The new 2012 m5 is 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds and it's twin turbo, it broke the world record for the fastest 4 door sedan in the world at the nurburgring the new m5 was 1 second slower than the Porsche 911 twin turbo wait till someone raises the boost on that motherfucker and pulls out a 700 whp from their garage
In my eyes the CTS-V is a cheap alternative to the already established sport saloons out there. Admitedly what it lacks in prestige it makes up in performance but let us not forget that they set out to beat the m5 which is the only reason it does (shamefully so given that it brought a gun to a knife fight engine wise).
I love that everyone is calm and content when a BMW or Mercedes wins one of these, but when someone else builds a clearly better car, every body freaks out. People have gathered such a bias against American cars, and they automatically write them off as worse than the German powerhouse cars, when lately that bias has no grounds.
@freestyle115 It is funny! U.S. built steel has come aloooong way, though I gotta tell ya, I liked'em even when they were vanilla cruisers. But yeah. Asians and eurofolk alike get really pissed off when Cadillac takes 1st place legitimately!
4.8sec 0-60 on an e60 M5? LOL.. almost comical. That is the slowest time given on any reviewer for that vehicle. 4.5seconds is a conservative stat from BMW. even 4.6 would be acceptable.
I assume Eurospec models reving to 3.5k rpm on launch control and a few extra ponies should have better results.
stupid cadillac. that shit ain't fast. these idiots at inside line have been known to be wrong. how sad that they have to supercharge a V8 to even compete with naturally aspirated V8s. get that ugly junk outta here.
@xXxBigxMoxXx Dude, you sound lika 7th grader. Cadillac doesnt "need" to supercharge its v8 to compete with other v8s or v10, they CHOOSE to because it makes sense from a production and cost standpoint. They could easily produce a V8 with more displacement, but why? MPG would suffer. The government is forcing their hand with the new CAFE standards. By the way, the new M5 will be turbocharged, lower displacement.. does that make BMW stupid too? Go read some mags and raise your car IQ.
According to 2011 Consumer Reports, Audi BMW and MB are among the worst in reliability. BMW had 5/11 models scoring below avg. MB had 6/13 models scoring below avg. Audi had almost 3/4's of their models scoring below avg. Porsche was best. 90% of Ford models scored at least avg. Chevy models scored 83% at least avg. 1/2 Cadillac models are at least avg. ALL Toyota/Honda/Acura models scored at least avg. reliability. The "Quality" argument is not so strong now. BTW, I love BMW's.
According to 2011 Consumer Reports, Audi BMW and MB are among the worst in reliability. BMW had 5/11 models scoring below avg. MB had 6/13 models scoring below avg. Audi had almost 3/4's of their models scoring below avg. Porsche was best. 90% of Ford models scored at least avg. Chevy models scored 83% at least avg. 1/2 Cadillac models are at least avg. ALL Toyota/Honda/Acura models scored at least avg. reliability. The "Quality" argument is not so strong now. BTW, I love BMW's.
So what if the CTS-V is faster than a M5 in 0-60 or 1/4 mile...Thats not what german car are for...They are built for topend not just 1/4 mile or just 0-60...
put those cars on Autobahn or at least a 1000m race and you would see whose last :)
Note: The M5 already had a higher trap speed here in 1/4 mile! That means it going to pass the CTS-V soon...
While Caddy beated the M5 with simple technology, it's engine may end up being more complex later on due to the performance wars and environmental regulations. So, it's going to have to go through BMW's, Audi's, and MB's ordeals of unreliability to stay competitive.
I like the CTS-V but the American guy is overrating it. I test drove one of these because of my job. it is quick BUT: it is too expensive, too big to go through NY traffic in the morning, the clutch is too hard, the gearbox is too heavy and the ride's rubbish. So what's left? a quick Cadillac that surprisingly handles very well. It's very good for an american businessman to go to his office everyday but the best 4 door sport saloon that i've ever driven is the Porsche Panamera Turbo.
Ya? why don't you try street fire .net and see the ctsv against the new e63...the new e63amg gets totally smoked by the ctsv. there is no sedan that mercedes makes that is faster than the cadillac ctsv sedan.
Okay. The cadillac is very impressive.. Its a brilliant car there is no doubt about it. But iddd rather have a c63. There is just something about that car that Makes me like it more than the other two.
cadillac has very good performance, but cmon...it looks plain boring. i mean its not ugly, its just that it looks too plain and boring and is totally uninviting for anyone to get into it, unlike the beamer and merc which have inspiring looks to go with the performance. my first preference would be the merc here (can wait for the new 2010 5 series).
let me remind you that the new 4.4 liter twin turbo v is not very impressive and the top end is surprisngly slow, the new f10 chasis is much heavier and longer than the current e60 this is fact. so with a new body m5 u won't see much improvement over 0-60 times or 1/4 mile , if any at all.
@AMGkompressor20 you think bmw is going to create a new m5 with shittier numbers than the older one? if you do you're a retard. They always try to make thinks better, not worse
@beamerman25 and thats why critics in general prefered the old M5 to THIS ONE! but it would be interesting to see the new M5.. But for now got to admite this Caddy is awsome.
@UFCextra yeah no the new m5 with 80 more horse and quite a but more torque wont beat a cts v 0-60. where is your logic. you know nothing about cars. between the m5 and the ctsv now is like .4 to .5 seconds. the new m5 will shit all over this american piece of crap. yeah it does 0-60 in 4.3..... for how long before the engine blows? a BMW is a BMW. A cadillac is an ungraded chevy.
This is a stupid review, biased towards american cars, bit like top gear is towards british and european cars. You can't compare the c63 with the m5, it has to be the e63, but you didn't compare the rs6, but still, i preffer the caddy, i would get one and get a hennesy performance upgrade so it does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds.
Only reason why the Cadillac beats the C63 AMG in a straight line is because it has a supercharger. Which means you can't drive it in rain or snow. -.-
I like the ZR1 sedan, but the C-Class being imported and still less, is a pretty big achievement.
There is no hope for BMW. Their V10 sedan may be the most dependable car you ever buy, but it is also slower than any other performance sedan BY FAR.
I can't believe that GM got rid of the internal performance group that put this the zr-1 and cobalt ss together. I've read that many of the them are working else where in the company. And if I remember correctly GM did this prior to the government buyout.
I'm not sure they make much money with the ZR1 considering that it has the same brakes as a Ferrari FXX (they cost about 15 grand to replace...), the limited slip has carbon plates, their suspension is pretty high end, there are carbon fiber panels in its body
don't misunderstand me, it is a great car but I'm pretty sure it is not making much money selling it and since GM is in the shitter...
Caes like the ZR1 and the CTS-V are "halo" cars. They are designed to raise brand awareness and lure customers into the showroom, where most of them will end up buying a lower-end version (Std C6 or 3.6l CTS).
The BMW M5 was designed and engineered in 2003/04. This CTSv was released in 2009.
The E60 2003-2009 M5 is already a competitor of the 2004-2008 CTSv. To compare this old M5 to the new CTSv would be comparing it to two completely generations of CTSv.
The true competitor for this next generation CTSv will be the 2010/11 M5. AMG E-Class, RS6 and others will be coming out as well. The Porsche Panamera already demolished the CTSv with a 7:56 N'ring time. Reply to this Rodikulus. ;)
Thats my cadillac cts-v there!!! Gosh I love that cars. It really has great acceleration and is better than all the so called "best" companies!! Cadillac cts-v I love you!!!
