Fuck, I watch again and again these videos and I ask myself WHY this band never had the recognition they really deserved back in the day!. They were awesome all four; Tore, Roy, Ingar & Arve!!!. Beyond of any comparison, personally like more Khan with Conception than with Kamelot, even I like Kamelot's music, but what they did on this band was really cool!.
Roy Khan is awsome. It's so shit that this men was going to Kamelot. Kamelot is awesome to with him. But he is leavy the groep. I've cried 3 days it's so stupid
Khan still hit his high notes, just because they arent as high as they were during the times of Conception doesn't matter. They are still high notes none the less. No one knows the reason why Khan quit hitting those notes as high as he used to, but I am pretty sure it could have revolved around his age or maybe just getting tired of straining his voice. Any singer needs a good voice for tours, too many high notes over and over again can harm you. I know, I am a singer myself.
@Theyzenski actually, his high notes (the ones that resemble screaming) are a combination of his real voice and falsetto, so it is of no harm to his vocal chords. I just think his range has dropped...
@reaponja It did. I agree, his range did drop. But maybe thats because he has strained his vocal chords during many concerts. What's for sure, newer albums of Kamelot are sang much lower. Compare Fourth Legacy with Poetry for the poisoned. He's getting old... Like Rob Halford, he still rocks but does not hit the hights anymore :(((
@Rotceev Yup he did lose his range,but personal opinion his tone got beter as the albums went on.The way his voice sounds on the black halo,ghost opera and PftP was great.
@TheJontslayer cant they both be awesome? lol, cuz they really are. i mean, ostby is great and all, but alot of that is that he worked with great vocalists like Roy Khan (as well as Jorn Lande, whos certainly no Khan, but hes certainly good), and i think they just compliment each other really well.
Kamelot is kind of a joke next to Conception. Conception is very technical. Ostby is truely one of the greats. Too bad you never hear anything about him anymore. I heard Ark reunited recently.
@Windaros They dont have Ø's, so why the hell did you pick on that? Anyway, when you only heared Symphonic Metal (Kamelot, Nightwish...very straight forward) This might sound a bit off, but if you take the msuic apart, it's clearly better. Østby is clearly a better guitar player, he plays faster basically. His style is also way more interesting that Youngblood's mixing Latin rythms and freaking heavy stuff. I wont ramble on, but please listen to some more prog stuff, however, PFTP is/was MAGIC!
@jossy2112 No. Don't get me wrong, Conception was GREAT! But we all know that bringing Khan into Kamelot was a true strike of genious! The albums based on famous literature about interesting charactes and their trials is very nice, not to mention Khan is still pulling every stunt he did with conception off such as the amazingly high vocals and the smooth and collective tones. The only difference is, is that Youngblood isn't a guitar player like Otsby, but thats ok, this is what makes it unique.
@Theyzenski Khan basically stopped doing any kind of high notes after 2000, no?
I want him to book some coaching lessons like Tate did to get the high notes back, and then re-join Conception. (I wouldn't mind if he was the singer on Ark's upcoming disk either :)
@MrSilentDoubleA Great example is on Nights of Arabia on The Expedition CD compared to One Cold Winter's Nights version. He belts it out on ERASE THE SINS IVE MMMAAADDDEEEE back then
I only know "march of mephisto" and I like it because Shagrath is in it, other than that it's a nice song, but I liked this singer better in Conception!
He only had it for three years, it wasn't like he was raised from birth on it. So yes, he will have retained some of the lessons from it, but he's not an opera singer by default.
OMG man! Kamelot is the best don't say bullshit :D this is not bad but do you know what is the meaning of their lyrics, i mean Kamelot lyrics....i think you should sit down and put Epica and The Black Halo albums into your PC and listen to the whole story....Kamelot isn't prog metal and don't have to put these kinda guitar solos or riffs into their songs, it's better without this trust me ^^ ;)
You're going to get the fanboys all riled up... But you're absolutely right. Conception was amazing, especially for those of us who grew up with Noise Records. I want them back too. I just cant get into Kamelot, a little too cheesy. Conception was just right. And the guitar work is absolutely necessary.
