Messiaen - Oiseaux Exotiques - Aimard, Boulez Part 2

[Matthew2649]

This music makes my dog howl but I love it. The male gong player is very handsome.

[kramermilan]

2:44 Did spit just come out of his mouth?

[fran01928374]

what a stuuuuning piano groove... ooooohhh

[veronicayen]

his music is really not easy but when performing it, it's truly enjoyable ^^

[7Beyonder]

this sounds like walking thru a tropical forest...filled with tall trees, waterfalls and exotic birds

[buenobus]

absolutely incredible. such a visual composer; music for the eyes!

[lovesGenet]

Aimard knows this music so well he uses no score apparently. What a special player. I wonder how imaginative his Scriabin and Liszt are. Oh Well.

[IpsaPaphum]

Birdachoj kaj birdetoj.

[pierretang]

1:32 -.-

[lovesGenet]

Macro -micro again. I have owned Gravity's Rainbow since 1985 .Beautiful German student gave it to me(she had a master's class on it) . I read a book about Pynchon , read his short story collection own several other novels of his .Oedipa Maas ought to be in a movie & saw a lecture here about it . 25 years later it is in a closet and still don't feel any compunction to read it ! It's funny i say things here I would never elsewhere : a confession booth.

[logica10]

Interesting finale. An Boulez managed to conduct this kind of experimental, innovative music with masterful perfection. Kudos for the composer and the conductor.

[Quirkulous]

Does this heated debate really have anything to do with the work and performance presented here?

"Friendly" (ahem) argument about something relevant is highly appreciated but I must insist on saying that so much typing in order to establish how intelligent or how stupid someone is a waste of time. Perhaps it would be easier to mentally fume?

[John11inch]

How does one mentally fume? Do they read Gravity's Rainbow and angrily turn the pages?

[Quirkulous]

Yes, though that would be an extremely good start, I would rather recommend an intelligent person having a good read of the Bible and trying to believe it.

Or one could engage in one of these pointless conversations like this one...

[John11inch]

What are you talking about? Are you slandering the validity of a story about a boat that housed millions of animals and that floated around while it rained so hard everywhere on the entire planet that it was drowned?

What scientific or logical evidence could you POSSIBLY have to refute that?

[morvensky]

I think a lot of the bible stories are symbolic. It may have been a flood that covered about 100 miles or so and he had gotten an arc with many animals, not all.

[coldanke]

Or do they read Inherent Vice:

"Th' repossess man comes / Bouncin through that / Win-dow! just / Layin' his hooks on ev'rything he can - There goes my 19-inch!"

[salvadorlaguna]

I can't tell one advant garde composer from another, sound all so similar. Am I the only one with problem?

[paideianow]

Yes.

[StevieLeeRachel]

it's based off of the sounds of bird. tell that 2 them. I'm sure they would understand your language :P :P :P

i love the beatles 2. besides this.

[aslanbc]

lol @ the pianists hair... so heinous

[emperorIng360]

I laugh more at how Boulez' comb-over starts to come undone.

[qtpipi]

Messiaen composed the coolest music ever.

[mbenoni7]

Love 1:04-1:34.

[Bolender]

That perseverative ending has got to be one of my all time favorites.

[helloimapianist]

The composers who last the test of time aren't the most avant-garde but the ones who compose the highest quality music. ie Tchaikovsky, Brahms, Messiaen, Rachmaninov, Poulenc etc etc All of these composers were considered by their avant-garde contemporaries as being behind the times, yet they are still played the most.

[ELPsteel]

messiaen considered behind the times? no composer who's ever existed sounds quite like Messiaen does...

[helloimapianist]

This performance is of extremely high quality. Aimard is almost faultless, although for me his approach is too technical and precise -sounding. I've just started learning this piece, so hopefully I will end up playing it at least half as well as Aimard.

