is a supernatural occurrence or not? If so we can move on to focusing on time.
Time is a measurement, like meters or inches. I'm looking at this whole thing from the perspective of logic and reason.
Are you going to address my argument or keep changing the subject?