The guitar work in this song is just rhythms and show-offy riffs. As if technical prowess could alone make a song powerful.
Without the melody in Roy Khan's voice, and perhaps without Khan's voice itself, this song would not be music to my ears.
Kamelot, to me, has shown an innate ability to make cheese beautiful. And not all of it is cheese anyway, not by a damn long shot. There is much meaning to be found in quite a few of their songs; over time I understand each a little more.
Kamelot cannot come close to the quality of Conception's music. Tore Ostby's guitar work and songwriting surpass pretty much any other prog/power band out there (well, I suppose Fates Warning has some songwriting on the same level).
Kamelot is not bad, but it doesn't hold a candle to Conception. In Your Multitude is probably the best prog metal album of all time.
i read somewhere that nowdays roy smokes a bit and i'm sure it plays a major role in his voice.maybe if he could stop it it could be best for him and us.rather than that he still is the BEST!
Noup, he just are out from bands. He's productor now and work in a web, dunno what is the name. Well, we can say he still stay in the music bussiness...but we want him playing :(
Roy Khan is the greatest singer ever. Kamelot is my favorite band, and he also did well in conception. Not to mention, he's gorgeous. Especially in this vid ;)
Khan hasn't lost any range. He himself said half of his more recent sound starting with the Black Halo is just a personal preference to fit the concept and tone of the albums. He said in an interview that maybe next album Kamelot will see a return to more of their Karma-esque things.
Personally I hope they do because what they've made recently sounds like main-stream trash.
I'd say its more likely that he doesn't want to perform Mark Vanderbilt's work. I'm sure he can sing the older stuff, but he probably prefers what he helped make over what he didn't make.
no, huh, he's an opera singer so HE CAN handle the early Kamelot material, if he wants. And he will ALWAYS be able to do it. BECAUSE HE IS ROY KHAN!!!
I myself am a singer...I know how voices work..I believe he has lost the upper part of his range partly from lack of use...and from age. However I think personally he has found himself as a vocalist and performer in this past few years...and i prefer the deeper richer tone of the more recent Khan.
they shouldnt really get back together because Roy is so much better in Kamelot as he outs so much more emotion in his performance! But i shouldn't be so critical as this was his first band but the move to Kamelot was certainly better for his career and the bands success! thye're huge now! i <3 roy khan! he rocks!!!!thank god he got rid of his dodgy shirts, kept them done up! and also got rid og his dodgy bandanas!!!!
You have misunderstood my first post, nevermind you're right.
WenGlen2 3 weeks ago
Fuck, I watch again and again these videos and I ask myself WHY this band never had the recognition they really deserved back in the day!. They were awesome all four; Tore, Roy, Ingar & Arve!!!. Beyond of any comparison, personally like more Khan with Conception than with Kamelot, even I like Kamelot's music, but what they did on this band was really cool!.
CarlosH1982 3 weeks ago
Roy Khan for Dream Theater please!
alucard0712 7 months ago 7
@alucard0712 it's the best thing could happen to make them take a good path to go
gsusrafael 6 months ago
@gsusrafael You understood me!
I thing Roy himself a best thing for band to go with...))))
alucard0712 6 months ago
Awesome!
chuax77 7 months ago
So Jack Sparrow was based on Roy Khan =O
I'l miss him at Kamelot...
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just 23 years old...
mpitonixxxangel 9 months ago
Roy Khan is awsome. It's so shit that this men was going to Kamelot. Kamelot is awesome to with him. But he is leavy the groep. I've cried 3 days it's so stupid
TheKayleigh97 9 months ago
AMAZING BAND AMAZING SONG
nLiOkWoEs 9 months ago
Khan still hit his high notes, just because they arent as high as they were during the times of Conception doesn't matter. They are still high notes none the less. No one knows the reason why Khan quit hitting those notes as high as he used to, but I am pretty sure it could have revolved around his age or maybe just getting tired of straining his voice. Any singer needs a good voice for tours, too many high notes over and over again can harm you. I know, I am a singer myself.
