Im just not at all attracted to fem gay men though. Also I cant find them attractive. I'll still respect everyone as a person etc but there is no attraction.
You made SUCH a good point, especially in the first two or three minutes of the video. This problem is predominate with straight girls, too. I have so many friends who just "prefer" white guys without ever thinking about WHY that is.
I once though that effeminate gays made me feel uncomfortable. Then I realized it was just sexually suggestive "wave my genitals in your face" people that I find offensive. Hyperbole of course, but you get the idea. Not a lot of exposure, but after being around a larger sample of gays I realized I'm not uncomfortable around them. I don't think people should belittle gays or shun them. I do have different views about it's morality, but no.. should be treated with dignity and respect and love.
stra8 actin gays i just liers they annoy me,i dont judge ,but guys who dont like femme gays are idiots and fake an negative,i luv every 1 thats why life can be exciting:)
I agree with you about the closeted ones but there are plenty of us out here that have to deal with the same stereotypes or the ones from the opposite, like i said to somebody else-- a guy finds out and his first thought is that your gonna come at him-- Im not on that dl stuff, dont be fooled the problem( there's i mean) is in the difference in sexual preference not often the character of masculinity.
That alignment, identification or whatever you want to call it doesnt always say that someone has a problem with femininity, furthermore you going at this the way shows you aligning the same assumption that gay means bad that your arguing against. straight acting and fem should be looked at like two extremes or equated to right and wrong. Some personalities clash and some dont, simple as that.
So you if you are "straight- acting" as you said because its your natural personality, your background, etc-- then your referred to by the fems as straight acting, assumed to be dl or closeted- I understand your point but I think that you are looking at things from a very narrowminded place. the term "Straight- acting" which is what you seem to really have a problem with doesn't not really say anything bad about femininity-- its just an alignment with the stereotypical "straight man" .
I wish masculine gays had more representation in the media and that's all I'm going to say about that. But I'm definitely NOT hating on anyone in the gay community or anyone at all, period. Although some people can be REALLY annoying with their whole over the top bullshit..
@TheTvstuff I agree- no offense meant but if its taken that's on you-- guys that are identified by others as straight- acting, regular acting- have just as many stereotypes as the fems-- the whole DL your going to sneak and freak me ...
you have most things im looking for in a man! you are black, i love the bum chin, and the gap between you front teeth! damn im totally in love with you!
Very well-said. I too, believe people should BE (NOT ACT) the person which they NATURALLY are. The expected "social norm", of HAVING to BE or "act" either masculine or feminine be damned! Always strive to BE YOURSELF as much (and as SAFELY) as possible. It is the BEST person you can be!
I like you; you think like I do. I agree with you on your points, given the fact I am an openly gay American Asian Indian man who has been endured racism and heterosexism/homophobia. I encourage you to check out my YouTube page and look me up on Facebook. If you opt to add me, I will approve your request by all means. I've a feeling that we will make optimum friends indeed. On a conclusive note, ALL gay men--even the most naturally and unnaturally masculine acting gay men--have feminine sides.
I would be careful using the term "straight acting" because that usually imposes certain gender expressions on the gay male identity. "masculine" is the preferred word.
some guys just arent attracted to fem guys. im not really. we do need in the media more variety of masc and fem guys. I dont consder myself masc or fem just me, I got my moments when i act fem but im usually more towards the masc side just depends. if u think the guys cute, and has a good personality go for it dont hold urself back because hes a lil more on the fem side i think is what hes tryna say. dont live ur life only looking for a certain 'type' of guy
I've never called myself 'str8 acting', because I'm not sure how a 'str8' is supposed to act. Apart from maybe loving boobies and letting everyone know it, or going crazy for football, or going out in a gang to get stinking drunk, or driving around with friends in a pick-up to beat up gays...Or am I being stereotypical? ;-)
We should all be proud of who we are, and not try to impress others with false alter-egos. True friends and lovers can only ever love the real you, not a role you may play.
Maybe you could explain this to me: I've never understood effeminate gays because GAY means that a man is attracted to another MAN. Not a WOMAN or a man who ACTS LIKE A WOMAN. There are tons of masculine gays who are unattracted to effeminate gays because their aura is too reminiscent of a woman. So do effeminate gays have effeminate personalities because of whom they were raised by? Is it an act or are they actually trying to emulate a woman because in that case why not be transgendered?
I don't much care about a person's masculine or feminine mannerisms. One thing that I get a lot is that apparently I'm effeminate... yet... not effeminate enough, which I find quite hilarious. BUT I hate that my attraction to more effeminate than masculine males is frowned upon, as if I was born to play the role of "girl"... and... suddenly I'm labelled a lesbian. And from my experience with "straight-acting" gays... is that it is usually exactly what it suggests... an act.
You are right there is a gay culture. But why do I have to be part of it? I don't do the gay scene because that's not me. I'm bi so if I want a girl I find 1, but when I want a guy I want a "Guy". Fem guy irritate me in public because they always make a spectical everywhere. Therefore I don't have fem friends. Fem can be themselves, just not around me.
To me the thing that makes a man attractive is the masculinity otherwise I would just date a woman. A little bit of fem is ok, but some go wayyy overboard.
Now there are different degree's of feminity but for the most part if you go on gay chat sites extremely over the top fem gay guys run those places. They are usually mean and very dramatic. Making a show wherever they go. The problem with that is most men by nature don't want a whole bunch of attention drawn to them just walking to the store or going to a movie. I prefer to hang and relax with my friends or the person i'm with, I don't wanna turn the sidewalk into a catwalk.
You know what pisses me off, the fact that when I first came out because I was masculine people in the gay community were callin me confused. I AM A MAN. MEN HAVE TESTOSTERONE. That's what makes me masculine. No matter my sexuality I act like a man, because I am a man. I am so tired of fems complaining that masc gay men are mean to them. That's simply untrue in my experIence, it's been the other way around. I have tried to date fems and it didn't work because they were more fem than ANY WOMAN.
i remember my roommate was complaining to his bf at the time about effeminate gay guys and his boyfriend said "well we all suck d*ck at the end of the day, so whats the problem"
great video! I've also tried to get people to think about why they are attracted to something. They often think its a gut reaction, or "i just do" when there is often a lot of psychology behind something
Ok, I'm just asking because I don't know. You are mildly effeminate. But Y do gay men act like women? I don't get it. All the gay men I met (a lot) were molested or raised by women which leads me to believe that their sexuality was distorted somehow. Does gay mean you are more woman than man? I just don't understand the acting like a woman part. Truth be told, it's not REALLY feminine. I never met a gay man that REALLY acted like a woman. It's always like bad, over impersonation of a woman.
@tokyobrwn Err... Do you mean the guy in this video is fem? Have you heard his voice? Turned up the volume? Men who are more feminine is often because they identified to a woman model really young (wrether there was a man present or not around them). It doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation, as a matter of fact. Maybe you aren't meeting gay men in the right environments if they all share the same life patterns, because frankly, it's really not my experience.
Wow dude... You talk so much sense. I totally agree with what you say and I think everyone has a right to act exactly how they want to without discrimination. I don't think of myself as straight acting or totally effeminate, i'm just Jason and depending upon the situation i'm in, can act one way or another. I think we all, at some point, have fallen foul of slipping into conformity due to the amount of pressure we're under by just being different.
You see i've found so much of acceptance within my circle of straight friends, i havent really thought about meeting people from the 'other' community, but i wouldnt mind... i just dont see myself in that way.... to compare and explain, i asked out a friend, who was a bit disturbed, he said he was fine with my sexuality, but he was straight... and will always be that way... fine.. totally honest and acceptable....I may be gay/bisexual whatever, but i may not conform to the queer culture...
I agree with your points, but if i say personally, i do not believe in commmunities in terms of one's sexuality... i think straight and gay people can live under the same umbrella in harmony, but ALOT of Gap-bridging is required on both sides... I recently came out to my friends as Gay/Bisexual (im still not sure), and they were surprised, a bit weirded out, but they were accepting..! and that was my turn to be surprised....
Sick of our shit? Fine. We're sick of yours, and all who're as narrowminded as you are.
I love how some homos moralize over how other homos should "be themselves" and not conform to society, and in the same sentence they say we suck because,ie we don't conform to the gay community.
Fuck the gay community.