Ez Target? yes, on 4 yrs technology I would hope so! BMW Leads and doesnt follow. Like I mentioned before, insideline doesnt like the M5. Closely observe the video at 2:09, traction control seems to be on, you can hear the car dies dowm after the small chirp. And the C63 is proven to be an oversteer monster. Shame on Insideline!
The thing about the CTS-V, both this and the last one, is that it is always playing catch-up. The M5 was introduced in 2005, so it is 4 year technology. The Caddy is a 2009. I think the new M5 will be out next year and I am willing to bet it will smash the Caddy. Then in 5 years, if Cadilac still exists, it will be able to beat the M5. Just in time for the new M5! Cadilac needs to lead, not follow, if they want to be the best.
In 5 years, I bet Cadillac will just beat it...barely. And when I say "barely", I wonder if the company itself will even survive, assuming Obama doesn't give GM anymore financial aid.
the cts-v aint playing catchup, the 1st gen V wasnt introduced until 2004, and it was caddys first attempt at a performance sedan. The m5 has been around since the mid 80s. Cadillac brought this one out, BEAT the current m5 and took the place as the best performance sedan. Especially for the money. NOW the new panamera turbo is out and from the tests ive seen its the new king. From your logic there will never be a clear cut winner because of the year certain models came out.
The logic is very simple. Cadillac waits til the M5 is at the end of its life cycle, then "beats" the old car. Mercedes (AMG), BMW (M) and Audi (S and RS) are generally in sync with each other. Their new versions come out at approximately the same time. For example the new RS6 and the new E63 came out this year and the new M5 arrives next year. It doesn't matter anyways because the European cars appeal to those who also enjoy quality materials, reliability and craftsmanship. To each their own.
Cadillac-09, rs6/e63-010, m5-2011, exactly how does that translate into coming out at the same time. And euro cars appeal to those who can afford them, at least the caddy is within arms reach for alot of ppl, plus its been said in numerous reviews that the new Vs quality is top notch. Either way its one of the top dogs right now. The new m5 wont disappoint so give credit where credit is due. The Caddy is one of the hottest, best performers out right now.
Cadillac's image has a long road ahead to climb. BMW has been known for sporty cars for the past 30 years and Cadillac just recently jumped in the game. It's great that Cadillac can produce a car of this caliber but the question remains can they sell it in any sort of meaningful quantity. And now that the gov't has gotten involved the future of cars like this from Cadillac is ever more doubtful. Capt. O wants electric & hybrids, not tire smoking supercharged performance cars.
What a world, where GM has beat this rest, it sickens me. I don't think Merc is gonna sit down for this one, they'll add twin turbos, or a supercharger to their C63, and beat the shit outta that Caddy.
fuck da caddy its still garbage itll break down in a year or two bring that C63 amg black series n i know for a fact the M5 doesnt do 0 60 in 4.8 nigga dont kno how to drive n i seen a e63amg hit 0-60 in 4.3 numerous of times
what are u talkin about man? lol GM cars are waay more reliable (if u take care of em) than Benz's are. I work on mostly benz's and bmw's and i can tell u that they are no where near as good or durable as they seem. Your an idiot if u think this caddy is garbage. Its the fastest 4 door rwd sedan around the Nurbergring and the best handling too.
reliable u krazy its american american cars were good when they in the 60s now they are shit y do u think euros are valued more when they are used u dumb fuck then american cars and same with jap cars far better then american and y do u think they are fuckin bankrupt n got bailed out
u sir are an idiot lol. you honestly believe these stupid journalists that make up ish just to get paid? lol. wow.
American cars last just as long as any other car in the world does. If you take care of em (just like any other car) they will last forever. Chevy Express vans are known to go well over 300,000 miles. Vettes never break down and also go well over 250,000miles. Impala's go well over 300,000 miles. Its all in the owner. Benz's are crapped out before they even hit 100k miles lol
hey smart guy we are talking bout cars not fuckin vans so get the fuck outta here with bs and check this u know what TSB are BMW 3 Series uses GM transmission and you know whats the first thing to go wrong with them its their trans most common problem brand new 328i gm trans only 40 k on its cant shift into reverse or it stalls out cant move look it up on a bmw forum
actually its a modified GM tranny, retard. BMW uses its onw solinoids, syncros, etc. and GM tranny's always last waay longer than what u say. Vettes dont start having syncro problems untill well past 80k miles, CTS's go till around 100k, and all other hydormatic auto transmission go well past 120k-150k miles...i have worked at a Chevy dealership, i know.....so come up with another pointless excuse to say Euro is better than US b/c those dont work lol
and first off Euros are great fucking cars no doubt but not my favorite ok i prefer a japanese cars easiest most reliable and great performance cars TOYOTA FUCKIN SUPRA TT bring your GM really really theres like no point in talking to you becuz u ride Gms dick all day u cant change facts ok i work in a shop we got fords GM cars and euros and jap cars in there we r working a Q45 right not just drop the engine
like i said before, ur an idiot if u believe that journalist crap, so u must be an idiot. Ask any Vette, GTO, G8, GT500 owner, etc. and they will tell u that they will never own a Euro car b/c they are pointless. They jack up the price for nothing more than a badge and pointless acessories. I now work at a shop that does Mercades and BMW exclusively and i can tell u first hand that they are crap....80K miles and they already need a new engine, auto tranny's totaled, rear diffs trashed, etc.
journalist wtf u talkin am talk from experience smart fuck i have a fucking e500 wit 72k on it no fuckn probs ever only oil changes is all i have to do n i drive that bitch hard smoothest AT trans out there for ur info n here in FL noone keeps their vettes after 40 or 50k my neighbor traded his vette in for a G37
how many american cars u have driven in Malaysia????
the resale value of german cars is less than japanese only because of there reliability. i have driven both american and Bmw cars in canada. i know it first hand. american cars do require trips to shops but they r very cheap to repair. BMWs on the other hand requires special shops mostly dealerships and costs a kidney every time.
quality is good on bmws (newer ones) but reliability is NOT
This is sufficient like alot of M's reviews, the numbers reflect the drivers swiftness. the M5 has been proven to hit 60mph 4.1 and the quarter mile in 12.1. road and track, car and driver, remeber these are journalist, not formula one drivers. the videoes gives you a rough estimate, drivers are everything. The advantage to caddy and amg with auto's they simply floor it, the m testers seem to hold the first geat to long, my client says he can do 4.1 on his gutting it.
you are correct...here at my job as soon as the m5 came in we ran it,and used launch control, the m5 did 4.2 seconds....yes I work at a bmw/merc dealership in savannah ga called critz...plus top end the beemer will outrun these cars easily..
Yes! Finally ..... Cadillac has done the unthinkable and let the underdog be crowned king.
Ever since 1991, Cadillac was trying to make a performance sedan that matched any euro car in it's class. I own a Cadillac Fleetwood V8 4.9L and trust me the interior is amazing the power was ok 200hp for that time. 17 years later Cadillac makes this CTS-V that beats out all euro cars that it competes with. I lived to see the day when BMW, and Mercedes got out performed by Cadillac. It's a must buy car.
Road and Track had a comparison of the M5 SMG and CTS-V manual, and the CTS-V came out being called the KING. They each used the best driver they had. Edmunds also calls the CTS-V the KING.