My two cents worth..... originality in music isn't dead, but the attitude that complete originality and "innovation" for its own sake is the most important thing in a piece of music is dying.

[Archimagister]

"almost"? It's some of the most impressive playing I've heard...

[hinatachansama]

0:38?

[thiri1902]

Absurdamente genial!!!

[JeeRant]

What a piece! Aimard's razor-sharp precision as a pianist amazes me.

[micktree]

Messiaen was a phenominon, what i dont understand is how the hell do you write all of this out for every instrument?? it must be a very complicated process.

[antsee]

The video was ok, but the comments are more entertaining. It's fun to watch people argue and ivory-tower and drop words like "plebeian." Please continue.

[jamesaellis]

dont say that no need

[jamesaellis]

whats the full percusion for the work??? i must know.

[swirls999]

John 11mm, you really are a sad cunt.

[melissalemire]

Boulez est un minable sans public qui a été nourri, subventionné et porté à bout de bras par un autre minable de classe internationale : Jacques Chirac. Point final. Il n'y a rien d'autre à dire et encore moins à écouter !

Ce "compositeur", devenu officiel et obligatoire par décret du roi Jacques, n'est qu'un pauvre type pathétique que seule une poignée d'étudiants en musicologie fait semblant d'apprécier.

[atralfalgar]

Tu as totalement raison ! Je ne sais quoi ajouter de plus a part le fait que Boulez doit réviser ce qu'ait la beauté !

[TikhvinGarden]

Dis is mint! Pierre-Laurent Aimard iz da metronome no? It's is all well colourfull like real refined and amiable. :D

[John11inch]

All in all, Messiaen is certainly a great composer and one of the masters of the post-darmstadt era, but his music is actually fairly unimportant in the scheme of things as far as the development of music with the exception of his work with serialism, which was already being taken well beyond his interest by his kinsman Pierre Boulez. His main footprint was his teaching. Should I list some of his students? Try Stockhausen and Xenakis, donkey.

[QueFumas]

Personally, I don't think that this piece is any more 'academic' than most older classical pieces. I don't think the composer was concerned at all about being academic. I enjoyed this video very much, in a completely non-academic way, maybe you can't believe it but to me it sounds very good. If you don't like it just say so, saying the composer paid no attention to it sounding good is completely incorrect. This piece is very beautiful, maybe try to re-listen to it with a more positive attitude.

[GreggaryPeccary]

I was referring to a guy called john11inch, who said this music was "unimportant" in the scheme of things, because from a technical standpoint the "innovations" in this piece weren't as radical as those of some of his contemporaries. Music shouldn't be judged from this chronophile, musico-theoretical standpoint, but by HOW IT SOUNDS, and this SOUNDS GOOD! Just 'cause you juggle your notes in a certain, "new" way, doesn't mean it sounds "better". This is actually my favourite Messiaen-Piece.

[QueFumas]

Oh, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding! I completely agree that music shouldn't be judged by how radical it is. I like Messiaen very much, as well as Xenakis, both are great. Also it should be kept in mind that Messiaen was earlier. I have less of a problem with John11inch's opinion than with the manner he states it in (insults). That is not the way to convince anyone that there is any logical reasoning behind his opinion.

[John11inch]

I don't even know what you're "dissenting" against.

But since you're too stupid to know what "dissent" means, apparently, I doubt you're worth my time.

[John11inch]

I don't remember seeing those comments; just some stuff posted on my user page that was so idiotic I've apparently blocked it from my memory, because I don't even remember what you said, other that whining and bitching that I blocked you.