I'm out to friends, family, and at work - and I get more respect for not being part of that dysfuntional fem club. Wallow in your own self-pity and misery, queens.
im glad that u tackled this topic bc im a fem gay and i get pissed off everytime someone puts me or my actions or my likes down...for example, i carry a handbag bc i hate my pockets having stuff in it as well as i like bags...other gay guys have put me down and even made comments to my husband stating that they did not know why i would do that to our community and act the way i do...it ticks me off...i think we are who we are and if i am fem or masculine or neutral...who the fuck cares
people should be nice and realize that we are all human and like us for our personality and the and how nice we are. hating other people does not make us better and i hate when someone puts another human being down for any reason...we should help each other out...
Hey. Do you write yourself notes before you make a video? Because of course you make a version of this video and it sounds way more eloquent =p I need to start doing what you're doing.
@tosheatower lol, before I make a video like this I usually pace around for a little while thinking of what I want to say. I probably should write some notes down, so my videos would be on point, but right now nah no notes. mental notes for sure though. :) and your videos are amazing and natural, don't worry about them, your voice comes through just fine
@xypowerpop I think you are absolutely amazin. I love how well spoken you are. There is a white gay guy who thinks that all black people are mean, uneducated, and on welfare. I told him to start watching your videos because you are a good example that we arent all like that. Thats why i admire you. So THANK YOU XYPOWERPOP!=)
HE'S ALSO A GAY FEM. SOMETIMES, I WARN HIM THAT WHENEVER WE DECIDE TO JOKE AROUND AND TO LAUGH AND TO HAVE A REALLY GREAT TIME AND HE DECIDES TO SMACK ME FOR NO APPARENT GOOD REASONING TO. LIKE, THEY DO IT FOR FUN & IT BOTHERS THE SHIT OUT OF ME AT TIMES. YOU WOULDN'T SEE ME BE GAY AND THEN FEEL THAT IT IS MY RIGHT TO JUST START SMACKING OTHER PEOPLE RANDOMLY FOR THEIR OWN SENSE OF HUMOR. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I DISLIKE ABOUT THEM; THE RANDOM-UNNECESSARY SMACKING THAT'S NOT NECESSARY AT ALL.
I FREAKING LOVE THIS VIDEO AND YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!! BUT, ITS NOT LIKE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MALE GAY FEMININES, ITS JUST THAT AT FIRST, SINCE I AM A STRAIGHT MAN, THAT IT WOULD ONLY TAKE ME A FEW SECONDS OR MINUTES TO PROCESS THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A GAY FEMININE. I JUST DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY MAY CROSS THE LINE AND FEEL THAT IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO HIT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL AS THEIR TYPE OF MOTTO. I KNOW A GAY PERSON WHO IS A REALLY GOOD FRIEND OF MINES AND...
wow. You definitely said somethings that needed to be said. This is something that I've thought about on several occasions. Me and my fiend where talking about gay people and he says he is very accepting of gays but doesn't like it when he sees un-modest sex craze gay people. I got angry but I calmly told him I also don't enjoy that in public but it's not gay people, It's un-modest PEOPLE. I told him that people who are crass and un-modest in public are both straight and gay. He finally got it.
wow i have so much to say about your rant, but frankly dont have the will to go thru it all, so heres my 2 cent short version: I agree that ppl should never act diff than themselves for any reason. I hate & wont associate with gays who put down any other gays, we are a small minority, we need to stick together as a community! Ive lived in large cities, i see waaay less gay on gay hate there, than lets say 'the dirty south'. much of this (other) gay hater shit comes from unresolved self hate
So I get into a vlogging mood and decide to look up other vloggers for inspiration and lo and behold: A superlong rant video from you. YES. I must say I agree with you mostly. In some cases I think the term str8 acting is divisive however i think sum gay men who prefer masculinity over femininity in a partner receive backlash for just knowing wat they like. As a preference is fine, given its not based off of a homophobic precedent or misconception. I think i'm gonna go record a vid now. cya!
This video is HOSTILE and HATEFUL under the guise that it is promoting awareness of discrimination against feminine gay men. In an effort to condemn the labeling "straight acting", poppy ATTACKS gay men who use this descriptor. If he were trying to be proactive, he would offer solutions and strategies to promote acceptance and tolerance. Instead, he is ANGRY, BITTER and uses terms like, "screw straight acting", "I hate", "fucking bullshit", "I'm sick of your shit" which creates divisiveness.
@galacticmode keep in mind though, I used "trolling" in verb form both times (which isn't apart of the gay lexicon) , not noun form. Alright, really now I'm done, haha
@xypowerpop I used "troll", the derivative for trolling as a noun and which is used as a figurative of speech in gay lingo. Face it, you need to be proactiv and you're not educated enough to continue.
Darien, Darien, Darien. I really dig how you formulated your opinion & then communicated it here. This is why I love you & respect you so much. ~Calvin
I'm being myself, lot of people think I'm straight, and I do like str8 acting men or masculine men. However, I also have some attraction toward feminine men as long there not annoying, high maintains, and too materialistic, same thing as str8 acting men.
I think you should watch the Documentary about masculine gay men,'The Butch Factor', just YouTube it for the trailer.
@aznguymetal I've watched that documentary a number of times :) I think the label of "straight acting" is damaging though. And I hate when people say "I don't have a problem with feminine guys, as long as they aren't annoying or loud or rude" - doesn't this standard apply to everyone? Aren't all loud/rude people annoying? That statement wasn't directed towards you at all, but others who have said similar things that I find interesting.
@xypowerpop Poppy, you continue to whine. The utterance of your grievance is that you don't like masculine men because they highlight what is mostly desired in the gay community. Why don't you apply the same standard that effeminate gay men, drag queens, transsexuals, and gay pride parades are harmful to the gay community.
In gay lingo or vernacular, STR8 ACTING = MASCULINE. It is a description of those who are, appear, pass, behave like the socially established norms and roles in our culture often associated with MEN. In the gay community, masculine guys are more attractive and desirable. A myth about homosexuals is that they want to be women. The construct of STR8 ACTING is a rejection of that myth because most gay men like being men who are interested in men and don't want any expression of femininity.
@galacticmode Straight acting is still a damaging term because it places more worth in heterosexuality than homosexuality, and it's a total fucking oxymoron, lol. Also, I can understand a group of people attracted to males being, on average, attracted to the cultural and social constructions of the gender identity associated with males, but when people see any other form of gender expression as bad is when it's a problem.
@xypowerpop Straight acting = masculine. Masculinity is preferred in the gay community. Why are you attacking masculine gay men because they identify with a term that describes their gender role? An oxymoron is a statement that combines contradictory words. Straight acting is linked to masculinity, not having sex with women. Gay males who describe themselves as straight acting aren't saying they are straight.
@galacticmode The term doesn't describe a gender role, it describes a sexual orientation ( straight ). Gender roles/expressions are different. The way you have gender expression and sexual orientation linked in your mind seems so warped to me.
@xypowerpop Sex (male, female) is defined by biology. Gender (masculine, feminine, androgynous, indifferent) is socially defined. There are often correlations between sex and gender. Masculine is a gender role, "Straight-acting" is a term within gay lingo/vernacular that means masculine. Straight describes a sexual orientation. You're parsing straight and acting. It is all about syntax and context, poppy.
@xypowerpop Poppy, you are just wrong when it comes to the intricacies of this issue. The problem is your using opinion, not research to support your views. When you arbitrarily used 80% as a statistic in this video without any research, I knew you were willing to make up anything to support your argument. You can learn about these topics and issues in undergraduate level communication, debate, and psychology courses. Aren't you just a freshman?
Ok so what I hate more than homophobes are these misguided guys who think if they say "I'm str8 acting" that people will respect them more. Or they won't get called names . OMG Darien that doush I dated sits next to me in my French class and he totally ignores me. I have to tell him off write or do I just leave it.
I couldn't agree with you more! I wrote about this topic recently on my blog. I hate when people say "str8 acting!" No one is straight acting, you are either masculine or feminine. You forget to touch on transphobia, because that is also predominant within the gay community.
@hewi868 I've been meaning to talk about a variety of trans issues in a video soon, I just want to make sure I approach it right because they're an entirely different obstacle to tackle
To the st8 acting point that you made xpowerpop, i believe "straight acting men", i prefer to use "men that can pass" or "passing gay men" (alluding to being able to pass for white in the black community) that PRIDE themselves on being straight acting and being able to "pass" do detriment to the community because they serve as "insiders" to the un-knowledgeable masses to put down and further marginalize their community to raise their own status and build their own self esteem.
truth! Embrace differences and variations within our community! The problem with homophobia within the gay community is that men are expected to "perform" gender a certain way and it leaves very little room for a self definition and proper self expression. We ARE ALL A MIX OF FEMININE AND MASCULINE ! We have a time when we perform femininity and a time when perform masculinity and this goes for BOTH straight and gay people.
