@Ben55607 That dial in the real F-4s (i seated in one long time ago in a museum) is the weapon select.. pilots would select what to fire with that.. the pilot was then selecting the proper AA missile (probably an AA-8 Aphid) and then firing..
I guess somebody told the actors/directos what switch to use or maybe just the actor randomly turning it by chance
@DefconEast Bonus points also for the planes sporting the same "BA" tail code than in the first movie (where they were suposed to be from Beecher Airbase) and same later when they go to Israel all F-16s again have same tail code.... like if all Falcons in the air force would wear the same tail code all arround the world
can anyone name the song and who sings it in this movie when the flight leader dies and there all sat on the bed looking at his drawings as i cant find this song anywhere cheers
Mayday mayday dougs been shot through his anal opening! Hes going down fast but Chappys gonna catch his little bitch ass and show him how to really fly! Mind you Chappy was shot down in the first iron chicken I mean eagle! I would hve put ARNOLD in this movie he would make a much better bad-guy espically with that gap in his tooth-
@gloomyclatonj MY guess its that Jason Gedrick wasnt avalaible for doing this movie but he agreed to make a small cameo as a connection between movies ..and then the writers decided to make a shock for the audience killing the "heroe" from first to give an unexpected and darker turn..
Actually this is by far the darker from the 4 movies as the other 3 are practically teen-action-semi-comedy
We may or not agree with killing Doug (tought he wasnt killed really) but it sure catched our attention
It appears at 1:28 he is somehow obtaining 8+ of positive G while going nose down. But his altimeter is still slowly climbing. Maybe these are the ultra secret F-16K's.
Stupid movie. Not only is it stupid to deviate off course when on CAP next to an enemy airspace, and to pull an aircraft over G limit for no reason (yeah, they can break in time), it's stupid because with AGM-65s loaded F16 would not let them pull over 6.5G. And it's also stupid because on MFD HUD you can see they first go into negative push at 210 kts (while an overlay is showing 9.0G WTF) and then they pull it to 9.3G max at 530kts at 1:36, and Thumper pulls it only to 6.9G at 2:11 not 10!?
@revious83 Budget/coolness.. they probably didnt got the IAF to fire real weapons for them (except in IE1 when one real F-16 is seen droping some bombs) and probably just used some "archive" machine gun sound.. in Top Gun the F-14s actually never fire the guns... In The final countdown they actually got the F-14s fire the guns and sidewinders for real..
But even in for example Independence Day the F/A-18's vulcans still sound like machine guns rather than a Vulcan..
How did those migs sneak up on them like that? What, They turned off their radars too? As well as goofing around so close to Russian airspace? What kind of pilots are these?!?
@Enforcerj79 They very likely were directed there by GCI.. actually Russian intercepting tactics placed great importance in ground control to maneouver to the target, then turn on the radar and fire
just think that a fighter with its radar on can be easily detected by the intruder... if ground control has the bandit on radar they can direct the interceptors without them activating the radar.. its more sneaky but its quite more safe for the interceptors.. after all you want to be in an advantage when the intercept comes, you dont want the intruder ready to strike back at you
Great, you reached 10g's - you just broke the goddam airplane...that was dumb. Flying airplanes to their structural limit, just for the hell of it, will get you fired. Air Force doesnt allow pilots to needlessly abuse their aircraft like that.
But I know, its just a movie....and a crappy movie at that.
@Fuunken - Perhaps, and thats fine, but in the US, if structural limitations of the aircraft define a sepcified g-limit, an aviator would not be permitted to meet or exceed that, just for the fun of it, as shown in this movie. Exceeding G-limits can cause structural damage to aircraft, which limits aircraft service life, and creates safety hazards for one's fellow aviators.
@RoninHawk True, you can get your wings taken away for pulling stunts like that in the states. Not only that ,but disabling the limiter alone would merit massive backlash, specially since a lot of the F16's are getting up there in age now.
@Fuunken - Sure, we are already having F-15s encounter catastrphic structural failures in mid flight. I think that happend several yaers ago over the gulf of Mexico. One of the aircraft from Tyndall I believe. But no, pushing the envelope is only permitted during combat or training operations, and even then, risk management practices wouldve altered training to avoid it unless deemed necessary. It still all comes down to money. It gets expensive to be breaking airplanes.
@RoninHawk True. If I'm not mistaken an F15 crashed in Afghanistan last month or the month before from integrity issues. Expensive is putting it lightly, lol, if my engine blows up in my car it's expensive to fix yes, but nothing close to the millions it costs to fix the jets.
@Fuunken - Yeah, I dont recall why that one went down actually. But yeah these planes are getting old, and fighter planes in particular, get a lot more wear-n-tear during the course of their lives. More so and other aircraft. Thats why B-52s are still in service despite being 60 years old.
First he was facing useless bad trained arab pilots in MIG-23s.. and now he was facing properly trainer ace russians in MIG-29s..
Jokes apart russians take very seriously their training and tactics so they will allways perform a lot better than most arab (or any third world) pilots...
let me get this straight, Doug took out an entire fleet of russian MIGs a colonel an oil refinery rescued his dad ALONE!!!!!! AND YOUR TELLING ME THAT HE DIED TO A FLEET OF F4S WITHOUT GETTING 1 DOWN WITH HIS LAST WORD BEING COBRA!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SUCK PRODUCERS
flight of the intruder used A6 intruder, Top Gun used A4 Skyhawks, F5 Tiger2's,F14 tomcat, Iron Eagle used F16s, iai Kfir / C21's, Bat 21 used O2 Skymaster and T41s, Wings of the apache used AH64 apache, iron eagle2 used F16 and F4 phantoms, I could go on but you'll get bored
@everythingman987 While the F-4s were probably easier to lend for air sequence purposes, I'd always wished the IAF would have let their F-15s in on the film; they could have made a much better, closer-looking design "costuming" for posing as the MiG-29 Fulcrum.