Anyway, my elitism is not due to delusions of self-grandeur; in most cases, as it would be in this one, it is fully appropriate 8)

[John11inch]

I just bought my own house. It's an older house, so there is a bit of work to be done (like the attic needs central air/heat and insulation, for instance) but it's fairly spacious. I'm decorating it in a sort of, outside-comes-in Zen look; lots of natural wood grain, in the process of having the Berber replaced with lime stone flooring in the den and hardwood elsewhere. It has a general motif of black and bone (I'm passing on a heavier, oriental feel though), and I'm giving each room [cont]

[John11inch]

its own, different accent color scheme. For instance, my bedroom I'm doing with jade accents, the kitchen I'm doing with brick accents, the living room I'm actually doing with a bubblegum accent scheme etc. It had a screen porch but I had it glass/blinded in on Thursday. It will be a few months before I'm finished though.

Wait, did you say something about music somewhere in there, or did you just make random, juvenile, derogatory accusations about my personal life?

[John11inch]

I play poker online. Ask JRE, the guy whose video thread you're spamming atm; he's seen me playing 50/100NLHE

[KNOWYOUNOW]

You are the idiot screw you.

[GreggaryPeccary]

I know. I suck

[paideianow]

Shut up.

[John11inch]

Zing!

"John11inch (10 months ago)" is what you're responding to. That's really, really, REALLY fucking sad you still care. Glad I could effect your life so much.

[paideianow]

Yes. I read it 10 months ago and responded only now. Idiot.

[John11inch]

Like I said, I'm just glad I could write something you would remember 10 months later. That really speaks to my ability to effect your life.

[paideianow]

Actually it speaks to your inability to detect sarcasm. Jerk.

[John11inch]

You responding to something 10 months after the fact correlates to my ability to detect sarcasm?

Wow, you operate on a very high plane, don't you?

[paideianow]

Actually it's quite simple. It isn't 10 months after the fact given that I read your post just today. So, again, shut up.

[John11inch]

Oh, that doesn't make much sense. Because if I said it 10 months ago, we can assume I had "shut up".

So I either have a huge effect on your life or you're really dumb =) It's your choice. Just tell us all which one it is. I mean like, this is without getting into the fact that you have nothing to do with the conversation (that ended 10 months ago, and most of which is missing), as well as having nothing to contribute, probably due to an inability to contribute.

[paideianow]

Well, I couldn't tell you to shut up 10 months ago given that I haven't read your pretentious crap back then. Right? Well, I'm telling you know: shut up, you pompous little ass. Thank you.

[John11inch]

Why am I pompous? Because I know what I'm talking about? <:

[morvensky]

I think he thinks your pompous because of the way you convey your knowledge and your new profile description.

[paideianow]

No, because you fail to realize no one gives a shit.

[John11inch]

I get the impression that people who are discussing a subject with me are interested in the subject.

[paideianow]

True. But as you can tell I'm not discussing anything with you. I'm just telling you to shut up.

[John11inch]

Oh, then you're just being useless.

[paideianow]

Only as much as you.

[coldanke]

Well, if he finally demonstrated some knowledge on music (instead of simple repeating silly insults), we'd finally might get the impression that you know what you are talking about. The only posts I read by John1inch, exist only of insults and anger.

Not qualities of encyclopediac knowledge about contemporary art and music.

(By the way: I adore Pynchons books, but never have had a nice conversation with him) Do you believe me? ;-)

[Bolenderable]

I would like to see people stop picking on John11inch. If you visit his site, you will find he has posted a large amount of music much of it very rare and quite interesting.

[John11inch]

Don't worry about it; I bring it on myself rather purposefully. Helps me weed out the people that understand that (people I'm interested in talking to) from the people that don't (people who I'm not interested in talking to).

People also don't like it if you tell them you're smarter than them, whether or not it's true. But some people bring *that* on themselves <:

[John11inch]

Thanks for the sentiment, though. Appreciated.

[John11inch]

And if you want, I will be REALLY specific, dumbass. To elaborate; Hindemith used a tone system based on fifths instead of thirds pre-Messiaen. Messiaen primarily used parallel 2nd/9th-acciaccaturi chords as a base harmony with angular counterpoint (a la Bartok, who pre-dates Messiaen) coupled with gestalted passages (a la Schoenberg, who predates Messiaen) which were often based on bird-songs (such an innovation! Oh wait, birds came up with those). [cont.]