@MrGuylaugher You speak the truth :) That whole idea of "passing" is an interesting concept you brought up, because it's pretty big in the trans community as well.
Tried to post a video response to this, but couldn't figure out how, so I just posted one on this topic on my page. Anyway, great video. I completely agree.
I understand your frustration %100 Darien, yet I dont think you should get to the point of generalizing and saying "fuck straight acting". I personally have tons of femboy friends, yet it turns out surprising for others to think Im gay myself because (I dont wanna say I act straight) I dont fall into that category of femboys, and that is just my nature. One dont have to support a cause he does not fall into, and as long as he dont diss about it I see nothing wrong with it. I know which types of
@AngelTeranMusic I think the term "straight acting" should be thrown away all together. Because unless you are pretending to have sex with women you are not straight acting. Not all straight men are masculine just like all gay men aren't effeminate, these are just stereotypical generalizations. In that vain, identifying as straight acting could suggest some level internalized homophobia. "I'm gay but im not gay acting!"
@ShawnNotFiction A convention of acting is that an actor will play roles that are not genuine to the actor. For example, House ACTS like a doctor on TV but has no medical license or credentials to perform the medical procedures he ACTS on television. Similarly, a gay man doesn't have to have sex with a woman to ACT like a straight man. In the field of acting, perception is reality.
@galacticmode And how does a STRAIGHT man ACT exactly? As I have stated before its is an extreme generalization to assume that just because someone is straight, they are Masculine. The definition of a Straight man, in today's culture is a man who sleeps with women. That is the only stipulation! Any sort of gender expression that you tag on to that is because of your own basis.
@ShawnNotFiction I will address the first part of your comment as a separate response. Your definition of a straight man, "a man who sleeps with women", is flawed. There are gay men who sleep with women. There are married men sleeping with their wives and having sex with men. There are gay men (in the closet) sleeping with women who may never sleep with a man, but they are gay. They may be afraid or paranoid to express or experience their homosexuality. There are plenty of variables.
@galacticmode That strays away from the original topic which is the actual definition of straight acting and the misconceptions it implies. I may call myself trust worthy but actually be a conniving cheat. That variable does not change the original definition of what Trust worthy means. The over all point i am trying to make is that masculine gay men who i dentifiy as "straight acting" are implying that all straight men are masculine which is not the case, and that assumption can cause an....
@ShawnNotFiction Unhealthy escapism from being associated with the gay community. "I might be gay but I'm a straight acting, and not one of those gays." Which reinforces negative views on effeminate or "Gay Acting" men. So just by identifying as masculine gay man instead of Straight Acting, can help to eliminate some of hate, especially within our own community.
@ShawnNotFiction Why do you presume a gay man who identifies as straight acting is disassociating himself with the gay community. You are creating hostility and an unhealthy divisive context to this issue. Do you know that some gay men think, "I am gay, I'm masculine, and I am proud to be gay".
@ShawnNotFiction It's called ACTING (not being), which means it may not be real. Not many gay men are comfortable being known as a gay, thus there is a portrayal of acting straight. Many gay men ACT straight for privacy and because of the consequences (discrimination, violence, etc). The notion that straight acting is a misconception when gay men apply it to their gender role is absurd. There are gay men who are masculine and others who are feminine. It is that simple.
@galacticmode Your not getting it. Straight is not an appropriate gender role (Psychologically correct term being gender expression). It IS a sexual orientation (heterosexuality). You are right in saying that "There are gay men who are masculine and others who are feminine. It is that simple." And yet you don't seem to understand what you, yourself, have said. If a gay man wants to pretend to be straight for protection from society, he is CLOSETED NOT STRAIGHT ACTING.
@galacticmode And now you are saying that men who identify as straight acting are afraid of the consequences of being gay. That sir is ABSURD. It is one thing to have privacy of one's personal life its another entirely to be closeted. I'm pretty sure i could argue this with you for months and not get anywhere, so consider this my agree to disagree on the validity and consequences of the TERM straight acting.
@galacticmode in reference to the House example, yes he acts like a doctor. A doctor is one with a medical licence. He also plays a character that is rude and obnoxious. Using your logic, to be
"DOCTOR ACTING" one would be rude and obnoxious. The two are not related even though he happens to be both.
I just realized that this video is a response to another, "Looking For Str8 Acting Bottom Bitches!!!". I told you people, Poppy is a PERVERT using pseudo intellectual arguments as a smokescreen for his contempt for gay men who won't @#$% him.
@galacticmode I added the video as a response as an afterthought, i was looking for a good video my argument could add to. I'm in a great relationship and I'm not too worried about whether or not random gays want to bang me. :P You should know the person you're talking about before you mouth off about them, because you only make yourself look rude. Your comments won't be removed, though, I lol'ed too hard for me to want them gone. And I want others to be exposed to dissenting opinion. ;-)
@xypowerpop Thanks for allowing my comments to remain posted as they are contradictory to most others. And as an afterthought, I subscribed to your channel over a year ago after viewing a video of you eating a burger. I have seen some of your videos and only on two occasions, this video and your racism one, have I felt the need to debate your or others viewpoints.
@galacticmode it's "screw str8 acting" as a term, or an idealistic view. Not that all straight acting people are bad. If a GAY person were to say "SCREW GAY ACTING" they would in turn only be condemning themselves. You're not straight acting unless you pretend to have sex with someone of the same gender and your not gay acting unless you pretend to have sex with someone of the opposite gender. Because that is all straight and gay actually means. (dictionaries are your friends)
@ShawnNotFiction My point was about the hypocrisy issue. But lets go with the acting. A convention of acting is that an actor will play roles that are not genuine to the actor. For example, House ACTS like a doctor on TV but has no medical license or credentials to perform the medical procedures he ACTS on television. Similarly, a gay man doesn't have to have sex with a woman to ACT like a straight man. In the field of acting, perception is reality. You really need to educate yourself.
In this video, he decides to attack gay men who have preferences for masculine gay men and call them hypocrites. He uses gay pornography as a factor for how gay men develop attraction. That is another sexual implication. Xypops presentation is perverse and weak. Basically, he's not having sex from guys he desires, and this video is evidence of his anger. MY OPINION.
MY OPINION is that xypowerpop is exploiting this issue for a self-serviant purpose. In his racism video, he only mentions social racial discrimination, not employment, professional, or academic opportunities. That sounds like code for, he's not having sex. Therefore, he decides to offer pseudointellectual arguments and call anyone who doesn't agree with him a racist.
@galacticmode Your OPINION is based on quite a few assumptions about him. His other video was about racism IN THE GAY COMMUNITY. What would that have to do employment, professional, or academic issues. Its easy to sit behind a blank profile and rattle on about this person is this and this person wants that. What this looks like is an obvious case of projection your own insecurities on to others.
@ShawnNotFiction THE GAY COMMUNITY encompasses a broad field yet he only talked about social discrimination like at a club or on gay sites. I think discrimination IN THE GAY COMMUNITY has far more consequences in areas of professional, political, academic, etc. I deemed the argument petty and rejected the premise that racial preferences are racist. In the social arena such as gay clubs and sites, who cares if someone doesn't like your race. In the workforce, discrimination is harmful.
@galacticmode Discrimination is always harmful whether it be in the work force or at the grocery store. Any sort of discrimination in the Gay Community creates separations, and makes us weaker as a group as well makes us seem hypocritical when pledging for tolerance and acceptance when we can't even accept our own differences. Besides you cant blame him for not discussing topics such professional discrimination when he has yet to experiences the professional world.
@galacticmode From what I can see, you surround yourself with sexual photos, videos and probably have random non emotional sex all the time. Most likely to fill a void of affection you never got from your parents. No wonder the only conclusion you could draw from someone having issues with this kind of hate would be sexual frustration.
@ShawnNotFiction I find muscular men attractive. This is YouTube, not a porn site. I'm not sure why you're attributing that to a developmental issue. The comment I made about poppy and sexual frustration is because his commentary was based on some gay men who reject him because of race. Rejection = NO SEX. It is like making a argument about the high price of fuel. The real utterance is, we need more efficient types of energy and better modes of transportation. DO YOU GET IT? LOL
@galacticmode . The reason behind your hate for more effeminate men would most likely because when you were younger people, probably your parents, would pick on you for being a little "girly" yourself, like your voice was a little high? So you did everything you could to change, like excessive exercising, actively deepening your voice, and getting upset at yourself whenever you do anything that could be construed as effeminate.