@andresrodrigoescobar That's because those *were* Israeli aircraft. The U.S. Air Force would never grant permission to use theirs as...well, both films paint Air Force folks in a nearly incompetent light.
i loved this film simply because it used the fighting falcons over the f14 and i love the little rascals to bits (i know the f14 is the power and their are better planes but i think the f16 just suits my personality)
@spike250684 The F-14 was faster, had more range and quite better sensors and long range weapons, but the F-16 is more agile and had ground attack capability since mid 80s where the F-14 got it 20 years later.. they are not in the same category.. the direct USAF rival would be the F-15
and like i say i dont realy care that their are better planes out their i love the fighting falcoln tho i would probly use the eagle over the tomcat anyway im not comparing catogorys (you could say the tomcats carrier borne so that also improves range) and that the f22 improves on the f15 but i would rather fly th f16 or a panavia tornado ids
just like i preferr the hurricane to the spitfire
@spike250684 Yes, i know what you are talking about.. i realice now that im going to be a F-14 guy until i die.. i can picture myself in the future with the F-55 or some MIG-60 futuristic strange plane my grandsons find awesome and i will still talk "rubish, the F-14 now that was the awesome jet!"
my bad then i realy tought 12g's are fatal maybe i read it wrong any ways how mutch g's can a plain like the f-16 handel before breaking apart and what the limit for a f-4 non specific just any f-4 thnx in advance and thnx for the reply sparrowlt
@oscherry509 The main difference between the F-16 and the F-15/F-4 in this aspect is that the F-16 is limited to 9Gs by the FCS so it cant go past 9G while the F-15 and F-4 are "analog" controls where the pilot moves directly the surfaces and have no limit on the Gs , same as the mentioned MIG25, so in some cases those airframes can pull more than 10Gs, the MIG25 that hit 11.5Gs (i was mistaken, it was 11.5 , not 14) was writen off, the F-15 can withstand for a couple of seconds
@oscherry509 The modern F22 can pull more G's than the human body can handle. Its been said that we have reached the technological limit with piloted airplanes. Unless we can develop something to protect the body from the G forces you will never see another manned Fighter
lol 10g's ye right if 12 is fatal what is ten then i think even a trained pro woud black out at 10g's or not? wel if heard that 12g's are fatal so doug hell no u did ten and stil be like whahaha i did the ten lolz
@oscherry509 12 is not fatal.. in the 1st Gulf War , Larry Pitts pulled a 12G split-S to put himself in the tail of a MIG25 wich he shot-down shortly later (after firing several missiles that were decoyed) .. he said that the F-15 was a very strong bird and that he didnt even renember being faced by the 12G because he was full of adrenaline.. so no.. 12 is not fatal in the right conditions.Also there was a russian MIG25 that once pulled 14Gs to avoid a crash,pilot survived but airframe damaged
after this part in the movie I packed it right to the video store. You kill off Doug in the begining of the movie what idiots, I hope someone was fired for that decision. Well just look at all the series. All flops without Doug Masters dummies.
@BradyToMoss1 I remember when my brother took me to see this movie in the theaters. I was young. I wore out the Iron Eagle original VHS tape like 4 times. Then he took me to see this one and I was devistated that Doug died. I couldn't believe it
The thing that bothers me about these movies is the Air Force would never let some cocky little 15 year old fly a multi million dollar piece of equipment.
@th3vikes Well im not quite compelled to "defend" those movies, but even in the movies they didnt.. in this one Doug was about 20 and allready a full air force Lt. , and in the first one it was Doug's father who sneaked Doug in to fly with him in secret behind the USAF risking court martial if found, and later Doug steals the jets along Sinclaire to rescue his father.
Actually.. it was that reason why the USAF didnt helped making this movie, the idea was just insulting to them.
@sparrowlt maybe it varies from country to country.. coz i've been an armorour for 4 years in the Royal netherlands airforce.. and 5G's is what they always told me..
and btw.. it's a big shame that in every shot the f16's have a different configuration.:S oh well .. this movie feels like 'behind enemy lins' haha
@01dennis10 Wel.. thats why i said... carrying only 2 sidewinders and 2 maverics is more than lighy enought to be used as CAT-I , so they can pull up to 9... if they carried for example 6 mavericks , fuel tanks, any bombs , rockets, etc... they (until all weapons depleted and ejected) would remain in CAT-III conf (is a switch in the cockpit) and cant (or better said shouldnt) pull more than 5G or you will damage the sub-wing pilons (and ordinance)
I loved the clip of the HUD where it showed him doing a positive 8.8G at 1.27 into the vid when he's in the middle of a negative G dive. That man has skillz to pull that off.
He came back in the fourth one. a different actor but the same character. some how he ejected before the missle hit. which is fake bull.. but it was an ok movie in my opinion
I was quite surprised to see this also,perhaps he should have restarted his tape player before going into combat as this was his "edge" in the first movie
@IknowJohnLear A lot of films were made in Israel during the 80s. Iron Eagle and Delta Force being two I can think of on the top of my head. And both Iron Eagle and Delta Force had some very negative views on the Arabs :)
to be more specific I reckon it was the Iron Eagle Movies that had the original footage,and the B grader movies that "used" these same footage in time to follow,a bit like the series JAG using footage from TopGun,Hunt for Red October and Executive Decision
Well Im Former F-16 fighter pilot the movies are great lol dont get me wrong. But this wouldnt have happened in real life. One he had his orders. Stay in formation and only 1 minute from US Air space in Alaska. Yes they lock on him but you cant blame them we would do the same thing. But good movie but yes its the movies. Thank you to the video post person pointing out that the mig's was f-4's
@paramedic90emt LOL well Mr Paramedic not pretending. Very happy you have a respect for us Military Personel. Did you want to fly fighters? You can join the military if you want. Im sorry to say but my dream was to be a Navy Seal not a fighter pilot. You should join and you can become a Fighter Pilot thats if its not to hard for you. I served my country now you can join and do the same. Thank you for your service as a Paramedic kid. lol
man poor thumper why dident cooper tell hime to turn on his music then we woud see him in the movie lolz,
if haf a few qeustions for you:what are those things on the wings that looks like guard railings,what's the top speed of that f-4 phantom,do all phantoms haf shoots in the tail?,last but not least whats up whit the the bomber its like its got a ladder on it? lolz ty
I love all these people that nitpick the planes in the Iron Eagle movies but completely miss the same kind of detail in Top Gun...It's a movie people,just relax and watch
In the same way i think is funny that despite that i point out ALL those details in the video description , people keeps pointing them and blaming one again and again... like if i didnt knew
The easiest way to tell what was C and A is all the footage of the F-16's carrying single Aim-9's and Agm-65's on each with are the F-16C's. The A's have the single Aim-9 on each wing and thats it.