Theyzenski 11 months ago
@Theyzenski actually, his high notes (the ones that resemble screaming) are a combination of his real voice and falsetto, so it is of no harm to his vocal chords. I just think his range has dropped...
reaponja 7 months ago
@reaponja It did. I agree, his range did drop. But maybe thats because he has strained his vocal chords during many concerts. What's for sure, newer albums of Kamelot are sang much lower. Compare Fourth Legacy with Poetry for the poisoned. He's getting old... Like Rob Halford, he still rocks but does not hit the hights anymore :(((
Rotceev 6 months ago
@Rotceev Yup he did lose his range,but personal opinion his tone got beter as the albums went on.The way his voice sounds on the black halo,ghost opera and PftP was great.
666MetalMatt 5 months ago
Man, that was ultra gay.
aculturemind 1 year ago
Tore is God !
Marijan30 1 year ago
anyone who calls kamelot a joke, does not know music, BOTH these bands are amazing!!!!
Atheistsareok 1 year ago 2
Khan had long hair?
alejohp 1 year ago
@alejohp Nope. That's why he had that on.
lordabomity 11 months ago
His voice seems so different!
linkinn18 1 year ago
wow theres not difference between this and the studio recording..oh yes theres only one..this sounds better---gosh, roy looks so sexy! (i'ma girl)
IvanTsarina 1 year ago
It's a good song :)
TheDollTourniquet 1 year ago
Fantastic Progressive Metal band
knightmidnight 1 year ago
Killer song, killer band.
TallulahKhan 1 year ago
OMFG I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT IS ROY KHAN. THIS IS TOO GREAT!
xboxsteven 1 year ago
amaizing voice,just briliant.The best song.
ivicarock 1 year ago
Khan is nothing without Ostby. Sorry guys, I know I'm a hater, but this album and Flow destroy anything Kamelot has ever done.
TheJontslayer 1 year ago
@TheJontslayer have you heard Ostby's new stuff? I think it's more the other way around. Ostby is nothing without Khan...
CodyAllenmusic 1 year ago
@TheJontslayer cant they both be awesome? lol, cuz they really are. i mean, ostby is great and all, but alot of that is that he worked with great vocalists like Roy Khan (as well as Jorn Lande, whos certainly no Khan, but hes certainly good), and i think they just compliment each other really well.
rockster07 1 year ago 2
@TheJontslayer Agreed!!
Kamelot is kind of a joke next to Conception. Conception is very technical. Ostby is truely one of the greats. Too bad you never hear anything about him anymore. I heard Ark reunited recently.
jossy2112 1 year ago
@jossy2112 Kamelot is better. And it's written "Østby". "Ostby" would in norwegian translate to "Cheesetown", lol
Windaros 1 year ago
@Windaros They dont have Ø's, so why the hell did you pick on that? Anyway, when you only heared Symphonic Metal (Kamelot, Nightwish...very straight forward) This might sound a bit off, but if you take the msuic apart, it's clearly better. Østby is clearly a better guitar player, he plays faster basically. His style is also way more interesting that Youngblood's mixing Latin rythms and freaking heavy stuff. I wont ramble on, but please listen to some more prog stuff, however, PFTP is/was MAGIC!
MrSilentDoubleA 1 year ago
@jossy2112 No. Don't get me wrong, Conception was GREAT! But we all know that bringing Khan into Kamelot was a true strike of genious! The albums based on famous literature about interesting charactes and their trials is very nice, not to mention Khan is still pulling every stunt he did with conception off such as the amazingly high vocals and the smooth and collective tones. The only difference is, is that Youngblood isn't a guitar player like Otsby, but thats ok, this is what makes it unique.
Theyzenski 11 months ago
@Theyzenski Khan basically stopped doing any kind of high notes after 2000, no?
I want him to book some coaching lessons like Tate did to get the high notes back, and then re-join Conception. (I wouldn't mind if he was the singer on Ark's upcoming disk either :)
MrSilentDoubleA 11 months ago
@MrSilentDoubleA Great example is on Nights of Arabia on The Expedition CD compared to One Cold Winter's Nights version. He belts it out on ERASE THE SINS IVE MMMAAADDDEEEE back then
PrinceMarcusWilliam 11 months ago
@MrSilentDoubleA i think no, after 2001/2002 he stopped with those high notes. listen to the fourth legacy and night of arabia.
