according to wikipedia the 'nowgorod' (this ship) has a size of about 30 metres while the object on the picture estimated to be about 65 metres, so i dont think that matches..
Everybody in the world needs thier lying Governments to come clean UFOs or in reality Identified flying objects and also how many Alien races they are in contact with and which Planet systems they come from..
These round ships were 110 feet across and only used in the Black Sea. Object on the bottome of the Baltic Sea is 180 feet across. The mystery is still there........
The debunkers will hold on to the myth that it is 60 feet in diameter, instead of 60 meters, which will give credence to the Russian gun ship theory. More credence would go to the Millennium Falcon theorists, but that ship is only 30 meters in diameter - half as big as the Baltic Sea object.
@RonFella Too many straight lines and exact angles for it to be natural i would say. I think it would probably be a Russian ship, but i wouldn't bet my life savings on it as the universe is a pretty big place.
....and until may comes around, i feel they should keep makeing passes with the sonar. because we all know we would have recovered our spy drone from iran before they could if we had the chance to. ;)
i think people have forgotten it is the size of a 747! this thing would just be a blip on the sonar. and not to mention this thing could not have slammed into the ocean AND make it to the sea floor with that much energy still left. this has to be a meteor, or even better...some form of VERY intelligent extraterrestrial life forms. i dont like speculating out loud. but come may i will definitely be looking this up because this one object can very well change the destination of man kind:)
the russian boat is a complete circle or oval shape the thing they found is 3/4 circle then in the front it has a perfect rectangle cut out you can tell it has not been broken off
The specs for the Novgorod put at at 101ft diameter (30.7mtrs) the object mesured by s-scan-sonar is in the region of 195ft (60 mtrs). A disintigrating ship wreck may 'spread' but given the low construction of the vessel is probably wouldn't double its footprint. Also the Baltic is famous for preserving wrecks and having almos no tide so current-drift is not a good explanation for 'the trail' unless it has been down there for a long long time
The only similarity I see is they are round. It by definition would be a USO ( unidentified sunken object) which appears to have hit the sea floor at a high rate of speed and left a debris trail. A craft of alien origin would certainly be of interest and would support a number of documented accounts of UFO's hitting the water. We can only hope they can work up the capital.
The drag marks on the bottom have nothing to do with the speed capability of the ship on the surface. A sinking ship accelerates as it fills with water and can hit bottom at very high velocities. Depending on angle of the bottom where the ship hits and the impact speed they can skid a long way before coming to rest. As far as the shape goes the only thing I'm familiar with that is circular and even close to that dimension are these Russian Ironclads. I don't recall how far from home they roamed.
For those who actually watched the video and noted the number and size of the propellers (6)
Or the positioning of the stanchions on the deck (21) at approximately 6 - 8 feet apart, well 21 x 6 = 126 and 21 x 8 = 168 So that iron clad was between 126 and 128 feet wide.
How does that measure up to a jet liner?
Now for the drag marks on the sea floor, I am guessing that few people really watch those National Geographic under sea shows. Soft silt mud and currents can do the same.
that mage is real. there is SOMETHING there. but it is DEFINETLY NOT A RUSSIAN SHIP(look on cnn)
reasons: 1- those russain ships where not as big as that one is( it is the size of a jumbo jet) 2- russia was no where near the baltic sea during the time of that ship. 3- the carsh mark drag was huge
P.S- realy? i saw the ORIGINAL picture of that. u used photo shop to edit it
@Lightstriker117 As soon as I saw this video I was thinking, "and so the cover up begins". If it's in the air it's a weather balloon, if it's in the water its some massive weird looking ship. Smh
To be 100% honest ok it really could be that ship, but y are people so quick to try and debunk every interesting that hits the news? Some ppl are so boring
@gpgpgp13322 Hi there friend, I'm about to make your day that little bit better. You asked what the music was in this video 3 weeks ago. Well here it is, Ryan Farish - Full Sail have a great day! Keep smiling because horses like to shit out their asses :)
i personally don't think it was not a good idea for them to say anything until they actually found out what it is...being the eyes and ears if u know what im sayin
@chubbz187 obviously u got problems with reading.. specs of Novogrod 30.8m x30.8m.. means.. object from Baltic is 4 times bigger (not twice, do the math), + those ships were scrapped in 1912, not sunk.