Dunno... the thing is that this movie was filmed in mid 1987 and the F-16C was delivery to Israel in november 1987.... thats what makes it hard to be F-16C footage .. unless they filmed IAF latest brand new fighter just after delivery..
Great footage. Great jets. But as a film, I only went and saw the movie assuming it was a continuation of Doug's story from the original Iron Eagle. It was a huge let down for me. :(
despite the mis-labeling of aircraft, that is some really good footage of the F-4E Kurnass. Good video of Israeli aircraft is hard to find outside of the IE films.
actually, contrary to the tag in the video, the aircraft shown in the opening ARE F-16Cs. Those were some of the first block 30 F-16C Baraks Israel received. (yeah, most of the rest of the movie footage is regurgitated A models from the first film though)
Sorry but those are really F-16A "Netz".. the air intake/engine is the early F-16A .. and the cockpit is clearly F-16A too (only one monocrome MFS between legs.. F16C had and has 2 MFDs and between the legs its the HSI) and this movie was shot in 1987.. Israel took delivery of their first F-16C in nobember 1987 ..and even ignoring all prior evidence ..i doubt they would use their prime new fighters having "old" F-16A to film a "crappy movie" wich even didnt promoted them (planes are "USAF")
man gota love those f-4's to bad they dont use them anymore.
we stil haf those f16's but i dont know if ther iether a or c's i am gesing c's but then again ther locked up good so who knows.besides where trading them in for jsf.
its a darn shame but its the same whit those f-14 tomcats you cant stop evolution.
I remember seeing this as a kid and when doug got killed it just blew me completely away. When the movie got to the end I was still saying....................ok they just killed doug! LOL One of those movies where you want something different to happen. You even think if you watch it enough times something different will actually happen. LOL!!!
While the F-16 take on 2 F-4s , the other 2 can go away wide and come after them with the Sparrows.. or the 2 "chased" phantoms can lure the F-16s to their non-busy friends ..so no... 4 on 2 is not so easy
I never said easy. However the F-16 has superior Radar, and Superior Missiles specifically AIM-120D as well as superior maneuverability. The F-16 would detect the larger Phantom first The F-16 then fires its AIM-120's which would have no problems destroying the F-4's.
It's kinda hard to understand this movie's logic... In the first part, Doug was supposed to be barely 19 or smth like that, and after ONE week of training he managed to blow up dozens of planes, sam launchers, helicopters and to avoid hundreds of missiles, what was he then a superhero pilot???... And here, in a "simple" dog fight, he gets shot... wtf??
I supose the logic is : In IE1 he was fighting an arab third country world.. with bad maintained MIGs, crappy pilots wich dont train, shitty equipment.. etc.
And here in IE2 he is fighting the best border-patrol russian pilot aces in new Fulcrums ..it does have a logic. USA raped Iraq and other MIG users wich were not tight in training and tactics, but russia and india rape everyone in exercices because they top train their pilots and maintain fresh their planes and hardware
if you remeber in this movie they picked this guys because they were suppose to be flunkies and they wanted the mission to fail. sorry, love the vid but still no logic i see in what they did to make a movie. but that is just my thought. it and a buck fifty would't get you a cup of coffee
remember the logic was he and his friend violated Russian airspace which even in today's world is considered an act of war. Unfortunately Doug is killed by the Russians
It's a shame Doug Masters was shot down here, he was the main protagonist of the first Iron Eagle, and that Chappy was only a supporting character. Well, it's time for Chappy to take the role as the main character instead...
LOL THey are F-4's. You just gotta suspend your disbelief. This movie was made in the 80's. I guess it was hard to get F-16's and Mig 29's in the same place back then. Sort of like if you made a Korean War movie in the 50's you couldn't get Mig-15's and F-86's together.
I like how the F4s shot him by turning a dial... nice lol.
Ben55607 2 weeks ago
@Ben55607 That dial in the real F-4s (i seated in one long time ago in a museum) is the weapon select.. pilots would select what to fire with that.. the pilot was then selecting the proper AA missile (probably an AA-8 Aphid) and then firing..
I guess somebody told the actors/directos what switch to use or maybe just the actor randomly turning it by chance
sparrowlt 2 weeks ago
its a great movie so how bout yall cool it with the movie mistakes, just relax and watch the movie
LSUPOWERDC 1 month ago
That is Doug. The actor is Jason Gedrick. Your a dipshit.
ryankurtz1 1 month ago
thats not doug. iw ould feel alot shittier if that was the same actor as the first movie
josef733 1 month ago
I remember the firts time i watched this movie after Doug Masters dies thinking "What the hell?"
XxIDaveIxX 2 months ago
My mom died the same way.
tmanran 3 months ago
There are not Mig-29's they are F-4 Phantom II
Skybolter 3 months ago
I love the desert camo on these 16's. Wait...Alaska has a desert, right? xD
DefconEast 4 months ago 2
@DefconEast Bonus points also for the planes sporting the same "BA" tail code than in the first movie (where they were suposed to be from Beecher Airbase) and same later when they go to Israel all F-16s again have same tail code.... like if all Falcons in the air force would wear the same tail code all arround the world
sparrowlt 4 months ago
can anyone name the song and who sings it in this movie when the flight leader dies and there all sat on the bed looking at his drawings as i cant find this song anywhere cheers
saxs72 4 months ago
Hey! Did you know those really F4's???
