what's with all the shaq worship? 5 gasol's would be better....shaq can't hit a free throw or a 3 pointer....Can't dunk on anyone away from the basket......Can't shake 1/4 as good as someone like Tim hardaway....Does he have any year mvp's or scoring titles? Went from playing with penny to kobe to suns, lebron, now to Kg..... I'm sorry but he's just BIG!! Hakeem was a far more talented center.....Time to retire shaq.... and make rap videos and bad movies.....
Well.. Webber played against Shaq & Kobe during those championships. He would know how dominant Shaq was in the paint. He would have the best point of reference in this matter, and as soon as Chuck said what he did, you could see the unbelief in his face. I'll take Chris' opinion.
its funny how peer pressure works, charles was right though. The first laker championships, they were playing the hof players who had gotten to old. They young stars all got injured grant hill,mcdyss,hardaway,gugliottia,brandon. I mean seriously when the lakers beat the pacers 4 of the pacers retired after that season. chuck was right about this and then he said the suns would make it to the western finals and everyone called him crazy. chuck is crazy though quit gambling all your money fool!
but see how charles is dead on with some things he says and intentionally goofs off on other bullshi just to play devil's advocate. charles is alot smarter than people give him credit for. what hes says here? is dead truth. this is a better laker team than 99-02. we have a much better more athletic and deeper team now. yes i love the old team. but lets get real.
i think my IQ just dropped 100 points from listening to chuck talk basketball I mean seriously!!???, i share c-webbs' frustration, a nutless monkey could do a better job then chuck
DAMMMMM!!! Charles got shut up. I love how Charles says sumn and den u can tell he realizes he was wrong but instead of sayn dam i was wrong he tries to back himself up its hilarious.
@lakershd hahahaha omgg wtff Why so mad??? I'm just saying that the fact that you said that Bynum CAN defend ANY bigman is wrong.. cuz he struggled against alot of big men...
@jimmychuang True, Kobe rod of Shaq's & Horry's back in clutch in 1st 3 rings. Harper was another veteran who played very good perimeter Defense. great points.
Now the Lakers are the most dominate team in the league, they got Ron Artest which was a big upgrade and they got a healthy Bynum and he is a MONSTER, putting up 20 points and 10 boards a game, and of course we got Kobe the best player in the world, the Lakers have a incredible bench, now all we are waiting for is Pau Gasol to come back from injury which will be soon, and the Lakers are going to be ready for another championship
yep you're right man, we do! Kevin's old knee will give out again, Rasheed will get tossed out, Ray Allen will only be able to play 20 minutes a game and will be sent home to watch matlock and drink his prune juice and Kobe, Gasol, FULLY HEALTHY young 7 footer named Bynum (who didnt even in play in that series and is averaging 20 and 10 this year) will CRUSH boston..yep we all know how it will go!! lol (Assuming Boston even makes it to finals, way they're playing this season...doubtful)
lol i love LA delusion. You guy's are playing in a weak conference and you have yet to go on a long road trip. In fact with stepper competetion the celtics have only one more loss than LA and we dont rely on miracle last minute shots to save us from Miami.
weaker conference? LMFAO since when? East has like three good teams, in west theres like 6 that could win whole championship. In fact that season they won east was at its weakest in years, you could be 10 games under .500 and make playoffs (u still can in east this year). In west there were teams ten games above and couldnt make playoffs. Talk about delusional, face it celts are OLD, injury prone, washed up, talent depleted..aka DONEZO.
Celtics- 16-4 washed up? Yeah I dont think so man. They are going to wrap up Kobe in the finals just like they did in 08. Like you said before there are 3 teams in the East Cavs, Orlando, Boston. There is no tother team in the west that is feasibly going to make it to the finals. Trust me Boston will wind up with the best record in the league. Conference champs and NBA champs
LOL dude nuggets, suns, trailblazers and even spurs, any of those teams can make it to finals and WIN, especially nuggets. But there's no point arguing lets just wait til the season ends, may the best team win lol.
but charles is right potentialy this team is better you got kobe add gasol to that a fit bynum fisher with farmer to come on also artest know argubaly odom is the best 6th man in the league yea adam morrison and brown there trades where a barging and you got shasha and walton to that and dg mbenga its the best team in the league
The old Lakers team was a lot more dominant both offensible and defensible than today's Lakers. Charles realized that he was wrong and at the end he added "Potentially". Lol
Today's Lakers will have to stay healthy and improve in both offense(role players) and defense (everyone's job) only time will tell.
And to a certain extent they won the championsihp this year and made it to the finals last year and are now the odds on fave to win it again next year....face it kobe is one of the greatest of all time, and no matter how much people hate, that wont change
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Barkley your an asshole and a fool the Celtics won the championship after you stuck your foot in your mouth as you have over and over again. How does all that leather taste FOOL?
For Sierra 688. You are ridiculous to call Odom a role player. Just because him and Scola had similiar stats for one season do not make them comparable. They do totally different things for their teams. I am not even going to go into this b/c there is no point. Lets just stop making retarded comments. Thanks.
Chuck is wrong on this one. This is actually a very unimpressive Laker team compared to other great teams. Odom is not a great player. His production is about the same as that of Luis Scola, which puts him as a solid role player. Gasol is a legit star player, but last year's Finals exposed his weakness as an interior defender and rebounder. Bynum is a good big, but also no more than a role player.
well ur never gonna know if he is or not.. 2 injuries on knees at such a young age.. ur never gonna know. but i tell u wat,, he has a great potential.. hes long, shot blokcer and a great finisher..
so he is freak accident prone i guess as oppose to injury prone. Bynum is long, a good shot blocker, but i dont think he has a long enough body of work to be called a great finisher..
