bro i disagree with some of what u tallk about you made me want a wii not for the controller for my zelda fix and my samus fix and hell maybe some kick ass rpg's? you made me more open minded aka you are doing a damn good job of ur show even with the overly cheezzy story =.= hell u probably wont reed this but yea that's what i wanted to say (and no one liked shadow the hedgehog cause HES NOT SONIC!!!! for gods sake i love that about the game but shadows darkness is what i love about it)
I very much agree to the points made in the video, but its pretty damn hard to counter a senseless, testosterone fueled shooter junkie with sense. They won't listen.
What I'd like to see are people who enjoy games who try to take on a more serious tone become more vocal, start some sort of movement, and demand more of these games, instead of crusading on a useless war against shooter junkies. The video game industry is still a business. Business is about supply and demand. Supply the demand.
I don't mind the fact that he has his little skits in his videos, it's kinda fun and all, but why oh why does he have to interupt his points with 2 second clips of absolutely nothing?
Serious war games will never outsell things like COD, because a large part of CODs audience consists of little kids that wouldn't understand it and even more people who don't care at all about the message of the game and just play the disgustingly denominating multiplayer to feel like they're able to do cool stuff online and kick ass.
@ReeseKaine No. What it proves is that parents are too irresponsible to care for what their kids play because they use consoles as nanny replacements to parent their children for them. What it also proves is that retail workers are too indifferent to not sell M rated games to little kids without their parent's approval or an age verification. ESRB is not the one that's supposed to look after what children play. It's a guideline. And when parents ignore it, that's their fault, not the ESRBs.
Im guilty of criticizing motion gaming, mobil gaming, facebook games and all that crap, because thats not what i want people to experience, in fact if the new people to gaming is playing farmville how the fuck is the medium going to get the respect that it deserves? if by gamer you mean playing angry birds than we are never going to be taken seriously.
If "bitch" is the only applicable insult that doesn't make them lose their PG rating, that sounds like a good reason to have it turn up all the time. Sure it's annoying to hear all the time but if that's the one they're allowed to use and people want to play as cat woman then it's either that or have the goons not so outspoken about being beaten up...which isn't very realistic.
Also, you have to have violence against women if you want to play as a woman in a fighting game, it just makes sense!
Oh, for pity's sake, Bob, couldn't you have used some variety in the sound effects? Hearing the EXACT SAME metal-hitting-metal sound effect over and over is very jarring. Couldn't you have at least varied the playback speed to add some variety? Even old-school games do that.
@psychowerekitsune actually it's more about telling gamers to grow the fuck up, then he just randomly puts in another FPS rant. But then in the next few episode he pulls off the same thing again. Has anyone notice how random that FPS rant bit really is?
I think Bob has a tendancy to underestimate the majority of gamers and lets the outspoken few influence his image of gamers too much. Lets face it, the average adult, regardless of their views, wouldn't blow up at someone who suggested concernes about sexism in games. That said, although I disagree with some of what was said in the video, it was still thought provoking and thats good enough for me!
Gamers have to develop a thick skin or at least, come to the realization that not everyone will have the same thoughts towards the same subject as they do.
I still remember the backlash I received when I posted the critique "The Dark Knight SUCKED!"
Some people actually responded with "I will find you and I will KILL you!"
It's important to realize that when someone uses hot terms like 'sexism' or 'racism' they may be raising legitimate concerns, but they may also be using those politicized hotwords for no other reason than to get attention for that person's website or blog. Hulk Critic fits into this latter category. It's actually counterproductive to 'serious game criticism' to have it hijacked by this kind of red herring criticism and then pass it off as sincere or credible.
"A rich guy dressed as a bat beating up poor criminals" it's nice when you can quote Yatzee and sound smart isn't it? I know I do. Also 'poor criminals'? These are dudes with violent tendencies, you really think they can be dealt with any other way? I'm most cheesed about the fact that this game comes so close to realism but is tainted by having to compromize for a completely superfluous character
While usually dismissed as cynical attempt to create controversy, the "No Russian" mission makes a very critical assessment on U.S national security policy. The game plot mirrors Cold War Era policy of working with dictators to protect American interest, and just like real life American support for the Shah resulted in Iran becoming United States’ chief adversary in Middle East today, the in-game, dog-eat-dog policy of CIA led to full scale war between Russia and the United States.