(just kidding, i hate people that point out obvious shit)
ResQ198 5 months ago
Rolling an F-16 really doesn't really give 10G's....
CharlieAlfaPapa 5 months ago
Shooting down doug ruined my childhood :(
superveggito2000 6 months ago 2
someone want to explain what "Blow the roof's off an Anchorage" means? LOL
RoyalCompass 6 months ago
@RoyalCompass they mean Achorage, a city in Alaska (where they were at first before veering off into soviet air space)
sparrowlt 6 months ago
@lyingscum mayday mayday lyingscum is sucking chappys nuts!!!! Lmaooooi
1977Brehon 6 months ago
Mayday mayday dougs been shot through his anal opening! Hes going down fast but Chappys gonna catch his little bitch ass and show him how to really fly! Mind you Chappy was shot down in the first iron chicken I mean eagle! I would hve put ARNOLD in this movie he would make a much better bad-guy espically with that gap in his tooth-
lyingscum 6 months ago
Man those Phantoms are SEXY!
lyingscum 6 months ago
no there F-16A's theumper lol. and whats with the desert camo over alaska??
Shibidibo 6 months ago
why did they really kill doug really was the actor tired of doing another movie i mean what is it
gloomyclatonj 6 months ago
@gloomyclatonj MY guess its that Jason Gedrick wasnt avalaible for doing this movie but he agreed to make a small cameo as a connection between movies ..and then the writers decided to make a shock for the audience killing the "heroe" from first to give an unexpected and darker turn..
Actually this is by far the darker from the 4 movies as the other 3 are practically teen-action-semi-comedy
We may or not agree with killing Doug (tought he wasnt killed really) but it sure catched our attention
sparrowlt 6 months ago
Finally someone took that brat Doug out.
a2birdcage 7 months ago
@a2birdcage and hence the USSRAF rules :P!!!!!
harris3693 2 months ago
It appears at 1:28 he is somehow obtaining 8+ of positive G while going nose down. But his altimeter is still slowly climbing. Maybe these are the ultra secret F-16K's.
a2birdcage 7 months ago
anyone knows the song at the beginning?
groeneslang 7 months ago
@groeneslang
Mike Reno - Chasing The Angels
Great song ! :)
eduardobsn 6 months ago
I guess he was lying lol
oldfashionedguy91 7 months ago
mig 29"s? aint they f -4 phantoms?
drugfckd 7 months ago
@drugfckd yeah yeah, in case you dont know they didnt got the MIGs so they had to use the F-4 to represent them, stupid we know, but give it a break
deltaD07 7 months ago
It's a F-16's-A, but Israel Air Force purshed F-16 I.
007mgr 7 months ago
Oh god, they used F-4's for Mig-29's?
delta5297 8 months ago
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Seriously why kill doug??? he made it what it is!!!! theres no point carrying on with it
Stretchz1 8 months ago
What's the conversation between the russian pilots?
79peter1 8 months ago
@79peter1 Who knows... i hate when movies ignore any foraign dialoge and left the spectators to get it as "just some evil foraign jigerish" .
Would be nice that any russian here would tell us what they are saying
sparrowlt 8 months ago
jeeeeeesus christ with this youtube, i'm trying to enjoy this and its slower than shit and i'm on dsl too. youtube updating *yet* again or something?
TeslaDRay 8 months ago
"If I'm lying I'm dying" ... this statement is very suitable, since he's been only to 6.9G and he claimed he's been to 10. Liar.
oporim 8 months ago
Oh and I loved this movie when I was little, but looking at it today it's utterly stupid.
oporim 8 months ago
Stupid movie. Not only is it stupid to deviate off course when on CAP next to an enemy airspace, and to pull an aircraft over G limit for no reason (yeah, they can break in time), it's stupid because with AGM-65s loaded F16 would not let them pull over 6.5G. And it's also stupid because on MFD HUD you can see they first go into negative push at 210 kts (while an overlay is showing 9.0G WTF) and then they pull it to 9.3G max at 530kts at 1:36, and Thumper pulls it only to 6.9G at 2:11 not 10!?
oporim 8 months ago
@whiteej21 Its just a low pitched Whirr nowt special to be honest but its special as it can chew through armour.
Hauntedman1 8 months ago
at least they had doug survive in part 3, though damn it it wasnt jason gedric.
TeslaDRay 9 months ago
I wonder why they never used the real M61 Vulcan firing sound in Iron eagle or topgun. In Operation Final Countdown they used the real sound.
revious83 10 months ago
@revious83 Budget/coolness.. they probably didnt got the IAF to fire real weapons for them (except in IE1 when one real F-16 is seen droping some bombs) and probably just used some "archive" machine gun sound.. in Top Gun the F-14s actually never fire the guns... In The final countdown they actually got the F-14s fire the guns and sidewinders for real..
But even in for example Independence Day the F/A-18's vulcans still sound like machine guns rather than a Vulcan..
sparrowlt 10 months ago
╭∩╮ this goes to the 3 asses who disliked
deltaD07 10 months ago 14
How did those migs sneak up on them like that? What, They turned off their radars too? As well as goofing around so close to Russian airspace? What kind of pilots are these?!?
Enforcerj79 11 months ago
@Enforcerj79 They very likely were directed there by GCI.. actually Russian intercepting tactics placed great importance in ground control to maneouver to the target, then turn on the radar and fire
sparrowlt 11 months ago
@sparrowlt Those sneaky little bastards. Is this something the US does? Just curious
Enforcerj79 11 months ago
@Enforcerj79 Yeap, they do it too..
just think that a fighter with its radar on can be easily detected by the intruder... if ground control has the bandit on radar they can direct the interceptors without them activating the radar.. its more sneaky but its quite more safe for the interceptors.. after all you want to be in an advantage when the intercept comes, you dont want the intruder ready to strike back at you
sparrowlt 11 months ago
Great, you reached 10g's - you just broke the goddam airplane...that was dumb. Flying airplanes to their structural limit, just for the hell of it, will get you fired. Air Force doesnt allow pilots to needlessly abuse their aircraft like that.