@educatedyoungman Hey listen jack ass.. I dont have problems reading ok ? the source I looked at said 60 meters in length.. look it up for yourself before you go running your mouth.
@chubbz187 Man.. me and others here confirmed that whole story of Russian round ships is clear. They were never used in battle. They were used at a cost, and they were scrapped in 1912, not sunk. Facts man.. FACTS
@educatedyoungman Swedish sea treasure hunters have found something extraordinary: A 60-foot disc sunk in the bottom of the ocean, with what appears to be 985-foot-long impact tracks leading to it. where you finding your numbers chief ? you make those up or are you so desperate to prove this object is something "ET" that you are making them up as you go.. the numbers you gave for the ship would match up better than mine..lol
@chubbz187 check this on wiki: Russian_monitor_Novgorod .. U don't have to bring me the whole story. They didn't found a disc, they ONLY got a radar image that shows "something" in a round shape. There's a 3D image of the radar, where it looks like natural formation if U ask me :) Where do I say about UFO?????? ;)
I'm not 100% sure it's an extraterrestrial spacecraft, but I'm also not 100% sure its that Russian ship. Either one is possible, but the Russian ship theory is the most probable outcome. I'm not dismissing the extraterrestrial spacecraft theory though. Anything is possible on the world we live in today...
it is very first video where reasonable person post it to the web. Common sense allow to say author that an object may be the UFO but also say it may be old russian wrecked ship. In most other cases usually it would be like a "yeah, that obviously is UFO". And in maaaaaaany cases it is highly over reacted statement.... Video itself - really interesting. I think this is rather russian stuff....
A Russian ship would explain the shape for sure, BUT..not the velocity in which this object hit the ocean floor. There is a large trail behind the wreck that of which would be from a very fast moving object.
A sinking ship is "flying". It is flying like any fish would, and could gain some speed. The sediments at the bottom of the Baltic are soft. It's shape probably caused it to "glide" into place and leave that trail in soft sediment. Totally plausible, and first reasonable theory I have seen. Looks like that ship to me.
Whatever it is, It's only 300ft down, Surely it's worth dropping an R.O.V Down for a look see? The Woods Hole Institute should be all over this one !!
You don't have to even look too closely to see that there appears to be at least one other peculiar circular object beside the main one, maybe even three.
Nice job ! I had no idea that there were Russian surface vessels that looked like these, some are completely round! very odd. I'm now interested what they were trying to do here, (hydrodynamicly speaking). These are all renderings and models, so the question is, did they build any of these?...
@jettscreemr ....They only built two of the "Novogorod" type ships and one "Lividia" style yacht.They were not sucessful. The Novogorods were in fact scuttled in the Baltic sea in about 1912. The fate of the Lividia is not known.Interesting ships in a Jules Verne style.
Why is everyone so keen on the "flying saucer" alien starship design? It'd be foolish to think that a sentient race so technologically advanced would adopt the less aerodinamically efficient shape for their atmospheric esploration ship; also, the flying saucer would be extremely unefficient on a logistic standpoint - lot of possible storage space going wasted.
@clydeyello it depends on what the spec's of the ship have too be to meet space travel. Also, if these ships exist they would probably use a gravity control engine and who know what kind of structure you need to meet its requirements.
@ETERNALWORRIOR In space there's no aerodynamic friction. Technically speaking, the most efficient design would be a box. Maximum storage space, and you can stack a lot of ships in the hangars of motherships or in orbital "scaffolds". Also, a gravity control engine would suck in a lot of energy to do something that you can let air do, it would be a major flaw in the design of those ships.
"Requirements" are not a good excuse, we already know what it takes to make an efficient starship.
@clydeyello How do we know? We havent build any starships so far. And the tiny stuff that we have isn't efficient at all. It might be working for the transport of machinery, but who is going to wait a few decades for a landing on a extrasolar planet and another decade for sending and receiving one message? Thats the current "state of the art". Either we are idiots, or the cosmos is simply too large for travelling through it. This is the question.
@AlMayer1100 We know enough to speculate what shape "FTL" starships could have. Believe it or not, in space traveling at 3,000 kph or at 300,000 kps isn't any different in space. The only reason our ships are highly ineffective is that we're yet to develop the technologies needed for orbital manufacture and spaceship launching. We KNOW what are the requirements, we just don't know how to meet them. Still, we know how to fail hard at doing so.