WenGlen2 3 weeks ago
@WenGlen2 That awkward moment when that was released in 1999...
MrSilentDoubleA 3 weeks ago
@MrSilentDoubleA listen to expedition live album, year 2000.
WenGlen2 3 weeks ago
@WenGlen2 Hence why I said 2000.
MrSilentDoubleA 3 weeks ago
@TheJontslayer ermmm this is different from kamelot's work... this sounds heavier.kamelot has a more melodic sound
IvanTsarina 1 year ago
oh my gooooood! he REALLY LOOKS LIKE A PIRATE! ITS SO FUNNY!
Pamella95 1 year ago 2
Does Roy was using a WIG?? they seaid he uses wig for long hair and he didnt like long hair
rubendrakkar 1 year ago
Epic song.
Masters of prog-power. The real one, I mean, not the actual "double bass-drum&guitar solos galore" we are listening to nowadays.
This was, is and will be always a classic.
Utcheeow 1 year ago 2
Shit, this may be older than me... xD
Reaper93Nixon 1 year ago
omg! que joven estaba roy y que cambio dio o.O omg!!!
kriik16 1 year ago
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Khan is way better in kamelot.
Xcal360 2 years ago
@Xcal360 uhmmmmmmm, no.
StraTooS 1 year ago
Roy Khan is in Kamelot now:P
museumet 2 years ago
I had no idea that was Roy Khan until I looked up Conception on Wikipedia. Didn't look or sound like him to me.
AgentFour 2 years ago
he play in both Conception and Kamelot :)
museumet 2 years ago
Great band Conception, awesome dude !!!
gakuh721 2 years ago 2
I only know "march of mephisto" and I like it because Shagrath is in it, other than that it's a nice song, but I liked this singer better in Conception!
mandylio 2 years ago
Joder, vaya sonido que sacaban en directo... Increiblemente buenos.
ComanderBlood 2 years ago
He has such a unique and amazing voice.
silvertear1 2 years ago 2
It doesn't sound like Khan's had his opera training here? He's only 23 here it seems...hmm
What do people know?
Seriphyn 2 years ago
He only had it for three years, it wasn't like he was raised from birth on it. So yes, he will have retained some of the lessons from it, but he's not an opera singer by default.
Hope that helps :)
padshiyangel01 2 years ago
ah, sure thing mate, just wondering if this is before or after the training.
Seriphyn 2 years ago
He had the training from age 18-21, I think. Seeing as you said this was when he was 23, then yes I think he had had the training by now.
padshiyangel01 2 years ago
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Theyzenski 11 months ago
@Seriphyn He took Opera around age 18 - 20.
Theyzenski 11 months ago
Ostby is such a great guitarist.
Really, I want Conception back. It was much better than Kamelot, the guitar work was better and the lyrics didn't suck.
oooooooooorly 2 years ago
OMG man! Kamelot is the best don't say bullshit :D this is not bad but do you know what is the meaning of their lyrics, i mean Kamelot lyrics....i think you should sit down and put Epica and The Black Halo albums into your PC and listen to the whole story....Kamelot isn't prog metal and don't have to put these kinda guitar solos or riffs into their songs, it's better without this trust me ^^ ;)
dante521 2 years ago
You're going to get the fanboys all riled up... But you're absolutely right. Conception was amazing, especially for those of us who grew up with Noise Records. I want them back too. I just cant get into Kamelot, a little too cheesy. Conception was just right. And the guitar work is absolutely necessary.
TheJontslayer 2 years ago
The guitar work in this song is just rhythms and show-offy riffs. As if technical prowess could alone make a song powerful.
Without the melody in Roy Khan's voice, and perhaps without Khan's voice itself, this song would not be music to my ears.
Kamelot, to me, has shown an innate ability to make cheese beautiful. And not all of it is cheese anyway, not by a damn long shot. There is much meaning to be found in quite a few of their songs; over time I understand each a little more.