[John11inch]

Oh also your post was so retarded it blinded me to the fact that you said they "just sit down and pluck things out and decide if they like them". That statement is irrefutable evidence you have absolutely no knowledge what-so-ever as to how Stochastic, Spectral and New Complexity music is composed, and thus you are hyper-unqualified to make any judgement on composers of those schools.

[organman52]

You - 11 inch - have no idea what you're talking about. You are delusional. If you believe all the crap that you have spewed to organboi, then you belong with the individuals who you believe are 'composers' - in a mental institution. Unfortunately, the world is full of idiots like you. You talk a fast line, but have nothing to back it up.

[John11inch]

The similarity in your usernames is comically conspicuous; are you "coming to the rescue" of your stupid 15 year old kid or something? Or, more likely, you're the same idiot. Talk about lack of substance; you didn't say anything to refute a single point I made; only accosted me for being "stupid", which here is apparently synonymous with "knowledged", then hypocritically and futily attack me for my "lack of substance" when in fact I cited numerous, specific exmaples. [cont.]

[John11inch]

You lack the intellect, vocabulary, musical knowledge, emotional ambivalence and ruthlessness to even being to conceive to attempt to speak to me in the manner you are at the moment. Your inability to recognize composers that MESSIAEN HIMSELF considered geniuses as anything but people who deserve to be in mental institutions should clue you in as to how out of your depth you are in this conversation, tool.

[John11inch]

Why don't you just ask what the person who posted this video thinks of Xenakis and Finnissy? I happen to have known him for several years and I would expect you to continue to be verbally accosted when he wakes up for your ridiculous and purile "comments", although I dare say the word comment is perhaps too generous for what is more appropciately labeled as "vocal excriment".

[John11inch]

Absolute Serialism (look it up you probably don't even know what it is) is apparent in Barraque's Sonate pour piano and Boulez's Deuxieme sonate pour piano before Messiaen ever did anything serious with it (there is an argument that it is utilized in certain parts of the Quatre Etudes but this is highly contested). So tell me, how was Messiaen an innovator?

[organman52]

It sounds like someone has feelings of inadequacy - especially with an insane name like john 11 inch. Therefore, anything and everything you say is of no value. If you only KNEW the magnitude of the musicianship of both myself and yes - my close colleague organboi. But I am not going to waste my time informing you of any of this, let alone continuing in this nonsensical interchange. One more thing - your foul mouth matches your 11 inches, most likely.

[John11inch]

Really? Please point me in the direction of some of your playing, organboi.  Also, would you like to see some of my letters of recommendation from composers you would be lucky to lick the shoes of for my portfolio which I intend to soon submit to the likes of Curtis (and I fully expect to get in, considering I have regular correspondence with Peter Serkin)? My safeties are Stanford and Illinois. And I will again point out you are incapable of responding to anything I said due to lack of know.

[organman52]

They are not composers - if they are alive. The evolution of music has ceased decades ago. Get THAT into your brain, if possible. There is no longer such a thing as originality. And about those schools - I LEFT college teaching because the current generation is not interesting in musical KNOWLEDGE and SKILLS. So GO to your big name schools and become the next Beethoven. And DO keep name dropping - a sure sign of self-confidence.

[GreggaryPeccary]

Weak battle on your part, organman.

[organboi]

awesome modern music. Messiaen, the last of the greats.

[John11inch]

Uh... you've got another one of the greats standing on the pedium right there. Not to mention the late, great(s) Stockhausen, Berio, Nono and Xenakis. And how bout Ferneyhough, Boucourechliev, Bussotti, Sciarrino, Murail, Finnissy etc.