So let me get this straight; you put up a video about the new Batman and instead of addressing some of the more crippling problems from the industry to the community such as the inclusion of an online pass, nickel and diming everyone with necessary DLC, games not coming boxed with necessities and game breaking FILE CORRUPTION across ALL CONSOLES, we're just going to talk about something as mundane as sexism...again?
I think I'll just go back to watching The Main Event.
@PsychoWerekitsune Wow. Sexism is mundane and not worth your time? This is why you sleep alone. It's a legitimate issue that hasn't really been touched upon. It really should if any gamer wants our hobby taken even 1/4 as seriously as film and books. Amongst others like the ones mentioned in the video. Big boy pants. Dude. Big boy pants.
@Apathyfaucet Sorry, I probably worded myself wrong because I was a little irritated with how oversimplified the video is. Yes, sexism is a legitimate issue, especially in gaming and I never intended to make light of it, but it isn't one that hasn't really been touched upon, but talked to death all over the internet. Arkham City is plagued with issues that affect the industry and the consumerbase as a whole, yet he only decided to touch upon one thing because some other guy wrote about it.
I haven't agreed with every GOT, but as far as I'm concerned with this one you knocked it out of the park, Bob. And Hulk expounding on your point for the Indoor Kids podcast was right on the money too.
Please just talk and for the rest you can shut your mouth. Me and the rest don't give two shits about the storyline, and I know it's boring to constantly do the same but either do this or that, don't combine it.
The "story" (which is bland and boring and the effects you put into it don't help at all) distract from the message you are trying to get across. It's too much information that we don't care about.
So again, either just talk about the subject of the video or just shut the fuck up.
When 'Bob' tells 'Ivan' to get 'to the fucking point'... well, that's how I feel about the Game Overthinker these days. I HATE the fucking 'storyline' bullshit. JUST GET TO THE FUCKING POINT, ALREADY.
Moviebob, you need to play the single player of Call of Duty 4. I'm not kidding, the shit of 2 and 3 aside, Modern Warfare 1 had a fairly intellectual story, that really did take a look at the consequences and darker side of military life. Was it as dark or intellectual as Full Metal or Apocalypse Now? No, but it was a step in the right direction.
daos tend to be a bit longer than what you created,
given the size of your presumably normal sized hands (unless I'm missing something about sox fans :P ) you could have gone with a Philippino Bolo or similar short sword.
I strongly approve of the use of the sword you opted in for. However, as a metalurgy nerd, your forging posture is terrible.
I haven't been able to watch since War of the Thinker because S/A's player got worse and worse and worse, so I'm quite enjoying the rapid re-ups. THANKS!
12:30 About the truly realistic and oppressive military sim. I would really buy it. I think it would be actually be pretty interesting, having to deal with PTSD in a firefight, or being restricted from being returning fire due to the rules of engagement. I think that would work, although not in a multiplayer setting. Although the Brothers in Arms did fairly well, being pretty much a video game version of saving private Ryan.
I see, but when would you say would be the point when games are yo be taken seriously, Bob? would you say it's when the overall face of gaming culture becomes more dignified or when mainstream games become as well-written and intellectual as fine literature?
I do think it's curious that in talking about the merits and advantages of adult discussion regarding issues in the culture, Bob didn't bring up Metroid Other M, even though that game brought about more conversations about gender in gaming than any other in the last five years. Maybe its a coincidence, perhaps he felt the discussions didn't have enough merit, or Metroid M brought about the wrong kind of gender discussion in his mind, but it does make me wonder.
I agree with the majority of what Bob said but he left out the Metal Gear Series. Metal Gear Series has always been a triple A "military" game that focuses on the "horrors of war". Yes metal gear can not compete with Stanley Kubrick films or Apocalypse Now but let us not forget that the series exists or that no video game(s) has ever attempted similar themes or symbolism.
I think a game like that might sell well enough, after all, the Metal Gear Solid games don't exactly have a too positive light of what Snake and any other character is doing, of course that's a series that attracted most of it's fans back when most storys in games were alot simpler, and the fact that it was a game with a serious story was new and intreresting, so maybe not, but it's worth a try
I'm surprised you didn't mention Six Days in Fallujah, which was a great example of a game trying to talk about the negative aspects of war, especially in the middle east. However it met a lot of controversy for trying to do so and the publisher bailed on it.