What about the 1999-2000 Lakers that went 67-15? These guys killed other teams, with a win margin of +9.0, even with a 21-year-old Kobe missing 16 regular season games. 27-year-old Shaq and a 32-year-old but still capable Glen Rice. Not to mention a supporting cast of Ron Harper, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, AC Grean, and Brian Shaw. In my opinion, this was the best team Kobe's been apart of.
i said potentially and Charles changes potentially too.. that team killed those teams because the opponents are much easier compared to teams in the NBA right now. supporting cast off set cuz this team has great talent.. Kobes much better now so i think this team CAN be a better team than that in the future.
i hope they just suspended chuck and not fired him, and they should add webber on permanetly he rolls with the jokes and adds sum himself... i agree wit lakersfan that this is the best show on TV I stay up till 1AM wit 730 classes to watch this. Is there any video of the show wit gary payton when they announced the allstar lineups?
this year's (2008-2009) will be the start of another dynasty that can rival the 2000-2002 lakers. they just have more weapons now with Kobe playing more mature then the start of the Kobe of 00-02.
Dude, those Lakers were just too deep. I mean, they had two of the best five players in the game at the time in Kobe and Shaq (with shaq being the best), GREAT role players in Robert Horry, Derek Fisher, and Brian shaw, and a great supporting cast in Ron Harper, AC Greene, and Glenn Rice. I think that Laker team is better than the Celtics.
Do u think the lakers 2000-02 could beat the champion celtics 08? ...dont get me wrong im a laker fan thru n thru ...just sayin the lakers and celtivs have insane line ups that the rest of the league look so far behind but they have great rosters as well disregarding the bottom feeders
Yes, I do. Lakers had 3 MVP caliber players in Bryant, O'Neal, and Rice playing in their primes, plus allstar caliber players on the bench and other positions. The Celtics have no real MVP calibers (none of the Big Three are better than All-Star starter) and 4 all stars in the big three and rondo.
Those Lakers had Shaq and a selfish Kobe with a supporting cast. This team has a mature Kobe (who's playing the best ball of his career)Pau, Bynm, Odom and a great supporting cast.
Hahahaha!!!! You don't know how many times I've gotten into debates with Laker fans over the past 2 months when it comes to Kobe. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been told I'm "not a real Laker fan" because I don't say Kobe's the best player or that he's better than MJ.
The Celtics and their fans could care less about having the best player. All the Cetics and their fans want is the Championship at the end of the year. The Celtics have 17 of them. Rasheed Wallace has been added and all he wants is another championship ring. He could care less about Kobe as long as the Celtics win #18. Saying Kobe is not the best player ever is a mortal sin with Laker fans. You will be debating your ass off if you say that. Good luck.
Why do you get into so many debates if it's childish? I know who was the best in the clutch and it was BILL RUSSELL. His last 2+years at USF they won 55 straight games and 2 NCAA Championships. He was the center of the Olympic baketball team in 1956 that won the Gold. He was the center for the Celtics when they won11N.B.A. titles in 13 years. John Wooden who coached him(and Kareem) called BILL RUSSELL the best defensive player he ever saw. END OF DEBATE.
i agree on that winnin 11 championships out of 13 is dominatin...bill russel is one of the greatest and he wasnt a scorer either his focus was defense and making people around him better, and he was good rebounder
And to a certain extent they won the championsihp this year and made it to the finals last year and are now the odds on fave to win it again next year....face it kobe is one of the greatest of all time, and no matter how much people hate, that wont change
are you stupid?, MJ played is one of the most physical eras of basketball, the hall of famers he went up against was deep. He had to go up against one of the best defensive teams in nba history those late 80's pistons. the pounding he took night in and night out was insane. there are so many ghost fouls in the nba, that the league is becoming a joke. don't get me wrong kobe is a great player, but you cannot say his level of comp is higher than MJ's.
The general competition of right now is better than it was 10-20 years ago. I'm not just talking about HOF's, there are other players who play very well and don't get the credit. Also, what do you call the Celtics of today? Their defense is almost unstoppable when the team is all healthy.
The Celtics needed three perennial all-stars to compete for the title. if you wanna talk about a great defensive team talk about the 04,05, pistons. as far as i am concern Paul Pierce is the celtic's best player and the reason they won the title and please don't say kg he is not even clutch!, Manu Ginobili is a overlooked player at times, he has won 3 titles, olympic gold medal,etc, future hall of famer in my book.
@KOFSoldier another joke. Where R today's hakeems, barkleys, Ewings, mournings, malones, stocktons, robinsons etc etc. Last 10 yrs are the poorest of NBA talent wise, skill wise. Why? straight from highschool plyrs. not taught NCAA bball fundamentals. disguisting european influx only know to shoot & play offense & ZERO defense. NBA of '80s & '90s was the single best era ever with 3 GOAT players. Jordan, Magic, Bird
@mnkhan2020 You mean like Dwight, eventually Greg Oden, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and the likes?
You can't compare their careers right now because the legends have accomplished more because more of them played 15+ years, while these guys have all logged in under 10. Give it time.
The Celtics today is not a heathy team for years. You can only say Celtics in 2008 is same good defense team as Pistons in early 2000s.
The legend is up and down for years, not always good or bad, it's not suitable to use evolution theory on the NBA and claim the legend will be greater yr by yr.
The fact is the legend is not improved as much as international, it shows regress. I mean we got lots stars today but the average is weaker than 10, 20 yrs ago.
The teams this year have gotten smarter with more of a focus on strategy as opposed to instincts. The superstars might've been better, but the average NBA player is better than the average player 10-20 years ago.
@KOFSoldier Not really. If average players are far better than 20 yrs ago, how come we today's NBA teams depend on one or two offense players that much?
Just look around, US basketball is not unbeatable anymore. I don't think its a sign of improved.
dude not even close, the best players were in that era. dont have a good center today period. back then plenty. artest, battier are the best at guarding kobe? none of which will be hof'ers. kobe's got it easy. too easy. him and bron. beck then centers toyed with shaq! well, at least olajuwon did.