@AlMayer1100 Also, I was just talking against the "flying saucer" design. Which is logistically ineffective. Why do you think containers are parallelepipedons? Because that way they can contain more goods. A starship, expecially one designed to scan planets populated by galactic savages with primitive EW and ES technology like ours, would most likely be a container with engines on one end (Or both) and maximized internal storage space.
As for the "drag marks" who said they were drag marks? That would be Peter Linberg and his Ocean Explorer team that made that up. It's a rock, it's elevated, the current goes around it creating that effect. The best evidence that it's nothing more than a rock is that it was found 2 months ago and nobody wants to waste a dime on sending a remote sub down there. Linberg will eventually go back I'm sure, once the donations from the gullible flood his bank account. Quite a fantasy world we live in.
Very interesting theory but none of the ships mentioned in this vid actually sank. The Novgorod and the Rear Admiral Popov (both circular) were scrapped in 1912. The first Livadia did sink but it wasn't circular and it sank in the Black Sea, 2,200km from the Baltic Sea. The Imperial Russian Ship Livadia was circular but it never sank, just scrapped in 1926. So it's none of those. The "ufo" was found June 19, 2 months ago!! The Ocean Explorer team is getting donations, it's a publicity stunt.
To me this looks like a ripped off giant ground/bottom trawling net which would explain the "breaking / track" marks in the ground. The fish probably piled up and built the shape as it fell down and sediment covered the whole thing up. Would not surprise me after all the baltic see has some delicious ground fish.
yup, i just went and watched an interview with the guy who found it. he's a scam. out looking for an old shipwreck, finds this thing, has no money to explore it further, but was out looking for a shipwreck to begin with? why would they be out looking for anything in the first place unless they were prepared to deal with what they found (be able to retrieve it)?
@SpisadKoTunga Do you read english? I didn't say "I" interviewed him, I said I "watched" an interview!
I "know" he was out looking for the Swedish shipwreck, and I said so! I also said, they had the money to search for the shipwreck, but "ASKED" why they do not have the money for this odd object! In his interview he ASKED for money to explore this ufo/uso
And if he's your boss, then I'm Will Smith! lol
Me the scam? You can't read and you're off on a nut! Ya fake!
@SpisadKoTunga Furthermore ya fake, if this item turned out to be a Russian ship from 1847, you can bet it would be historically worth as much as finding the bubbly they were looking for.
tattoome, I'm interested in the source of your picture of the Novogorod. It shows date of 1847, but the Novogord wasn't built until aftr 1865 (she was a "popoffsky" and postdated the Urgan class monitors which just followed the US Monitor (mid-1860s). Whatever that is on the bottom. It's NOT the Novogorod, because she was broken up by the Imperial Navy in 1912. It more likely COULD be an Urgan class monitor, but they're all accounted for too, I believe.
@420PATROCK that's what I was thinking. besides, if they had the money to dive when they were looking for the shipwreck that supposedly had old champagne on it, how is it they haven't got the money now to go inspect this object? course, they want donations now, lol
Noooooo, keep that logic away! The alien space delusion must not die!!! Gaarrrh,.....logic and.....reason......ruining my ridi...culous........theory....! Leave us ufo whacko nutjobs aloooooone!
who says that is a russian ship? damn.. first out of the water!!!!! then look with our eyes!! en then conclusion !!! if i put some pictures of my round ass combined with that underwater pictures.. then do you guys believe it to?? there is no signs of details as
poles or rails or guns or anything that a has to do with ships.. only something whats round and seems to be flat.. how the hell can you say its a ship WTF wake up ..maybe its my old frisbee that i lost 30 years ago.. thats round to!
Millenium Falcon of Star Wars :)
Haffschlappe 1 day ago
according to wikipedia the 'nowgorod' (this ship) has a size of about 30 metres while the object on the picture estimated to be about 65 metres, so i dont think that matches..
cannabilist 3 days ago
Everybody in the world needs thier lying Governments to come clean UFOs or in reality Identified flying objects and also how many Alien races they are in contact with and which Planet systems they come from..
TheMerlinianWhite 5 days ago
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TheMerlinianWhite 5 days ago
Well The way I see it is
if it's human made we will find out
if it's alien we will never hear about it again
haha
MissLucyBoomer 6 days ago 3
next i'm going to click on "if you don't believe in UFOs? Watch This! -" on the list on the right..... ok.
MindCrazedBanjo 1 week ago
is it too late to throw the giant clam theory in the ring?