I defiantly agree with you on a lot of what you said. Gamers really do need to grow up and let people try their own way, not the "hard core" way. Right now, video games are being taken seriously by the people who matter to the industry, the gamers, but just because games like farmville and angry birds are played more by non-gamers doesn't mean that the artsy and mature games won't go away. Video games aren't going nowhere, but let people try games that interest them.
(Part 5 of 5) Despite obviously taking place in semi-fictional universes and featuring their own stories, those three games take a look at the growing control of governments over society and the ensuing abuse of powers, the timelessness of circumstances surrounding conflict and the shaping of history, and finally the effects of letting the economy and society in general be shaped by a growing dedication to war.
(Part 4 of 5) Those movies and others have been exploiting 9/11 and the elements that followed it just as much as games have, because as you've already stated, these modern times have been shaped by those events; in other words, gaming and movies both simply make use of interests that are relevant in current times. You want games that examine the world around those events as opposed to simply using them, check out the Metal Gear series; Metal Gear Solid 2, 3 and 4 specifically.
(Part 3 of 5) Said games also happen to be some of the biggest sellers in modern gaming, and coupled with many people's obsession with guns and warfare especially in the US, they naturally attract more attention. Those games aren't feeding off of 9/11 so much as they're feeding off of the renewed interest in war that has made its way into modern society. Movies haven't avoided making use of those sentiments any more than gaming did; just look at the new Transformers movies and Avatar.
(Part 2 of 5) Sure some people roll their eyes at the very mention of words like "casual" or "mobile", but those are simply the less mature, less appreciative members of the gaming community; every medium has those kinds of people, but it doesn't define the medium itself. As for the whole 9/11 thing, I simply can't agree at all. Obviously games like Call of Duty and Battlefield thrive off of it, that's just what they do; they're essentially gaming's equivalent to exploitation movies.
I agree with some of the thoughts expressed in this video, mostly that some gamers don't want to take casual gaming seriously, but I disagree with the thought process behind that. It's not that mobile and casual gaming in general doesn't get respect, it's just that a lot of it -- notably a lot of the games you would find on Facebook and basically anything made by Zynga -- is little more than barely interactive time wasters that suck money out of the less knowledgeable consumers. (Part 1 of 5)
It was not forced you need to pay attention. He is making a point as to why it is hard to take video games seriously. Hollywood was classy in the post 9/11 events and video games were overall childish.
some of what is said here makes sense and I agree with. you lost me with the war on terror segment, that was forced and did not really say anything. Yes COD is a game about war.
Hey, Bob! The Metal Gear Solid does this part of giving us the thoughtful side of war, instead of being just war shooter fun. But yeah, there are not many series like this one, right? :(
11:34 50 Cent shoots brown people: The Game, ugh, forgot about that till you brought it up Bob. And to think X-Play gave a passing review, which would probably be one of those retrospective moments when that show officially lost credibility in my eye.
Glad to see more of your Game Overthinker videos, been waiting a long time. Regardless of what people think, continue to do what you please with them. I find the story lines fun and refreshing.
They use "Bitch" word for Bruce Wayne too. And that's during the first 5 mins.
These guys are hardcore criminals who had almost no schooling, most likely they had little luck when it comes to women as it is. And then some female thief drops in and starts beating the crap out of them and they are powerless to stop her! They can't stop Catwoman, so they do only thing they can with their broken egos: insult her verbally.
It's there for atmosphere. Game is trying to be semi-realistic after all.
Hmm... you mean like they don't fight eachothers when their skincolor is diffirent. They are in a way, but the racism goes to uniforms in this one. XD
@Arppis They were doing realism with Batman. They weren't even pretending you could do realism with Catwoman. She jumps 50 feet, weighs 40lbs and has no weapons but she can take 10 dudes each muscled and weighed 5 times as much as her? Get real
Did say "semi" realistic. And that's mostly the atmosphere. It's a video game in the end, you should come to expect these kind of things, especialy when the story is about rich man dressed as bat, beating poor criminals on the streets. But still, it doesn't mean that they should just abandon realism all together, it's smart to try to bring that grit and bit of personality to these side characters. It's just how these prisoners would most likely behave.