But I know, its just a movie....and a crappy movie at that.
RoninHawk 11 months ago
@RoninHawk Israeli F-16's. The pilots actually did hit 10g's which was pretty amazing.
Fuunken 10 months ago
@Fuunken - Perhaps, and thats fine, but in the US, if structural limitations of the aircraft define a sepcified g-limit, an aviator would not be permitted to meet or exceed that, just for the fun of it, as shown in this movie. Exceeding G-limits can cause structural damage to aircraft, which limits aircraft service life, and creates safety hazards for one's fellow aviators.
RoninHawk 10 months ago
@RoninHawk True, you can get your wings taken away for pulling stunts like that in the states. Not only that ,but disabling the limiter alone would merit massive backlash, specially since a lot of the F16's are getting up there in age now.
Fuunken 10 months ago
@Fuunken - Sure, we are already having F-15s encounter catastrphic structural failures in mid flight. I think that happend several yaers ago over the gulf of Mexico. One of the aircraft from Tyndall I believe. But no, pushing the envelope is only permitted during combat or training operations, and even then, risk management practices wouldve altered training to avoid it unless deemed necessary. It still all comes down to money. It gets expensive to be breaking airplanes.
RoninHawk 10 months ago
@RoninHawk True. If I'm not mistaken an F15 crashed in Afghanistan last month or the month before from integrity issues. Expensive is putting it lightly, lol, if my engine blows up in my car it's expensive to fix yes, but nothing close to the millions it costs to fix the jets.
Fuunken 10 months ago
@Fuunken - Yeah, I dont recall why that one went down actually. But yeah these planes are getting old, and fighter planes in particular, get a lot more wear-n-tear during the course of their lives. More so and other aircraft. Thats why B-52s are still in service despite being 60 years old.
RoninHawk 10 months ago
Actually it makes sense :D ..
First he was facing useless bad trained arab pilots in MIG-23s.. and now he was facing properly trainer ace russians in MIG-29s..
Jokes apart russians take very seriously their training and tactics so they will allways perform a lot better than most arab (or any third world) pilots...
sparrowlt 11 months ago
let me get this straight, Doug took out an entire fleet of russian MIGs a colonel an oil refinery rescued his dad ALONE!!!!!! AND YOUR TELLING ME THAT HE DIED TO A FLEET OF F4S WITHOUT GETTING 1 DOWN WITH HIS LAST WORD BEING COBRA!!!!!!!!!!! YOU SUCK PRODUCERS
1998pokefan 11 months ago
@1998pokefan I agree man. Bad writing at its finest
Enforcerj79 11 months ago
flight of the intruder used A6 intruder, Top Gun used A4 Skyhawks, F5 Tiger2's,F14 tomcat, Iron Eagle used F16s, iai Kfir / C21's, Bat 21 used O2 Skymaster and T41s, Wings of the apache used AH64 apache, iron eagle2 used F16 and F4 phantoms, I could go on but you'll get bored
igormerlin44 11 months ago
Bye Bye Dag
ytc27036 1 year ago
theses sequals never did shit because they killed Doug, he is the Iron eagle. what the fuck were they thinking!!!
IRAMPAGE23 1 year ago 2
Quite funny that fighters on IE1 and IE2 had the same camouflage as Israel's Air Force, don't you think?
andresrodrigoescobar 1 year ago
@andresrodrigoescobar that's because for the filming of the movie, the IAF lended f-16's and f-4's (in the 1st movie they lent over kifirs)
everythingman987 1 year ago
@everythingman987 While the F-4s were probably easier to lend for air sequence purposes, I'd always wished the IAF would have let their F-15s in on the film; they could have made a much better, closer-looking design "costuming" for posing as the MiG-29 Fulcrum.
Tigerhawk30 1 year ago 2
@andresrodrigoescobar That's because those *were* Israeli aircraft. The U.S. Air Force would never grant permission to use theirs as...well, both films paint Air Force folks in a nearly incompetent light.
Tigerhawk30 1 year ago
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Anybody know what is said in Russian? @ 3:24? I'm sort of curious...
eahsmith 1 year ago
Anybody know what is said in Russian? @ 3:24? I'm sort of curious...
eahsmith 1 year ago
i loved this film simply because it used the fighting falcons over the f14 and i love the little rascals to bits (i know the f14 is the power and their are better planes but i think the f16 just suits my personality)
and the soundtrack rocked 2 lol
spike250684 1 year ago
@spike250684 The F-14 was faster, had more range and quite better sensors and long range weapons, but the F-16 is more agile and had ground attack capability since mid 80s where the F-14 got it 20 years later.. they are not in the same category.. the direct USAF rival would be the F-15
sparrowlt 1 year ago 9
@sparrowlt yeah but top gun uses the f14
i was comparing films not planes
and like i say i dont realy care that their are better planes out their i love the fighting falcoln tho i would probly use the eagle over the tomcat anyway im not comparing catogorys (you could say the tomcats carrier borne so that also improves range) and that the f22 improves on the f15 but i would rather fly th f16 or a panavia tornado ids
just like i preferr the hurricane to the spitfire
cos it wasnt the face
spike250684 1 year ago
@spike250684 Yes, i know what you are talking about.. i realice now that im going to be a F-14 guy until i die.. i can picture myself in the future with the F-55 or some MIG-60 futuristic strange plane my grandsons find awesome and i will still talk "rubish, the F-14 now that was the awesome jet!"
sparrowlt 1 year ago
@sparrowlt im not gonna say it isnt great but im just a sickler for a fixed wing
spike250684 1 year ago
MIG 29's yes and im a monkeys very old uncle the movie is quite entertaining but thats a unforgivable mistake..
