Rafael is a BIG baby. He needs to grow up and let his mother be happy. All she wants to do is share her happiness with him. The "Heart" can't control who it falls in love with. Beautiful love story between these two women.
What is wrong with these people?(RAFE,FRANK,MARINA).... I think Frank enjoys making Natalia feel guilty and she is falling for it. Frank needs to go find himself a woman and Rafe needs to stop acting like a Spalding all full of self -righteusness and start being a man and of course Olivia gets hurt and confused in the end. Maybe Olivia and The Mayor should go out on a Girl's NITE OUT and paint the town red,blue yellow,green every damn color....sorry venting again...
I know how you feel about Frank and Rafe. I try to cut them out if it isn't Otalia related. I have even cut out Rafe when it was Otalia related as he annoys me to no end. I certainly will only put them on if it has to do with the storyline from now on.
I don't understand Rafe right now as he was so nice during the wedding and when Otalia would visit. He was supposed to have "changed" yet we never saw him act like an ass when he was in prison. I'm not getting Rafe's characterization at all.
As much as Rafe is bothering me now, his reaction is not totally out of line. He thought his mom and Olivia were just friends. That certainly played a part in how he treated them before finding out.
What bugs me more about him is not the Otalia reaction, but how jerky he's been in general about being home and not wanting to spend time with his mom then, and his poor me attitude.
While Marina's statement was rather harsh, she has a point. Natalia always sits back waiting for things to happen to her, and she never really takes responsibility for her decisions. One minute she's confused, the next she's sure. I think with Rafe finding out like he did will allow Nat some growing room. Marina was taking up for a man who she perceives as being "a good man", and her father. Frank placed himself smack in the middle of it all, and Marina knows nothing.
I agree that Natalia has a history of passivity in some ways and that leads to things like this, and Doris telling Frank about Otalia rather than Natalia doing it. But I think they are piling the criticism on too much. Natalia has stood on her own two feet for most of her life and usually gets in these situations because she is trying too hard not to hurt or disappoint someone.
And yes, Marina knows nothing. Natalia didn't ask for a judge to force her to have a mentor for Rafe, adn she certainly didn't ask Frank to do it. And Frank is overstepping this role big time. He should have told Rafe to go home and work things out with his mother.
You're welcome! There was something off about Marina. I feel for Frank but then I really wonder if his feelings for Natalia were just lust (Which is understandable!) and because she paid attention to him. I never felt any chemistry or love. Hey even Buzz was questioning the marriage on Frank's wedding day.
I feel that Marina could of handled that a little better. It should be between Frank and Natalia as she hated it when Frank got between her and her lovers.
once again I'm saying that the Coopers are the most judgmental family in this town. I think only Alan is worse than them.
manicpl 2 years ago
Rafael is a BIG baby. He needs to grow up and let his mother be happy. All she wants to do is share her happiness with him. The "Heart" can't control who it falls in love with. Beautiful love story between these two women.
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tjshotunde 2 years ago
What is wrong with these people?(RAFE,FRANK,MARINA).... I think Frank enjoys making Natalia feel guilty and she is falling for it. Frank needs to go find himself a woman and Rafe needs to stop acting like a Spalding all full of self -righteusness and start being a man and of course Olivia gets hurt and confused in the end. Maybe Olivia and The Mayor should go out on a Girl's NITE OUT and paint the town red,blue yellow,green every damn color....sorry venting again...
tariusblue 2 years ago
As far as I'm concern...and yes... I do know it's part of the story!
BUT... in the future...you can keep Frank and r'ASS out of these videos!
alixsb 2 years ago
I know how you feel about Frank and Rafe. I try to cut them out if it isn't Otalia related. I have even cut out Rafe when it was Otalia related as he annoys me to no end. I certainly will only put them on if it has to do with the storyline from now on.
I don't understand Rafe right now as he was so nice during the wedding and when Otalia would visit. He was supposed to have "changed" yet we never saw him act like an ass when he was in prison. I'm not getting Rafe's characterization at all.
Leezhard 2 years ago
As much as Rafe is bothering me now, his reaction is not totally out of line. He thought his mom and Olivia were just friends. That certainly played a part in how he treated them before finding out.
What bugs me more about him is not the Otalia reaction, but how jerky he's been in general about being home and not wanting to spend time with his mom then, and his poor me attitude.
mudpiegirl 2 years ago
That was a quick upload... Thanks... I really can't stand Marina!!!! I was Natalia would have slapped her!!!
JLCCGL143 2 years ago
While Marina's statement was rather harsh, she has a point. Natalia always sits back waiting for things to happen to her, and she never really takes responsibility for her decisions. One minute she's confused, the next she's sure. I think with Rafe finding out like he did will allow Nat some growing room. Marina was taking up for a man who she perceives as being "a good man", and her father. Frank placed himself smack in the middle of it all, and Marina knows nothing.
KaSee007 2 years ago
I agree that Natalia has a history of passivity in some ways and that leads to things like this, and Doris telling Frank about Otalia rather than Natalia doing it. But I think they are piling the criticism on too much. Natalia has stood on her own two feet for most of her life and usually gets in these situations because she is trying too hard not to hurt or disappoint someone.
mudpiegirl 2 years ago
And yes, Marina knows nothing. Natalia didn't ask for a judge to force her to have a mentor for Rafe, adn she certainly didn't ask Frank to do it. And Frank is overstepping this role big time. He should have told Rafe to go home and work things out with his mother.
mudpiegirl 2 years ago
You're welcome! There was something off about Marina. I feel for Frank but then I really wonder if his feelings for Natalia were just lust (Which is understandable!) and because she paid attention to him. I never felt any chemistry or love. Hey even Buzz was questioning the marriage on Frank's wedding day.
I feel that Marina could of handled that a little better. It should be between Frank and Natalia as she hated it when Frank got between her and her lovers.
Leezhard 2 years ago
Thanks for the upload Leez. Ahhh the angst again.
Litigatorcat 2 years ago
You're welcome! I'm trying to get the uploads up as quick as possible.
Leezhard 2 years ago