@Arppis Yeah. It's a game about a billionaire ninja detective who dresses up as a bat and uses James Bond gadgets to beat up clowns, 30s-era stereotypical gangsters, and a centuries-old alchemist, but they had to make the prison dialogue "realistic" because all of our immersion was hanging on that one specific detail.
So how did The Dark Knight pull off its atmosphere 10 times better with almost no misogyny?
Again with the bi-polarity... It doesn't hang on that detail. Even if they would remove the blood from the game, it wouldn't stop me from being immersed. But I can see the reasons why they are calling her "bitch". And Dark Knight didn't have female beating up thugs with weak ego. People seem to fail at noticing that these guys don't give a damn about are they mysagonist or not. Game developers aren't psychopaths just because Joker is, for example...
A great insight of gaming culture, ruined by pointless cut aways to show our overthinker hammering two toys.
AKImeru 3 days ago
bro i disagree with some of what u tallk about you made me want a wii not for the controller for my zelda fix and my samus fix and hell maybe some kick ass rpg's? you made me more open minded aka you are doing a damn good job of ur show even with the overly cheezzy story =.= hell u probably wont reed this but yea that's what i wanted to say (and no one liked shadow the hedgehog cause HES NOT SONIC!!!! for gods sake i love that about the game but shadows darkness is what i love about it)
Xxfadedshadows1xX 3 days ago
Yes we would BUY T,its called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
toruforevamente 6 days ago
are you attempting to blacksmith with a rubber mallet?!?
ReGo001 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
6 days in fallujah...
it tried to show the real nature of war... CNN and other "news networks" jumped on it and it got cancelled due to public criticism...
this is why we don't have any intelligent war games on the market...
Mochme 2 weeks ago
14:22 Should of made a spear.
commandervulkan 2 weeks ago
I very much agree to the points made in the video, but its pretty damn hard to counter a senseless, testosterone fueled shooter junkie with sense. They won't listen.
What I'd like to see are people who enjoy games who try to take on a more serious tone become more vocal, start some sort of movement, and demand more of these games, instead of crusading on a useless war against shooter junkies. The video game industry is still a business. Business is about supply and demand. Supply the demand.
HardBoiledYoshi 3 weeks ago
I don't mind the fact that he has his little skits in his videos, it's kinda fun and all, but why oh why does he have to interupt his points with 2 second clips of absolutely nothing?
Chaosian01 4 weeks ago
Serious war games will never outsell things like COD, because a large part of CODs audience consists of little kids that wouldn't understand it and even more people who don't care at all about the message of the game and just play the disgustingly denominating multiplayer to feel like they're able to do cool stuff online and kick ass.
NumidiumsRG 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@NumidiumsRG The fact that kids are playing M-rated shooters like COD prove that the ESRB system is broken.
ReeseKaine 5 days ago
@ReeseKaine No. What it proves is that parents are too irresponsible to care for what their kids play because they use consoles as nanny replacements to parent their children for them. What it also proves is that retail workers are too indifferent to not sell M rated games to little kids without their parent's approval or an age verification. ESRB is not the one that's supposed to look after what children play. It's a guideline. And when parents ignore it, that's their fault, not the ESRBs.
NumidiumsRG 5 days ago
@NumidiumsRG I stand corrected.
ReeseKaine 5 days ago
Im guilty of criticizing motion gaming, mobil gaming, facebook games and all that crap, because thats not what i want people to experience, in fact if the new people to gaming is playing farmville how the fuck is the medium going to get the respect that it deserves? if by gamer you mean playing angry birds than we are never going to be taken seriously.
squerintain 1 month ago
Lay off of the sound effects, please. They ruin an otherwise good video.
ColonelPandabear 1 month ago
If "bitch" is the only applicable insult that doesn't make them lose their PG rating, that sounds like a good reason to have it turn up all the time. Sure it's annoying to hear all the time but if that's the one they're allowed to use and people want to play as cat woman then it's either that or have the goons not so outspoken about being beaten up...which isn't very realistic.
Also, you have to have violence against women if you want to play as a woman in a fighting game, it just makes sense!
MarcusDitzel 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Oh, for pity's sake, Bob, couldn't you have used some variety in the sound effects? Hearing the EXACT SAME metal-hitting-metal sound effect over and over is very jarring. Couldn't you have at least varied the playback speed to add some variety? Even old-school games do that.