So, the M5 is now the QUEEN. To all who say the CTS-V doesn't handle as good as the M5, check out the patented Magnetic Ride Control shocks derived from the ZR1 supercar. GM has a patent on this technology, so unless BMW has a patent on a quicker reacting shock, they'll come in 2nd. Hail to the KING!!
ok relax...it doesn't matter wut kind of shocks the ctsv has, i am 99.9% certain bmw is gonna trump cadillac again, soon enough. u gotta remember that its not like cadillac makes good cars on their own, they just wait until bmw makes a good car and then they do what they can to compete with it. bmw just sits there and comes up with these amazing cars on their own that become the benchmarks.
MRC shocks are what makes the CTS-V able to hold those corners weighing over 4,300 lbs, which weighs more than M5. The newer M3 weighs alot less than CTS-V, and still doesn't go through turns as fast.
The CTS-v uses tech from the ZR1.The Porsche Panamera looks to trump them all actually, but if BMW F10 M5 is 0.2 faster here and 0.3 sec faster there, I wouldn't really call that being trump for the price difference.
So you need to relax...or better yet "just wait until bmw makes a good car."
hey man, just saying that the latest M car, even lighter than the CTS_v, can't beat it through the turns, then why reason that the heavier F10 M5 will.
But, Ur right. I better relax with the M3 stuff, cuz the BMW fans already have felt too much OWNAGE with this CTS-V.
Neither is the C63 from Mercedes Benz, that has been compared in this video. That was done on purpose to show the CTS-V's value. I mentioned the M3, because it's the best and most recent BMW effort. If their smaller car, which is known for its handling prowess, is beat by a bigger Cadillac, that's HUGE for Cadillac. Major win!!!
The V division was stopped as a cost saving measure, but GM didn't let go of the talent that made up those teams.
LMAO! You guys are insane even bimmer loving car and driver raves about this car! The isnt ANY CAR with 4 DOORS that can compete fully in terms of value, handling, power, and looks. Even the "new M5" cant compete because its prolly onna cost u 90k! CTS-V is the best car on the market currently so all you bimmer/merc lovers fall back and wait your turn...This is one car im proud to say is American GOOD F&$%ing Job Cadillac!
Cts is not a original American cos this car has been modified and tested in Europe and at the Nurburnging and a lot of parts for the CTS are german as well
It's a good car but I don't like when people say it outperforms the M5. Yep, it has the POWAAAAAAAA, it has high levels of grip, but it's behind in terms of handling.
Yea, there's no way CTS-V outhandles M5. No american car has ever outhandled its competitive european car. Also interior. America likes drag, without much interior luxury. That's why they sell fast drag cars without much luxury for cheap price.
Yeah, but for example the new Camaro has been in development and testing so long that it simply can't end up badly. I think it'll be a new era, well priced muscle car with a decent handling.
Maybe you're retarded because I don't deny anything they say in the video and actually I've read a lot of articles to form my opinion, I don't depend on just one show. "watching this" rofl
Credit where credit is due..... that new CTS-V is a monster. I very close to buying a 2007 M5 but the smg is awful. I wanted a manual but (back then) you couldn't get one without a permanently active DSC system.
I bet the next M5 will be more powerful than this 2009 CTS-V but the price difference will probably be enough to feed Rosie O'Donnell for 10 years.
Thats why all the power in the world doesnt mean anything if you cant put it to the ground. Very few people will ever have the opportunity to drive the CTS-V at 190mph, even fewer will drive the Brabus at 227mph. It makes for a fun dick measuring contest for all the YouTube experts, but thats about it.
Have you even seen a Brabus Rocket on the road? How many people do think there are that can or would spend $437,000 on that car? The best part is that its 0-60 time is the same as the Caddys.
i say the merc did very well considering its not in this category and it has 50-100 hp less than the others, btw get a audi rs6 or brabus rocket and see what happens
carfreak have u ever driven a car or are you basing your review on how it feels to drive in your moms ford windstar...the cts-v is giving miles better performance than bmw for 20g's less stop hating on cadillac for no reason
you might be right, about that zonapainter,but cadillac is always playing catch up,they wait until bmw sent the model first,and them they sent there models after,how about they put that same ctsv againts bmw tween turbo v10 that is coming now soon,and you see what happens
Bmw is doing the exact same thing. The new M5 will be a 2011 model so they'll have to years to figure out how to beat the Caddy. I wouldnt get to overly excited either. They're not using the V10 anymore, they're going with a twin turbo V8 and early speculation is that the HP will be around 550. Last but not least there is the price difference. The current model M5 is 26 grand more than the CTS-V. The new M5 will be even more. You can do alot of mods for 26 grand. Hennessy offers a 650HP version.
carfreakkk, they have timed them on a track, it's called the Nurburgring, maybe you've heard of it. The CTS-V holds the record for production sedans at 7:59:32.
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thats bullshit,what kind of test was that,how about timing all 3 cars around the track,and you will see ,which one got better brakes and which one corners better,that where the bmw will kill both cars,
All those cars have more power than you need so unless you're going to race on track, arguing for splits of seconds in acceleration is a stupid thing that Cadillac's marketing experts want us to do.
As a buyer I'd rather investigate the interior quality, susceptibility to technical faults, fuel consumption, NCAP stars and options pricing.
this car is so great, even jeremy clarkson says its better than an m5! i know he can be biased (usually against america) but he has unbelievably high standards, and when a car comes along he actually likes, you know it's great.
unfortunately, a new m5 is coming out next year. i bet it'll be a v12 making around 600 horsepower, and would probably beat it round the nurburgring.
but the cadillac is still great. however, alfa is making a 159 gta, which will have the 4.3L v8 from the ferrari 430
I didn't notice before but... in the other video, edmund said CTS-V does 0-60 in 3.9 sec, as it is in the website... Some stupid person told me edmund uses drag strip to make 0-60 time faster...? hm... how do you argue with that?
well, personally, i think if your gonna test something, you should test it to get the best numbers you can get from it. so to say something like that, is petty and has nothing to do with anything really.
true, but if u think about it...the engine in the CTS-V is just a de-tuned version of the ZR1's 6.2 liter supercharged V8. To keep up, all they really have to do is up the boost or remap the ECU for more power, re-tune the suspension, and maybe even add more rubber to handle the power. GM was very smart when building this new model CTS-V.
Funny thing is... Edmund has been pretty biased towards American cars. Some time before, it reviewed that Mustang was a better car than Rx8 and EVEN 350Z!!! Which is, as everybody knows, absolute rubbish. And recently, they said that ZR1 can beat GTR's performance. Again, wrong, altho this one's quite refutable.
LOL the ZR-1 beats easily the GTR, look at some reviews on the net asshole, and you will be better informed before saying that shit... The ZR-1 ran the Ring in 7"22"4, about 7 seconds faster than the GTR...
It's always the ring isn't it. Because of people like you, American car maker's management team decided to focus only on the ring. If you put them in a handling course, GTR beats hands down. Because the ring has many many straights, in which ZR1 will smoke GTR, mainly due to engine size diff.
u do realize that motor trend did a race between the GT-R, 911 GT2, 599 GTB, and the ZR1 around a different track with way more turns than straights, and a drag race too, right?
So, you're saying ZR1 is faster than GTR. That's fine. Cuz I don't care. What I'm trying to say is Edmund is biased, and I have proof. Why should they be biased in the first place? 1. cuz they're americans. 2. they wanna sell cars advertised in their website
Its the same way with Top Gear, they're biased too. They think that Euro cars are the ultimate cars that can never be beaten by anything other than another Euro car, and i have proof as well.