Hauntedman1 1 year ago
The limit of 9 G is not the ultimate limit load that the airplane would break apart.
This values are to protect the aircraft structure of a possible deformation/damage due to overstress. greets
Xberto83 1 year ago
whats the song name when he gets at 9.1gs?
ASLAR91 1 year ago
@ASLAR91 is Chasing the Angels - Mike Reno... =)
Azmodor 1 year ago
1:11 - Yes!!! All the fighter pilots are ninjas (when they have their oxygen masks on!)
jethrosesc 1 year ago
I called them ninjas when the pilots have got their oxygen masks on.
jethrosesc 1 year ago
Well where the heck are producers supposed to get migs from?
producers:Mr gorbatsjov can we borrow some of your MiG fighter jets?
gorbatsjov:Like in...........NJET!!!!!
LVCIVSDEI 1 year ago 2
funny i thought F-16C's had 2 MFD's and the A model only had 1, and max G's a f-16 can put out is about 9.3
Shibidibo 1 year ago
Kfir, nesher, mirage....whatever it was. Not an F-16 HA.
santhony74 1 year ago
@vaportrail08 actulley theyd stand no chance lol
caqefiqhter 1 year ago
Best part of a bad movie.
j2times2006 1 year ago
my bad then i realy tought 12g's are fatal maybe i read it wrong any ways how mutch g's can a plain like the f-16 handel before breaking apart and what the limit for a f-4 non specific just any f-4 thnx in advance and thnx for the reply sparrowlt
oscherry509 1 year ago
@oscherry509 The main difference between the F-16 and the F-15/F-4 in this aspect is that the F-16 is limited to 9Gs by the FCS so it cant go past 9G while the F-15 and F-4 are "analog" controls where the pilot moves directly the surfaces and have no limit on the Gs , same as the mentioned MIG25, so in some cases those airframes can pull more than 10Gs, the MIG25 that hit 11.5Gs (i was mistaken, it was 11.5 , not 14) was writen off, the F-15 can withstand for a couple of seconds
sparrowlt 1 year ago
@oscherry509 The modern F22 can pull more G's than the human body can handle. Its been said that we have reached the technological limit with piloted airplanes. Unless we can develop something to protect the body from the G forces you will never see another manned Fighter
daeclipse03 1 year ago
lol 10g's ye right if 12 is fatal what is ten then i think even a trained pro woud black out at 10g's or not? wel if heard that 12g's are fatal so doug hell no u did ten and stil be like whahaha i did the ten lolz
oscherry509 1 year ago
@oscherry509 12 is not fatal.. in the 1st Gulf War , Larry Pitts pulled a 12G split-S to put himself in the tail of a MIG25 wich he shot-down shortly later (after firing several missiles that were decoyed) .. he said that the F-15 was a very strong bird and that he didnt even renember being faced by the 12G because he was full of adrenaline.. so no.. 12 is not fatal in the right conditions.Also there was a russian MIG25 that once pulled 14Gs to avoid a crash,pilot survived but airframe damaged
sparrowlt 1 year ago
after this part in the movie I packed it right to the video store. You kill off Doug in the begining of the movie what idiots, I hope someone was fired for that decision. Well just look at all the series. All flops without Doug Masters dummies.
BradyToMoss1 1 year ago 2
@BradyToMoss1 I remember when my brother took me to see this movie in the theaters. I was young. I wore out the Iron Eagle original VHS tape like 4 times. Then he took me to see this one and I was devistated that Doug died. I couldn't believe it
Rainchild33082 1 year ago 2
@BradyToMoss1 all flops? part 3 was decent
highway955 9 months ago
Hard to say if it's a Kfir, but one of the "soviet" pilots is actually an Israeli.
paradisebeyond1982 1 year ago
The thing that bothers me about these movies is the Air Force would never let some cocky little 15 year old fly a multi million dollar piece of equipment.
th3vikes 1 year ago
@th3vikes Well im not quite compelled to "defend" those movies, but even in the movies they didnt.. in this one Doug was about 20 and allready a full air force Lt. , and in the first one it was Doug's father who sneaked Doug in to fly with him in secret behind the USAF risking court martial if found, and later Doug steals the jets along Sinclaire to rescue his father.
Actually.. it was that reason why the USAF didnt helped making this movie, the idea was just insulting to them.
sparrowlt 1 year ago
If they havent kill off Doug Masters,This would have been a moive...I didnt finish watchin the movie
QUECHUL0 1 year ago
10,5 G's may ass .. they're actually limited of making 5 G turns when carrying ordenance..
01dennis10 1 year ago
@01dennis10 5G in CAT-III wich means bombs/fuel tanks/heavy stores..
Those F-16 looks like are carrying only a couple sidewinders and a couple Mavericks, with that configuration they can be in CAT-I and pull the max 9G
sparrowlt 1 year ago
@sparrowlt maybe it varies from country to country.. coz i've been an armorour for 4 years in the Royal netherlands airforce.. and 5G's is what they always told me..
and btw.. it's a big shame that in every shot the f16's have a different configuration.:S oh well .. this movie feels like 'behind enemy lins' haha
01dennis10 1 year ago
@01dennis10 Wel.. thats why i said... carrying only 2 sidewinders and 2 maverics is more than lighy enought to be used as CAT-I , so they can pull up to 9... if they carried for example 6 mavericks , fuel tanks, any bombs , rockets, etc... they (until all weapons depleted and ejected) would remain in CAT-III conf (is a switch in the cockpit) and cant (or better said shouldnt) pull more than 5G or you will damage the sub-wing pilons (and ordinance)
sparrowlt 1 year ago
I loved the clip of the HUD where it showed him doing a positive 8.8G at 1.27 into the vid when he's in the middle of a negative G dive. That man has skillz to pull that off.
lionheart51288 2 years ago 3
i mean he could of play in a couple more movies but no he had to get shot down
gloomyclatonj 2 years ago
Oh, Doug....so sorry....
