Goree Island Slave Fort

[Ps1ko85]

I didn't spend time with him there. I was probably at school but I think it's a lost cause to try to prove you otherwise. It's a place of history and to educate people about what was going there several years ago. Don't see the reason why you would say that it's all a farce. Built by the Dutch in 1776. I don't understand your problem with La Maison des Esclaves. How can you possibly go to someone country and say that their history is a farce? That's just crazy. What's the trap?

[heygeli]

yes, thank you wellbran. i mean seriously whoever edited this, what happy drug were you on for you to even feel in the mood to hear music like this while watching this video

[WELLBRAN]

I appreciate the place and what it represents. but for the life of me why did you pick the music to go with this...far too jolly, maybe something more poignant?

[Dakarah777]

Nice music. Balances the reality of this place. I was there about 6 years ago, not as a tourist, but a descendant. Actually felt it. Changed me forever. All praise to Yahweh!

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Dakarah777 The "Slave House" and all it legends are false, creatively created to play on the emotions of Black Americans and take their money.

After "Roots" many began to travel to the Gambia, to get to Gambia you must first land in Dakar, Senegal.......the so called ''door of no return" is a joke, the water is too shallow and too rocky for even a rowboat.....I was there a few years ago and it is TOURIST TRAP. Slavery did happen but Goree had nothing to do with it.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy Man You are so ignorant. False Legends? are you serious? Get your facts straight. If you don't believe it. That's your personal choice but don't say dumb stuff.

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 Have you been to Goree Island? I have and spent a week in that pathetic tourist trap, Slavery was NOT a false legend, Goree Island is a farce. There is NO historical evidence to back this up, none! and the waters outside the so called door of no return is impossible for even a rowboat to go there, its too rocky.

YOU are the ignorant one.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy I've been to Goree Island brother. What historical evidence do you have to prove that it is a farce. Let me ask you something, if it was a farce why would The Pope stand at the door of no return and ask Africa for forgiveness? Google it if you want "1992 the Pope at the door of no return" I could understand that it's rocky and the water shallow like you said. Stop this madness please lol

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 What historic evidence is there that it was "the slave island"? the Pope went there because it was symbolic and for a photo op. There is NO evidence of any slaves being shipped out of Goree and the so called "Maison des escraves" also has NO evidence to verify it. Goree is a farce. I guess you also believe thatthe Africans had no part in the slave trade.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy See I don't think like you do. You see conspiracy everywhere I guess. I do believe that Africans had a part in the slave trade. So let me get this straight, the Pope woke and was like hey let me go to that supposedly slave island which is a bunch of crap, take a picture and say a bunch of nonsense since i don't have better things to do in my life. Get another excuse man. You are ridiculous. Did you ask how the boats were picking up the slaves from the door? If, not you shouldve

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 Whay conspiracy? The pope went there as a symbolic gesture. Goree Island has NO record of ever having been a slave fort, go there and study the the area....Goree was an invention of the Senegalese to divert people who landed in Dakar enroute to Gambia. Slavery did indeed exist, Goree Island was a late 20th century invention. Its a pathetic tourist trap, the moment you get off the chaloupe, they start annoying you, and the islanders are not very nice.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy I see your problem now. Your problem is the annoyance of the islanders, asking for money and not being very nice. I can agree with you on that, not to say that it happened to me but that's people. Some are good and some are bad. I wished you had a better experience there. Next time I go, may be you'll tag along. As far as the history, I can't agree with you.

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 Let me clarify that I am NOT negating the history of slavery in West Africa, that did happen.

The slaved trade in Senegal was centered in the city of Saint-Louis and no doubt were taken down to Dakar and unto the Atlantic...For all practical reason Goree couldn't have been the place it claims to be and most historians doubt its authenticity. Please look it up.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy I can understand that they doubt it because when you think about it. What happened there might not been written. It's due to the fact that they population couldn't read or write and I don't think that I would give them records of the trades and crimes committed there. I know I wouldn't do that. Historians doubt is and I don't think they will ever come up with a proof. Until then, could you give it the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise?

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 The place is not practical for holding thousands of people to be transported, there was not even a source of fresh drinking water...and the only place suitable for a large vessel would've been where the jetty is today and at most it can hold one or two. The cold and harsh reality is that that it was not seen as a crime by anyone, wetehr African or European, it was widely and socially acceptable, it was a lucrative industry.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy Ameen brother :)

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 Where it happened is not really important at this point, we do know that in happened and we owe it to the sacred memory and to the human dignity of those who were captured, chained and sold like mere objects to remember them and their plight. Ameen : )

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 Believe me they were not illiterates loading people on to ships...they kept very meticulous records of their ''cargo" just like any other cargo going across the Atlantic, maybe the enslaved humans didn't have a passport or ID card but hoe many were onboard was registered, remember this was all business. And that is what makes it evn more henious, they were so morally devoid and the people they traded were completely dehumanized and stripped of their identity and dignity.

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 Goree makes no difference really, wether it was there or not ...the fact remains SLAVERY still was practiced in the immediate area....and it was an atrocity.

[Ps1ko85]

@NativeNewYorkGuy Excuse the typos.

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

@Ps1ko85 So tell me did you spend time on Goree with the Pope? I'm not coming up with excuses, I'm pointing out the facts and the fact is that Goree is a farce and a pathetic tourist trap. I have never been happeir to leave any place as I did Goree Island.

[eddierob]

@Dakarah777 how did going to the slave fort transform you?

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