I agree. Topgear hates American cars. But they don't rig numbers or lie. And edmund is supposedly known to many people as a "reliable" source of car reviews, while topgear as an entertainment show. It's messed up that edmund is trying to make other people believe in their rigged numbers and biased reviews.
actually, not all numbers they post are rigged. the times depend on the driver, and different drivers are going to put up different times, as well as the fact that different reviewers will probably use different equipment as well. but i dont believe that they are lies, personally until there is proper proof
This one review I found was way off. Comparison btw 350Z, mustang, rx8. First off, they said rx8 0-60 time was 7 sec. There's no way they could've gotten that number unless they rigged it. Second, mustang won that comparison. I know mustang has its own merits as a proper American muscle car. But honestly, is it really... really better than rx8 and 350z?
lol yeah i agree, the 350z is a better car than the Mustang in all areas. Its quicker through the 1/4, lighter, handles WAY better, and looks WAY better too lol. And the RX8 is not as fast or powerful, but it handlesa million times better and has near perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and is WAAAYYY lighter and looks much better in my opinion.
Some retards told me that edmund's time was generally faster than the car company's website, because edmund use drag strip. Hell, if I didn't know that. What about rx8?? Mazda website says around 6! In that review they didn't even bother putting up exact numbers for mustang. It just said in the end, Mustang comes on top. WTF?
The new 2012 m5 is 0 to 60 in 3.7 seconds and it's twin turbo, it broke the world record for the fastest 4 door sedan in the world at the nurburgring the new m5 was 1 second slower than the Porsche 911 twin turbo wait till someone raises the boost on that motherfucker and pulls out a 700 whp from their garage
rukeye 1 week ago
Who's driving the m5 Helen Keller?
rukeye 1 week ago
Why don't they test the cheap plastic Caddy against the Panamera turbo s?
therealsatan 2 weeks ago
In my eyes the CTS-V is a cheap alternative to the already established sport saloons out there. Admitedly what it lacks in prestige it makes up in performance but let us not forget that they set out to beat the m5 which is the only reason it does (shamefully so given that it brought a gun to a knife fight engine wise).
Bugumir 4 weeks ago
germans rape american cars. cts v is SHIT
335ipower11 1 month ago
I love that everyone is calm and content when a BMW or Mercedes wins one of these, but when someone else builds a clearly better car, every body freaks out. People have gathered such a bias against American cars, and they automatically write them off as worse than the German powerhouse cars, when lately that bias has no grounds.
freestyle115 5 months ago
@freestyle115 It is funny! U.S. built steel has come aloooong way, though I gotta tell ya, I liked'em even when they were vanilla cruisers. But yeah. Asians and eurofolk alike get really pissed off when Cadillac takes 1st place legitimately!
MrTopgearguy1 2 months ago
All I see is a lot of idiots who bash anything that isn't American.
wasdwasdwwasd 6 months ago 2
4.8sec 0-60 on an e60 M5? LOL.. almost comical. That is the slowest time given on any reviewer for that vehicle. 4.5seconds is a conservative stat from BMW. even 4.6 would be acceptable.
I assume Eurospec models reving to 3.5k rpm on launch control and a few extra ponies should have better results.
NoSurrender97 7 months ago
I have never seen such a misguided test ever, why not put the Caddy against the E63 not the sister C63 and lets see what happens lol
thatom321 7 months ago
BBUULLLL SSHHIITT
highroller971 8 months ago
I want to see them compare the cts-v coupe with the c63 amg coupe
inchguzes 10 months ago
@inchguzes too bad the c63 doesnt come in coupe....smh armature
crazzycris94 10 months ago
@crazzycris94 actually it does later this year. /watch?v=YmAKTYjSRpU
inchguzes 10 months ago
yeah right - and gravity expires tomorrow?
usu15550 11 months ago
stupid cadillac. that shit ain't fast. these idiots at inside line have been known to be wrong. how sad that they have to supercharge a V8 to even compete with naturally aspirated V8s. get that ugly junk outta here.
xXxBigxMoxXx 1 year ago
@xXxBigxMoxXx Dude, you sound lika 7th grader. Cadillac doesnt "need" to supercharge its v8 to compete with other v8s or v10, they CHOOSE to because it makes sense from a production and cost standpoint. They could easily produce a V8 with more displacement, but why? MPG would suffer. The government is forcing their hand with the new CAFE standards. By the way, the new M5 will be turbocharged, lower displacement.. does that make BMW stupid too? Go read some mags and raise your car IQ.
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casualguy393 1 year ago
So what if the CTS-V is faster than a M5 in 0-60 or 1/4 mile...Thats not what german car are for...They are built for topend not just 1/4 mile or just 0-60...
put those cars on Autobahn or at least a 1000m race and you would see whose last :)
Note: The M5 already had a higher trap speed here in 1/4 mile! That means it going to pass the CTS-V soon...
FT86TT 1 year ago
Foreign cars are still better.
modelchic99 1 year ago
Hehehe i hav a couple small power adders on my c63... Anyone wit a ctsv wanna come find me? XD
Calimustang86 1 year ago
While Caddy beated the M5 with simple technology, it's engine may end up being more complex later on due to the performance wars and environmental regulations. So, it's going to have to go through BMW's, Audi's, and MB's ordeals of unreliability to stay competitive.
unknownunknowns 1 year ago
Cadillac is ugly. Mercedes c63 is better
nfsumcp 1 year ago
I like the CTS-V but the American guy is overrating it. I test drove one of these because of my job. it is quick BUT: it is too expensive, too big to go through NY traffic in the morning, the clutch is too hard, the gearbox is too heavy and the ride's rubbish. So what's left? a quick Cadillac that surprisingly handles very well. It's very good for an american businessman to go to his office everyday but the best 4 door sport saloon that i've ever driven is the Porsche Panamera Turbo.
RIOT3223 1 year ago
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CTS-V............BEAST
alphonso5039955 1 year ago
CTS-V............BEAST
alphonso5039955 1 year ago
Ya? why don't you try street fire .net and see the ctsv against the new e63...the new e63amg gets totally smoked by the ctsv. there is no sedan that mercedes makes that is faster than the cadillac ctsv sedan.
AutoEnthusiasts 1 year ago 3
@AutoEnthusiasts the new e63 has 550 hp? a 5.5L twin turbo v8.
stanglmeier 2 months ago
@AutoEnthusiasts Pff. If you can afford the AMG's Perfomance Pack, it will SMOKE cts-v.
EvoPower2010 3 weeks ago
lmfao @ the c36 amg in this category.. try putting the e63 in this class. nuff said.
9MMABOVEYOSURFACE 1 year ago
The Cadillac is just a bit too ugly to be declared the winner, that is saying something because the bmw m5 and the merc c are both ugly as well.
But the BMW is making a new m5, this time with 550 hp, and they decided to test the wrong merc, they should have tested the e63 amg
Mik5OO 1 year ago
the m5 has less horsepower and still had a better speedtrap. Give a tune and it's all over. All Motor baby no need for blower...
nando937 1 year ago
@nando937
Mik5OO 1 year ago
(UPGRADED) CHEVY OUCH!!!
rahquise 1 year ago
german engineering baby
c00smeen 1 year ago
M5 is the best car in this category.
GM is comparing a 6 year old M5 to a brand new CTSv lol.
F10 2011 M5 will continue the dominance.