Don't take this the wrong way, but how would you know? You were 10 when Jordan last played for the Bulls, so how can you just pull something out of thin air? You were even a kid the 1st 6 season's of Kobe's. The rules changes have killed this era, made the game less physical and easier to score. And the 90s were also part of Kobe's era.
2000s era is soft and no competitions. Lakers won 2 rings, against weakest teams since 1998. The only 2 years that competive are Lakers vs.Celtics, Pistons vs. Spurs. Not so many finals worth to watch in 2000s.
And according to stat, accomplishments, Jordan is far better than Kobe, no doubt.
Outside the court, Jordan was the most popular and well known sportsman in the world.
Kobe benefited from him, but he never impact league that much.
@KOFSoldier Ha ha ha. a serious joke. MJ played in '90s, the single most competitive era ever in NBA history. 2000 kobe decade is like 1970s era. no big men. no real postup game big men like hakeem, shaq, david, malone etc etc..... too many to count. Kobe had it too easy. extremely relaxed zone defense, 3-sec rule. Kobe still struggles to shoot 50%FG. MJ today will ave no less than 40ppg.
@KOFSoldier Dwight aint half a playr barkley was. He lacks charles quickness, agility & IQ. Dwight is just a much better dunker & stronger player than Barkley. Skill wise is where Dwight is not even close to sir charles who won MVP once & got robbed once. should've had 2 MVPs by now. nonetheless, skill wise there can never be another Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Charles, Malone, Stockton, Payton etc etc etc. the list is endless,
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Barkley is an NBA top 50 player,I agree,he was tough,had tenacity,and just plain mean,he played hard,no doubt,but this guy is not a tv personality,hes boring to watch,just like affirmative action in the army,the station has to hire so many blacks,so many whites,and so many other race,plus it dont hurt to be an ex nba player,but no thrill,kenny to,we all how much you won,you say it every show kenny,.
lol. let's see what happens next june, then the june after that, then the june after that. i bet you the lake show will win at least 2 titles the next 5 years.
the potential (key word) of the current lakers team is undoubtedly there. whats hard to swallow about chuck's comments are how he so casually seems to neglect just how much of a SHEER FORCE shaq was in his prime with the lakers. just for emphasis i write again, SHEER FORCE
oh ya i know exactly what you're talking about. barkley throws the ball at shaq's head and so shaq takes a huge swing at barkley but barely missed. i dont even wanna think about how much pain shaq could have inflicted with those humongous arms had he actually landed that blow
I fully agree with your assessment of Shaq with the Lakers and how Barkley seems to forget how much of a monster Shaq was. Shaq has been called the most dominant NBA player EVER, and 95% of that reputation comes from his years with the Lakers, destroying everyone in sight.
I actually can see where Chuck is going with this one, I think this present team might be better than the past team because of Kobe then and Kobe now and how he's developed his passing game.
watchout 2000 to 2002 lakers better shaq kobe ron harper glen rice horry fisher mitch richmond horance grant come on man i can keep goin not includin the first nigga 2 go thru his legs rider and he aint play that much that shows how deep they was
i think chuck may have a point that this team will be better than the kobe-shaq team, cause most of there players are still young and developing, so i think if u give them some time they have the potential to become something great.
2003-2004, of course, with Malone and Payton. But they talk about 2000-2002, Lakers now are a young team, we will see in the future. Shaq is the best dominant center ever, but a frontcourt Odom,Gasol,Bynum....with Kobe MVP for first time. The Only Problem is Fish, the guy is a old man.
Gasol isnt center like shaq, he is power forward and way better than Samaki Walker, and Bynum is still young...And If Bynum in the future is better than Shaq?? We Dont Know that, so potencially they can be better than the old Lakers. Shooters like Vujacic or VladRad, reserve point guard like Jordan Farmar, a FrontCourt with Odom,Gasol and Bynum....
Your as stupid as Charles. Bynum will NEVER b better than Shaq, i am 100% sure, if it ever happens i will eat my own hand. You saying you would wanna take shooters like Farmar and others over Rick Fox, Devean George and Robert Horry? And you want Derek Fisher now over Derek Fisher back then? I reckon the 2003-2004 Lakers were probably the best team even though they lost haha
fox, george, horry, fisher were so much TOUGHER than the lakers role players now. gasol might be more talented but 01-02 horry and walker could have guarded him better than kendrick perkins and leon powe (and those two held him in check lol)
I like Sir Charles. He's funny. But Chris is quite true. Shaq is the bid Deal during his Lakers Time.
annedon13 4 weeks ago
"five pau gusals can't mess with shaq" lol gets me everytime
KingSlug13 5 months ago
Fucking idiot... The Lakers in 2000-2004 were the best Lakers team in their long history
Lakers24pwnz 1 year ago
@Lakers24pwnz cause shaq thats y ....
AutomatikZ187 11 months ago
@Lakers24pwnz Thats not true the 80s team with Magic Worthy and Kareem would murder Shaq and Kobe
michaeleid811 11 months ago 2
Chuck has a very very short memory, that's all..
HymanKaplan 1 year ago
Chuck is a buffoon, man. Makes his occasional pearls of basketball wisdom all that much more surprising.
fr8542 1 year ago
what's with all the shaq worship? 5 gasol's would be better....shaq can't hit a free throw or a 3 pointer....Can't dunk on anyone away from the basket......Can't shake 1/4 as good as someone like Tim hardaway....Does he have any year mvp's or scoring titles? Went from playing with penny to kobe to suns, lebron, now to Kg..... I'm sorry but he's just BIG!! Hakeem was a far more talented center.....Time to retire shaq.... and make rap videos and bad movies.....
davedropd1 1 year ago
Well.. Webber played against Shaq & Kobe during those championships. He would know how dominant Shaq was in the paint. He would have the best point of reference in this matter, and as soon as Chuck said what he did, you could see the unbelief in his face. I'll take Chris' opinion.