MindCrazedBanjo 1 week ago
These round ships were 110 feet across and only used in the Black Sea. Object on the bottome of the Baltic Sea is 180 feet across. The mystery is still there........
sonofmabarker 1 week ago
this thing pisses me of. its not even under 90m below the surface, send a gad damn diver. geez.
money money money, zzzz
SlipparySurface 1 week ago
that dont explain the 600 feet of drag marks.........a sinking ship couldnt produce that.
megarepsol 1 week ago
Just the most vital facts:
They were 3 elliptical-shaped vessel bulit:
1)"Novgorod" - launched 21/5 1873, - a coastal defence ironclad battleship;
2)"Kiev" (later renamed to "Vice-admiral Popov" - launched 25/9 1875,a coastal defence ironclad battleship;
3)"Lyvadia" - July 1880 - Imperial Yacht.
All of them served on the Black Sea. And all of them ended their service around the year 1913 on the Black Sea as well.
Thus, the underwater object in the Baltic Sea can't be a Russian ship. Period.
hogopog 1 week ago
P.S.
The former two were ca. 30 m. in diameter and the latter - 79x46 meters.
Go figure.
hogopog 1 week ago
@hogopog also there are 600 feet of drag marks on the floor...as if it crashed not sunk.
megarepsol 1 week ago 2
I want it to be alien.....but odds are...man made, ie Russian warship, is my guess. Good presentation thumbs up
Rapierfighter 1 week ago
The debunkers will hold on to the myth that it is 60 feet in diameter, instead of 60 meters, which will give credence to the Russian gun ship theory. More credence would go to the Millennium Falcon theorists, but that ship is only 30 meters in diameter - half as big as the Baltic Sea object.
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azymail 2 weeks ago
My bet is it is just an old crater.
RonFella 2 weeks ago
@RonFella Too many straight lines and exact angles for it to be natural i would say. I think it would probably be a Russian ship, but i wouldn't bet my life savings on it as the universe is a pretty big place.
stoner19860502 2 weeks ago
....and until may comes around, i feel they should keep makeing passes with the sonar. because we all know we would have recovered our spy drone from iran before they could if we had the chance to. ;)
maryjane4201000 2 weeks ago
i think people have forgotten it is the size of a 747! this thing would just be a blip on the sonar. and not to mention this thing could not have slammed into the ocean AND make it to the sea floor with that much energy still left. this has to be a meteor, or even better...some form of VERY intelligent extraterrestrial life forms. i dont like speculating out loud. but come may i will definitely be looking this up because this one object can very well change the destination of man kind:)
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no doubt: it's a Millennium Falcon
Tueksta 3 weeks ago
hitler`s underwater base xD
spparkie1 3 weeks ago
the russian boat is a complete circle or oval shape the thing they found is 3/4 circle then in the front it has a perfect rectangle cut out you can tell it has not been broken off
seeittobelieveit513 3 weeks ago
The one thing everyone has missed is....... IT IS A USO, Unidentified Submersable Object, but I agree its not the Russian boat.
TheLingrush 3 weeks ago
Excellent catch!...but that doesn't explain the long 'slide path' leading up to it...
IwishIwasnot 3 weeks ago
Could be one of those Nazi UFO projects?
SymonSR20 3 weeks ago
The specs for the Novgorod put at at 101ft diameter (30.7mtrs) the object mesured by s-scan-sonar is in the region of 195ft (60 mtrs). A disintigrating ship wreck may 'spread' but given the low construction of the vessel is probably wouldn't double its footprint. Also the Baltic is famous for preserving wrecks and having almos no tide so current-drift is not a good explanation for 'the trail' unless it has been down there for a long long time
FrankLeeDeRainged 3 weeks ago
not even close
somejackball 3 weeks ago
The only similarity I see is they are round. It by definition would be a USO ( unidentified sunken object) which appears to have hit the sea floor at a high rate of speed and left a debris trail. A craft of alien origin would certainly be of interest and would support a number of documented accounts of UFO's hitting the water. We can only hope they can work up the capital.
marioou812 3 weeks ago
that sub is too small. the ufo is the size of a boeing
lenelmaseasko123 3 weeks ago
Still looks like the Millenium Falcon to me. Someone call George Lucas.
shoogafree1 3 weeks ago
It looks Atlantian in origin..