Majikn 2 years ago
dude, watch your tongue.... kamelot would've disappeared long time ago if it sucked....
Reaper93Nixon 2 years ago 2
Kamelot cannot come close to the quality of Conception's music. Tore Ostby's guitar work and songwriting surpass pretty much any other prog/power band out there (well, I suppose Fates Warning has some songwriting on the same level).
Kamelot is not bad, but it doesn't hold a candle to Conception. In Your Multitude is probably the best prog metal album of all time.
oooooooooorly 2 years ago
This is so good. holy damn.
filowfulwaffle 2 years ago
khan looks like a pirate
sooner282002 2 years ago 33
@sooner282002 Lmfao exactly my thoughts.
CodyAllenmusic 1 year ago
its someone who have complete concerts of this band
aphasia2 2 years ago
Woah, Tore's guitar skills are amazing. His fingers move so quickly at the end of the song, just wow.
LunaSilverShine 2 years ago
Khan has a unique sounding higher register.
JoeSidhu 3 years ago 2
love this band! the really like to show their nipples to:)
NightOfTheSlunk 3 years ago
huwakhuwak hahahaha i like this one!!!
brandonman2k 3 years ago
i read somewhere that nowdays roy smokes a bit and i'm sure it plays a major role in his voice.maybe if he could stop it it could be best for him and us.rather than that he still is the BEST!
iojim15 3 years ago
yea, but roy sings a fuck of a lot better kamelot today he destroyed his voice. =(
jewboy1576 3 years ago
yes roy khan is so amazing!
1057813 3 years ago
Eh. his higher register changed. I saw them live, he's still amazing, his voice is just a little deeper.
CallingCrowe 2 years ago
I never understand why, when i like a band as much as i liked Conception, Psychotic Waltz etc.. they just quit :-(
this is just perfect !
Roll the fire !
anibalojeda 3 years ago 2
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to bad conception rapes kamelot with a giant black dildo kamelot is good but conception is just simply better
jewboy1576 3 years ago
Eh... their two totally different sounds.
It's purely aesthetic principle.
CallingCrowe 3 years ago 4
Roy Khan is a great singer one of my favourites ever... Hail Conception!!! Hail Kamelot!!!
daves644 3 years ago 4
this is a bloody kickass band!
Hellkey666 3 years ago 6
this is a great band
KamelotRules 3 years ago 5
I'm not the biggest Conception-fan, but the guitarist is amazing!
azzalennie 3 years ago 3
we all miss so much tore ostby
Sasox 3 years ago 4
he died?
crisinha258 2 years ago
Noup, he just are out from bands. He's productor now and work in a web, dunno what is the name. Well, we can say he still stay in the music bussiness...but we want him playing :(
Sasox 2 years ago
How do you know? I've been searching for information about him for ages. He's my fav guitarist, honestly.
dinkabeni 2 years ago
XD Roy's look in this reminds me of David Hayter when he was in Guyver 2. This is a great song.
TerminusX 3 years ago 2
Alogija eat your heart out....... Conception rules......
BlitzkriegLord 4 years ago 3
This song rules. Roy Khan is brilliant. Tore Ostby's playing and riffs are killer.
Brent77772 4 years ago 20
Roy Khan is the greatest singer ever. Kamelot is my favorite band, and he also did well in conception. Not to mention, he's gorgeous. Especially in this vid ;)
vampirebloodlust666 4 years ago 7
I agree with you 100%!!!!!!!
Psunshine69 4 years ago 4
I agree with you, totally,he's the best and gorgeous,it's a killer combination:)Love Tore Otsby's amazing&unique guitar work!Both bands are GREAT!!!!
JuliaJ75 3 years ago 3
Holy crap this was made in 1993 i was 7 going on 8 years old then XD hehehe . He sound great then and even better now .
HawaiianGurl8o8 4 years ago
me too! by that time only queen and guns and roses existed for me,, ahhh the ignorance of the youth
metalwings 4 years ago 2
lol i remember those days
sooner282002 4 years ago 2
OMG TORE ØSTBY ER FAEN MEG UTROLIG<3 spelle så presist live er utrolig! For et utrolig band (Y)
AlexGronstad 4 years ago
Khan hasn't lost any range. He himself said half of his more recent sound starting with the Black Halo is just a personal preference to fit the concept and tone of the albums. He said in an interview that maybe next album Kamelot will see a return to more of their Karma-esque things.
