Lets be honest everyone; even if palestine became a 'state' would that end the violence? Is one more gonna make any difference? Isreal will never fall again regardless.
In my high school to sing I came up with the idea to sing Acheinu in English with the following Lyrics: Our Brothers, The Entire Family of Israel Our Brothers, The Entire Family of Israel Who Are Delievered Into Distress and Captivity Whether They're on Sea or Dry Land May The Omnipresent One Have Mercy On Them And Remove Them From Distress to Relief From Darkness to Light From Subjugation to Redeption Now Speedily and Soon Let Us Say Amen
I agree with you, in israel over 51% of the people (according to a study made 6 months ago) support the creation of a palestinian state, yet i doubt that more than 1% of them recognize the state of israel as a soveirgn state of its own
@sirremor Before 1964 when yassar arafat said that he was a so called palestinian, no one ever used that word. When he said it at the UN most Arabs walked out in disgust. Learn history.
If I understand your comment, you say we should not fight Gaza cause its part of Israel?
In this case I tell you: It is not, or at least its not supposed to be!
There've been great efforts from Israel, from UN, from the Palestines towards making Gaza a separate Palestinian state. Gaza now has a government. Its an autonom state that has fired rockets at a neighbour country.
How would the USA react if Canada started shooting at it?
hey sirremor you better leave Hungary and make aliyah before you can get what I am saying.
Gaza is Israel, we will get it back and live there once again.
The UN, so called palestinians, Russia, Europe, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Nobama, Rice, or anyone else will not tell Israel what to do in its own country.
There is no such place as palestine, no such people. Either you are with Israel or you stand against Torah.
"We can forgive the Arabs killing our children. We can't forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us"
I think thats the main problem. We tried, we faild. So here is the war. We won, but we lost more than 10 soldiers, and much more in the cities in the past 60 years.
I think sirremor is with Israel and not against the Torah. He's opinion is not the same. Thats it!
Zionist Yosef Weitz (June 22, 1941): "The land of Israel is not small at all, if only the Arabs will be removed, and if its frontiers would be enlarged a little; to the north all the way to Litani [River in Lebanon], and to the east including the Golan Heights... From now on we must work out a secret plan based on the removal of the [Palestinian] Arabs from here...[and]...to include it into American political circles...today we have no other alternative...We will not live here with Arabs."
Polish Zionist Yosef Weitz (April 21, 1948): "Our army is steadily conquering [Palestinian] Arab villages & their inhabitants afraid and fleeing like mice. You have no idea what happened in the [Palestinian] Arab villages. It is enough that during the night several shells will whistle over them and they flee for their lives. Villages are steadily emptying, and if we continue on this course --and we shall certainly do so as our strength increases-- then villages will empty of their inhabitants."
Polish Zionist settler Yosef Weitz(1940): "There is no room for both peoples in this country. After the Arabs are transferred the country will be wide open for us... not a single village or a single tribe must be left... there is no other solution."
Thus, the plan continues... Ethnic cleansing is illegal & immoral! Israel should speak up against crimes towards humanity -NOT REPEAT IT! SHAME -what hypocrisy! I wish peace & independence to the Palestinians. We are watching your crimes Israel!
You were talking about a God, and last judgment, and stuff. I responded the same way.
Lets see it from an other way. There is a guy lets call him Yusuf. He lives in a swamp, there comes an other guy lets call him Jacob. He BUYS the swamp and makes it soil. Now Yusuf says: 'I sold it too cheap. Lets get it back' Of course it's not true everywhere, but in most of cases it is. Israel went out from Gaza some years ago. Hamas shot on Israel, and Israel fought back. No one took no ones properties..
This is not exactly true this is from Wikipedia " Zionism attracted religious Jews, secular nationalists and left-wing socialists. Socialists aimed to reclaim the land by working on it and formed collectives. This was accompanied by Revival of the Hebrew language " I agree that there was some people buying , but that was not the usual case , also , if some one did not want to sell , what do you think will happen to him??? This is history documened , no one can change it.
Are these the war criminals? You should be speaking up against crimes towards humanity -Not repeat it! What hypocrisy! If you are insulted, this IS the world perspective it might be different in your fiction-tales. We all know that you don't care what we think, but we all know the truth. Ethnic cleansing is a crime! Israel and the IDF (immoral dehumanizing forces) have violated Geneva Convention, International Humanitarian Law, They have no humanity or human consciousness.
No GOD didn't say to attack civilians. He said that this land is ours, and he ordered us to defend it.
Did this GOD said to the Hamas to take out women and children, and to hide behind them???!! The Israeli army tries not to hurt innocents but it's a war. Israel defends itself. I'm really sorry for them, but Hamas shots rockets on civil places. On schools, synagoges, etc.