@ShawnNotFiction I DO NOT HATE EFFEMINATE MEN. I do not find it attractive. I'm not sure why you're using developmental processes to analyze my comments. I draw from psychology and biology to formulate my opinions. In some communication research, the softening of the male voice is often modeled. It is biological factor for most males will have a deep voice. The altering occurs with gender confusion, if he identifies with females thus altering his voice to be softer.
@galacticmode So now anyone who you would consider effeminate would just be a reminder of what you were conditioned as a child and teenager to hate and loathe. You and I both know this has nothing to do with XYpowerpop and everything to do with you. Isn’t it fun when we make assumptions about a person's life.
@ShawnNotFiction A guy with feminine behaviors is effeminate. Poppy is an effeminate gay guy (looks gay, gay hand gestures, sounds gay). He has many videos that showcase he has feminine behaviors. The alternative would be, he is a masculine gay guy. Show me how he is masculine? What evidence do you have to support that this has everything to do with me and not him? LOL
I think the real problem here is that the American homosexual ideology has been unfavorable for certain types of gay men. Effeminate, disease stricken, and non-White ethnic groups are easy targets for prejudice and discrimination. You are Black and effeminate so this is a sensitive issue for you.
I don't think you should be mistreated or devalued as a human being. Gay men are not automatically obligated to accept all gay men just because they have been an oppressed ostracized group.
@galacticmode I understand this, but gay men (who by definition break the male gender role of society) who discriminate against other gays for breaking different gender roles is ridiculous, and hypocritical.
@xypowerpop For example, I do not like gay sounding voices (gay or straight). It is an unattractive and undesirable feature. How is that being hypocritical? Your presentation of this issue is petty and elementary.
@galacticmode You're quick to attack the point I'm trying to make, when your comment still doesn't acknowledge the hypocrisy I pointed out. Why is it undesirable? I'm trying to force people to question these negative feelings.
@xypowerpop You have turn the context of this issue into a negative one. I don't think there is anything wrong being effeminate and some might. It does not mean I am obligated to want a feminine guy. You're the one spewing that it is hateful and harmful. What is the alternative? I have to like something I don't want? Such absurdity.
You know what, man. Your videos are just phenonemnal, interesting and then some. I just enjoy taking some time out to view. You touch on some absolute controversial issues and topics. At the same time I will hold my ground on conduct. It's the parents responsibility to not only raise the child to become active responsible members of society but also making sure they are equipped to survive as adults. Fathers usually know what's best for their male children so it is their duty to groom them.
I've witnessed masculine men becoming "effeminate" when they've associated with the "flamers" long enough. I strongly believe that this behaviour is learned. Speech and behavioural patterns come from environmental influences whether it'd be from the household or your peers. There's really isn't any scientific evidence but these studies have proved to be relevant in some way or another.
@UltraPOPDJ You kind of describe it like it's special in some way? People learn the behaviors of many of those around them regardless of where they fall on the gender spectrum. It's just how human personality learns, adapts, and changes. It happens the other way around too.
@UltraPOPDJ also, "There's really isn't any scientific evidence but these studies have proved to be relevant in some way or another." so there are studies, but not scientific evidence? How exactly was a study conducted then?
OK, let's just say "proof" or results are inconclusive. I've read a couple of articles while studying "understanding psychology" (not the full course) that some of these studies have been performed. I will use the "father figure" study as an example, the highest percentage of the effeminate gay males reported not having a "male" role model in the household or their mothers "gave too much love". To my understanding, the father had little or no influence over them.
Well, anyone can construe this anyway they'd like, this kind of behaviour is just not acceptable. Sexual preference really isn't a concern from where I stand, it's the behaviour, simple. Chanting terms such as "girl" and "girlfriend" out in the open just just plain "silly" especially when you're a male. There are certain standards that all of us must attain as individuals just as you'd attain when you're dealing with a person of formality (lawyer, judge, doctor, boss, etc.).
So, if you were born a male and then with male parts, why don't you step into the role and "live it"? Conduct yourself in a respectable manner. Sure, some of us may have a little bit of "sugar" in our pants, but to go out and flaunt is just plain outlandish.
@UltraPOPDJ since what's expected of males and females has been proven to be a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT ( by the fact that it differs as you look at different cultures) why does everyone have to "live" the part? If you hold that belief, then everyone should be heterosexual, because being gay doesn't factor into stepping into the "role of a man" at all. The fact that someone is noticeably different doesn't mean they're "flaunting" anything.
I say, we all have a day where we all act "really gay" (aka femme according to les ignorantes) and go marching in the streets. That would set us all free to be.
As an asexual, androgynous male, I really have to applaud this. Thank you. There needs to be more people like you in the world.
marlonalarm 1 day ago
Straight Acting! LOL.... I didn't know bending over was very Masc or Straight Acting....
xxzombiexxpsychoxx 3 days ago
I JUST LOVE YOU AND I LOVE YOUR VIEWS! so smart and articulate and GORGEOUS love you boo<3
davisfontanes 4 days ago
WORD!! I am tired of people judging our COMMUNITY! I made a video like this 2 years ago
davisfontanes 4 days ago
Im just not at all attracted to fem gay men though. Also I cant find them attractive. I'll still respect everyone as a person etc but there is no attraction.
dothedeed 1 week ago
You made SUCH a good point, especially in the first two or three minutes of the video. This problem is predominate with straight girls, too. I have so many friends who just "prefer" white guys without ever thinking about WHY that is.
TheSim1derful 1 week ago
I once though that effeminate gays made me feel uncomfortable. Then I realized it was just sexually suggestive "wave my genitals in your face" people that I find offensive. Hyperbole of course, but you get the idea. Not a lot of exposure, but after being around a larger sample of gays I realized I'm not uncomfortable around them. I don't think people should belittle gays or shun them. I do have different views about it's morality, but no.. should be treated with dignity and respect and love.
doxprodigy 1 week ago
You are probably the most adorable person ever :) just sayin lol. I love this videooo<3 you hit everything right on point.
JonnieMayer17 1 week ago
stra8 actin gays i just liers they annoy me,i dont judge ,but guys who dont like femme gays are idiots and fake an negative,i luv every 1 thats why life can be exciting:)
vinny111 2 weeks ago
i like your teeth, makes me wanna kiss your mouth
MierAntonio 2 weeks ago
I agree with you about the closeted ones but there are plenty of us out here that have to deal with the same stereotypes or the ones from the opposite, like i said to somebody else-- a guy finds out and his first thought is that your gonna come at him-- Im not on that dl stuff, dont be fooled the problem( there's i mean) is in the difference in sexual preference not often the character of masculinity.
Transformation18 2 weeks ago
That alignment, identification or whatever you want to call it doesnt always say that someone has a problem with femininity, furthermore you going at this the way shows you aligning the same assumption that gay means bad that your arguing against. straight acting and fem should be looked at like two extremes or equated to right and wrong. Some personalities clash and some dont, simple as that.
Transformation18 2 weeks ago
So you if you are "straight- acting" as you said because its your natural personality, your background, etc-- then your referred to by the fems as straight acting, assumed to be dl or closeted- I understand your point but I think that you are looking at things from a very narrowminded place. the term "Straight- acting" which is what you seem to really have a problem with doesn't not really say anything bad about femininity-- its just an alignment with the stereotypical "straight man" .
Transformation18 2 weeks ago
awesome video, so spot on <3
LLLeeeeeeeee 1 month ago
Well said.
luigee78 1 month ago
I wish masculine gays had more representation in the media and that's all I'm going to say about that. But I'm definitely NOT hating on anyone in the gay community or anyone at all, period. Although some people can be REALLY annoying with their whole over the top bullshit..
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@TheTvstuff I agree- no offense meant but if its taken that's on you-- guys that are identified by others as straight- acting, regular acting- have just as many stereotypes as the fems-- the whole DL your going to sneak and freak me ...
Transformation18 2 weeks ago
you have most things im looking for in a man! you are black, i love the bum chin, and the gap between you front teeth! damn im totally in love with you!
ihate40 1 month ago
i prefer black guys! dont have anything against white or other races but its just my preference! oh and man you are cute!
ihate40 1 month ago
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MrSinister84 1 month ago
have you ever thought of being a Model ???