=(^.^)=
HarryPotterShit1 1 year ago
AMG and M5 owned that CTSv
ZR1Pro 1 year ago
@ZR1Pro: Seriously?
dustinmcclelland15 1 year ago
the cts is the only car worth looking at
Lantho650 1 year ago 16
@Lantho650 dude please
thatom321 7 months ago
@Lantho650 m5 is great too
TD4f22 5 months ago
@Lantho650 respect to bmw m5
TD4f22 5 months ago
Okay. The cadillac is very impressive.. Its a brilliant car there is no doubt about it. But iddd rather have a c63. There is just something about that car that Makes me like it more than the other two.
Calimustang86 1 year ago
cadillac has very good performance, but cmon...it looks plain boring. i mean its not ugly, its just that it looks too plain and boring and is totally uninviting for anyone to get into it, unlike the beamer and merc which have inspiring looks to go with the performance. my first preference would be the merc here (can wait for the new 2010 5 series).
davidhindu 1 year ago
No numbers have been released for the F10 M5, you are fabricated them because you are a pissed off GM fangirl.
The 2004-Current M5 dominated the 2005-2008 CTSv.
The F10 M5 will dominate the 2010+ CTSv.
Sure it will be more expensive, but you get what you pay for sucka.
=(^.^)=
HarryPotterShit1 1 year ago
let me remind you that the new 4.4 liter twin turbo v is not very impressive and the top end is surprisngly slow, the new f10 chasis is much heavier and longer than the current e60 this is fact. so with a new body m5 u won't see much improvement over 0-60 times or 1/4 mile , if any at all.
AMGkompressor20 1 year ago
@AMGkompressor20 you think bmw is going to create a new m5 with shittier numbers than the older one? if you do you're a retard. They always try to make thinks better, not worse
beamerman25 1 year ago
@beamerman25 and thats why critics in general prefered the old M5 to THIS ONE! but it would be interesting to see the new M5.. But for now got to admite this Caddy is awsome.
gmracing15 1 year ago
The 2011 "F10 M5" with 578 HP and 530 TQ
STILL won't pull ahead of the 2009 CTSV
in 0-60, 1/4, or top speed the Cadillac is STILL faster.
BMW fan boy's I'm sorry nothing's going to beat that new cadillac from BMW anytime soon
UFCextra 1 year ago
@UFCextra yeah no the new m5 with 80 more horse and quite a but more torque wont beat a cts v 0-60. where is your logic. you know nothing about cars. between the m5 and the ctsv now is like .4 to .5 seconds. the new m5 will shit all over this american piece of crap. yeah it does 0-60 in 4.3..... for how long before the engine blows? a BMW is a BMW. A cadillac is an ungraded chevy.
beamerman25 1 year ago
@beamerman25 and you know what after about 120mph, the m5 passes the ctsv until top speed of the m5. Then the ctsv would regain back some speed.
LarchaicL1 1 year ago
The Mercedes and BMW are the same models that were released in 2004.
The CTSv was released in 2009.
Comparison to a 5 year old car? I guess that's the only way for a Cadillac to compete.
F10 M5 and next E AMG will dominate. The Porsche Panamera however holds the top slot before the others come out.
HarryPotterShit1 1 year ago
Cadillac sucks. Mercedes AMG and BMW M kick his ass easily!
jawerdenn 1 year ago
This is a stupid review, biased towards american cars, bit like top gear is towards british and european cars. You can't compare the c63 with the m5, it has to be the e63, but you didn't compare the rs6, but still, i preffer the caddy, i would get one and get a hennesy performance upgrade so it does 0-60 in 3.3 seconds.
omendark123 1 year ago
M5 released in 2004, naturally aspirated. Demolished CTSv 2005-2008.
CTSv released in 2009 with a supercharger.
Next M5 not out yet to compete.
New 2011 550i receives twin turbo v8 engine.
M5 will receive something bigger, released in a year or so.
Panamera already took the #1 slot with 7:56.
Stop comparing cars of different generations.
HarryPotterShit1 1 year ago
love the cts hp....but looks like gramma's car!
Diddlen 1 year ago
Only reason why the Cadillac beats the C63 AMG in a straight line is because it has a supercharger. Which means you can't drive it in rain or snow. -.-
I like the ZR1 sedan, but the C-Class being imported and still less, is a pretty big achievement.
There is no hope for BMW. Their V10 sedan may be the most dependable car you ever buy, but it is also slower than any other performance sedan BY FAR.
ScrayXXI 2 years ago
nothing about the quality of the interior, no braking test, nothing about fuel consumption?!
semms like a commercial for the cts-v n not like a serious comparison
and compare the c63 with the m3 oder the m5 with the e63 but not the m5 with the c63!
Kapitalist78626 2 years ago
I can't believe that GM got rid of the internal performance group that put this the zr-1 and cobalt ss together. I've read that many of the them are working else where in the company. And if I remember correctly GM did this prior to the government buyout.
SanFranWay 2 years ago
I'm not sure they make much money with the ZR1 considering that it has the same brakes as a Ferrari FXX (they cost about 15 grand to replace...), the limited slip has carbon plates, their suspension is pretty high end, there are carbon fiber panels in its body
don't misunderstand me, it is a great car but I'm pretty sure it is not making much money selling it and since GM is in the shitter...
Yanp87 2 years ago
Caes like the ZR1 and the CTS-V are "halo" cars. They are designed to raise brand awareness and lure customers into the showroom, where most of them will end up buying a lower-end version (Std C6 or 3.6l CTS).
Halo cars are never expected to make a profit.
Ziggermaniac 1 year ago
love my cts-v
410bigbosssniper 2 years ago
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it just did beat mercedes.
Mercedes got Knocked the FUCK OUT!!
KNOCKED STRAIT THA FUCK OUT
untouchablewealth 2 years ago
cadillac will never beat mercedes.
theres no good in american cars
albanianbenz 2 years ago
your an idiot
410bigbosssniper 2 years ago
Cadillac has always been more luxurious than European cars.
*CTS-V 0-60=3.9 sec** Top Speed: 194 MPH
untouchablewealth 2 years ago
ohh realy?
mercedes benz is queen of the road , even see the price and technology .
mooazz 2 years ago
the cts v looks the cleanest and it's the fastest hands down. mercedes are repetitive they all look the same to some degree.
cky94066 2 years ago
i promise the next M5 series (2010) will beat the cadillac.
The BMW is some years old and the cady is brand new. (a lil unfair)
FFMCitey 2 years ago
the cts-v don't play
m5 not worth the money
veryfast360 2 years ago
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The BMW M5 was designed and engineered in 2003/04. This CTSv was released in 2009.
The E60 2003-2009 M5 is already a competitor of the 2004-2008 CTSv. To compare this old M5 to the new CTSv would be comparing it to two completely generations of CTSv.