Ask yourself, you would not defend yourself, if someone was shooting on you for decades?
By the way , your idea is really crazy about the god who gave you that land, i am afraid that a new cult will come and claim that my house was given to them by some god !!!!!! , do you like this cult to come and take your home and city ??? thats what you are doing..... give some abstract thinking about it...
Do you really think you are pleasing God by what you are doing???
Did he say kill , burn , demolish , attack cevilians ???
If your answer is yes....... You are praying to the wrong God..........and when the judgement day comes and see the fire infront of you he will ask you....did i told you to do that????????????? What are you gonna say??????
To answer your Qs , yes I would defened my self , but what if I took somebodies prperties , now that would be a rubbery not a self defence.
Regarding that some GOD gave you that land , When was that ? are you sure that he said that ? when he gave you that land was there anybody in that land? did he till you kick them out from this land ? who is that god??? may be these orders are outdated , because i think thier are 2 books came after mosus , Review the new updates before you start to kill.
HAMAS حماس is described as a terrorist organization by Canada,the European Union, Israel, Japan, United States, Australia the United Kingdom and is banned in Jordan. The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, is a terrorist organization.Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state. On 18 January 2009, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights reported that 495 Hamas militants were killed. SHOULD HAMAS RULE GAZA AGAIN ?
Lets be honest everyone; even if palestine became a 'state' would that end the violence? Is one more gonna make any difference? Isreal will never fall again regardless.
Dbusdriver71 6 days ago
and screw all the arabs slash terrorists.
alzmoira 5 months ago
FREE GILAD!!!! let us do mitzvot for the freedom of Gilad and daven for his safety and return to israel.
am yisrael chai!
alzmoira 5 months ago
am yisrael chai , dead to all enemeys of my holy yisrael-
amyisraelCahi 9 months ago
gr1014part2 1 year ago
AM ISRAEL CHAI...
May Hashem bless all good people in Israel and beyond !
l'chaim!!
focustnv 1 year ago
chazak, chazak
abovethehorde 1 year ago
Victory to Israel! May God bring victory!
reLive25 1 year ago 2
Comment removed
4oclockinthemorning 2 years ago
Comment removed
4oclockinthemorning 2 years ago
They do not go to war alone. Am Israel Chai!
ParadiseZion 2 years ago 14
Hey Yonah613!
I have only one question: Where does the Torah say that if you are attacked by another people you shouldn't defend yourself?
Whether u believe or not, I'm 100% with Israel. But I believe that we should try to live in peace with those guys who call themselves Palestinians.
saying that there's no palestinians is exactly like what the Arab states do to Israel. They say there's no such thing as Israel.
Do you want to ecome like them?
I doubt...
sirremor 2 years ago
I agree with you, in israel over 51% of the people (according to a study made 6 months ago) support the creation of a palestinian state, yet i doubt that more than 1% of them recognize the state of israel as a soveirgn state of its own
Darksilver4444 2 years ago
@sirremor Before 1964 when yassar arafat said that he was a so called palestinian, no one ever used that word. When he said it at the UN most Arabs walked out in disgust. Learn history.
Yonah613 1 year ago
shalom my cousins
Gaza is Israel.
Yonah613 3 years ago 3
Shalom Yonah613!
If I understand your comment, you say we should not fight Gaza cause its part of Israel?
In this case I tell you: It is not, or at least its not supposed to be!
There've been great efforts from Israel, from UN, from the Palestines towards making Gaza a separate Palestinian state. Gaza now has a government. Its an autonom state that has fired rockets at a neighbour country.
How would the USA react if Canada started shooting at it?
I doubt they would sit in silence...
sirremor 3 years ago
hey sirremor you better leave Hungary and make aliyah before you can get what I am saying.
Gaza is Israel, we will get it back and live there once again.
The UN, so called palestinians, Russia, Europe, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Syria, Nobama, Rice, or anyone else will not tell Israel what to do in its own country.
There is no such place as palestine, no such people. Either you are with Israel or you stand against Torah.
Yonah613 3 years ago 4
Ok, let me qoute Golda Meir:
"We can forgive the Arabs killing our children. We can't forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us"
I think thats the main problem. We tried, we faild. So here is the war. We won, but we lost more than 10 soldiers, and much more in the cities in the past 60 years.
I think sirremor is with Israel and not against the Torah. He's opinion is not the same. Thats it!
roshchinuch 3 years ago
@Yonah613 dude that's okay but what to do there? I have university degree and a good job, I don't wanna be a waiter...
Zahal948 1 year ago
I wonder why did it change in your comment:
"Polish Zionist settler Yosef Weitz"
"Polish Zionist Yosef Weitz"
"Zionist Yosef Weitz"
Is this polish guy everyone? No, not at all. Of course there are radicals like everywhere, but they are at least not shoting DAFKE to the civilians.