Caotic3 1 month ago
Omg if you're a Christian, a gay, and really that great person you seem to be in your vids, you are my new hero!!<33
TheHiphopneverdied 1 month ago 2
@TheHiphopneverdied sadly I'm not a Christian. I'm glad you think I'm a great person though! :D
xypowerpop 1 month ago 4
@xypowerpop thank god ur not christian ^^
Blackhood7 1 week ago
Very well-said. I too, believe people should BE (NOT ACT) the person which they NATURALLY are. The expected "social norm", of HAVING to BE or "act" either masculine or feminine be damned! Always strive to BE YOURSELF as much (and as SAFELY) as possible. It is the BEST person you can be!
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I would be careful using the term "straight acting" because that usually imposes certain gender expressions on the gay male identity. "masculine" is the preferred word.
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some guys just arent attracted to fem guys. im not really. we do need in the media more variety of masc and fem guys. I dont consder myself masc or fem just me, I got my moments when i act fem but im usually more towards the masc side just depends. if u think the guys cute, and has a good personality go for it dont hold urself back because hes a lil more on the fem side i think is what hes tryna say. dont live ur life only looking for a certain 'type' of guy
Xander20001000 2 months ago
I've never called myself 'str8 acting', because I'm not sure how a 'str8' is supposed to act. Apart from maybe loving boobies and letting everyone know it, or going crazy for football, or going out in a gang to get stinking drunk, or driving around with friends in a pick-up to beat up gays...Or am I being stereotypical? ;-)
We should all be proud of who we are, and not try to impress others with false alter-egos. True friends and lovers can only ever love the real you, not a role you may play.
RobNorthampton 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Maybe you could explain this to me: I've never understood effeminate gays because GAY means that a man is attracted to another MAN. Not a WOMAN or a man who ACTS LIKE A WOMAN. There are tons of masculine gays who are unattracted to effeminate gays because their aura is too reminiscent of a woman. So do effeminate gays have effeminate personalities because of whom they were raised by? Is it an act or are they actually trying to emulate a woman because in that case why not be transgendered?
SceneGirlBarbie 3 months ago
Ur awesome <3
CheDevonSealy 3 months ago
I don't much care about a person's masculine or feminine mannerisms. One thing that I get a lot is that apparently I'm effeminate... yet... not effeminate enough, which I find quite hilarious. BUT I hate that my attraction to more effeminate than masculine males is frowned upon, as if I was born to play the role of "girl"... and... suddenly I'm labelled a lesbian. And from my experience with "straight-acting" gays... is that it is usually exactly what it suggests... an act.
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Btw you are very cute. A bit young but still fuckable ;)
MrBisteve 4 months ago
You are right there is a gay culture. But why do I have to be part of it? I don't do the gay scene because that's not me. I'm bi so if I want a girl I find 1, but when I want a guy I want a "Guy". Fem guy irritate me in public because they always make a spectical everywhere. Therefore I don't have fem friends. Fem can be themselves, just not around me.
MrBisteve 4 months ago
To me the thing that makes a man attractive is the masculinity otherwise I would just date a woman. A little bit of fem is ok, but some go wayyy overboard.
thestaydown 4 months ago
Now there are different degree's of feminity but for the most part if you go on gay chat sites extremely over the top fem gay guys run those places. They are usually mean and very dramatic. Making a show wherever they go. The problem with that is most men by nature don't want a whole bunch of attention drawn to them just walking to the store or going to a movie. I prefer to hang and relax with my friends or the person i'm with, I don't wanna turn the sidewalk into a catwalk.
thestaydown 4 months ago
You know what pisses me off, the fact that when I first came out because I was masculine people in the gay community were callin me confused. I AM A MAN. MEN HAVE TESTOSTERONE. That's what makes me masculine. No matter my sexuality I act like a man, because I am a man. I am so tired of fems complaining that masc gay men are mean to them. That's simply untrue in my experIence, it's been the other way around. I have tried to date fems and it didn't work because they were more fem than ANY WOMAN.
thestaydown 4 months ago
loved your video, would love to give you a big (friend) cuddle. You sound really nice.
PartyCommunist 4 months ago
i remember my roommate was complaining to his bf at the time about effeminate gay guys and his boyfriend said "well we all suck d*ck at the end of the day, so whats the problem"
astrolabe1976 4 months ago
great video! I've also tried to get people to think about why they are attracted to something. They often think its a gut reaction, or "i just do" when there is often a lot of psychology behind something
astrolabe1976 4 months ago
Ok, I'm just asking because I don't know. You are mildly effeminate. But Y do gay men act like women? I don't get it. All the gay men I met (a lot) were molested or raised by women which leads me to believe that their sexuality was distorted somehow. Does gay mean you are more woman than man? I just don't understand the acting like a woman part. Truth be told, it's not REALLY feminine. I never met a gay man that REALLY acted like a woman. It's always like bad, over impersonation of a woman.
tokyobrwn 4 months ago
@tokyobrwn Err... Do you mean the guy in this video is fem? Have you heard his voice? Turned up the volume? Men who are more feminine is often because they identified to a woman model really young (wrether there was a man present or not around them). It doesn't have anything to do with sexual orientation, as a matter of fact. Maybe you aren't meeting gay men in the right environments if they all share the same life patterns, because frankly, it's really not my experience.
Neurozumim 4 months ago
Great video and I think your totally awesome and CUTE too!!!!.....XD
kjpgt1991 4 months ago
Wow dude... You talk so much sense. I totally agree with what you say and I think everyone has a right to act exactly how they want to without discrimination. I don't think of myself as straight acting or totally effeminate, i'm just Jason and depending upon the situation i'm in, can act one way or another. I think we all, at some point, have fallen foul of slipping into conformity due to the amount of pressure we're under by just being different.
Blueyez74 5 months ago
I don't have any ''str8-acting'' gay friends(Not like they want to hang out with someone as queeny as me anyways) but i agree with you 100 percent!
thamagickjumpoff 5 months ago
... But u still make a good point... and the expression you make when u say 'straight acting gays' is kinda cute ;) :p
Hsohg25 5 months ago
You see i've found so much of acceptance within my circle of straight friends, i havent really thought about meeting people from the 'other' community, but i wouldnt mind... i just dont see myself in that way.... to compare and explain, i asked out a friend, who was a bit disturbed, he said he was fine with my sexuality, but he was straight... and will always be that way... fine.. totally honest and acceptable....I may be gay/bisexual whatever, but i may not conform to the queer culture...
Hsohg25 5 months ago
I agree with your points, but if i say personally, i do not believe in commmunities in terms of one's sexuality... i think straight and gay people can live under the same umbrella in harmony, but ALOT of Gap-bridging is required on both sides... I recently came out to my friends as Gay/Bisexual (im still not sure), and they were surprised, a bit weirded out, but they were accepting..! and that was my turn to be surprised....
Hsohg25 5 months ago
See I think you're quite straight acting anyway... lol x
DarrenDiamonds 6 months ago
xypowerpop
Sick of our shit? Fine. We're sick of yours, and all who're as narrowminded as you are.
I love how some homos moralize over how other homos should "be themselves" and not conform to society, and in the same sentence they say we suck because,ie we don't conform to the gay community.
Fuck the gay community.
I'm out to friends, family, and at work - and I get more respect for not being part of that dysfuntional fem club. Wallow in your own self-pity and misery, queens.
thebbeenn 6 months ago
@thebbeenn You're very sad!
thamagickjumpoff 5 months ago
@thebbeenn That did not make you any more appealing as a person to anybody.
yoshidragon2 3 months ago
im glad that u tackled this topic bc im a fem gay and i get pissed off everytime someone puts me or my actions or my likes down...for example, i carry a handbag bc i hate my pockets having stuff in it as well as i like bags...other gay guys have put me down and even made comments to my husband stating that they did not know why i would do that to our community and act the way i do...it ticks me off...i think we are who we are and if i am fem or masculine or neutral...who the fuck cares
gay19boy 6 months ago
people should be nice and realize that we are all human and like us for our personality and the and how nice we are. hating other people does not make us better and i hate when someone puts another human being down for any reason...we should help each other out...
gay19boy 6 months ago
I'm sick of people saying it's racist to not find one race attractive, i can't help the fact i don't find many, if any, non Caucasian men attractive.
lukecpjensen 6 months ago
I see alot of feminin ways in you. Your posture is girly and how you talk is gay.
bisexualbuffthug 6 months ago
Straight guy: You totally act like a straight guy.
Me: If I am acting straight, and I'm gay, that means you are acting as gay as me. You top or bottom?
