What IS all this? It conforms perfectly to ragtime 'rules'. It's ragged time. Period. What other 'rules' are there? Joplin's "Ragtime must be played slowly?" Well, this is slow. It's not typical, but a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
John Arpin, óriási zenész, élmény volt őt hallghatni élőben és beszélni vele. (Habár ez a "halál" ez ilyen földi téma, én pl. rettentően unom). Úgyis, az igazi nagyok halhatatlanok...
While the St. Louis ivory ticklers had a very stern set of rules concerning their performances, the Eastern seaboard bunch, including Lamb, were far more loose, given to tempo changes and their own improvisations at whatever point they chose: two "styles" of early ragtime, yes, and one does not negate the other. The beauty in Arpin's interpretation is simply outstanding to those of us who have listened and read as carefully as one should.
He adds some novelty piano licks, and does them same every time. If he is going to make an arrangement he should look for contrast, but I guess John Arpin was not a great improviser.
If you're going to break music down to pure terms and technical devisions, then all you're succeeding in doing, Alajandrogaby, is destroying what music is supposed to do and be.
Okay, so it doesn't conform to Ragtime rules, so what? It sounds great, and people enjoy it. How could you possibly fault it??
I believe that Ragtime is all about interpretation and feeling. It's like the Blues(slower with hope) and also European Classical music(hence the different style to the Blues). As long as you enjoy it, it's ragtime!
Well said fobohem. The great thing about the piano is that it is an instrument which can be used to convey all different shades of emotion and the performer should use it as a tool to personalize his/her feelings while playing it.
I am no musician and thus cannot comment on style or pace but,yes,I know,the tiresome "but",this is lovely music played so lightly and yet precisely.Thank you all.
putrid11 & aardvaark069: Mr. Arpin knew most of the important ragtime and jazz figures including Mr. Lamb. You probably haven't seen the enthusiasm on the face of Patricia, J. Lamb's daughter who just simply loved Arpin's playing. Music (ragtime included) is not something that HAS TO BE PLAYED this or that way. It ain't music then. You surely never met John Arpin and never talked to him about music and life. His playing reflects his personality. He exactly knew what style and music is about.
Excuse me, I don`t what kind of relationship Arpin had with Lamb`s daughter. I just know that his playing doesn`t sound like ragtime. Doesn`t have a beat. You cannot dance to it, sincopation is not stressed enough, ahd there are fermattas all over the place, in exactly the same spot, it gets kind of boring don`t you think. He takes away all the excitement ragtime should have and replaces it with finesse and delicaty which belong somewhere else
Rubbish sir, it is fine to play ragtime as a concert rag, any afficianado knows the difference. There is a nice piece on you tube with Eubie Blake playing an exceprt for Chopin's Funeral March (PC No 2). Ragtime can be exciting, fast, base but it can also be 'concert' as well.
@Alejandrogaby Non-conformance to ragtime nuances, this may be. But it won't stop me from enjoying it! Although after several times listening, the inconstant temple does get to me a little.
Where's the beat???? Did Mr. Arpin, a noted pianist, never listen to Lamb's own recordings. This is, pardon the expression, "faggoty cocktail piano", not ragtime which is pop dance music not Chopin, despite Lamb's lifting of the opening left hand passage from a Chopin etude. Arpin is dropping mordents like dandruff...it is truly annoying.
The contemptible and snide attack by a tall poppy lopper, posting as putrid, shows little taste or accuracy other than in his or her selection of a poison pen name.
What an engaging and engaged performance this is. Many thanks for posting it.
Touché. It is an Arpin performance, masterful. Great players play popular music their own way. Eubie, Fats, Zez, Bernard, Alpert...all made it their own. John's playing and our memories of him will be around long after creeps like putrid are dead.
I have always thought that Max Morath set the standard for this rag with its delicious phrasing and poignancy and lilt. But this version is mighty, mighty beautiful. I like it just about as well! And I'd give anything to hear Mr. Arpin's take on "American Beauty."
I had his recording of this piece and it had very little embelishments but these are both very tasteful performances. Out of all the ragtime pianists I heard he has by far the best phrasing.
That is exactly what I have always thought. He adds just the right amount of volume in just the right areas. I get the phrasing very similar to his, but I can't add the number of notes that he adds. I can't even to listen to other recordings after hearing his. (Besides mine of course :D)
great performance, I mean - the man's got talent, but he needs to be out there, not performing for a stage full of middle class toffs. That man needs to be in the ACTION!
Um, you might want to pay attention to the description of the video. If you had read it, you would have noticed that John Arpin died in Sept 2007. It's gonna be a bit tough for him to "get out there."
It would be wonderful if he was out there , not performing for a bunch of middle class toffs , but sadly he died not so long ago from the dreaded damn Cancer !
Beautifully played and interpreted regardless of what the ragtime police have to say.