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davedropd1 1 year ago
its funny how peer pressure works, charles was right though. The first laker championships, they were playing the hof players who had gotten to old. They young stars all got injured grant hill,mcdyss,hardaway,gugliottia,brandon. I mean seriously when the lakers beat the pacers 4 of the pacers retired after that season. chuck was right about this and then he said the suns would make it to the western finals and everyone called him crazy. chuck is crazy though quit gambling all your money fool!
Kdaddy61987 1 year ago
Chucky does have a valid point though.
Raw000 1 year ago
but see how charles is dead on with some things he says and intentionally goofs off on other bullshi just to play devil's advocate. charles is alot smarter than people give him credit for. what hes says here? is dead truth. this is a better laker team than 99-02. we have a much better more athletic and deeper team now. yes i love the old team. but lets get real.
runelord37 1 year ago
charles is a hate
streethustla24 1 year ago
chunky Barkley is a stupid fat guy
lebronshaqfaction 1 year ago
i think my IQ just dropped 100 points from listening to chuck talk basketball I mean seriously!!???, i share c-webbs' frustration, a nutless monkey could do a better job then chuck
Stillmatic5966 1 year ago
Can Barkley get any stupider????
TheMarxist622 1 year ago
actually, charles has a point. this laker team has won 3-4 rings now i think, this is a stronger team than Shaq and kobe
nikz200 1 year ago
@nikz200 no
lebronshaqfaction 1 year ago
@lebronshaqfaction whats your reasoning for saying this laker team is weaker than Shaq and kobe?
nikz200 1 year ago
one of the best stupid things Chuck said OMG.....
onyxfich 1 year ago
while it doesntt happen often, barkley is actually right. 2010 bosotn was the best team out of all the team kobes ever beaten,
institutionalized22 1 year ago
Gotta love Barkley, C-Webb is mad annoying worst TNT analyst!
beecee219 1 year ago
man barkley is crazy man
lordg17 1 year ago
DAMMMMM!!! Charles got shut up. I love how Charles says sumn and den u can tell he realizes he was wrong but instead of sayn dam i was wrong he tries to back himself up its hilarious.
Zachrydaman 1 year ago 8
@Zachrydaman well actually he was right. that team has been in the finals 3 years in a row and won 2
24forpresident 9 months ago
@24forpresident Ya but the Shaq team won the finals 3x in a row and went to 4 out of 5.
Zachrydaman 8 months ago
oh my he is in it again.
t17ftw 1 year ago
barkley shut up.... chris webber has played against those lakers.... he knows what hes saying
LakeSh0w 1 year ago
chuck is stupid!
LAkingkobe 1 year ago
C-Webb played Kobe and Shaq head to head, Charles hasn't. All he's been doing is ripping on Kobe all of his career.
CPBlazier 1 year ago
THEY ARE ON TRACK SO FAR!!!
mohamudogc 1 year ago
kobe has a better supporting cast then him & shaq did way back when, however nothing can compare to the duo of Shaq & Kobe
lakershd 1 year ago
potentially lol!
saved himself there!
joenathanable 1 year ago
yea fucking chuck talking out of his ass hahaha. shaq and kobe was unstoppable
thesos0 1 year ago
Webber is really cute talking to Chuck like he's his dad. "Chuck, not at the table!" kinda stuff
member00 2 years ago
@member00
CW does have that real distressed look on his face
MrHoopsFanatic 2 years ago
haha charles back peddled nicely
RealspitHiphop604 2 years ago
u guys do know charles is just playing if he doesnt do these kind of antics it wont be entertaining. In my view of course.
CraZzy3n3rGy 2 years ago 2
hahaaa thats soo not truee....Gasol and Bynum can't even defend some of the big men these days....and Shaq at his prime???
clementhel 2 years ago
bynum can defend any bigman
lakershd 1 year ago
@lakershd lol. Bynum can't even defend Dirk, Bosh...
and he can barely defend players like Zach Randolph, Duncan, Marc Gasol.
clementhel 1 year ago
dude bosh got owned by bynum this year, and dirk is to soft, stfu laker.bynum hater
lakershd 1 year ago
@lakershd hahahaha omgg wtff Why so mad??? I'm just saying that the fact that you said that Bynum CAN defend ANY bigman is wrong.. cuz he struggled against alot of big men...
clementhel 1 year ago
what r u talking about he hasnt struggled against anybody quit talking out of ur ass before i fucken kill you
lakershd 1 year ago
@lakershd omg your'e so close minded...
You're obviously just another very biased laker fan..
ohh and dibs on what you said..You're gonna kill me! omgg so scary...
clementhel 1 year ago
U BETTER BITCH !!!!
lakershd 1 year ago
@lakershd I betterrr what??? well i know i'm better than you but what do u mean?
clementhel 1 year ago
charles was right
thegr8one80 2 years ago
Shaq at his prime indeed can dominate Gasol+Bynum.
And Rick Fox, the traditional player, tough player.
Ron Harper, he won champs at Bulls, and a great wing players when he was younger.
Horry+Fisher, you got two best killers in clutch time.
Only Kobe was weaker than today's Kobe, but still Kobe.
Yes, former Lakers can dominate today's Lakers.
I saw some Kobe fans unhappy about Barkley's statement, now they will unhappy about my comment which is opposite to Barkley's.
jimmychuang 2 years ago 2
We just have to wait, then count which Laker team had the most rings. I'm betting this one !
DevinMurphy21 2 years ago
@jimmychuang True, Kobe rod of Shaq's & Horry's back in clutch in 1st 3 rings. Harper was another veteran who played very good perimeter Defense. great points.
mnkhan2020 1 year ago
not to mention glen rice lol pretty good third option.