[organboi]

wrong, perhaps boulez but certainly not those others you mention, most of the them totally unknown and deservedly so. they are contrivers, not composers. they are copiers. Messiaen was a true original. he heard the music before writing it. the others just sit down and pluck things out and decide if they like it or not. you are obviously a modern music enthusiast but Messiaen does not belong in the group you mention. and consider when Messiaen came in the whole time picture. thanks mr. 11 inch.

[John11inch]

What the hell are you talking about??? I don't even know WHERE to begin responding to this gross and ferociously offensive pile of idiocy and bigotry (that's right; I said bigotry. You're just as bad as someone who only listens to baroque music and calls anything that has the slightest bit of dissonance, angularism or atonality "not music"; move forward with the times mister "boi") The only circle that composers like Stockhausen, Berio or Xenakis are unknown in is that of blatant ignorance.

[John11inch]

Also, what merits do you qualify Messiaen as a "Great" composer on? Being an innovator? If so you're quite mistaken; Boulez was doing what he was "innovative" for before him (and don't try to cite me that Quatre Etudes nonsense because that's a ridiculous argument) and then before either of them there was Jean Barraque, but I doubt you even know who he is. Well composers like Xenakis, Bussotti and Ferneyhough or Vivier (just grouping him with Murail; again, assume you don't know why) [cont.]

[John11inch]

were all certainly far more innovative than the certainly special but far-from-new tone structure of Messiaen. Take a look at Hindemith, one of his contemporaries, whose structural avant-gardism and technique vastly overshadow Messiaen's. Just because a composer perhaps doesn't write music in a fashion you don't agree with (or more likely, understand) does NOT give you the right to try to abase them; the fact is, Stockhausen (along with, say, Globokar) is the master of avant-gardism [cont.]

[John11inch]

Is/was the master of avant-garde composition (although I will admit I don't particular like a lot of his work and feel it is too indulgent; especially the Licht Cycle), Bussotti was THE voice for aleatoric music in his day (do you like Penderecki? If so you have Bussotti to thank, oh and not to mention even more fierce about his homosexuality than Cage, and considering your username it's a foregone conclusion that you should be able to respect that) and Vivier's and Murail's spectral [cont.]

[John11inch]

and the likes of Ferneyhough, Dillon and Finnissy are also far more innovative than Messiaen. I can't believe you would call them "copiers". That is so ludicrous and ignorant! I DEFY you to show me a composer preceeding Xenakis, Vivier or Bussotti that was doing the same things they were. You will come up short. Now, is it his compositional technique? I doubt anyone here would be stupid enough to say that he didn't have a prodigious technique in regards to Orchestration, Piano [cont.]

[John11inch]

and counterpoint, but that is like comparing... say... an apple and a Ferrari. They are so utterly and completely unrelated it is pointless to try to compare Xenakis to Ferneyhough to Boulez to Messiaen, just like it would be ludicrous to compare Michelangelo with Kandinsky or James Joyce with Socrates. If you feel there is an inferior FORM of art then you are, as I said, a bigot to modernism. I have news for you: MESSIAEN IS NOT MODERN. He's only modern to plebeians like you, so plz stfu

[GreggaryPeccary]

poothead! sorry, that point goes to mr.11inch.

Stay in your dusty old church, organboi

[GreggaryPeccary]

So good...

[NelsonWiddle]

.....mooWherrrhhhh

[patrissimo]

This piece must be very demanding to play.

[jre58591]

you bet it is. its a workout just to read through the full score with the music playing!

[pedrobesteiras]

It's very strange for me, used to less early music...

But I do hear respectfully and try do understand

[nadyart]

Could I know when and where was this concert?

[finnishredder]

this is such great music and what a great performance, thanks for uploading the clip!

[jannokas85]

This is pretty amazing music...why do they have to charge so much for the score? They're greedy b*stards really...aren't they...the publishers.

[jre58591]

yeah, its a shame that a lot of good modern music is so expensive, but the living and recently deceased need their royalties.