PianoFatso 2 months ago
It's perfect.
ragtimist 2 months ago
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ragtimist 2 months ago
Again, i am back to John Arpin's music. OMY, i am just so in-love with this again! I couldn't be any happier!
RicAbapo 4 months ago
Something he clearly enjoyed - he had a touch and nuance for the keys. Technology rocks for being able to save his talent for us. Thanks for posting.
mdmphd 10 months ago
oh God how i love ragtime! :)
RicAbapo 11 months ago
What a beautiful interpretation and control of dynamics.
infey 11 months ago
This a fine pianist ....He has a true understanding of style and performance ..... no amateur here....
ancientone22 1 year ago
What IS all this? It conforms perfectly to ragtime 'rules'. It's ragged time. Period. What other 'rules' are there? Joplin's "Ragtime must be played slowly?" Well, this is slow. It's not typical, but a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
ianjcameron 1 year ago
A lovely rendition. I'm a great fan of Joseph Lamb & of John Arpin too!
diapason007 1 year ago
Alejandrogaby, you know absolutely nothing about music. This is performed just as the composer would have wanted it performed.
Meloontunes 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for sharing!
I always loved that piece and enjoyed listening very much,
Lilly
LillyC68 1 year ago
here I finally found recording of this beautiful rag the way I would play it if I could. I think it is perfect...
pianoman1984 1 year ago
i don't see the difference, sounds like classical piano, not ragtime at all
darklight436 1 year ago
So beautiful. Thank you for posting. RIP Mr. Arpin
CaliTrisha 1 year ago
After watching this a few times, i can see it's really excellent. You can clearly see how connected to the music he is!
CooCurrent 1 year ago
I can feel it... the romance when a couple sits by the moonlight... It's a sweet feeling... John Arpin will live on...
GoTFCanada1230 1 year ago
Fantastic playing. Thanks for sharing this.
bulbheadmyass 1 year ago
Yes he was truely a great pianist. I am just amazed at how beautiful this rag is when he plays. This is
my favorite rag onYouTube and it isn't easy to pick out a favorite. I wish I would have seen him perform this live. Fantastic
mewhite1528 1 year ago
The guy is a classical pianist. Concert standard I'd guess.
vimana19 2 years ago
John Arpin, óriási zenész, élmény volt őt hallghatni élőben és beszélni vele. (Habár ez a "halál" ez ilyen földi téma, én pl. rettentően unom). Úgyis, az igazi nagyok halhatatlanok...
likemyviolin 2 years ago 2
meltingly beautiful...thank you for this wonderful version...
lauraneville 2 years ago 5
esecuzione che senz'altro fa sognare!
maurofoil 2 years ago 2
@maurofoil
Random Italian! Sí!
C3P0meetsData 1 year ago
That was simply incredible. The best ragtime piano I've ever heard. That was heartbreakingly beautiful. What a brilliant player.
greasepuddle 2 years ago 3
This is my goal! His legacy lives on.
maddenjunkies 2 years ago
The control on those trils towards the end must take a lot of skill.
ChrisPatuzzo 2 years ago
While the St. Louis ivory ticklers had a very stern set of rules concerning their performances, the Eastern seaboard bunch, including Lamb, were far more loose, given to tempo changes and their own improvisations at whatever point they chose: two "styles" of early ragtime, yes, and one does not negate the other. The beauty in Arpin's interpretation is simply outstanding to those of us who have listened and read as carefully as one should.
38pasadena 2 years ago
Love this - excellent performance.
girljazzlvr 2 years ago
He adds some novelty piano licks, and does them same every time. If he is going to make an arrangement he should look for contrast, but I guess John Arpin was not a great improviser.
Alejandrogaby 2 years ago
What a useless Critic.
ByePaulette 2 years ago
Please respond using musical terms
Alejandrogaby 2 years ago
If you're going to break music down to pure terms and technical devisions, then all you're succeeding in doing, Alajandrogaby, is destroying what music is supposed to do and be.
Okay, so it doesn't conform to Ragtime rules, so what? It sounds great, and people enjoy it. How could you possibly fault it??
Fragglezed 2 years ago 14
I believe that Ragtime is all about interpretation and feeling. It's like the Blues(slower with hope) and also European Classical music(hence the different style to the Blues). As long as you enjoy it, it's ragtime!
AurignyATR72 2 years ago
Exactly!
Alejandrogaby quit being a fag
RagingForce 2 years ago
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audiofile7 2 years ago
@Fragglezed I agree
I know all the rules. But if the rules don't fit, I break the rules rather than the music.