Roxor128 1 month ago
@psychowerekitsune actually it's more about telling gamers to grow the fuck up, then he just randomly puts in another FPS rant. But then in the next few episode he pulls off the same thing again. Has anyone notice how random that FPS rant bit really is?
hanzkidz 1 month ago
Metal Gear Solid
AstOnokReviews 1 month ago
ARMA II. Play it.
EasterGhost 1 month ago
Wizards and Warriors music at the intro. I used to just let the title screen play while I listened to that as a kid. Nice choice!
d21lewis 1 month ago
I think Bob has a tendancy to underestimate the majority of gamers and lets the outspoken few influence his image of gamers too much. Lets face it, the average adult, regardless of their views, wouldn't blow up at someone who suggested concernes about sexism in games. That said, although I disagree with some of what was said in the video, it was still thought provoking and thats good enough for me!
MechanicArm 1 month ago
Gamers have to develop a thick skin or at least, come to the realization that not everyone will have the same thoughts towards the same subject as they do.
I still remember the backlash I received when I posted the critique "The Dark Knight SUCKED!"
Some people actually responded with "I will find you and I will KILL you!"
misterprickly 1 month ago
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It's important to realize that when someone uses hot terms like 'sexism' or 'racism' they may be raising legitimate concerns, but they may also be using those politicized hotwords for no other reason than to get attention for that person's website or blog. Hulk Critic fits into this latter category. It's actually counterproductive to 'serious game criticism' to have it hijacked by this kind of red herring criticism and then pass it off as sincere or credible.
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Ivan = Navi backwards... I just got that...
NinjaRacoonDelta2 1 month ago
People are fucking greedy, and the same thing goes for gamers.
grassmanmatt 1 month ago
@grassmanmatt Greedy?!
What does GREED have to do with the (unrealistic) double-standard that gamers have towards game criticism.
misterprickly 1 month ago
I haven't seen a few episodes, so sorry if I'm the last horse to cross the finish line, but lol@Ivan as the name choice.
YEH! NETSIL!
Azukiyo 1 month ago
"A rich guy dressed as a bat beating up poor criminals" it's nice when you can quote Yatzee and sound smart isn't it? I know I do. Also 'poor criminals'? These are dudes with violent tendencies, you really think they can be dealt with any other way? I'm most cheesed about the fact that this game comes so close to realism but is tainted by having to compromize for a completely superfluous character
DarkW0lverine 1 month ago
Very well said.
austinmackert 1 month ago
While usually dismissed as cynical attempt to create controversy, the "No Russian" mission makes a very critical assessment on U.S national security policy. The game plot mirrors Cold War Era policy of working with dictators to protect American interest, and just like real life American support for the Shah resulted in Iran becoming United States’ chief adversary in Middle East today, the in-game, dog-eat-dog policy of CIA led to full scale war between Russia and the United States.
vonOhzu 1 month ago
So let me get this straight; you put up a video about the new Batman and instead of addressing some of the more crippling problems from the industry to the community such as the inclusion of an online pass, nickel and diming everyone with necessary DLC, games not coming boxed with necessities and game breaking FILE CORRUPTION across ALL CONSOLES, we're just going to talk about something as mundane as sexism...again?
I think I'll just go back to watching The Main Event.
PsychoWerekitsune 1 month ago
@PsychoWerekitsune Wow. Sexism is mundane and not worth your time? This is why you sleep alone. It's a legitimate issue that hasn't really been touched upon. It really should if any gamer wants our hobby taken even 1/4 as seriously as film and books. Amongst others like the ones mentioned in the video. Big boy pants. Dude. Big boy pants.
Apathyfaucet 1 month ago
@Apathyfaucet Sorry, I probably worded myself wrong because I was a little irritated with how oversimplified the video is. Yes, sexism is a legitimate issue, especially in gaming and I never intended to make light of it, but it isn't one that hasn't really been touched upon, but talked to death all over the internet. Arkham City is plagued with issues that affect the industry and the consumerbase as a whole, yet he only decided to touch upon one thing because some other guy wrote about it.
PsychoWerekitsune 1 month ago
I haven't agreed with every GOT, but as far as I'm concerned with this one you knocked it out of the park, Bob. And Hulk expounding on your point for the Indoor Kids podcast was right on the money too.
falseprophecy 1 month ago
2:40 Start of video.