RealityDefenseLeague 3 weeks ago
The drag marks on the bottom have nothing to do with the speed capability of the ship on the surface. A sinking ship accelerates as it fills with water and can hit bottom at very high velocities. Depending on angle of the bottom where the ship hits and the impact speed they can skid a long way before coming to rest. As far as the shape goes the only thing I'm familiar with that is circular and even close to that dimension are these Russian Ironclads. I don't recall how far from home they roamed.
Bigfoot1955 3 weeks ago
@tattoome5150 whats the song you used?
SolidSnake2231 3 weeks ago
IF IT WERE A RUSSIAN SHIP THEY WOULD DIG IT UP! THATS HOW THEY MAKE THEIR MONEY. funding wouldnt be hard. get an auction goin, derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
jaymcd84 3 weeks ago
Wow! Wonderful!
For those who actually watched the video and noted the number and size of the propellers (6)
Or the positioning of the stanchions on the deck (21) at approximately 6 - 8 feet apart, well 21 x 6 = 126 and 21 x 8 = 168 So that iron clad was between 126 and 128 feet wide.
How does that measure up to a jet liner?
Now for the drag marks on the sea floor, I am guessing that few people really watch those National Geographic under sea shows. Soft silt mud and currents can do the same.
sttoad 3 weeks ago
Atlantis... Ha ha lol
Only thing missing is the stargate inside.
gags363 3 weeks ago
that mage is real. there is SOMETHING there. but it is DEFINETLY NOT A RUSSIAN SHIP(look on cnn)
reasons: 1- those russain ships where not as big as that one is( it is the size of a jumbo jet) 2- russia was no where near the baltic sea during the time of that ship. 3- the carsh mark drag was huge
P.S- realy? i saw the ORIGINAL picture of that. u used photo shop to edit it
Lightstriker117 3 weeks ago
@Lightstriker117 As soon as I saw this video I was thinking, "and so the cover up begins". If it's in the air it's a weather balloon, if it's in the water its some massive weird looking ship. Smh
Lokolifeparty 3 weeks ago
Not buying it. That Russian one looks like to slow of a vehicle to leave skid marks , this looks like a crash landing of some sort
jcost2012 3 weeks ago
Apparently they only built 2 that were eventually scrapped. At least that's what the Ruskies said
Dank437 3 weeks ago
did they built those ships the size of a plane? thats how big round thing is. wish they would fine out wot it is an show us.
karnage878 3 weeks ago
To be 100% honest ok it really could be that ship, but y are people so quick to try and debunk every interesting that hits the news? Some ppl are so boring
OnRePeAt11 3 weeks ago
whats the music? :D
gpgpgp13322 3 weeks ago
@gpgpgp13322 Hi there friend, I'm about to make your day that little bit better. You asked what the music was in this video 3 weeks ago. Well here it is, Ryan Farish - Full Sail have a great day! Keep smiling because horses like to shit out their asses :)
YouGotPwndBiatch 1 day ago
@YouGotPwndBiatch Thank you my friend and remember to look out for flying turtles with flamethrowers.
gpgpgp13322 1 day ago
i personally don't think it was not a good idea for them to say anything until they actually found out what it is...being the eyes and ears if u know what im sayin
dastroyahs 3 weeks ago
Han Solo parked his Millenium Falcon :)
limmago 3 weeks ago
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Hope it's a ship full of Atari 2600 E.T. Video Games
dogcatmouse23 3 weeks ago
but that Russian ship isnt a hundred and 180 feet wide
FilthyMcNastyify 3 weeks ago
Nice find, but it's not it. Only 2 circular ironclads were built and they were scrapped in 1912, not sunk. They are also half the size of the object.
CaptEm1 3 weeks ago
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chubbz187 3 weeks ago
i just looked at the specs for this ship. it is 60 M long the same size as the object on the ocean floor. yeah I think we have a winner.
chubbz187 3 weeks ago
@chubbz187 the Russian ship was scrapped in 1912 though...