Balduizm 6 months ago 21
@Balduizm LOL!
xypowerpop 6 months ago 3
Your just the black version of my ex BF....LOOL
LoveGlueGunnin9 6 months ago
Hey. Do you write yourself notes before you make a video? Because of course you make a version of this video and it sounds way more eloquent =p I need to start doing what you're doing.
tosheatower 6 months ago
@tosheatower lol, before I make a video like this I usually pace around for a little while thinking of what I want to say. I probably should write some notes down, so my videos would be on point, but right now nah no notes. mental notes for sure though. :) and your videos are amazing and natural, don't worry about them, your voice comes through just fine
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop I think you are absolutely amazin. I love how well spoken you are. There is a white gay guy who thinks that all black people are mean, uneducated, and on welfare. I told him to start watching your videos because you are a good example that we arent all like that. Thats why i admire you. So THANK YOU XYPOWERPOP!=)
Equality4ya 3 months ago
@Equality4ya thank YOU!!!
xypowerpop 1 month ago
HE'S ALSO A GAY FEM. SOMETIMES, I WARN HIM THAT WHENEVER WE DECIDE TO JOKE AROUND AND TO LAUGH AND TO HAVE A REALLY GREAT TIME AND HE DECIDES TO SMACK ME FOR NO APPARENT GOOD REASONING TO. LIKE, THEY DO IT FOR FUN & IT BOTHERS THE SHIT OUT OF ME AT TIMES. YOU WOULDN'T SEE ME BE GAY AND THEN FEEL THAT IT IS MY RIGHT TO JUST START SMACKING OTHER PEOPLE RANDOMLY FOR THEIR OWN SENSE OF HUMOR. THAT'S THE ONLY THING I DISLIKE ABOUT THEM; THE RANDOM-UNNECESSARY SMACKING THAT'S NOT NECESSARY AT ALL.
XxPrPrince19xX 6 months ago
I FREAKING LOVE THIS VIDEO AND YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!!! BUT, ITS NOT LIKE I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST MALE GAY FEMININES, ITS JUST THAT AT FIRST, SINCE I AM A STRAIGHT MAN, THAT IT WOULD ONLY TAKE ME A FEW SECONDS OR MINUTES TO PROCESS THE TYPE OF INDIVIDUAL WHO IS A GAY FEMININE. I JUST DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THEY MAY CROSS THE LINE AND FEEL THAT IT IS THEIR RIGHT TO HIT ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL AS THEIR TYPE OF MOTTO. I KNOW A GAY PERSON WHO IS A REALLY GOOD FRIEND OF MINES AND...
XxPrPrince19xX 6 months ago
I like fem non-whites, Asians specifically; what do you say about that?
CO2umbrella 6 months ago
@CO2umbrella more important: what do YOU say about that? :P
xypowerpop 6 months ago
i love that you're wearing that shirt while you talk about this!
random29 6 months ago
Great video , as always ! :)
TippingWater 6 months ago
wow. You definitely said somethings that needed to be said. This is something that I've thought about on several occasions. Me and my fiend where talking about gay people and he says he is very accepting of gays but doesn't like it when he sees un-modest sex craze gay people. I got angry but I calmly told him I also don't enjoy that in public but it's not gay people, It's un-modest PEOPLE. I told him that people who are crass and un-modest in public are both straight and gay. He finally got it.
viewsandrates 6 months ago
Get it, get it!
Petrades 6 months ago
@Petrades FKLJDHLKDSHFLKDSGHDLSKHJF D I MISSSED YOUUUU OMMMMG. I feel so honored you commented.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
Thanks Darien :)
drdantepereirea 6 months ago
wow i have so much to say about your rant, but frankly dont have the will to go thru it all, so heres my 2 cent short version: I agree that ppl should never act diff than themselves for any reason. I hate & wont associate with gays who put down any other gays, we are a small minority, we need to stick together as a community! Ive lived in large cities, i see waaay less gay on gay hate there, than lets say 'the dirty south'. much of this (other) gay hater shit comes from unresolved self hate
sleekcartim 6 months ago
Lol... Ur dog luks lik a pig
EeZBoiOpus 6 months ago
So there's a bad kind of gay and an acceptable kind of gay? Who makes up these things?
Silly bitches. * finger snap and a head toss*
colmonhs 6 months ago
So I get into a vlogging mood and decide to look up other vloggers for inspiration and lo and behold: A superlong rant video from you. YES. I must say I agree with you mostly. In some cases I think the term str8 acting is divisive however i think sum gay men who prefer masculinity over femininity in a partner receive backlash for just knowing wat they like. As a preference is fine, given its not based off of a homophobic precedent or misconception. I think i'm gonna go record a vid now. cya!
Ryuchan22 6 months ago
This video is HOSTILE and HATEFUL under the guise that it is promoting awareness of discrimination against feminine gay men. In an effort to condemn the labeling "straight acting", poppy ATTACKS gay men who use this descriptor. If he were trying to be proactive, he would offer solutions and strategies to promote acceptance and tolerance. Instead, he is ANGRY, BITTER and uses terms like, "screw straight acting", "I hate", "fucking bullshit", "I'm sick of your shit" which creates divisiveness.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode yeah :) trolling hard now. I appreciate your dissenting opinion though, and the comment.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop A troll in gay lingo/vernacular is also an ugly, unattractive, undesirable person. You should reconsider using the word.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode touché. ;-)
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@galacticmode keep in mind though, I used "trolling" in verb form both times (which isn't apart of the gay lexicon) , not noun form. Alright, really now I'm done, haha
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop I used "troll", the derivative for trolling as a noun and which is used as a figurative of speech in gay lingo. Face it, you need to be proactiv and you're not educated enough to continue.
galacticmode 6 months ago
Darien, Darien, Darien. I really dig how you formulated your opinion & then communicated it here. This is why I love you & respect you so much. ~Calvin
sfcalvinaz 6 months ago
@sfcalvinaz :-)
xypowerpop 6 months ago
I'm being myself, lot of people think I'm straight, and I do like str8 acting men or masculine men. However, I also have some attraction toward feminine men as long there not annoying, high maintains, and too materialistic, same thing as str8 acting men.
I think you should watch the Documentary about masculine gay men,'The Butch Factor', just YouTube it for the trailer.
aznguymetal 6 months ago
@aznguymetal I've watched that documentary a number of times :) I think the label of "straight acting" is damaging though. And I hate when people say "I don't have a problem with feminine guys, as long as they aren't annoying or loud or rude" - doesn't this standard apply to everyone? Aren't all loud/rude people annoying? That statement wasn't directed towards you at all, but others who have said similar things that I find interesting.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
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aznguymetal 6 months ago
I'm also annoy by gay douchebag, and calling themselves str8 acting and asking favor.
aznguymetal 6 months ago
@xypowerpop Poppy, you continue to whine. The utterance of your grievance is that you don't like masculine men because they highlight what is mostly desired in the gay community. Why don't you apply the same standard that effeminate gay men, drag queens, transsexuals, and gay pride parades are harmful to the gay community.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode lol, I think at this point you're just trolling :) s'all good though.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
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aznguymetal 6 months ago
In gay lingo or vernacular, STR8 ACTING = MASCULINE. It is a description of those who are, appear, pass, behave like the socially established norms and roles in our culture often associated with MEN. In the gay community, masculine guys are more attractive and desirable. A myth about homosexuals is that they want to be women. The construct of STR8 ACTING is a rejection of that myth because most gay men like being men who are interested in men and don't want any expression of femininity.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode Straight acting is still a damaging term because it places more worth in heterosexuality than homosexuality, and it's a total fucking oxymoron, lol. Also, I can understand a group of people attracted to males being, on average, attracted to the cultural and social constructions of the gender identity associated with males, but when people see any other form of gender expression as bad is when it's a problem.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop Straight acting = masculine. Masculinity is preferred in the gay community. Why are you attacking masculine gay men because they identify with a term that describes their gender role? An oxymoron is a statement that combines contradictory words. Straight acting is linked to masculinity, not having sex with women. Gay males who describe themselves as straight acting aren't saying they are straight.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode The term doesn't describe a gender role, it describes a sexual orientation ( straight ). Gender roles/expressions are different. The way you have gender expression and sexual orientation linked in your mind seems so warped to me.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop Sex (male, female) is defined by biology. Gender (masculine, feminine, androgynous, indifferent) is socially defined. There are often correlations between sex and gender. Masculine is a gender role, "Straight-acting" is a term within gay lingo/vernacular that means masculine. Straight describes a sexual orientation. You're parsing straight and acting. It is all about syntax and context, poppy.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode your argument seems to take different forms with each comment. I don't have time for this here anymore, I apologize.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop Poppy, you are just wrong when it comes to the intricacies of this issue. The problem is your using opinion, not research to support your views. When you arbitrarily used 80% as a statistic in this video without any research, I knew you were willing to make up anything to support your argument. You can learn about these topics and issues in undergraduate level communication, debate, and psychology courses. Aren't you just a freshman?