Sorry bob love your stuff but I loved it for your old stuff where you got streight into it, I like the other stuff but less tangents please :D
Caladors 1 month ago
Please just talk and for the rest you can shut your mouth. Me and the rest don't give two shits about the storyline, and I know it's boring to constantly do the same but either do this or that, don't combine it.
The "story" (which is bland and boring and the effects you put into it don't help at all) distract from the message you are trying to get across. It's too much information that we don't care about.
So again, either just talk about the subject of the video or just shut the fuck up.
Daandude1 1 month ago
Dude, Bob.
Shut the fuck up. You're becoming an annoying fixture of pussy-footing retardation in gaming. You're becoming the FUCKING PROBLEM.
agentsirus 1 month ago
Jesus Christ.
When 'Bob' tells 'Ivan' to get 'to the fucking point'... well, that's how I feel about the Game Overthinker these days. I HATE the fucking 'storyline' bullshit. JUST GET TO THE FUCKING POINT, ALREADY.
agentsirus 1 month ago
I can play that on guitar, wiz and war
DestroyTheMedia 1 month ago
Moviebob, you need to play the single player of Call of Duty 4. I'm not kidding, the shit of 2 and 3 aside, Modern Warfare 1 had a fairly intellectual story, that really did take a look at the consequences and darker side of military life. Was it as dark or intellectual as Full Metal or Apocalypse Now? No, but it was a step in the right direction.
bloodunderthemoon 1 month ago
daos tend to be a bit longer than what you created,
given the size of your presumably normal sized hands (unless I'm missing something about sox fans :P ) you could have gone with a Philippino Bolo or similar short sword.
JohnnyV83 1 month ago
How did the golden Antimetal become silver ?
OGKUSHI 1 month ago
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Neocasko 1 month ago
I strongly approve of the use of the sword you opted in for. However, as a metalurgy nerd, your forging posture is terrible.
I haven't been able to watch since War of the Thinker because S/A's player got worse and worse and worse, so I'm quite enjoying the rapid re-ups. THANKS!
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4:00 - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!
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12:30 About the truly realistic and oppressive military sim. I would really buy it. I think it would be actually be pretty interesting, having to deal with PTSD in a firefight, or being restricted from being returning fire due to the rules of engagement. I think that would work, although not in a multiplayer setting. Although the Brothers in Arms did fairly well, being pretty much a video game version of saving private Ryan.
GiantAnimeMech 1 month ago
i thought we were never to speak of the anti-thinker again!!!
bigjavo36 1 month ago in playlist More videos from moviebob
I see, but when would you say would be the point when games are yo be taken seriously, Bob? would you say it's when the overall face of gaming culture becomes more dignified or when mainstream games become as well-written and intellectual as fine literature?
Rankerquat 1 month ago
I do think it's curious that in talking about the merits and advantages of adult discussion regarding issues in the culture, Bob didn't bring up Metroid Other M, even though that game brought about more conversations about gender in gaming than any other in the last five years. Maybe its a coincidence, perhaps he felt the discussions didn't have enough merit, or Metroid M brought about the wrong kind of gender discussion in his mind, but it does make me wonder.
MerelyAFan 1 month ago
2:37 to skip bullshit.
Fuzzy192006 1 month ago 34
@Fuzzy192006 Thank you! Why is it that every critic think they have to have storylines?
RowdyRodimus 1 week ago
@Fuzzy192006 OMFG THANK YOU!!!
KingCosades 2 days ago
@Fuzzy192006 I like the "bullshit" :P
Tomaius2000 1 day ago
Doesn't the Metal Gear Solid series emphasise the negative aspects of war, and still have a huge fandom?
turelavatar 1 month ago
Go to 2:48 if you wish to skip the opening story stuff, or go to 0:00 to watch it like I did.
Solereaper21 1 month ago
I agree with you though metal gear always played on how war was fucked up. but yeah everything else you are right
drunkendan 1 month ago in playlist More videos from moviebob
I agree with the majority of what Bob said but he left out the Metal Gear Series. Metal Gear Series has always been a triple A "military" game that focuses on the "horrors of war". Yes metal gear can not compete with Stanley Kubrick films or Apocalypse Now but let us not forget that the series exists or that no video game(s) has ever attempted similar themes or symbolism.
frostbitten205 1 month ago
I think a game like that might sell well enough, after all, the Metal Gear Solid games don't exactly have a too positive light of what Snake and any other character is doing, of course that's a series that attracted most of it's fans back when most storys in games were alot simpler, and the fact that it was a game with a serious story was new and intreresting, so maybe not, but it's worth a try
ZeroMilanmon 1 month ago in playlist Flere videoer fra moviebob
@malestrithe Which never happened
httm241 1 month ago
14:17
Correction: Katanas AND european medieval swords are cliché.