The true competitor for this next generation CTSv will be the 2010/11 M5. AMG E-Class, RS6 and others will be coming out as well. The Porsche Panamera already demolished the CTSv with a 7:56 N'ring time. Reply to this Rodikulus. ;)
djinnbladex 2 years ago
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ChynaBlack07 2 years ago
Thats my cadillac cts-v there!!! Gosh I love that cars. It really has great acceleration and is better than all the so called "best" companies!! Cadillac cts-v I love you!!!
autolover55 2 years ago
Ez Target? yes, on 4 yrs technology I would hope so! BMW Leads and doesnt follow. Like I mentioned before, insideline doesnt like the M5. Closely observe the video at 2:09, traction control seems to be on, you can hear the car dies dowm after the small chirp. And the C63 is proven to be an oversteer monster. Shame on Insideline!
joseabreu00 2 years ago
The thing about the CTS-V, both this and the last one, is that it is always playing catch-up. The M5 was introduced in 2005, so it is 4 year technology. The Caddy is a 2009. I think the new M5 will be out next year and I am willing to bet it will smash the Caddy. Then in 5 years, if Cadilac still exists, it will be able to beat the M5. Just in time for the new M5! Cadilac needs to lead, not follow, if they want to be the best.
almasi72 2 years ago
In 5 years, I bet Cadillac will just beat it...barely. And when I say "barely", I wonder if the company itself will even survive, assuming Obama doesn't give GM anymore financial aid.
unknownunknowns 2 years ago
the cts-v aint playing catchup, the 1st gen V wasnt introduced until 2004, and it was caddys first attempt at a performance sedan. The m5 has been around since the mid 80s. Cadillac brought this one out, BEAT the current m5 and took the place as the best performance sedan. Especially for the money. NOW the new panamera turbo is out and from the tests ive seen its the new king. From your logic there will never be a clear cut winner because of the year certain models came out.
pimpinkin87 2 years ago
The logic is very simple. Cadillac waits til the M5 is at the end of its life cycle, then "beats" the old car. Mercedes (AMG), BMW (M) and Audi (S and RS) are generally in sync with each other. Their new versions come out at approximately the same time. For example the new RS6 and the new E63 came out this year and the new M5 arrives next year. It doesn't matter anyways because the European cars appeal to those who also enjoy quality materials, reliability and craftsmanship. To each their own.
almasi72 2 years ago
Cadillac-09, rs6/e63-010, m5-2011, exactly how does that translate into coming out at the same time. And euro cars appeal to those who can afford them, at least the caddy is within arms reach for alot of ppl, plus its been said in numerous reviews that the new Vs quality is top notch. Either way its one of the top dogs right now. The new m5 wont disappoint so give credit where credit is due. The Caddy is one of the hottest, best performers out right now.
pimpinkin87 2 years ago 8
Cadillac's image has a long road ahead to climb. BMW has been known for sporty cars for the past 30 years and Cadillac just recently jumped in the game. It's great that Cadillac can produce a car of this caliber but the question remains can they sell it in any sort of meaningful quantity. And now that the gov't has gotten involved the future of cars like this from Cadillac is ever more doubtful. Capt. O wants electric & hybrids, not tire smoking supercharged performance cars.
soc993 2 years ago
Are refering to "quaLity"? It seems you made a mistake by saying "quaNtity".
unknownunknowns 2 years ago
I think the BMW should win...
yayatCHILLZ 2 years ago
well thiis movie is made in us... c63 0-60mhp can do 4.2s and bmw on dry 4.5 -4.6s so.. maybe cts v has mpre power but it just wont last long
dartasweideris 2 years ago
What a world, where GM has beat this rest, it sickens me. I don't think Merc is gonna sit down for this one, they'll add twin turbos, or a supercharger to their C63, and beat the shit outta that Caddy.
joescion 2 years ago
no matter how many races this limo called caddy wins...i will never buy it. merc and bmw are the best.
zorkor 2 years ago
all of edmunds times are wronge, they also use the cheapest fuel in their tests.
virus626 2 years ago
hahah where did they get 4.8 seconds for an m5???M5 easily does 0-62 in 4.5...what morons
indahead 2 years ago
yea its just the driver he cant drive
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
man fuck the cadillac m5 and benz all the way
bolopoop 2 years ago
fuck da caddy its still garbage itll break down in a year or two bring that C63 amg black series n i know for a fact the M5 doesnt do 0 60 in 4.8 nigga dont kno how to drive n i seen a e63amg hit 0-60 in 4.3 numerous of times
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
gee dude i have a 4 year o;d chevy impala (90,000 miles) and i have never had a break down.
badgerattoadhall 2 years ago
i seen da c63 hit 3.9...lol
Bigfabo87 2 years ago
what are u talkin about man? lol GM cars are waay more reliable (if u take care of em) than Benz's are. I work on mostly benz's and bmw's and i can tell u that they are no where near as good or durable as they seem. Your an idiot if u think this caddy is garbage. Its the fastest 4 door rwd sedan around the Nurbergring and the best handling too.
mtooshort20 2 years ago
reliable u krazy its american american cars were good when they in the 60s now they are shit y do u think euros are valued more when they are used u dumb fuck then american cars and same with jap cars far better then american and y do u think they are fuckin bankrupt n got bailed out
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
u sir are an idiot lol. you honestly believe these stupid journalists that make up ish just to get paid? lol. wow.
American cars last just as long as any other car in the world does. If you take care of em (just like any other car) they will last forever. Chevy Express vans are known to go well over 300,000 miles. Vettes never break down and also go well over 250,000miles. Impala's go well over 300,000 miles. Its all in the owner. Benz's are crapped out before they even hit 100k miles lol
mtooshort20 2 years ago
hey smart guy we are talking bout cars not fuckin vans so get the fuck outta here with bs and check this u know what TSB are BMW 3 Series uses GM transmission and you know whats the first thing to go wrong with them its their trans most common problem brand new 328i gm trans only 40 k on its cant shift into reverse or it stalls out cant move look it up on a bmw forum
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
actually its a modified GM tranny, retard. BMW uses its onw solinoids, syncros, etc. and GM tranny's always last waay longer than what u say. Vettes dont start having syncro problems untill well past 80k miles, CTS's go till around 100k, and all other hydormatic auto transmission go well past 120k-150k miles...i have worked at a Chevy dealership, i know.....so come up with another pointless excuse to say Euro is better than US b/c those dont work lol
mtooshort20 2 years ago
and first off Euros are great fucking cars no doubt but not my favorite ok i prefer a japanese cars easiest most reliable and great performance cars TOYOTA FUCKIN SUPRA TT bring your GM really really theres like no point in talking to you becuz u ride Gms dick all day u cant change facts ok i work in a shop we got fords GM cars and euros and jap cars in there we r working a Q45 right not just drop the engine
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
Book of world records Volvo Honda n Mercedes are in their for highest mileage car ur fuckn dumb no american car insight
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
like i said before, ur an idiot if u believe that journalist crap, so u must be an idiot. Ask any Vette, GTO, G8, GT500 owner, etc. and they will tell u that they will never own a Euro car b/c they are pointless. They jack up the price for nothing more than a badge and pointless acessories. I now work at a shop that does Mercades and BMW exclusively and i can tell u first hand that they are crap....80K miles and they already need a new engine, auto tranny's totaled, rear diffs trashed, etc.
mtooshort20 2 years ago
journalist wtf u talkin am talk from experience smart fuck i have a fucking e500 wit 72k on it no fuckn probs ever only oil changes is all i have to do n i drive that bitch hard smoothest AT trans out there for ur info n here in FL noone keeps their vettes after 40 or 50k my neighbor traded his vette in for a G37
Daon3uwant 2 years ago
I think the Germans are going back to the drawing board with their tale in between their legs!
60NXNP09 2 years ago
I think I just whooped the shit out of a CTS-V in a 335i with a chip and LSD
alphamarquis 2 years ago
and everyone KNOWS you are lying lol
mtooshort20 2 years ago
impressive...