galacticmode 6 months ago
@heyitstyler123 it is in fact a canine :)
xypowerpop 6 months ago
Ok so what I hate more than homophobes are these misguided guys who think if they say "I'm str8 acting" that people will respect them more. Or they won't get called names . OMG Darien that doush I dated sits next to me in my French class and he totally ignores me. I have to tell him off write or do I just leave it.
drdantepereirea 6 months ago
@drdantepereirea oh nooo, awkward.. I think you should just leave it. You're above that and above him :) Just carry on with your French.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
I couldn't agree with you more! I wrote about this topic recently on my blog. I hate when people say "str8 acting!" No one is straight acting, you are either masculine or feminine. You forget to touch on transphobia, because that is also predominant within the gay community.
hewi868 6 months ago
@hewi868 I've been meaning to talk about a variety of trans issues in a video soon, I just want to make sure I approach it right because they're an entirely different obstacle to tackle
xypowerpop 6 months ago
To the st8 acting point that you made xpowerpop, i believe "straight acting men", i prefer to use "men that can pass" or "passing gay men" (alluding to being able to pass for white in the black community) that PRIDE themselves on being straight acting and being able to "pass" do detriment to the community because they serve as "insiders" to the un-knowledgeable masses to put down and further marginalize their community to raise their own status and build their own self esteem.
MrGuylaugher 6 months ago
truth! Embrace differences and variations within our community! The problem with homophobia within the gay community is that men are expected to "perform" gender a certain way and it leaves very little room for a self definition and proper self expression. We ARE ALL A MIX OF FEMININE AND MASCULINE ! We have a time when we perform femininity and a time when perform masculinity and this goes for BOTH straight and gay people.
MrGuylaugher 6 months ago
@MrGuylaugher You speak the truth :) That whole idea of "passing" is an interesting concept you brought up, because it's pretty big in the trans community as well.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
Tried to post a video response to this, but couldn't figure out how, so I just posted one on this topic on my page. Anyway, great video. I completely agree.
drdoodle2006 6 months ago
@drdoodle2006 :D
xypowerpop 6 months ago
Hugh Laurie plays House, for clarification.
galacticmode 6 months ago
Thank you for an insightful video touching on a topic that so many know about and yet so few know how to address. Wopila Tanka / Big Thanks!
thatsgay83 6 months ago
@thatsgay83 I'm glad you found my video insightful! :D thanks for watching
xypowerpop 6 months ago
I know which types of straight acting man you refer to but not every straight acting gay man is against femenine acting gay men. Cheers!!! :D
AngelTeranMusic 6 months ago
I understand your frustration %100 Darien, yet I dont think you should get to the point of generalizing and saying "fuck straight acting". I personally have tons of femboy friends, yet it turns out surprising for others to think Im gay myself because (I dont wanna say I act straight) I dont fall into that category of femboys, and that is just my nature. One dont have to support a cause he does not fall into, and as long as he dont diss about it I see nothing wrong with it. I know which types of
AngelTeranMusic 6 months ago
@AngelTeranMusic I think the term "straight acting" should be thrown away all together. Because unless you are pretending to have sex with women you are not straight acting. Not all straight men are masculine just like all gay men aren't effeminate, these are just stereotypical generalizations. In that vain, identifying as straight acting could suggest some level internalized homophobia. "I'm gay but im not gay acting!"
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction A convention of acting is that an actor will play roles that are not genuine to the actor. For example, House ACTS like a doctor on TV but has no medical license or credentials to perform the medical procedures he ACTS on television. Similarly, a gay man doesn't have to have sex with a woman to ACT like a straight man. In the field of acting, perception is reality.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode And how does a STRAIGHT man ACT exactly? As I have stated before its is an extreme generalization to assume that just because someone is straight, they are Masculine. The definition of a Straight man, in today's culture is a man who sleeps with women. That is the only stipulation! Any sort of gender expression that you tag on to that is because of your own basis.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction I will address the first part of your comment as a separate response. Your definition of a straight man, "a man who sleeps with women", is flawed. There are gay men who sleep with women. There are married men sleeping with their wives and having sex with men. There are gay men (in the closet) sleeping with women who may never sleep with a man, but they are gay. They may be afraid or paranoid to express or experience their homosexuality. There are plenty of variables.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode That strays away from the original topic which is the actual definition of straight acting and the misconceptions it implies. I may call myself trust worthy but actually be a conniving cheat. That variable does not change the original definition of what Trust worthy means. The over all point i am trying to make is that masculine gay men who i dentifiy as "straight acting" are implying that all straight men are masculine which is not the case, and that assumption can cause an....
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction Unhealthy escapism from being associated with the gay community. "I might be gay but I'm a straight acting, and not one of those gays." Which reinforces negative views on effeminate or "Gay Acting" men. So just by identifying as masculine gay man instead of Straight Acting, can help to eliminate some of hate, especially within our own community.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction Why do you presume a gay man who identifies as straight acting is disassociating himself with the gay community. You are creating hostility and an unhealthy divisive context to this issue. Do you know that some gay men think, "I am gay, I'm masculine, and I am proud to be gay".
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode There wasn't a "?" in here, although you seemed to be presenting questions. Please reiterate.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction It's called ACTING (not being), which means it may not be real. Not many gay men are comfortable being known as a gay, thus there is a portrayal of acting straight. Many gay men ACT straight for privacy and because of the consequences (discrimination, violence, etc). The notion that straight acting is a misconception when gay men apply it to their gender role is absurd. There are gay men who are masculine and others who are feminine. It is that simple.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode Your not getting it. Straight is not an appropriate gender role (Psychologically correct term being gender expression). It IS a sexual orientation (heterosexuality). You are right in saying that "There are gay men who are masculine and others who are feminine. It is that simple." And yet you don't seem to understand what you, yourself, have said. If a gay man wants to pretend to be straight for protection from society, he is CLOSETED NOT STRAIGHT ACTING.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@galacticmode And now you are saying that men who identify as straight acting are afraid of the consequences of being gay. That sir is ABSURD. It is one thing to have privacy of one's personal life its another entirely to be closeted. I'm pretty sure i could argue this with you for months and not get anywhere, so consider this my agree to disagree on the validity and consequences of the TERM straight acting.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@galacticmode in reference to the House example, yes he acts like a doctor. A doctor is one with a medical licence. He also plays a character that is rude and obnoxious. Using your logic, to be
"DOCTOR ACTING" one would be rude and obnoxious. The two are not related even though he happens to be both.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@AngelTeranMusic my views pretty much align with Shawn's, so I feel like there's not much for me to add, heh.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
I just realized that this video is a response to another, "Looking For Str8 Acting Bottom Bitches!!!". I told you people, Poppy is a PERVERT using pseudo intellectual arguments as a smokescreen for his contempt for gay men who won't @#$% him.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode I added the video as a response as an afterthought, i was looking for a good video my argument could add to. I'm in a great relationship and I'm not too worried about whether or not random gays want to bang me. :P You should know the person you're talking about before you mouth off about them, because you only make yourself look rude. Your comments won't be removed, though, I lol'ed too hard for me to want them gone. And I want others to be exposed to dissenting opinion. ;-)
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop Thanks for allowing my comments to remain posted as they are contradictory to most others. And as an afterthought, I subscribed to your channel over a year ago after viewing a video of you eating a burger. I have seen some of your videos and only on two occasions, this video and your racism one, have I felt the need to debate your or others viewpoints.
galacticmode 6 months ago
And get off your soap box about hypocrisy. Why do you get to say, "screw str8 acting" but others cannot say SCREW 'GAY ACTING'.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode it's "screw str8 acting" as a term, or an idealistic view. Not that all straight acting people are bad. If a GAY person were to say "SCREW GAY ACTING" they would in turn only be condemning themselves. You're not straight acting unless you pretend to have sex with someone of the same gender and your not gay acting unless you pretend to have sex with someone of the opposite gender. Because that is all straight and gay actually means. (dictionaries are your friends)
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction My point was about the hypocrisy issue. But lets go with the acting. A convention of acting is that an actor will play roles that are not genuine to the actor. For example, House ACTS like a doctor on TV but has no medical license or credentials to perform the medical procedures he ACTS on television. Similarly, a gay man doesn't have to have sex with a woman to ACT like a straight man. In the field of acting, perception is reality. You really need to educate yourself.