Jrotten11 1 year ago
Webber a nice guy, if anyone was in Kings that year, big chance he would deny Lakers' champ that yr.
jimmychuang 2 years ago
*steeper
willsmackyoudown 2 years ago
Now the Lakers are the most dominate team in the league, they got Ron Artest which was a big upgrade and they got a healthy Bynum and he is a MONSTER, putting up 20 points and 10 boards a game, and of course we got Kobe the best player in the world, the Lakers have a incredible bench, now all we are waiting for is Pau Gasol to come back from injury which will be soon, and the Lakers are going to be ready for another championship
hermom2 2 years ago
only problem is you guys are going to meet the celtics in the finals. We all know how thats going to go
willsmackyoudown 2 years ago
yep you're right man, we do! Kevin's old knee will give out again, Rasheed will get tossed out, Ray Allen will only be able to play 20 minutes a game and will be sent home to watch matlock and drink his prune juice and Kobe, Gasol, FULLY HEALTHY young 7 footer named Bynum (who didnt even in play in that series and is averaging 20 and 10 this year) will CRUSH boston..yep we all know how it will go!! lol (Assuming Boston even makes it to finals, way they're playing this season...doubtful)
bigbossman999 2 years ago
lol i love LA delusion. You guy's are playing in a weak conference and you have yet to go on a long road trip. In fact with stepper competetion the celtics have only one more loss than LA and we dont rely on miracle last minute shots to save us from Miami.
willsmackyoudown 2 years ago
weaker conference? LMFAO since when? East has like three good teams, in west theres like 6 that could win whole championship. In fact that season they won east was at its weakest in years, you could be 10 games under .500 and make playoffs (u still can in east this year). In west there were teams ten games above and couldnt make playoffs. Talk about delusional, face it celts are OLD, injury prone, washed up, talent depleted..aka DONEZO.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
Celtics- 16-4 washed up? Yeah I dont think so man. They are going to wrap up Kobe in the finals just like they did in 08. Like you said before there are 3 teams in the East Cavs, Orlando, Boston. There is no tother team in the west that is feasibly going to make it to the finals. Trust me Boston will wind up with the best record in the league. Conference champs and NBA champs
willsmackyoudown 2 years ago
LOL dude nuggets, suns, trailblazers and even spurs, any of those teams can make it to finals and WIN, especially nuggets. But there's no point arguing lets just wait til the season ends, may the best team win lol.
bigbossman999 2 years ago
@willsmackyoudown quit living in the past what are they doin now
nealboy31 1 year ago
but charles is right potentialy this team is better you got kobe add gasol to that a fit bynum fisher with farmer to come on also artest know argubaly odom is the best 6th man in the league yea adam morrison and brown there trades where a barging and you got shasha and walton to that and dg mbenga its the best team in the league
majidmajid41 2 years ago
Robbert Horry is rolling over in his grave..! Haha lovely
woutakasinistra 2 years ago
the 2000-2001 lakers to me were the best team of 21st century no doubt
roncarl9 2 years ago
The old Lakers team was a lot more dominant both offensible and defensible than today's Lakers. Charles realized that he was wrong and at the end he added "Potentially". Lol
Today's Lakers will have to stay healthy and improve in both offense(role players) and defense (everyone's job) only time will tell.
JoseitoCaracas 2 years ago
i agree the only reason why lakers was winning is because of shaq and to a certain extent kobe
ConstructionMadness 2 years ago
And to a certain extent they won the championsihp this year and made it to the finals last year and are now the odds on fave to win it again next year....face it kobe is one of the greatest of all time, and no matter how much people hate, that wont change
bigbossman999 2 years ago
Of course he's 1 of the greatest players ever.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
You are so wrong. That team with KM, Rick Fox, a younger Derek Fisher, and Kobe was a dynasty. It wasn't only because of Shaq or Kobe.
KOFSoldier 2 years ago
With K.G.,Pierce,Ray Allen.Rasheed Wallace I wonder how many assists Rondo will have this year?
13war25 2 years ago
2001 shaq and kobe lost one (to iverson) in the whole playoffs
number3answer 2 years ago
Its looking like Charles was right!!! :-D
dagemh 2 years ago
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Barkley your an asshole and a fool the Celtics won the championship after you stuck your foot in your mouth as you have over and over again. How does all that leather taste FOOL?
13war25 2 years ago
Who gives a fuck? L.A. is back on top!!!
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
"i think potentially...." lmao
jibbers0 2 years ago
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KOBE IS WORSE than d wade and lebron
mjerina77 2 years ago
slap ya self for that dummy lmao
vickscousin27 2 years ago
mjerina77: you are a dick plain and simple.
Gideon6640 2 years ago
wow i think u mustve been on the reefer.
Facebook289 2 years ago
For Sierra 688. You are ridiculous to call Odom a role player. Just because him and Scola had similiar stats for one season do not make them comparable. They do totally different things for their teams. I am not even going to go into this b/c there is no point. Lets just stop making retarded comments. Thanks.
thatsmrlong2u 2 years ago
Chuck is wrong on this one. This is actually a very unimpressive Laker team compared to other great teams. Odom is not a great player. His production is about the same as that of Luis Scola, which puts him as a solid role player. Gasol is a legit star player, but last year's Finals exposed his weakness as an interior defender and rebounder. Bynum is a good big, but also no more than a role player.
Sierra688 2 years ago
odom averaged 17 and 11 when he started last year....scola can put up those numbers?
coolman1831 2 years ago
d4mn KG is black
he still my dude tho
whoaitsAD 2 years ago
webber is just mad cause the old school lakers were the ones who beat his team back in the day
123balling321 2 years ago
barkley is a dumb ass!!shaq was the best i his prime!!he talks out of his ass sometimes!!
teckmunny 2 years ago
unwise statement
emmanuelb 2 years ago
okay im not gonna have any opinions just gonna compare 01 Lakers and 09 Lakeres right now assuming Bynum will be healthy..
01 Lakers vs 09 Lakers
Fisher vs Fisher=Off-set
Kobe vs Kobe=09 wins cuz Kobe 09 is a complete player that 01 Kobe wasnt..
Fox vs Walton=01 wins but barely cuz Walton is a ball handler but Fox is a better shooter than Walton
Horry vs Gasol=09 wins are u kidding me??
Shaq vs Bynum=01 Shaq is undefendable..