Tarik360 1 month ago
the beginning story about gods and steel is from conan...that is all
GinGeeK 1 month ago
I think the game you are looking for is called Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots.
Either that or 6 Days in Fallujah.
malestrithe 1 month ago
Thanks for doing nearly no skits in this episode.
Nekkx 1 month ago
I'm surprised you didn't mention Six Days in Fallujah, which was a great example of a game trying to talk about the negative aspects of war, especially in the middle east. However it met a lot of controversy for trying to do so and the publisher bailed on it.
Jeffenburg 1 month ago
I defiantly agree with you on a lot of what you said. Gamers really do need to grow up and let people try their own way, not the "hard core" way. Right now, video games are being taken seriously by the people who matter to the industry, the gamers, but just because games like farmville and angry birds are played more by non-gamers doesn't mean that the artsy and mature games won't go away. Video games aren't going nowhere, but let people try games that interest them.
Ironbat92 1 month ago
(Part 5 of 5) Despite obviously taking place in semi-fictional universes and featuring their own stories, those three games take a look at the growing control of governments over society and the ensuing abuse of powers, the timelessness of circumstances surrounding conflict and the shaping of history, and finally the effects of letting the economy and society in general be shaped by a growing dedication to war.
GameBushidoDotCom 1 month ago
(Part 4 of 5) Those movies and others have been exploiting 9/11 and the elements that followed it just as much as games have, because as you've already stated, these modern times have been shaped by those events; in other words, gaming and movies both simply make use of interests that are relevant in current times. You want games that examine the world around those events as opposed to simply using them, check out the Metal Gear series; Metal Gear Solid 2, 3 and 4 specifically.
GameBushidoDotCom 1 month ago
(Part 3 of 5) Said games also happen to be some of the biggest sellers in modern gaming, and coupled with many people's obsession with guns and warfare especially in the US, they naturally attract more attention. Those games aren't feeding off of 9/11 so much as they're feeding off of the renewed interest in war that has made its way into modern society. Movies haven't avoided making use of those sentiments any more than gaming did; just look at the new Transformers movies and Avatar.
GameBushidoDotCom 1 month ago
(Part 2 of 5) Sure some people roll their eyes at the very mention of words like "casual" or "mobile", but those are simply the less mature, less appreciative members of the gaming community; every medium has those kinds of people, but it doesn't define the medium itself. As for the whole 9/11 thing, I simply can't agree at all. Obviously games like Call of Duty and Battlefield thrive off of it, that's just what they do; they're essentially gaming's equivalent to exploitation movies.
GameBushidoDotCom 1 month ago
I agree with some of the thoughts expressed in this video, mostly that some gamers don't want to take casual gaming seriously, but I disagree with the thought process behind that. It's not that mobile and casual gaming in general doesn't get respect, it's just that a lot of it -- notably a lot of the games you would find on Facebook and basically anything made by Zynga -- is little more than barely interactive time wasters that suck money out of the less knowledgeable consumers. (Part 1 of 5)
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KurosanNitebird 1 month ago
Boy, those three cars sure circled the block a lot when you were making your blade
SPkx1 1 month ago
It was not forced you need to pay attention. He is making a point as to why it is hard to take video games seriously. Hollywood was classy in the post 9/11 events and video games were overall childish.
kidsteal 1 month ago
@kidsteal Classy might be kinda subjective, don'cha think?