Personally I hope they do because what they've made recently sounds like main-stream trash.
evalinah 4 years ago
Roy's advantage was never the infinite vocal range, but the VERY expressive vocal "color".
thunderdoom1980 4 years ago 5
Khan is God.
That's... just all there is to say about the matter.
dirtclaw 4 years ago
naw, Kahn owns NO MATTER what band hes in, thats why Conception is awesome, and thats why Kamelot is so COOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!
Pezdetz666 4 years ago
damn, have it your way
Ravona482 4 years ago
braxil is a world famous metal historian. i would listen to his opinion if i twas yew.
cursedgriffin 4 years ago
eeeer no, the Scorpions vocalist is old too but guys, did you hear his voice? So why you think Khan cannot sing so good as he did?
Ravona482 4 years ago
Because I have ears
braxil13 4 years ago
I'd say its more likely that he doesn't want to perform Mark Vanderbilt's work. I'm sure he can sing the older stuff, but he probably prefers what he helped make over what he didn't make.
Cloud3514 4 years ago
So what, you're saying he messes up the old material intentionally? People lose their range as they get older, opera singer or not.
braxil13 4 years ago
...people lose their range as they get older?
True, but Khan is only 37. Not old enough for him to start losing his range.
primadonna2887 4 years ago
He's already lost a lot of his range compared to this video, but he's made up for it with much more feeling.
bssj4 4 years ago
no, huh, he's an opera singer so HE CAN handle the early Kamelot material, if he wants. And he will ALWAYS be able to do it. BECAUSE HE IS ROY KHAN!!!
Ravona482 4 years ago
Youre SO right ^^ :P
creativesucker 4 years ago
I don't believe he has lost his range at all. I believe it is partly stylistic choice and in part he has let it go.
XavierSky 4 years ago
Well um, you're wrong. He can't handle even the early Kamelot material live anymore.
braxil13 4 years ago
"Well um, you're wrong. He can't handle even the early Kamelot material live anymore."
How about a video of Roy struggling with one such song to prove your point?
livgrnfan 4 years ago
I myself am a singer...I know how voices work..I believe he has lost the upper part of his range partly from lack of use...and from age. However I think personally he has found himself as a vocalist and performer in this past few years...and i prefer the deeper richer tone of the more recent Khan.
XavierSky 4 years ago
they shouldnt really get back together because Roy is so much better in Kamelot as he outs so much more emotion in his performance! But i shouldn't be so critical as this was his first band but the move to Kamelot was certainly better for his career and the bands success! thye're huge now! i <3 roy khan! he rocks!!!!thank god he got rid of his dodgy shirts, kept them done up! and also got rid og his dodgy bandanas!!!!
Spezial92 4 years ago
This band is so powerful!!! Will they ever reunite?
Hprog 4 years ago
Roy Khan rocks but maybe they should add one more guitar for better sound
LYBIS1 4 years ago
great!!
maxmd72 4 years ago
perfect composition,the whole album has a very good sound
and live its also excellent.tore great guitarist(rhythm and solo)
ferdinardos 5 years ago
i <3 roy kahn
dreamtheaterfan1 5 years ago
lol khan rocks lost lil of his range in camelot but i liek him better in camelot he suits them just fine:)
finvarra777 5 years ago
i dont think that he lost any of his range in kamelot...he is older you know aswel!!!!1
Spezial92 4 years ago
holy shit...when's this from?
jhendrix86 5 years ago
1993
nickmasterx 5 years ago
one of the best voices i have ever heard.excellent live performance.maybe better than studio
trasakas 5 years ago
My favorite Conception tune ~
straightdope 5 years ago
This band kicks ass!! Tore Ostby is great guitar player!
shredguitargod1 5 years ago
This is one of my fav songs ever... and live is even better than the studio one! That's cause the guitars are heavier and Roy sings godly.
metalRULES4life 5 years ago