Bench= off set..
potentially these 09 Lakers can be great
ronaldok20 2 years ago
i take ariza over fox and odom/gasol over horry... too bad bynum is injury prone
musicnhoops818 2 years ago
Injury prone ? Both of his we're freak accidents.
lakershd 2 years ago
well ur never gonna know if he is or not.. 2 injuries on knees at such a young age.. ur never gonna know. but i tell u wat,, he has a great potential.. hes long, shot blokcer and a great finisher..
ronaldok20 2 years ago
so he is freak accident prone i guess as oppose to injury prone. Bynum is long, a good shot blocker, but i dont think he has a long enough body of work to be called a great finisher..
musicnhoops818 2 years ago
What about the 1999-2000 Lakers that went 67-15? These guys killed other teams, with a win margin of +9.0, even with a 21-year-old Kobe missing 16 regular season games. 27-year-old Shaq and a 32-year-old but still capable Glen Rice. Not to mention a supporting cast of Ron Harper, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry, AC Grean, and Brian Shaw. In my opinion, this was the best team Kobe's been apart of.
nyk20 2 years ago 9
i said potentially and Charles changes potentially too.. that team killed those teams because the opponents are much easier compared to teams in the NBA right now. supporting cast off set cuz this team has great talent.. Kobes much better now so i think this team CAN be a better team than that in the future.
ronaldok20 2 years ago
sure this lakers team can be great, but don't take away from that 2000 team saying that the opponents were easier.
stacked blazers team: rasheed, steve smith, pippen, stoudamire, sabonis
veteran utah jazz team: malone, stockton, hornacek, and bryon russell
defending champs spurs: 23-year-old duncan, david robinson and avery johnson
7th seeded kings: webber, peja, vlade, and j-will.
defense still meant something, not like today's league where you get called for a foul just breathing on someone
nyk20 2 years ago 9
omg nyk fucken rite!
YoGurlzMosFavMc 2 years ago
kings also had hedo, mike bibby, & doug.
and their coach was rick adelman, who forced the lakers to play 7 game againts the rockets
agen703 2 years ago
@nyk20 the fouls that get called are crazy..if u touch a player its a foul
msaherds 1 year ago
Pippen was old, couldn't help Blazer's offense, they were great team, but lack of good scorers.
Spurs was great, but it's Shaq faced Duncan and Old Robinson. Not Kobe,
Jazz was too old, if 3 yrs ago, they could beat LA, and they did beat OK's LA 4:0 in 1998.
Kings? thats official wanted they out of series. Too many calls are crap, the league made Lakers win that series.
jimmychuang 1 year ago
@nyk20 hahaha. "u get called for a foul just breathing on someone" lol :D
kingmamba248 1 year ago
i got a new nickname for sir charles its called buttamuffin barkley!
brewerbean 2 years ago
chuck lost his damn mind
lazystevie 2 years ago
They can say whatever they want but only time will tell.
geocgeo 2 years ago
You thought he was crazy-look at the lakers now.. i think chuck was right!
theluckyroach 2 years ago
Webber should be the regular now for that 4th seat. They need to dump Magic, he stinks on air.
whb786 2 years ago
can i just walk off the set plz? LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
webber making this show funnier than it already was, what a great addition
demuisz 2 years ago
i hope they just suspended chuck and not fired him, and they should add webber on permanetly he rolls with the jokes and adds sum himself... i agree wit lakersfan that this is the best show on TV I stay up till 1AM wit 730 classes to watch this. Is there any video of the show wit gary payton when they announced the allstar lineups?
damnicantwin 3 years ago
chuck was smoking crack...
bennyman5 3 years ago
Robert Horry rollin in his grave haaaaaa
damiansobczak5 3 years ago
webber was like...."do you remember playing against SHAQ?"
LmOnAy 3 years ago
Barkleys just winding webber up cos he got smoked time after time by Shaq and Kobe
permdarlington 3 years ago
this years lakers team is has da best talent ever
lakershd 3 years ago
webber's just saying that cause he got owned. Although TBH it was rigged.
yowassupimben 3 years ago
well hey... the Lakers have the best start this season than any other in the past 20 years
so...
DonCorleone87 3 years ago
chuck is always either really right or really wrong. hes kinda stupid
JDev82 3 years ago
I love C Webb's style. I thought he looked like a natural analyst the first night they had him.
drc1981 3 years ago 3
this year's (2008-2009) will be the start of another dynasty that can rival the 2000-2002 lakers. they just have more weapons now with Kobe playing more mature then the start of the Kobe of 00-02.
ilovetfc 3 years ago
i honestly think this year's lakers could beat the shaq/kobe lakers in a series.
sevren777 3 years ago
Dude, those Lakers were just too deep. I mean, they had two of the best five players in the game at the time in Kobe and Shaq (with shaq being the best), GREAT role players in Robert Horry, Derek Fisher, and Brian shaw, and a great supporting cast in Ron Harper, AC Greene, and Glenn Rice. I think that Laker team is better than the Celtics.
neosmndrew 3 years ago 3
Do u think the lakers 2000-02 could beat the champion celtics 08? ...dont get me wrong im a laker fan thru n thru ...just sayin the lakers and celtivs have insane line ups that the rest of the league look so far behind but they have great rosters as well disregarding the bottom feeders
flipdayv 3 years ago
Yes, I do. Lakers had 3 MVP caliber players in Bryant, O'Neal, and Rice playing in their primes, plus allstar caliber players on the bench and other positions. The Celtics have no real MVP calibers (none of the Big Three are better than All-Star starter) and 4 all stars in the big three and rondo.
neosmndrew 3 years ago
they would murder em with shaq
lakershd 3 years ago
The Lakers in '00 might have been able to beat them because they had Shaq, Kobe, Rice and were the #1 defensive team.
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
Those Lakers had Shaq and a selfish Kobe with a supporting cast. This team has a mature Kobe (who's playing the best ball of his career)Pau, Bynm, Odom and a great supporting cast.