CooCurrent 1 year ago
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audiofile7 2 years ago
He really looks like he's enjoying himself. :)
GeneralHobog 2 years ago 2
Marvellous! Thanks for sharing.
rboneh 2 years ago
Well said fobohem. The great thing about the piano is that it is an instrument which can be used to convey all different shades of emotion and the performer should use it as a tool to personalize his/her feelings while playing it.
strausss 3 years ago 2
I am no musician and thus cannot comment on style or pace but,yes,I know,the tiresome "but",this is lovely music played so lightly and yet precisely.Thank you all.
Squarerig 3 years ago
putrid11 & aardvaark069: Mr. Arpin knew most of the important ragtime and jazz figures including Mr. Lamb. You probably haven't seen the enthusiasm on the face of Patricia, J. Lamb's daughter who just simply loved Arpin's playing. Music (ragtime included) is not something that HAS TO BE PLAYED this or that way. It ain't music then. You surely never met John Arpin and never talked to him about music and life. His playing reflects his personality. He exactly knew what style and music is about.
fobohem 3 years ago
Excuse me, I don`t what kind of relationship Arpin had with Lamb`s daughter. I just know that his playing doesn`t sound like ragtime. Doesn`t have a beat. You cannot dance to it, sincopation is not stressed enough, ahd there are fermattas all over the place, in exactly the same spot, it gets kind of boring don`t you think. He takes away all the excitement ragtime should have and replaces it with finesse and delicaty which belong somewhere else
Alejandrogaby 2 years ago
I agree.
and
*Most rag performers that I see are aged people with beards.
MusicalYoshi 2 years ago
Rubbish sir, it is fine to play ragtime as a concert rag, any afficianado knows the difference. There is a nice piece on you tube with Eubie Blake playing an exceprt for Chopin's Funeral March (PC No 2). Ragtime can be exciting, fast, base but it can also be 'concert' as well.
TheBestRichy 2 years ago
@Alejandrogaby Non-conformance to ragtime nuances, this may be. But it won't stop me from enjoying it! Although after several times listening, the inconstant temple does get to me a little.
joejoejoe532 5 months ago
Musta got this from Liberace himself. It surely ain't Lamb. Kinda nice in a cocktail loungey kinda way.
aardvaark069 3 years ago
Where's the beat???? Did Mr. Arpin, a noted pianist, never listen to Lamb's own recordings. This is, pardon the expression, "faggoty cocktail piano", not ragtime which is pop dance music not Chopin, despite Lamb's lifting of the opening left hand passage from a Chopin etude. Arpin is dropping mordents like dandruff...it is truly annoying.
putrid11 3 years ago
The contemptible and snide attack by a tall poppy lopper, posting as putrid, shows little taste or accuracy other than in his or her selection of a poison pen name.
What an engaging and engaged performance this is. Many thanks for posting it.
rupepill 3 years ago 3
Touché. It is an Arpin performance, masterful. Great players play popular music their own way. Eubie, Fats, Zez, Bernard, Alpert...all made it their own. John's playing and our memories of him will be around long after creeps like putrid are dead.
gdw1910 3 years ago 3
I have always thought that Max Morath set the standard for this rag with its delicious phrasing and poignancy and lilt. But this version is mighty, mighty beautiful. I like it just about as well! And I'd give anything to hear Mr. Arpin's take on "American Beauty."
livingaragtimelife 3 years ago
GR8 song
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emjaylg 3 years ago
Wow... beautiful :O
ikitoki 3 years ago 3
I had his recording of this piece and it had very little embelishments but these are both very tasteful performances. Out of all the ragtime pianists I heard he has by far the best phrasing.
nickus32000 3 years ago
That is exactly what I have always thought. He adds just the right amount of volume in just the right areas. I get the phrasing very similar to his, but I can't add the number of notes that he adds. I can't even to listen to other recordings after hearing his. (Besides mine of course :D)
Shademastermcc 3 years ago 2
i love that rag, but it like it more in the documentary of Crumb
andaysa 4 years ago
Wow. I've never heard a better performance of this rag.
nathanmickle 4 years ago 2
great performance, I mean - the man's got talent, but he needs to be out there, not performing for a stage full of middle class toffs. That man needs to be in the ACTION!
sbkynetik 4 years ago 2
Um, you might want to pay attention to the description of the video. If you had read it, you would have noticed that John Arpin died in Sept 2007. It's gonna be a bit tough for him to "get out there."
tmartinfsa 3 years ago 2
It would be wonderful if he was out there , not performing for a bunch of middle class toffs , but sadly he died not so long ago from the dreaded damn Cancer !
steinwaygrande1 3 years ago
what a great video... what a music, I know that piece however that is...miles away from anything else I even hear...
thanks for that...5s
EPENAEED 4 years ago 2
5 stars!
slavophile1 4 years ago
Another perfect performance!
5 STARS!
Tom Warner
tdub1941 4 years ago 2
This guy adds some great improvisational touches without changing the integrity of the piece. He's good. I especially like the trio.
captaintrub 4 years ago