if you look on the tender of the s160 you see a blue thing. at the time she had air brake problems caused bythe air pump manlunctioning. the blue thing is a compressor. as posted below the shunter was there for safety reasons.i know this as a fact as i was there as she was unloaded back on cvr soil at cheddleton.so not only was she pulling the load but pulling the shunter too.
I could imagine this engine doing the job without the switcher: Level track and 4-coupled, it simply depends on the axle load, I guess. If it's about 20 tons (metric) it should work.
The German class 44 (5-coupled, 19.3 tons (metric) axleload) was able to pull a 2.100-t-train with 60 km/h on level track, so why shouldn't this one be able to the same load just a bit slower, in case it's able to start it?
It's neat seeing an American-built locomotive working its tail off across the big pond. The S160 class was actually one of the smaller classes of locomotives used in America, and they were designed for export to countries with closer clearances. However, the 9 class 2-10-0 Black prince does show this little devil up in the other train. I have posted a video response of a footplate (Cab) ride I had on a sister to the S160 USA in Tennessee, USA.
@TrainMan404 I work at TVRM where the sister to this engine is. #610 is classified as an S160A built in 1952 by Baldwin Lima Hamilton for the US Army.
well each wagon weighs in at 102 tons, the switcher was 104 tones so a quick bit of maths say it was 1838 tones. As the engine was slowing down it was at the "speed bump". where it suddenly gets steeper. So the crew asked for assistance.
For info, the official train weight was 2100 tonnes gross and the switcher at the rear was not assisting at any time, it was simply there to provide air-braking to stop the train (neither loco has provision for air train brakes)
I thought I heard someone say it was more than the 1000 tonnes stated.
Afraid to say though that as the footage was beibng taken by the camera the switcher did assist as I was watching it, you should have seen the clag from it.. Listen at 1:57 and you will here the couplings loosen then 5197 speed up from then.
Later that afternoon when returning from the quarry tour, it seemed they were splitting the train and removing some of the wagons too.
if you look on the tender of the s160 you see a blue thing. at the time she had air brake problems caused bythe air pump manlunctioning. the blue thing is a compressor. as posted below the shunter was there for safety reasons.i know this as a fact as i was there as she was unloaded back on cvr soil at cheddleton.so not only was she pulling the load but pulling the shunter too.
housedadtrains 1 year ago
Haha two american locomotives in one train
trainmanlars 2 years ago
I could imagine this engine doing the job without the switcher: Level track and 4-coupled, it simply depends on the axle load, I guess. If it's about 20 tons (metric) it should work.
The German class 44 (5-coupled, 19.3 tons (metric) axleload) was able to pull a 2.100-t-train with 60 km/h on level track, so why shouldn't this one be able to the same load just a bit slower, in case it's able to start it?
quert2 3 years ago
Great sounds!
ADMIRALSCORNER 3 years ago
It's neat seeing an American-built locomotive working its tail off across the big pond. The S160 class was actually one of the smaller classes of locomotives used in America, and they were designed for export to countries with closer clearances. However, the 9 class 2-10-0 Black prince does show this little devil up in the other train. I have posted a video response of a footplate (Cab) ride I had on a sister to the S160 USA in Tennessee, USA.
TrainMan404 3 years ago
Thank you for that information, and Cheers for the video response too
jiffyman 3 years ago
@TrainMan404 I work at TVRM where the sister to this engine is. #610 is classified as an S160A built in 1952 by Baldwin Lima Hamilton for the US Army.
TVRM610 1 year ago
Phwar!
crownandx 3 years ago
the s160 is air braked i can tell you for a fact
lankylegsrob 3 years ago
well each wagon weighs in at 102 tons, the switcher was 104 tones so a quick bit of maths say it was 1838 tones. As the engine was slowing down it was at the "speed bump". where it suddenly gets steeper. So the crew asked for assistance.
steamyalex 3 years ago
For info, the official train weight was 2100 tonnes gross and the switcher at the rear was not assisting at any time, it was simply there to provide air-braking to stop the train (neither loco has provision for air train brakes)
nodnims 3 years ago
I thought I heard someone say it was more than the 1000 tonnes stated.
Afraid to say though that as the footage was beibng taken by the camera the switcher did assist as I was watching it, you should have seen the clag from it.. Listen at 1:57 and you will here the couplings loosen then 5197 speed up from then.
Later that afternoon when returning from the quarry tour, it seemed they were splitting the train and removing some of the wagons too.
jiffyman 3 years ago
nodnims the switcher did power up on this run as the S160 was going to stall and as stated the couplings did compress from the rear.
The 9F managed this load solo but thats what it was built for.
Maybe next time we can have a GWR 2-8-0 take on this challenge although youll have to find welsh coal for maximum power.
60037 3 years ago
Every time i've driver 5197 it had air brakes!
thunderstruck154 2 years ago
Yep, I did'nt have to pay at all, due to being a volunteer at the ESR
Firrboxfryup 3 years ago
Personally, I say that was cheating!!
Good way of doing it though!! Lol!!
jiffyman 3 years ago
Nice one mate, well done!
I must have seen you there some where!
:)
Firrboxfryup 3 years ago
I was floating around all over the place!
Thoroughly enjoyable day out i must say, and a bargain price with the shuttle too!!!
jiffyman 3 years ago
Well done Glen! You captured some of the most intense hard work from the S160, looked quite daring!
GreatWestern175 3 years ago
Certainly was working very hard on its own!
jiffyman 3 years ago