galacticmode 6 months ago
In this video, he decides to attack gay men who have preferences for masculine gay men and call them hypocrites. He uses gay pornography as a factor for how gay men develop attraction. That is another sexual implication. Xypops presentation is perverse and weak. Basically, he's not having sex from guys he desires, and this video is evidence of his anger. MY OPINION.
galacticmode 6 months ago
MY OPINION is that xypowerpop is exploiting this issue for a self-serviant purpose. In his racism video, he only mentions social racial discrimination, not employment, professional, or academic opportunities. That sounds like code for, he's not having sex. Therefore, he decides to offer pseudointellectual arguments and call anyone who doesn't agree with him a racist.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode Your OPINION is based on quite a few assumptions about him. His other video was about racism IN THE GAY COMMUNITY. What would that have to do employment, professional, or academic issues. Its easy to sit behind a blank profile and rattle on about this person is this and this person wants that. What this looks like is an obvious case of projection your own insecurities on to others.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction THE GAY COMMUNITY encompasses a broad field yet he only talked about social discrimination like at a club or on gay sites. I think discrimination IN THE GAY COMMUNITY has far more consequences in areas of professional, political, academic, etc. I deemed the argument petty and rejected the premise that racial preferences are racist. In the social arena such as gay clubs and sites, who cares if someone doesn't like your race. In the workforce, discrimination is harmful.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode Discrimination is always harmful whether it be in the work force or at the grocery store. Any sort of discrimination in the Gay Community creates separations, and makes us weaker as a group as well makes us seem hypocritical when pledging for tolerance and acceptance when we can't even accept our own differences. Besides you cant blame him for not discussing topics such professional discrimination when he has yet to experiences the professional world.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@galacticmode From what I can see, you surround yourself with sexual photos, videos and probably have random non emotional sex all the time. Most likely to fill a void of affection you never got from your parents. No wonder the only conclusion you could draw from someone having issues with this kind of hate would be sexual frustration.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction I find muscular men attractive. This is YouTube, not a porn site. I'm not sure why you're attributing that to a developmental issue. The comment I made about poppy and sexual frustration is because his commentary was based on some gay men who reject him because of race. Rejection = NO SEX. It is like making a argument about the high price of fuel. The real utterance is, we need more efficient types of energy and better modes of transportation. DO YOU GET IT? LOL
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode . The reason behind your hate for more effeminate men would most likely because when you were younger people, probably your parents, would pick on you for being a little "girly" yourself, like your voice was a little high? So you did everything you could to change, like excessive exercising, actively deepening your voice, and getting upset at yourself whenever you do anything that could be construed as effeminate.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction I DO NOT HATE EFFEMINATE MEN. I do not find it attractive. I'm not sure why you're using developmental processes to analyze my comments. I draw from psychology and biology to formulate my opinions. In some communication research, the softening of the male voice is often modeled. It is biological factor for most males will have a deep voice. The altering occurs with gender confusion, if he identifies with females thus altering his voice to be softer.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode So now anyone who you would consider effeminate would just be a reminder of what you were conditioned as a child and teenager to hate and loathe. You and I both know this has nothing to do with XYpowerpop and everything to do with you. Isn’t it fun when we make assumptions about a person's life.
ShawnNotFiction 6 months ago
@ShawnNotFiction A guy with feminine behaviors is effeminate. Poppy is an effeminate gay guy (looks gay, gay hand gestures, sounds gay). He has many videos that showcase he has feminine behaviors. The alternative would be, he is a masculine gay guy. Show me how he is masculine? What evidence do you have to support that this has everything to do with me and not him? LOL
galacticmode 6 months ago
I think the real problem here is that the American homosexual ideology has been unfavorable for certain types of gay men. Effeminate, disease stricken, and non-White ethnic groups are easy targets for prejudice and discrimination. You are Black and effeminate so this is a sensitive issue for you.
galacticmode 6 months ago
I don't think you should be mistreated or devalued as a human being. Gay men are not automatically obligated to accept all gay men just because they have been an oppressed ostracized group.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode I understand this, but gay men (who by definition break the male gender role of society) who discriminate against other gays for breaking different gender roles is ridiculous, and hypocritical.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop For example, I do not like gay sounding voices (gay or straight). It is an unattractive and undesirable feature. How is that being hypocritical? Your presentation of this issue is petty and elementary.
galacticmode 6 months ago
@galacticmode You're quick to attack the point I'm trying to make, when your comment still doesn't acknowledge the hypocrisy I pointed out. Why is it undesirable? I'm trying to force people to question these negative feelings.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop You have turn the context of this issue into a negative one. I don't think there is anything wrong being effeminate and some might. It does not mean I am obligated to want a feminine guy. You're the one spewing that it is hateful and harmful. What is the alternative? I have to like something I don't want? Such absurdity.
galacticmode 6 months ago
You know what, man. Your videos are just phenonemnal, interesting and then some. I just enjoy taking some time out to view. You touch on some absolute controversial issues and topics. At the same time I will hold my ground on conduct. It's the parents responsibility to not only raise the child to become active responsible members of society but also making sure they are equipped to survive as adults. Fathers usually know what's best for their male children so it is their duty to groom them.
UltraPOPDJ 6 months ago
Once again it's not really about sexual preference from where I stand it's the behaviour.
UltraPOPDJ 6 months ago
@xypowerpop thanks man i feel much now about it but once again great topic
naries21 6 months ago
I've witnessed masculine men becoming "effeminate" when they've associated with the "flamers" long enough. I strongly believe that this behaviour is learned. Speech and behavioural patterns come from environmental influences whether it'd be from the household or your peers. There's really isn't any scientific evidence but these studies have proved to be relevant in some way or another.
UltraPOPDJ 6 months ago
@UltraPOPDJ You kind of describe it like it's special in some way? People learn the behaviors of many of those around them regardless of where they fall on the gender spectrum. It's just how human personality learns, adapts, and changes. It happens the other way around too.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@UltraPOPDJ also, "There's really isn't any scientific evidence but these studies have proved to be relevant in some way or another." so there are studies, but not scientific evidence? How exactly was a study conducted then?
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop
OK, let's just say "proof" or results are inconclusive. I've read a couple of articles while studying "understanding psychology" (not the full course) that some of these studies have been performed. I will use the "father figure" study as an example, the highest percentage of the effeminate gay males reported not having a "male" role model in the household or their mothers "gave too much love". To my understanding, the father had little or no influence over them.
UltraPOPDJ 6 months ago
@UltraPOPDJ this still does nothing for the argument that behaving effeminately is inherently bad or wrong or negative in any way.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
@xypowerpop
Well, anyone can construe this anyway they'd like, this kind of behaviour is just not acceptable. Sexual preference really isn't a concern from where I stand, it's the behaviour, simple. Chanting terms such as "girl" and "girlfriend" out in the open just just plain "silly" especially when you're a male. There are certain standards that all of us must attain as individuals just as you'd attain when you're dealing with a person of formality (lawyer, judge, doctor, boss, etc.).
UltraPOPDJ 6 months ago
So, if you were born a male and then with male parts, why don't you step into the role and "live it"? Conduct yourself in a respectable manner. Sure, some of us may have a little bit of "sugar" in our pants, but to go out and flaunt is just plain outlandish.
UltraPOPDJ 6 months ago
@UltraPOPDJ since what's expected of males and females has been proven to be a SOCIAL CONSTRUCT ( by the fact that it differs as you look at different cultures) why does everyone have to "live" the part? If you hold that belief, then everyone should be heterosexual, because being gay doesn't factor into stepping into the "role of a man" at all. The fact that someone is noticeably different doesn't mean they're "flaunting" anything.
xypowerpop 6 months ago
I say, we all have a day where we all act "really gay" (aka femme according to les ignorantes) and go marching in the streets. That would set us all free to be.
BIGBALLSSEESALL 6 months ago
@BIGBALLSSEESALL That'd be fun, but I don't think it'd accomplish much, lol
xypowerpop 6 months ago
Velvet Rage is a great book detailing the process of dealing with gay shame that leads to false persona.
BIGBALLSSEESALL 6 months ago