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
LakersDynasty42-How can you say Kobe was ever selfish? All the Laker fans will hate you forever. LMAO
13war25 2 years ago
Hahahaha!!!! You don't know how many times I've gotten into debates with Laker fans over the past 2 months when it comes to Kobe. I've lost count of the amount of times I've been told I'm "not a real Laker fan" because I don't say Kobe's the best player or that he's better than MJ.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
The Celtics and their fans could care less about having the best player. All the Cetics and their fans want is the Championship at the end of the year. The Celtics have 17 of them. Rasheed Wallace has been added and all he wants is another championship ring. He could care less about Kobe as long as the Celtics win #18. Saying Kobe is not the best player ever is a mortal sin with Laker fans. You will be debating your ass off if you say that. Good luck.
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LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
Why do you get into so many debates if it's childish? I know who was the best in the clutch and it was BILL RUSSELL. His last 2+years at USF they won 55 straight games and 2 NCAA Championships. He was the center of the Olympic baketball team in 1956 that won the Gold. He was the center for the Celtics when they won11N.B.A. titles in 13 years. John Wooden who coached him(and Kareem) called BILL RUSSELL the best defensive player he ever saw. END OF DEBATE.
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LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
i agree on that winnin 11 championships out of 13 is dominatin...bill russel is one of the greatest and he wasnt a scorer either his focus was defense and making people around him better, and he was good rebounder
Guerrillachop 2 years ago
@Guerrillachop woz dere really any competition for bill russel apart from wilt back den honestly ?
FREEDOM23100 2 years ago
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And to a certain extent they won the championsihp this year and made it to the finals last year and are now the odds on fave to win it again next year....face it kobe is one of the greatest of all time, and no matter how much people hate, that wont change
bigbossman999 2 years ago
The level that Kobe has to compete with is higher than what MJ had to, tho. I'm not saying Mike couldn't, I'm just saying he didn't.
KOFSoldier 2 years ago 2
MJ played in the 80's, 90's and early '00's. He faced plenty of tough competition and always delivered.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago
are you stupid?, MJ played is one of the most physical eras of basketball, the hall of famers he went up against was deep. He had to go up against one of the best defensive teams in nba history those late 80's pistons. the pounding he took night in and night out was insane. there are so many ghost fouls in the nba, that the league is becoming a joke. don't get me wrong kobe is a great player, but you cannot say his level of comp is higher than MJ's.
kidwalt 2 years ago
The general competition of right now is better than it was 10-20 years ago. I'm not just talking about HOF's, there are other players who play very well and don't get the credit. Also, what do you call the Celtics of today? Their defense is almost unstoppable when the team is all healthy.
KOFSoldier 2 years ago 5
The Celtics needed three perennial all-stars to compete for the title. if you wanna talk about a great defensive team talk about the 04,05, pistons. as far as i am concern Paul Pierce is the celtic's best player and the reason they won the title and please don't say kg he is not even clutch!, Manu Ginobili is a overlooked player at times, he has won 3 titles, olympic gold medal,etc, future hall of famer in my book.
kidwalt 2 years ago
@KOFSoldier another joke. Where R today's hakeems, barkleys, Ewings, mournings, malones, stocktons, robinsons etc etc. Last 10 yrs are the poorest of NBA talent wise, skill wise. Why? straight from highschool plyrs. not taught NCAA bball fundamentals. disguisting european influx only know to shoot & play offense & ZERO defense. NBA of '80s & '90s was the single best era ever with 3 GOAT players. Jordan, Magic, Bird
mnkhan2020 1 year ago
@mnkhan2020 You mean like Dwight, eventually Greg Oden, Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and the likes?
You can't compare their careers right now because the legends have accomplished more because more of them played 15+ years, while these guys have all logged in under 10. Give it time.
KOFSoldier 1 year ago
The Celtics today is not a heathy team for years. You can only say Celtics in 2008 is same good defense team as Pistons in early 2000s.
The legend is up and down for years, not always good or bad, it's not suitable to use evolution theory on the NBA and claim the legend will be greater yr by yr.
The fact is the legend is not improved as much as international, it shows regress. I mean we got lots stars today but the average is weaker than 10, 20 yrs ago.
jimmychuang 1 year ago
@jimmychuang NAh not really.
The teams this year have gotten smarter with more of a focus on strategy as opposed to instincts. The superstars might've been better, but the average NBA player is better than the average player 10-20 years ago.
KOFSoldier 1 year ago
@KOFSoldier Not really. If average players are far better than 20 yrs ago, how come we today's NBA teams depend on one or two offense players that much?
Just look around, US basketball is not unbeatable anymore. I don't think its a sign of improved.
I guess they only spend more time in GYM.
jimmychuang 1 year ago
dude not even close, the best players were in that era. dont have a good center today period. back then plenty. artest, battier are the best at guarding kobe? none of which will be hof'ers. kobe's got it easy. too easy. him and bron. beck then centers toyed with shaq! well, at least olajuwon did.
pickzkickz 2 years ago
Don't take this the wrong way, but how would you know? You were 10 when Jordan last played for the Bulls, so how can you just pull something out of thin air? You were even a kid the 1st 6 season's of Kobe's. The rules changes have killed this era, made the game less physical and easier to score. And the 90s were also part of Kobe's era.
j23mvp 2 years ago
2000s era is soft and no competitions. Lakers won 2 rings, against weakest teams since 1998. The only 2 years that competive are Lakers vs.Celtics, Pistons vs. Spurs. Not so many finals worth to watch in 2000s.
And according to stat, accomplishments, Jordan is far better than Kobe, no doubt.
Outside the court, Jordan was the most popular and well known sportsman in the world.