01yuukun01 2 years ago
@01yuukun01 . If they had kept Doug Masters in the series, they would have had way more commercial success.
junglemanlawyer1 2 years ago
filmed in israel,
all the manuvers by the israeli air force (so yeah - that is why those planes are f-16, f-4 and kfirs).
kidi1232 2 years ago 2
Shocked to see that they guy from Iron Eagle 1 just got blown out of the air within the 5 first minutes of the sequel :D
MrNiceGuy4TW 2 years ago
He came back in the fourth one. a different actor but the same character. some how he ejected before the missle hit. which is fake bull.. but it was an ok movie in my opinion
krumpboiruthless 2 years ago
@krumpboiruthless I loved all of the Iron Eagle films I saw. However, never seen the fourth one. It's probably horrible, but in a good way.
MrNiceGuy4TW 2 years ago
I was quite surprised to see this also,perhaps he should have restarted his tape player before going into combat as this was his "edge" in the first movie
toddy67 2 years ago
@IknowJohnLear A lot of films were made in Israel during the 80s. Iron Eagle and Delta Force being two I can think of on the top of my head. And both Iron Eagle and Delta Force had some very negative views on the Arabs :)
MrNiceGuy4TW 2 years ago
anyone ever realize that iron eagle 1 and 2 share alot of the same clips of the planes in flight??
motabaco 2 years ago 3
to be more specific I reckon it was the Iron Eagle Movies that had the original footage,and the B grader movies that "used" these same footage in time to follow,a bit like the series JAG using footage from TopGun,Hunt for Red October and Executive Decision
toddy67 2 years ago
Well Im Former F-16 fighter pilot the movies are great lol dont get me wrong. But this wouldnt have happened in real life. One he had his orders. Stay in formation and only 1 minute from US Air space in Alaska. Yes they lock on him but you cant blame them we would do the same thing. But good movie but yes its the movies. Thank you to the video post person pointing out that the mig's was f-4's
godfather1013 2 years ago
@godfather1013 I absolutely hate it when assholes like you pretend to be fighter pilots. Its an insult to all real military personel.
paramedic90emt 1 year ago
@paramedic90emt LOL well Mr Paramedic not pretending. Very happy you have a respect for us Military Personel. Did you want to fly fighters? You can join the military if you want. Im sorry to say but my dream was to be a Navy Seal not a fighter pilot. You should join and you can become a Fighter Pilot thats if its not to hard for you. I served my country now you can join and do the same. Thank you for your service as a Paramedic kid. lol
godfather1013 1 year ago
its indeed one of Israel's Kfirs
MrArticWarrior 2 years ago
man poor thumper why dident cooper tell hime to turn on his music then we woud see him in the movie lolz,
if haf a few qeustions for you:what are those things on the wings that looks like guard railings,what's the top speed of that f-4 phantom,do all phantoms haf shoots in the tail?,last but not least whats up whit the the bomber its like its got a ladder on it? lolz ty
racsojong 2 years ago
They're F 4 Phantom's but there russian MIG 19's
Elidiahun 2 years ago
ok ok, the planes were F-117 xD
BTW anyone knows the title of the song they played in 1:10 - 2:26 ?
viciosogb 2 years ago
it's called chasing the angels, by mike reno
rjpowe2 2 years ago
I love all these people that nitpick the planes in the Iron Eagle movies but completely miss the same kind of detail in Top Gun...It's a movie people,just relax and watch
WackbagChaos 2 years ago 2
encore une belle merde de film de propagande....
Huestacal 2 years ago
AS far as i know all F-16 up to D are limited to 9 , dont know if the latest israel Es have changed this..
sparrowlt 2 years ago
Those are F-4E Phantoms
Gunsmoke88888 2 years ago
lol i think its funny you have to say "yes i know their f-4s not migs... blah blah blah"
its holywood people....
vipervet18 2 years ago
In the same way i think is funny that despite that i point out ALL those details in the video description , people keeps pointing them and blaming one again and again... like if i didnt knew
sparrowlt 2 years ago
LOL We are just messing with ya
Gunsmoke88888 2 years ago
2:25 has a good shot showing the GE engines.
phantomTomcat1985 2 years ago
Oh and...EPIC WIN at 4:46.
phantomTomcat1985 2 years ago
Arr you talking about the radar shot or the 2 phamtons flying awesomly close?
sparrowlt 2 years ago
The two Phantoms flying in formation.
phantomTomcat1985 2 years ago
You can clearly see the GE engine at :42, the footage at 1:17 and 1:28 is a Block 30C, you can see the largemouth intake at 1:38.
The A footage is at 1:49 and a few other places.
The easiest way to tell what was C and A is all the footage of the F-16's carrying single Aim-9's and Agm-65's on each with are the F-16C's. The A's have the single Aim-9 on each wing and thats it.
Hope this helps clear up a few arguments!
phantomTomcat1985 2 years ago
Dunno... the thing is that this movie was filmed in mid 1987 and the F-16C was delivery to Israel in november 1987.... thats what makes it hard to be F-16C footage .. unless they filmed IAF latest brand new fighter just after delivery..
sparrowlt 2 years ago
Trust me..they're IAF Block 30 F-16C's with GE F110-100 engines. They also have a parabrake tail housing which their A's did not have.
phantomTomcat1985 2 years ago
Great footage. Great jets. But as a film, I only went and saw the movie assuming it was a continuation of Doug's story from the original Iron Eagle. It was a huge let down for me. :(
jagoex 2 years ago 2
despite the mis-labeling of aircraft, that is some really good footage of the F-4E Kurnass. Good video of Israeli aircraft is hard to find outside of the IE films.
jhousdan 2 years ago
actually, contrary to the tag in the video, the aircraft shown in the opening ARE F-16Cs. Those were some of the first block 30 F-16C Baraks Israel received. (yeah, most of the rest of the movie footage is regurgitated A models from the first film though)
jhousdan 2 years ago
Sorry but those are really F-16A "Netz".. the air intake/engine is the early F-16A .. and the cockpit is clearly F-16A too (only one monocrome MFS between legs.. F16C had and has 2 MFDs and between the legs its the HSI) and this movie was shot in 1987.. Israel took delivery of their first F-16C in nobember 1987 ..and even ignoring all prior evidence ..i doubt they would use their prime new fighters having "old" F-16A to film a "crappy movie" wich even didnt promoted them (planes are "USAF")
sparrowlt 2 years ago
Actually they are F-16C's. They have GE F110 engines. The Netz use the PW F100 P200 engine.