[dazamaru]

Im really pissed...cause our classical music station in Philly never plays anything like Messiaen, or any music that is daring, new and fresh.

Just the same old repeats of Bach, Brahms, and Schubert crap.

Thank you jre58

[SecretTheatre]

I would hardly describe Bach, Brahms and Schubert as crap.

[jre58591]

sometimes it is good to hear some messiaen and other things like that though. bach, brahms, and schubert get old fast.

[qtpipi]

I would call Messiaen more modern than abstract. Serialism/12 tone stuff is much more abstract than this.

[Sinfoniahorn]

I think we just have different definitions at work here. I was comparing Messiaen to the likes of Justin Timberlake and Coldplay. Levels of abstractness are relative. I am in agreement with you regarding serialism.

[SecretTheatre]

Messiaen took many of the ideas of serialism and developed them in his pieces in the 50s and 60s. Total serialists like Boulez (the conductor for this) and Stockhausen were his pupils.

[webernlover]

Why would you randomly post this information on here when no one even asked? Not only is it vague, but if no one asked you're just promoting elitist, self-serving principles. If someone wants a modern music lesson, they'll ask. Also, if we're watching this we probably know that basic information. PS--I totally agree that Bach, Brahms, and Schubert are NOT crap...what pretentious bs for someone to write!

[webernlover]

This was in response to "secrettheatre"'s history lesson below.

[SecretTheatre]

Well I wasn't just 'randomly' posting a music history lesson. I was responding to the suggestion that Messiaen's (post war) music and High Serialism are fundamentally different. I'm sorry you found what I wrote vague, it's hard getting anything more than general comments in these tiny boxes. And I'm not elitist, I wish everybody would appreciate this music.

[webernlover]

That's great to hear! I also wish everyone would appreciate this music. I find myself arguing with my fellow musicians often about the value of this music...and as much as I enjoy arguing, it's frustrating how narrow-minded even my best musician-friends can be!!!

[SecretTheatre]

Well good - perhaps my previous comments gave the wrong impression (easily done on YouTube!). And I see by your username that you are a Webern appreciator - as am I.

[iwanttowatchsomethin]

I think Boulez argued against the characterization that he was practicing total serialism. Rather he extended serialism to additional parameters beyond pitch. I broke these principles when it served him to do so, or would serialize certain parameters at certain times, but not all of them. Anyway, I love Messiaen. This piece amazes me.

[qtpipi]

I wouldn't call Messiaen abstract.

[Sinfoniahorn]

Compared to popular music of the time, or today, it is quite abstract. Pretend you arent talking to "classical" music enthusiasts.

[Sinfoniahorn]

It is just bizzare music. To those that say its just noise, make no mistake, you cant write this stuff by accident. It is very methodically written and makes sense if you understand the theory behind it. Still, not the easiest thing to listen to. It is music for musicians more than anything. Abstract, impressionistic, and hard as heck to pull off. They performed it brilliantly.

[jre58591]

i would disagree with that. This music must not be for musicians only, for a performance of it won a grammy for "best piece for solist and orchestra". that shows that common people like it as well. also, i have played this for common folk, and most seem to like it.

[Sinfoniahorn]

Well, I didnt say for musicians only, and winning a grammy award doesnt mean that the majority of people like it. It won for its category, and I assure you it wasnt on the mainstream broadcast. However, I am thrilled that "common folk" as you describe them liked it. It isnt easy music to listen to. Just turn on your local popular radio station...

[jre58591]

actually, my local radio station plays éclairs sur l'au de-là on the radio two nights ago. so, mine apparently isnt your average one.

[Sinfoniahorn]

If your local "latest hits" or R&B station played Messiaen then I am most impressed. If your local classical station played it, well then, that is to be expected.

[jre58591]

well, if my local latest hits or r&b station were to play mozart or bach, i would be impressed, naturally.