Monger4142 2 years ago
they don't talk about the reliability and the quality....
M5 all the way for the reliability and the quality....
haziqdaF1fanatic 2 years ago
how many american cars u have driven in Malaysia????
the resale value of german cars is less than japanese only because of there reliability. i have driven both american and Bmw cars in canada. i know it first hand. american cars do require trips to shops but they r very cheap to repair. BMWs on the other hand requires special shops mostly dealerships and costs a kidney every time.
quality is good on bmws (newer ones) but reliability is NOT
OmerTheGreatOne 2 years ago 2
haha you are just scared that an american sedan can beat out a german enginered car
adlman2 2 years ago
yes it is and the awards prove it...
912MAN 2 years ago 3
ha ha ha ha isnt that the truth
912MAN 2 years ago
I am impressed with the caddy
nissanforever 2 years ago 3
This is sufficient like alot of M's reviews, the numbers reflect the drivers swiftness. the M5 has been proven to hit 60mph 4.1 and the quarter mile in 12.1. road and track, car and driver, remeber these are journalist, not formula one drivers. the videoes gives you a rough estimate, drivers are everything. The advantage to caddy and amg with auto's they simply floor it, the m testers seem to hold the first geat to long, my client says he can do 4.1 on his gutting it.
AStandardM 2 years ago 4
you are correct...here at my job as soon as the m5 came in we ran it,and used launch control, the m5 did 4.2 seconds....yes I work at a bmw/merc dealership in savannah ga called critz...plus top end the beemer will outrun these cars easily..
912MAN 2 years ago
audi rs6 sedan? twin turbo v-10
fcabido 2 years ago
This video is dedicated to the American car haters at City Tab. Each your hearts out.
melvinifudu 2 years ago
Yes! Finally ..... Cadillac has done the unthinkable and let the underdog be crowned king.
Ever since 1991, Cadillac was trying to make a performance sedan that matched any euro car in it's class. I own a Cadillac Fleetwood V8 4.9L and trust me the interior is amazing the power was ok 200hp for that time. 17 years later Cadillac makes this CTS-V that beats out all euro cars that it competes with. I lived to see the day when BMW, and Mercedes got out performed by Cadillac. It's a must buy car.
Reggie074 2 years ago 2
lol wait what were the track times ???
TroyRx 2 years ago
Road and Track had a comparison of the M5 SMG and CTS-V manual, and the CTS-V came out being called the KING. They each used the best driver they had. Edmunds also calls the CTS-V the KING.
So, the M5 is now the QUEEN. To all who say the CTS-V doesn't handle as good as the M5, check out the patented Magnetic Ride Control shocks derived from the ZR1 supercar. GM has a patent on this technology, so unless BMW has a patent on a quicker reacting shock, they'll come in 2nd. Hail to the KING!!
RODikUlus 2 years ago 3
ok relax...it doesn't matter wut kind of shocks the ctsv has, i am 99.9% certain bmw is gonna trump cadillac again, soon enough. u gotta remember that its not like cadillac makes good cars on their own, they just wait until bmw makes a good car and then they do what they can to compete with it. bmw just sits there and comes up with these amazing cars on their own that become the benchmarks.
hail to the king, alright...bmw pwns all
justforwatchingcraps 2 years ago
MRC shocks are what makes the CTS-V able to hold those corners weighing over 4,300 lbs, which weighs more than M5. The newer M3 weighs alot less than CTS-V, and still doesn't go through turns as fast.
The CTS-v uses tech from the ZR1.The Porsche Panamera looks to trump them all actually, but if BMW F10 M5 is 0.2 faster here and 0.3 sec faster there, I wouldn't really call that being trump for the price difference.
So you need to relax...or better yet "just wait until bmw makes a good car."
RODikUlus 2 years ago
who said anythong about M3. Keep the conversation simple bro, we are comparing 3 cars in same class. Like it or not USA is #1 CTS-V
melvinifudu 2 years ago
hey man, just saying that the latest M car, even lighter than the CTS_v, can't beat it through the turns, then why reason that the heavier F10 M5 will.
But, Ur right. I better relax with the M3 stuff, cuz the BMW fans already have felt too much OWNAGE with this CTS-V.
RODikUlus 2 years ago
m3 is not in this class, but if you insist, well compare the m3 to 04,05,06 GTOs. I own a 04 GTO; and i have beat an m3 on a highway run down.
melvinifudu 2 years ago
M3 isn't in the class babe
Turquoise66 2 years ago
Neither is the C63 from Mercedes Benz, that has been compared in this video. That was done on purpose to show the CTS-V's value. I mentioned the M3, because it's the best and most recent BMW effort. If their smaller car, which is known for its handling prowess, is beat by a bigger Cadillac, that's HUGE for Cadillac. Major win!!!
The V division was stopped as a cost saving measure, but GM didn't let go of the talent that made up those teams.
If your profile pic is you, your a knock out!
RODikUlus 2 years ago
why cts-v beat it on 1/4?
cadillac = pure power
german are out for 2009
JzuS7th 2 years ago 2
LMAO! You guys are insane even bimmer loving car and driver raves about this car! The isnt ANY CAR with 4 DOORS that can compete fully in terms of value, handling, power, and looks. Even the "new M5" cant compete because its prolly onna cost u 90k! CTS-V is the best car on the market currently so all you bimmer/merc lovers fall back and wait your turn...This is one car im proud to say is American GOOD F&$%ing Job Cadillac!
rod110184 2 years ago 4
Cts is not a original American cos this car has been modified and tested in Europe and at the Nurburnging and a lot of parts for the CTS are german as well
Vinialb 2 years ago
every car get's parts from around the world.
the CTS-V and the rest of the V series was engineered by an American team, but GM let them go this year to save money.
they tested it in German because they needed to preform on the German level.
Turquoise66 2 years ago
Germany can suck my american dick!!!!
parekh09 2 years ago 2
fuck bmw
pimptstar07 2 years ago
Not saying CTS-V is not a good car. It's a great performance car. Just stating out the stuff that Edmund does.
LZKS 2 years ago
It's a good car but I don't like when people say it outperforms the M5. Yep, it has the POWAAAAAAAA, it has high levels of grip, but it's behind in terms of handling.
sspope 2 years ago
Yea, there's no way CTS-V outhandles M5. No american car has ever outhandled its competitive european car. Also interior. America likes drag, without much interior luxury. That's why they sell fast drag cars without much luxury for cheap price.
LZKS 2 years ago
Yeah, but for example the new Camaro has been in development and testing so long that it simply can't end up badly. I think it'll be a new era, well priced muscle car with a decent handling.
sspope 2 years ago
Maybe, just maybe you are blind or even dumb and retarded. How do you post that comment after watching this vid?
melvinifudu 2 years ago
Maybe you're retarded because I don't deny anything they say in the video and actually I've read a lot of articles to form my opinion, I don't depend on just one show. "watching this" rofl
sspope 2 years ago
Credit where credit is due..... that new CTS-V is a monster. I very close to buying a 2007 M5 but the smg is awful. I wanted a manual but (back then) you couldn't get one without a permanently active DSC system.
I bet the next M5 will be more powerful than this 2009 CTS-V but the price difference will probably be enough to feed Rosie O'Donnell for 10 years.
Well done Cadillac.
tblack21 2 years ago 2
the M3 should be compared here not the M5
furrybeans 2 years ago
how do you figure?