You are watching Israel's crimes? Ok, Good luck!
roshchinuch 3 years ago
Zionist Yosef Weitz (June 22, 1941): "The land of Israel is not small at all, if only the Arabs will be removed, and if its frontiers would be enlarged a little; to the north all the way to Litani [River in Lebanon], and to the east including the Golan Heights... From now on we must work out a secret plan based on the removal of the [Palestinian] Arabs from here...[and]...to include it into American political circles...today we have no other alternative...We will not live here with Arabs."
soisthetruth 3 years ago
Polish Zionist Yosef Weitz (April 21, 1948): "Our army is steadily conquering [Palestinian] Arab villages & their inhabitants afraid and fleeing like mice. You have no idea what happened in the [Palestinian] Arab villages. It is enough that during the night several shells will whistle over them and they flee for their lives. Villages are steadily emptying, and if we continue on this course --and we shall certainly do so as our strength increases-- then villages will empty of their inhabitants."
soisthetruth 3 years ago
Polish Zionist settler Yosef Weitz(1940): "There is no room for both peoples in this country. After the Arabs are transferred the country will be wide open for us... not a single village or a single tribe must be left... there is no other solution."
Thus, the plan continues... Ethnic cleansing is illegal & immoral! Israel should speak up against crimes towards humanity -NOT REPEAT IT! SHAME -what hypocrisy! I wish peace & independence to the Palestinians. We are watching your crimes Israel!
soisthetruth 3 years ago
You were talking about a God, and last judgment, and stuff. I responded the same way.
Lets see it from an other way. There is a guy lets call him Yusuf. He lives in a swamp, there comes an other guy lets call him Jacob. He BUYS the swamp and makes it soil. Now Yusuf says: 'I sold it too cheap. Lets get it back' Of course it's not true everywhere, but in most of cases it is. Israel went out from Gaza some years ago. Hamas shot on Israel, and Israel fought back. No one took no ones properties..
roshchinuch 3 years ago 4
This is not exactly true this is from Wikipedia " Zionism attracted religious Jews, secular nationalists and left-wing socialists. Socialists aimed to reclaim the land by working on it and formed collectives. This was accompanied by Revival of the Hebrew language " I agree that there was some people buying , but that was not the usual case , also , if some one did not want to sell , what do you think will happen to him??? This is history documened , no one can change it.
Rayaholder 3 years ago
Are these the war criminals? You should be speaking up against crimes towards humanity -Not repeat it! What hypocrisy! If you are insulted, this IS the world perspective it might be different in your fiction-tales. We all know that you don't care what we think, but we all know the truth. Ethnic cleansing is a crime! Israel and the IDF (immoral dehumanizing forces) have violated Geneva Convention, International Humanitarian Law, They have no humanity or human consciousness.
soisthetruth 3 years ago
No GOD didn't say to attack civilians. He said that this land is ours, and he ordered us to defend it.
Did this GOD said to the Hamas to take out women and children, and to hide behind them???!! The Israeli army tries not to hurt innocents but it's a war. Israel defends itself. I'm really sorry for them, but Hamas shots rockets on civil places. On schools, synagoges, etc.
Ask yourself, you would not defend yourself, if someone was shooting on you for decades?
roshchinuch 3 years ago
By the way , your idea is really crazy about the god who gave you that land, i am afraid that a new cult will come and claim that my house was given to them by some god !!!!!! , do you like this cult to come and take your home and city ??? thats what you are doing..... give some abstract thinking about it...
Rayaholder 3 years ago
Do you really think you are pleasing God by what you are doing???
Did he say kill , burn , demolish , attack cevilians ???
If your answer is yes....... You are praying to the wrong God..........and when the judgement day comes and see the fire infront of you he will ask you....did i told you to do that????????????? What are you gonna say??????
You was wrong.......
Rayaholder 3 years ago
To answer your Qs , yes I would defened my self , but what if I took somebodies prperties , now that would be a rubbery not a self defence.
Regarding that some GOD gave you that land , When was that ? are you sure that he said that ? when he gave you that land was there anybody in that land? did he till you kick them out from this land ? who is that god??? may be these orders are outdated , because i think thier are 2 books came after mosus , Review the new updates before you start to kill.
Rayaholder 3 years ago
HAMAS حماس is described as a terrorist organization by Canada,the European Union, Israel, Japan, United States, Australia the United Kingdom and is banned in Jordan. The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, is a terrorist organization.Hamas's charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel and its replacement with a Palestinian Islamic state. On 18 January 2009, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights reported that 495 Hamas militants were killed. SHOULD HAMAS RULE GAZA AGAIN ?
IsraelToday001 3 years ago