DF664438 3 weeks ago
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@DF664438 But where is the question.. info I found was sketchy on that subject
chubbz187 3 weeks ago
@chubbz187 obviously u got problems with reading.. specs of Novogrod 30.8m x30.8m.. means.. object from Baltic is 4 times bigger (not twice, do the math), + those ships were scrapped in 1912, not sunk.
educatedyoungman 3 weeks ago
@educatedyoungman Hey listen jack ass.. I dont have problems reading ok ? the source I looked at said 60 meters in length.. look it up for yourself before you go running your mouth.
chubbz187 3 weeks ago
@educatedyoungman wikipedia... look it up. 200 feet in length.. 200 ' = 60.96 m.. Pfftt educated my ass
chubbz187 3 weeks ago
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@chubbz187 Man.. me and others here confirmed that whole story of Russian round ships is clear. They were never used in battle. They were used at a cost, and they were scrapped in 1912, not sunk. Facts man.. FACTS
educatedyoungman 3 weeks ago
@educatedyoungman Swedish sea treasure hunters have found something extraordinary: A 60-foot disc sunk in the bottom of the ocean, with what appears to be 985-foot-long impact tracks leading to it. where you finding your numbers chief ? you make those up or are you so desperate to prove this object is something "ET" that you are making them up as you go.. the numbers you gave for the ship would match up better than mine..lol
chubbz187 3 weeks ago
@chubbz187 check this on wiki: Russian_monitor_Novgorod .. U don't have to bring me the whole story. They didn't found a disc, they ONLY got a radar image that shows "something" in a round shape. There's a 3D image of the radar, where it looks like natural formation if U ask me :) Where do I say about UFO?????? ;)
educatedyoungman 3 weeks ago
@educatedyoungman I agree with you... I dont think they are going to find anything other than that.
chubbz187 3 weeks ago
I'm not 100% sure it's an extraterrestrial spacecraft, but I'm also not 100% sure its that Russian ship. Either one is possible, but the Russian ship theory is the most probable outcome. I'm not dismissing the extraterrestrial spacecraft theory though. Anything is possible on the world we live in today...
skate4tacos96 4 weeks ago
Just one problem with your theory. The object is twice the size of those Russian ships.
Baronstone 4 weeks ago
in the CNN vid the say that russian ships were 30m and this is 60-80m
dumbnetworks 4 weeks ago
Star War's Falcon Millennium. HANDS DOWN.
zeron82411 4 weeks ago 2
The problem with this theory is that the Baltic object is larger than any Russian vessel of this type, well any that we know about at least.
Noman679actual 1 month ago
But with the ships large diameter equel then it could'nt have sunk unless hit with bomb/cannon
DrewIsMade4Tricks 1 month ago
it is very first video where reasonable person post it to the web. Common sense allow to say author that an object may be the UFO but also say it may be old russian wrecked ship. In most other cases usually it would be like a "yeah, that obviously is UFO". And in maaaaaaany cases it is highly over reacted statement.... Video itself - really interesting. I think this is rather russian stuff....
kseia 1 month ago
A Russian ship would explain the shape for sure, BUT..not the velocity in which this object hit the ocean floor. There is a large trail behind the wreck that of which would be from a very fast moving object.
escapeephil 1 month ago
@escapeephil
A sinking ship is "flying". It is flying like any fish would, and could gain some speed. The sediments at the bottom of the Baltic are soft. It's shape probably caused it to "glide" into place and leave that trail in soft sediment. Totally plausible, and first reasonable theory I have seen. Looks like that ship to me.
rankinstudio 1 month ago
Effing lame its not a boat or a stone formation. It has an impact trail, so it seems. If it was a boat that mother had to be flying!
OneMoreThingToDoo 2 months ago
I still hope it's a UFO also, but that's an interesting video.
TriangleCircuitStar 3 months ago
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It's a stone formation.. nothing more nothing less.
Super4ndroid 3 months ago
you don't have to hope - there's still a lot of interesting cases
tapolna 4 months ago
Whatever it is, It's only 300ft down, Surely it's worth dropping an R.O.V Down for a look see? The Woods Hole Institute should be all over this one !!
reddog694uk 4 months ago
You don't have to even look too closely to see that there appears to be at least one other peculiar circular object beside the main one, maybe even three.
zenmeister451 4 months ago
Song is Ryan Farish - Full Sail
Picassai 4 months ago
Very cool looking ships,kinda like a steampunk water based flying saucer.
loufalce 5 months ago
Nice job ! I had no idea that there were Russian surface vessels that looked like these, some are completely round! very odd. I'm now interested what they were trying to do here, (hydrodynamicly speaking). These are all renderings and models, so the question is, did they build any of these?...
jettscreemr 5 months ago
@jettscreemr ....They only built two of the "Novogorod" type ships and one "Lividia" style yacht.They were not sucessful. The Novogorods were in fact scuttled in the Baltic sea in about 1912. The fate of the Lividia is not known.Interesting ships in a Jules Verne style.
loufalce 5 months ago
UFO-nauts are no fools to throw their vessel anywhere like it would peole do
fcentaur 5 months ago
whats the title of the music used in this video?
norwynn 6 months ago
Caligula built these too, but he probably didn't launch any of them that far north. Who knows?