The footage is a mix of A's and C's, but the majority of the new footage in the beginning are F-16C's. The IAF had 51 or so Block 30 F-16C's.
The reason you see NSI's is because they have footage of A's and C's mixed together.
BUT..the first 30 seconds or so of footage are Block 30's with the "large mouth" intake.
phantomTomcat1985 2 years ago
sorry for the double post but i found the names its between mat cooper and Yuri Lebanov when they are training cooper and yuri do a mock dogfight.
grease509 2 years ago
hey sparrowlt i wonder if you coud do the part whre copper and one of the soviet fighter haf a little duel that part realy rocks.
and thnx for the info on the f-4's
grease509 2 years ago
i love it when that f-4 phantom rols and then breaks away epic just epic.
ps:can any 1 tel in what country do they stil use these jets (if ther is one) i heard germany has some left but im not sure about that. tnx ahead
grease509 2 years ago
Acording to the wiki Egypt , Germany (until 2012) , Greece, Iran, Japan and Turkey all have Phantoms still operational..
Germany have 110 Phantoms operational quite upgraded, Greece ones are algo heavily improved
sparrowlt 2 years ago
man gota love those f-4's to bad they dont use them anymore.
we stil haf those f16's but i dont know if ther iether a or c's i am gesing c's but then again ther locked up good so who knows.besides where trading them in for jsf.
its a darn shame but its the same whit those f-14 tomcats you cant stop evolution.
grease509 2 years ago
They killed Doug Masters :-(
Exverlobter 2 years ago
SPOILER:
Nah he is alive.. revealed in the 4th movie that he ejected in the last moment
sparrowlt 2 years ago
Are you kitting me? I need to see it.
ryn04896 2 years ago
Search Iron Eagle 4 in some P2P net .. or get it.. should be in big video renting stores
sparrowlt 2 years ago
Found the beginning interesting. Doug should have thrown the tape back n like he did inthe first one. He would have made it.
Jerry74 2 years ago
where can i watch this movie free on the internet?? it looks good!
MrSolid95 2 years ago
I remember seeing this as a kid and when doug got killed it just blew me completely away. When the movie got to the end I was still saying....................ok they just killed doug! LOL One of those movies where you want something different to happen. You even think if you watch it enough times something different will actually happen. LOL!!!
vegitausa 2 years ago
F-4's are no match for F-16's. Even 4 on 2 it would not be much of a fight.
typh4u 2 years ago 2
While the F-16 take on 2 F-4s , the other 2 can go away wide and come after them with the Sparrows.. or the 2 "chased" phantoms can lure the F-16s to their non-busy friends ..so no... 4 on 2 is not so easy
sparrowlt 2 years ago
I never said easy. However the F-16 has superior Radar, and Superior Missiles specifically AIM-120D as well as superior maneuverability. The F-16 would detect the larger Phantom first The F-16 then fires its AIM-120's which would have no problems destroying the F-4's.
typh4u 2 years ago
hmmm.....this movie is kinda funny in a way......f4e's over manouvering the f16...., but it can be a good movie
lrecollet 2 years ago
Well, Doug did come back in part 6 I believe it is, where they said he ejected right before the plane blew up, and he was taken prisoner.
AussieCop1987 2 years ago
It's kinda hard to understand this movie's logic... In the first part, Doug was supposed to be barely 19 or smth like that, and after ONE week of training he managed to blow up dozens of planes, sam launchers, helicopters and to avoid hundreds of missiles, what was he then a superhero pilot???... And here, in a "simple" dog fight, he gets shot... wtf??
Haddix11 2 years ago
I supose the logic is : In IE1 he was fighting an arab third country world.. with bad maintained MIGs, crappy pilots wich dont train, shitty equipment.. etc.
And here in IE2 he is fighting the best border-patrol russian pilot aces in new Fulcrums ..it does have a logic. USA raped Iraq and other MIG users wich were not tight in training and tactics, but russia and india rape everyone in exercices because they top train their pilots and maintain fresh their planes and hardware
sparrowlt 2 years ago
if you remeber in this movie they picked this guys because they were suppose to be flunkies and they wanted the mission to fail. sorry, love the vid but still no logic i see in what they did to make a movie. but that is just my thought. it and a buck fifty would't get you a cup of coffee
taformula9197 2 years ago
remember the logic was he and his friend violated Russian airspace which even in today's world is considered an act of war. Unfortunately Doug is killed by the Russians
CoreyD1086 2 years ago
It's a shame Doug Masters was shot down here, he was the main protagonist of the first Iron Eagle, and that Chappy was only a supporting character. Well, it's time for Chappy to take the role as the main character instead...
Ebb5458 2 years ago
the most he pulled was 9.3 g's
sk8allday25 2 years ago
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tubular87 2 years ago
i love these movies. i grew up watching them, great music too.
BABBALOZA 2 years ago
hey man not tryin to be rude but, can you make a version of this with out you puttin captions. i sorta like it better the other way.
michaelmcchill 2 years ago
And you can turn off captions as well
sparrowlt 2 years ago
Chasing The Angels
irfansapmaz 2 years ago
soviet haved e4
ADELIN90 2 years ago
that MIG's look like U.S F-4
Izkzmach 2 years ago
LOL THey are F-4's. You just gotta suspend your disbelief. This movie was made in the 80's. I guess it was hard to get F-16's and Mig 29's in the same place back then. Sort of like if you made a Korean War movie in the 50's you couldn't get Mig-15's and F-86's together.
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