[Sinfoniahorn]

Im glad that people do enjoy it. They should. Its great music, just not the most accessible music. Winning a Grammy however doesnt mean that the mass population votes for it. Thats not how Grammy's are won.

[SecretTheatre]

It might surprise you that much of what you are listening to in this piece is transcribed birdsong.

[Sinfoniahorn]

I have read about that. In the piano score I believe it mentions where the song of each bird is being portrayed.

[webernlover]

Totally agreed! Although, I think some non-musicians may also find it quite intriguing.

[globalmuse]

This is an incredible performance. Aimard really has a genius-level ability, and to play this with such conviction and from memory!

[iwanttowatchsomethin]

He is just incredible, and on youtube, thankfully, there are many opportunities to hear him play Messiaen and Boulez, as well as opportunities to hear other interpreters. Invariably, I prefer Aimard's. I'm so pleased that people enjoy this music.

[20Regards]

Now, we can only pray that PLA, Boulez, EIC, record this piece ... (At least, there is a superb recording of "le réveil des oiseaux", ...)

[esojbar]

Yes, there are very good musics of the 20th century and this one is an example. About influences, it (for me)sounded a little bit like "Le Sacré du Printemps" (Stravinsky)in its orchestral part.

[maddpianist]

Who do you suppose his influences were? It's hard to see Bach or Beethoven being of inspiration. It's so different...like music from another planet or something. It goes against all the basic needs that most people have to enjoy a piece; rythm, melody, harmony...what does the music have that can pull at a person's heart?

btw you should get quartet for the end of time up here, if you can. That-oddly enough-I have some appreciation for.

[GreggaryPeccary]

His influences were, as always, the birds and their song, the gamelan-orchestra from java and probably some other composers i can't recall

[twisty26]

Post more! This is fabulous!

[muslit]

i love this music - one of my favorite pieces of m - such an original voice - 31 repetitions of that last beautiful chord!

[Pianowrestler]

You're right, I also counted 31 final chords! Fantastic performance, I heard Aimard (who looks a bit like a nephew of Alfred Brendel) life a couple of years ago in the 12 études of Ligeti - that was also quite an experience!

[Rogo64]

31 is right. And intuitively correct too, in order to end the piece convincingly. 30 won't work, 32 won't work. Try it. You know you have to stop at 31!

[muslit]

it's the set-up that counts - 5 beats of silence - then a rotation of 3 chords repeated exactly twice (6 beats), then an attempt at another rotation of the three chords, but with the last chord conspicuously missing (two beats), then 31 repetitions of a new chord - it's that the one rotation of only two chords which sets the 31 in motion -

[iwanttowatchsomethin]

Yes, it is such a strange choice for the composer to make. It seems strange. Well, it's such a surprise, really, that such a wild ride would end this way. You guys got me counting to 31, too. LOL

[vaitrucci]

Superb video, makes me want to buy some cds of his.

[jre58591]

please do. messiaen is very underappreciated. hes definitely one of the best of the 20th century.

[emtube]

A terrific gift for us (unfortunately all to few?) Messiaen fans!

[jre58591]

ill see if i can get some more messiaen vids uploaded. its nice to know hes appreciated here!

[wbarco]

if you could post some more messiaen that would be so awesome. definitley undervalued (unsurprisingly) on youtube.

[emtube]

I look forward to any Messiaen you are willing to post!

There is something about his music that seems to short-circuit the judging intellect and communicate directly and deeply.

I felt the same directness viewing paintings by Roger Bacon (although the content of the message is quite different).

[jre58591]

ill probably post a few more from the vingt regards (if they fit within the 10 minute limit) and a few orchestral pieces maybe (extracts due to length).

[a1s2d3f4g5q1w2e3]

10 minute limit is just a precaution - it's 100MB that's the limit

[daeviydt]

Please add my name to the petition of people who want to see much more Messiaen on Youtube!

[Rogo64]

Ditto.

[suasoires]

thanks a lot!