Kobe benefited from him, but he never impact league that much.
but yap Kobe have more gay fans
jimmychuang 2 years ago
@KOFSoldier Ha ha ha. a serious joke. MJ played in '90s, the single most competitive era ever in NBA history. 2000 kobe decade is like 1970s era. no big men. no real postup game big men like hakeem, shaq, david, malone etc etc..... too many to count. Kobe had it too easy. extremely relaxed zone defense, 3-sec rule. Kobe still struggles to shoot 50%FG. MJ today will ave no less than 40ppg.
mnkhan2020 1 year ago
@mnkhan2020 He just beat Dwight Howard and the Magic in the NBA Finals.
There are a shortage of great big men, but there are some good ones. Also, Teams are more than just big men (even though they are very important).
KOFSoldier 1 year ago
@KOFSoldier Dwight aint half a playr barkley was. He lacks charles quickness, agility & IQ. Dwight is just a much better dunker & stronger player than Barkley. Skill wise is where Dwight is not even close to sir charles who won MVP once & got robbed once. should've had 2 MVPs by now. nonetheless, skill wise there can never be another Hakeem, Ewing, Robinson, Charles, Malone, Stockton, Payton etc etc etc. the list is endless,
mnkhan2020 1 year ago
best show eveeeeeeeeeeeeer
coolguy71469 3 years ago
HAHAH CHRIS WEBBER!
pose716 3 years ago
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Barkley is an NBA top 50 player,I agree,he was tough,had tenacity,and just plain mean,he played hard,no doubt,but this guy is not a tv personality,hes boring to watch,just like affirmative action in the army,the station has to hire so many blacks,so many whites,and so many other race,plus it dont hurt to be an ex nba player,but no thrill,kenny to,we all how much you won,you say it every show kenny,.
NAMTRIP 3 years ago
I love their jabs at charles at the end of that segment. "this is probably the BEST celtics team ever" "the BEST pistons team ever, forget dumars"
pandacomics 3 years ago 2
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lakers ain't winning nothing- its over!
lydelli2004 3 years ago
lol. let's see what happens next june, then the june after that, then the june after that. i bet you the lake show will win at least 2 titles the next 5 years.
sevren777 3 years ago
barkley and shaq are goods u idiot
childofgod2543 3 years ago 4
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FUCK YOU ALL LAKERS FANS!
You disgrace the Lakers!
No one hates the lakers but YOU make us hate them!
You disgrace your own fucking team!
Suck it you mother fucking assholes!
FUCK YOU!
usernamePassword 3 years ago
the potential (key word) of the current lakers team is undoubtedly there. whats hard to swallow about chuck's comments are how he so casually seems to neglect just how much of a SHEER FORCE shaq was in his prime with the lakers. just for emphasis i write again, SHEER FORCE
lakersfan722 3 years ago
i really don't think barkley likes shaq. i remember them actually getting into a fight.
JesterJoker89 3 years ago
oh ya i know exactly what you're talking about. barkley throws the ball at shaq's head and so shaq takes a huge swing at barkley but barely missed. i dont even wanna think about how much pain shaq could have inflicted with those humongous arms had he actually landed that blow
lakersfan722 3 years ago
yah, "Go get'em chuck" when barkley had shaq in a headlock pounding his head... lol!
lydelli2004 3 years ago
I fully agree with your assessment of Shaq with the Lakers and how Barkley seems to forget how much of a monster Shaq was. Shaq has been called the most dominant NBA player EVER, and 95% of that reputation comes from his years with the Lakers, destroying everyone in sight.
lidgerwood 3 years ago 2
I actually can see where Chuck is going with this one, I think this present team might be better than the past team because of Kobe then and Kobe now and how he's developed his passing game.
meowdog 3 years ago
watchout 2000 to 2002 lakers better shaq kobe ron harper glen rice horry fisher mitch richmond horance grant come on man i can keep goin not includin the first nigga 2 go thru his legs rider and he aint play that much that shows how deep they was
bigboss2186 3 years ago
i think chuck may have a point that this team will be better than the kobe-shaq team, cause most of there players are still young and developing, so i think if u give them some time they have the potential to become something great.
ngogwet 3 years ago
haha love sir charles but he's off on this one
whales 3 years ago
2003-2004, of course, with Malone and Payton. But they talk about 2000-2002, Lakers now are a young team, we will see in the future. Shaq is the best dominant center ever, but a frontcourt Odom,Gasol,Bynum....with Kobe MVP for first time. The Only Problem is Fish, the guy is a old man.
zikutamix 3 years ago
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The Lakers are no better than Phoenix, New Orleans or San Antonio with a healthy Ginobli.
Everyone is really banking on Bynum who is an unknown commodity.
catndryer 3 years ago
And obviously Kobe at his best right now.
zikutamix 3 years ago
Gasol isnt center like shaq, he is power forward and way better than Samaki Walker, and Bynum is still young...And If Bynum in the future is better than Shaq?? We Dont Know that, so potencially they can be better than the old Lakers. Shooters like Vujacic or VladRad, reserve point guard like Jordan Farmar, a FrontCourt with Odom,Gasol and Bynum....
zikutamix 3 years ago
Your as stupid as Charles. Bynum will NEVER b better than Shaq, i am 100% sure, if it ever happens i will eat my own hand. You saying you would wanna take shooters like Farmar and others over Rick Fox, Devean George and Robert Horry? And you want Derek Fisher now over Derek Fisher back then? I reckon the 2003-2004 Lakers were probably the best team even though they lost haha
MrLoot 3 years ago
It's funny you mentioned Devean George because he was and is horrible
meowdog 3 years ago
no he was good now is horrible
MrLoot 3 years ago
he was damn good, his defense was better than anyone on the Lakers right now, that includes kobe who fouls way too much
liu11 3 years ago
fox, george, horry, fisher were so much TOUGHER than the lakers role players now. gasol might be more talented but 01-02 horry and walker could have guarded him better than kendrick perkins and leon powe (and those two held him in check lol)
roncarl9 3 years ago 4
if bynum was healthy then for sure
TAKEMONEY9 3 years ago
he is wrong, but barkley is hilarious!!
PeytonManning00 3 years ago 2