MrNellabmada 6 months ago
Why is everyone so keen on the "flying saucer" alien starship design? It'd be foolish to think that a sentient race so technologically advanced would adopt the less aerodinamically efficient shape for their atmospheric esploration ship; also, the flying saucer would be extremely unefficient on a logistic standpoint - lot of possible storage space going wasted.
clydeyello 6 months ago
@clydeyello it depends on what the spec's of the ship have too be to meet space travel. Also, if these ships exist they would probably use a gravity control engine and who know what kind of structure you need to meet its requirements.
ETERNALWORRIOR 5 months ago
@ETERNALWORRIOR In space there's no aerodynamic friction. Technically speaking, the most efficient design would be a box. Maximum storage space, and you can stack a lot of ships in the hangars of motherships or in orbital "scaffolds". Also, a gravity control engine would suck in a lot of energy to do something that you can let air do, it would be a major flaw in the design of those ships.
"Requirements" are not a good excuse, we already know what it takes to make an efficient starship.
clydeyello 5 months ago
@clydeyello How do we know? We havent build any starships so far. And the tiny stuff that we have isn't efficient at all. It might be working for the transport of machinery, but who is going to wait a few decades for a landing on a extrasolar planet and another decade for sending and receiving one message? Thats the current "state of the art". Either we are idiots, or the cosmos is simply too large for travelling through it. This is the question.
AlMayer1100 5 months ago
@AlMayer1100 We know enough to speculate what shape "FTL" starships could have. Believe it or not, in space traveling at 3,000 kph or at 300,000 kps isn't any different in space. The only reason our ships are highly ineffective is that we're yet to develop the technologies needed for orbital manufacture and spaceship launching. We KNOW what are the requirements, we just don't know how to meet them. Still, we know how to fail hard at doing so.
clydeyello 5 months ago
@AlMayer1100 Also, I was just talking against the "flying saucer" design. Which is logistically ineffective. Why do you think containers are parallelepipedons? Because that way they can contain more goods. A starship, expecially one designed to scan planets populated by galactic savages with primitive EW and ES technology like ours, would most likely be a container with engines on one end (Or both) and maximized internal storage space.
clydeyello 5 months ago
As for the "drag marks" who said they were drag marks? That would be Peter Linberg and his Ocean Explorer team that made that up. It's a rock, it's elevated, the current goes around it creating that effect. The best evidence that it's nothing more than a rock is that it was found 2 months ago and nobody wants to waste a dime on sending a remote sub down there. Linberg will eventually go back I'm sure, once the donations from the gullible flood his bank account. Quite a fantasy world we live in.
ufoguy1962 6 months ago
Very interesting theory but none of the ships mentioned in this vid actually sank. The Novgorod and the Rear Admiral Popov (both circular) were scrapped in 1912. The first Livadia did sink but it wasn't circular and it sank in the Black Sea, 2,200km from the Baltic Sea. The Imperial Russian Ship Livadia was circular but it never sank, just scrapped in 1926. So it's none of those. The "ufo" was found June 19, 2 months ago!! The Ocean Explorer team is getting donations, it's a publicity stunt.
ufoguy1962 6 months ago
but how the landing trail was made ???
iacovvv 6 months ago
Darn, I thought it might be the extraterrestrials who seeded human life on Earth :-) Good video.
karlmahlmann 6 months ago
Get down there and find out wtf it is! Peace
kierondonnelly1 6 months ago
These two ships were listed as scrapped when retired and not scuttled or lost at sea....
RecAdventurism 6 months ago
What's the music? Sounds like Enya.
bobviously 6 months ago
To me this looks like a ripped off giant ground/bottom trawling net which would explain the "breaking / track" marks in the ground. The fish probably piled up and built the shape as it fell down and sediment covered the whole thing up. Would not surprise me after all the baltic see has some delicious ground fish.
idolikethisonek 6 months ago
I am ufologist for 5 years and how that sunk object can be UFO ?
370chanlt 6 months ago
NOTHING alien here!