Dinker27 1 month ago
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as for gamers maturing
im not sure
maybe it will turn like hollywood and show up amazing though provoking stuff
but just like hollywood there are a lot of crap that come up but like you said in responce to social awakening its diffrent
i personaly believe that games went the steriotype racist way only for a quick buck
and its for that reason games are looked down
we are starting to want more interesting and masterful games
but maybe im being too optimistic
esfelectra 1 month ago
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esfelectra 1 month ago
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would we buy a triple A though provoking game?
personally i'd say the oposite and say yes
yes it might work but maybe not as much as Call of duty
im in the bad position to want video games to be though provoking
and not know what other gamers want
if they want fun fun fun or just knowing stuff and thinking
as for gamers growing up i believe its more like a small kid saying he wants to be an adult while still laughting at fart jokes
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esfelectra 1 month ago
people were buying the brothers in arms games right?
mas92 1 month ago
some of what is said here makes sense and I agree with. you lost me with the war on terror segment, that was forced and did not really say anything. Yes COD is a game about war.
c0d3m45t3r 1 month ago
Hey, Bob! The Metal Gear Solid does this part of giving us the thoughtful side of war, instead of being just war shooter fun. But yeah, there are not many series like this one, right? :(
fellgo 1 month ago
This video got me to start reading the Hulk blog, for that I am very grateful :)
MrEpitome22 1 month ago
"Sometimes we just want to get to the fucking point with these things."
Too true, Bob. Too. True.
randyronald 1 month ago
that 8bit music in the beginning of the video sounds familiar, anyone know what it is?
lemonfryer 1 month ago
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Ketorulz 1 month ago
How can you end an episode like that with "Stab em in the fucking face"? Come on, man.
myshoescramp 1 month ago
nothing but truth.
dewfish 1 month ago
11:34 50 Cent shoots brown people: The Game, ugh, forgot about that till you brought it up Bob. And to think X-Play gave a passing review, which would probably be one of those retrospective moments when that show officially lost credibility in my eye.
theblocksays 1 month ago
Glad to see more of your Game Overthinker videos, been waiting a long time. Regardless of what people think, continue to do what you please with them. I find the story lines fun and refreshing.
Tebrial 1 month ago 12
They use "Bitch" word for Bruce Wayne too. And that's during the first 5 mins.
These guys are hardcore criminals who had almost no schooling, most likely they had little luck when it comes to women as it is. And then some female thief drops in and starts beating the crap out of them and they are powerless to stop her! They can't stop Catwoman, so they do only thing they can with their broken egos: insult her verbally.
It's there for atmosphere. Game is trying to be semi-realistic after all.
Arppis 1 month ago 24
@Arppis
But yeah, just wanted to say that, my two cents about the Batman game. Game is just trying to build the characters closer to prisoner mind-set there.
Arppis 1 month ago
@Arppis It is a bit weird, though, that the bad guys are sexist but not racist.
Sylocat 1 month ago
@Sylocat
Hmm... you mean like they don't fight eachothers when their skincolor is diffirent. They are in a way, but the racism goes to uniforms in this one. XD
But hm, good point.
Arppis 1 month ago
@Arppis They were doing realism with Batman. They weren't even pretending you could do realism with Catwoman. She jumps 50 feet, weighs 40lbs and has no weapons but she can take 10 dudes each muscled and weighed 5 times as much as her? Get real
DarkW0lverine 1 month ago
@DarkW0lverine
Did say "semi" realistic. And that's mostly the atmosphere. It's a video game in the end, you should come to expect these kind of things, especialy when the story is about rich man dressed as bat, beating poor criminals on the streets. But still, it doesn't mean that they should just abandon realism all together, it's smart to try to bring that grit and bit of personality to these side characters. It's just how these prisoners would most likely behave.
Arppis 1 month ago
@Arppis Yeah. It's a game about a billionaire ninja detective who dresses up as a bat and uses James Bond gadgets to beat up clowns, 30s-era stereotypical gangsters, and a centuries-old alchemist, but they had to make the prison dialogue "realistic" because all of our immersion was hanging on that one specific detail.
So how did The Dark Knight pull off its atmosphere 10 times better with almost no misogyny?
falseprophecy 1 month ago
@falseprophecy
Again with the bi-polarity... It doesn't hang on that detail. Even if they would remove the blood from the game, it wouldn't stop me from being immersed. But I can see the reasons why they are calling her "bitch". And Dark Knight didn't have female beating up thugs with weak ego. People seem to fail at noticing that these guys don't give a damn about are they mysagonist or not. Game developers aren't psychopaths just because Joker is, for example...
Arppis 1 month ago 7
Low blow with RHatO reference, it's trying it's best. Still found this enjoyable and informative though.
Jarrid 1 month ago