Rath69 2 years ago
Last time I checked MPH doesnt win races, reaction time and elapsed time is what counts.
zonapainter 2 years ago
The Caddi weighing 600 more pounds might have something to do with it.
zonapainter 2 years ago
so the caddy with 556hp traps at the same mph as the v8 m3 with 420hp.....nice job cadillac!
DONNYBOYY28 2 years ago
Thats why all the power in the world doesnt mean anything if you cant put it to the ground. Very few people will ever have the opportunity to drive the CTS-V at 190mph, even fewer will drive the Brabus at 227mph. It makes for a fun dick measuring contest for all the YouTube experts, but thats about it.
zonapainter 2 years ago
yea but topspeed isnt and its the same to 0-60 cause it has alot of torque so gets alot of wheelspin off the line
4521crismit 2 years ago
Have you even seen a Brabus Rocket on the road? How many people do think there are that can or would spend $437,000 on that car? The best part is that its 0-60 time is the same as the Caddys.
zonapainter 2 years ago
i say the merc did very well considering its not in this category and it has 50-100 hp less than the others, btw get a audi rs6 or brabus rocket and see what happens
4521crismit 2 years ago
carfreak have u ever driven a car or are you basing your review on how it feels to drive in your moms ford windstar...the cts-v is giving miles better performance than bmw for 20g's less stop hating on cadillac for no reason
Frank8982 2 years ago 5
m5 and c63 still look waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better
face it, american cars suck
fuckPS3suckzlol 2 years ago
eat shit & die you euro trash lover
hypnos630 2 years ago
you might be right, about that zonapainter,but cadillac is always playing catch up,they wait until bmw sent the model first,and them they sent there models after,how about they put that same ctsv againts bmw tween turbo v10 that is coming now soon,and you see what happens
carfreakkk 2 years ago
Bmw is doing the exact same thing. The new M5 will be a 2011 model so they'll have to years to figure out how to beat the Caddy. I wouldnt get to overly excited either. They're not using the V10 anymore, they're going with a twin turbo V8 and early speculation is that the HP will be around 550. Last but not least there is the price difference. The current model M5 is 26 grand more than the CTS-V. The new M5 will be even more. You can do alot of mods for 26 grand. Hennessy offers a 650HP version.
zonapainter 2 years ago
carfreakkk, they have timed them on a track, it's called the Nurburgring, maybe you've heard of it. The CTS-V holds the record for production sedans at 7:59:32.
zonapainter 2 years ago 2
Im gonna have to agree, how do they reach 60mph in 4.8 when everyone else got 62mph in 4.5's
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
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thats bullshit,what kind of test was that,how about timing all 3 cars around the track,and you will see ,which one got better brakes and which one corners better,that where the bmw will kill both cars,
carfreakkk 2 years ago
Do your research and dont' go off of opinion. The Caddy does hold the record on a race course.
deezomaxima 2 years ago 4
All those cars have more power than you need so unless you're going to race on track, arguing for splits of seconds in acceleration is a stupid thing that Cadillac's marketing experts want us to do.
As a buyer I'd rather investigate the interior quality, susceptibility to technical faults, fuel consumption, NCAP stars and options pricing.
theTeabag 2 years ago
this car is so great, even jeremy clarkson says its better than an m5! i know he can be biased (usually against america) but he has unbelievably high standards, and when a car comes along he actually likes, you know it's great.
unfortunately, a new m5 is coming out next year. i bet it'll be a v12 making around 600 horsepower, and would probably beat it round the nurburgring.
but the cadillac is still great. however, alfa is making a 159 gta, which will have the 4.3L v8 from the ferrari 430
coolerdude44 2 years ago
I didn't notice before but... in the other video, edmund said CTS-V does 0-60 in 3.9 sec, as it is in the website... Some stupid person told me edmund uses drag strip to make 0-60 time faster...? hm... how do you argue with that?
LZKS 3 years ago
well, personally, i think if your gonna test something, you should test it to get the best numbers you can get from it. so to say something like that, is petty and has nothing to do with anything really.
mtooshort20 3 years ago
I want the CTS-V, but they set their target on a car that came in 2005....
jacksonjw81 3 years ago
Totally agree.
mramadhani 3 years ago
Not for long... new M5's coming...
69DodgeCharger01 3 years ago 2
true, but if u think about it...the engine in the CTS-V is just a de-tuned version of the ZR1's 6.2 liter supercharged V8. To keep up, all they really have to do is up the boost or remap the ECU for more power, re-tune the suspension, and maybe even add more rubber to handle the power. GM was very smart when building this new model CTS-V.
mtooshort20 3 years ago
Funny thing is... Edmund has been pretty biased towards American cars. Some time before, it reviewed that Mustang was a better car than Rx8 and EVEN 350Z!!! Which is, as everybody knows, absolute rubbish. And recently, they said that ZR1 can beat GTR's performance. Again, wrong, altho this one's quite refutable.
LZKS 3 years ago
LOL the ZR-1 beats easily the GTR, look at some reviews on the net asshole, and you will be better informed before saying that shit... The ZR-1 ran the Ring in 7"22"4, about 7 seconds faster than the GTR...
Kamertusbeef 3 years ago
It's always the ring isn't it. Because of people like you, American car maker's management team decided to focus only on the ring. If you put them in a handling course, GTR beats hands down. Because the ring has many many straights, in which ZR1 will smoke GTR, mainly due to engine size diff.
LZKS 3 years ago
u do realize that motor trend did a race between the GT-R, 911 GT2, 599 GTB, and the ZR1 around a different track with way more turns than straights, and a drag race too, right?
mtooshort20 3 years ago
So, you're saying ZR1 is faster than GTR. That's fine. Cuz I don't care. What I'm trying to say is Edmund is biased, and I have proof. Why should they be biased in the first place? 1. cuz they're americans. 2. they wanna sell cars advertised in their website
LZKS 3 years ago
Its the same way with Top Gear, they're biased too. They think that Euro cars are the ultimate cars that can never be beaten by anything other than another Euro car, and i have proof as well.
mtooshort20 3 years ago
I agree. Topgear hates American cars. But they don't rig numbers or lie. And edmund is supposedly known to many people as a "reliable" source of car reviews, while topgear as an entertainment show. It's messed up that edmund is trying to make other people believe in their rigged numbers and biased reviews.
LZKS 3 years ago
actually, not all numbers they post are rigged. the times depend on the driver, and different drivers are going to put up different times, as well as the fact that different reviewers will probably use different equipment as well. but i dont believe that they are lies, personally until there is proper proof
mtooshort20 3 years ago
This one review I found was way off. Comparison btw 350Z, mustang, rx8. First off, they said rx8 0-60 time was 7 sec. There's no way they could've gotten that number unless they rigged it. Second, mustang won that comparison. I know mustang has its own merits as a proper American muscle car. But honestly, is it really... really better than rx8 and 350z?
LZKS 3 years ago
lol yeah i agree, the 350z is a better car than the Mustang in all areas. Its quicker through the 1/4, lighter, handles WAY better, and looks WAY better too lol. And the RX8 is not as fast or powerful, but it handlesa million times better and has near perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and is WAAAYYY lighter and looks much better in my opinion.
mtooshort20 3 years ago
Some retards told me that edmund's time was generally faster than the car company's website, because edmund use drag strip. Hell, if I didn't know that. What about rx8?? Mazda website says around 6! In that review they didn't even bother putting up exact numbers for mustang. It just said in the end, Mustang comes on top. WTF?
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