TANTAULUS 6 months ago
Looks a more likely expanation to me but theres only one sure way to find out, send down a remote sub.
harman1967 6 months ago
That explains its to me, on to the next one.
Workman271 6 months ago
obama lied again /watch?v=dXo5WBcpS9U
tattoome5150 6 months ago
To clear up a couple of things.
The object's radius is 60M not 60 feet.
60M is about 200feet i belive.
The team was short on funding but now they got what they need to go out and check this shit out.
They will head out now in August or early september.
SpisadKoTunga 6 months ago
yup, i just went and watched an interview with the guy who found it. he's a scam. out looking for an old shipwreck, finds this thing, has no money to explore it further, but was out looking for a shipwreck to begin with? why would they be out looking for anything in the first place unless they were prepared to deal with what they found (be able to retrieve it)?
I088880I 6 months ago
@I088880I Lol you havnt interviewed him, i know becuse he is my boss moron.
IF you had TRULY interviewed him then you would have known that they were looking for a old Swedish ship wich they though had sinked at that place.
The ship had a cargo of very very expensive champagne.
Expensive high quality champagne int he year 1800 sure is ALOT more expensive 200 years later.
They would have made a fortune.
You sir are the scam here and you disgust me.
Peace out.
SpisadKoTunga 6 months ago
@SpisadKoTunga Do you read english? I didn't say "I" interviewed him, I said I "watched" an interview!
I "know" he was out looking for the Swedish shipwreck, and I said so! I also said, they had the money to search for the shipwreck, but "ASKED" why they do not have the money for this odd object! In his interview he ASKED for money to explore this ufo/uso
And if he's your boss, then I'm Will Smith! lol
Me the scam? You can't read and you're off on a nut! Ya fake!
I088880I 6 months ago
@SpisadKoTunga Furthermore ya fake, if this item turned out to be a Russian ship from 1847, you can bet it would be historically worth as much as finding the bubbly they were looking for.
I088880I 6 months ago
tattoome, I'm interested in the source of your picture of the Novogorod. It shows date of 1847, but the Novogord wasn't built until aftr 1865 (she was a "popoffsky" and postdated the Urgan class monitors which just followed the US Monitor (mid-1860s). Whatever that is on the bottom. It's NOT the Novogorod, because she was broken up by the Imperial Navy in 1912. It more likely COULD be an Urgan class monitor, but they're all accounted for too, I believe.
IF it's a monitor it must be bottom up
52bobp 6 months ago
okay, now explain the 900 foot impact trail behind the thing
EpikaDenU 6 months ago
@EpikaDenU i was just going to say the same thing.
dongerado 6 months ago
@dongerado apparently allot of people have
EpikaDenU 6 months ago
Have any of those odd ships ever sunk?
Dre4dwolf 6 months ago
Good work. I still hope its a ufo too.
yourlocalatheist 6 months ago
so are we gonna go find out what this shit is or what?
dnartolp830 6 months ago
I believe that is a Ship .....and the 300 m trace mark can be made by sea.
pewploid 6 months ago
at 80 meters deep anyone could dive and take pics, so it is a scam.
420PATROCK 6 months ago
@420PATROCK that's what I was thinking. besides, if they had the money to dive when they were looking for the shipwreck that supposedly had old champagne on it, how is it they haven't got the money now to go inspect this object? course, they want donations now, lol
I088880I 6 months ago
Noooooo, keep that logic away! The alien space delusion must not die!!! Gaarrrh,.....logic and.....reason......ruining my ridi...culous........theory....! Leave us ufo whacko nutjobs aloooooone!
Clausfarre 6 months ago
@Clausfarre
hahahahahaha!!!!
southprk76 6 months ago
nice but doesn't explain the drag marks. the object has to be moving with great speed to be dragging it that distance under water!
dclipe 6 months ago
who says that is a russian ship? damn.. first out of the water!!!!! then look with our eyes!! en then conclusion !!! if i put some pictures of my round ass combined with that underwater pictures.. then do you guys believe it to?? there is no signs of details as
poles or rails or guns or anything that a has to do with ships.. only something whats round and seems to be flat.. how the hell can you say its a ship WTF wake up ..maybe its my old frisbee that i lost 30 years ago.. thats round to!
hypedsparkle 6 months ago
exciting :D
hej2iscool 6 months ago
can i have this song? pm me :) tq!
bytez 6 months ago