Why do you keep showing Bush in the video? How was he connected? Or are you just showing him because everyone hates him? Might as well use Hitler for your propaganda.
@wutru Keep showing? He appears for a few seconds here and there. And I do believe the subservience of the Greek government to the Bush administration was a relevant fact. The video also shows the leaders of other countries.
@JonasKyratzes That's exactly my point. You didn't state how the Greek government is subservient. You tried showing it without commentary using imagery of Bush as "evil". It's the same tactic used over and over again when people have an agenda.
Respond to this video... Don't get me wrong. I like this video, and i found it because i wanted to find out how the riots started in the first place. You just discredit it in some ways with the typical propaganda stuff. Anyway, have a good day.
@icecreamtrepan America isn't the sole source of the problem; it exists on both sides of the Atlantic. You don't want solidarity just from them; ideally you want Greece to be its' own country entirely.
That is why I will not call myself a Communist. Libertarian Communism calls itself that, but then talks about a global federalist mess of its' own. The calls for *global* unity need to stop; they are never anything but a trap. Countries need to rule themselves.
People and the power of people is what governments are afraid off. Greeks are the only ones in the world that do not leave governments(or we at least try) to control our lives. Yes it might be better, but only when it started. "BC". When you have US and Jews combining themselves to FUCK US , WELL THEN OXI BRE MALAKA i will not sit and leave you control my life. read some facts i will not state anything on this post. but when you loose your family member because he is standing up for
@gunsofbrixton1975 what you've just said is stupid. 3 people have died, you don't even know them, what they believed or their character and you are calling them thieves. come on now! the death of everyone is a tragedy, with some exceptions of course. BUT those people were innocent, the crimers in that incident are the ones who threw the bomb. these people deserve to day. they killed 3 people who didn't do them anything. SHAME ON THEM AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM
@jordache2006 The whole mobs? Really? And did you even read up on the details of the event? Not that what happened was OK, or that the violence is justified, but these generalizations are completely inappropriate. (Also, this video is about the riots two years ago.)
@JonasKyratzes the murderers were police provocateurs who went out from a police bus...and were disguised as anarchists and murdered those innocent people...the whole thing was fixed because government had great problem with over one million workers who were striked.
so with this move tried to terrorize people to stay at home!
People and the power of people is what governments are afraid off. Greeks are the only ones in the world that do not leave governments(or we at least try) to control our lives. Yes it might be better, but only when it started. "BC". When you have US and Jews combining themselves to FUCK US , WELL THEN OXI BRE MALAKA i will not sit and leave you control my life. read some facts i will not state anything on this post. but when you loose your family member because he is standing up for
@jordache2006 The attack was directed against a bank. Banks are not innocent here. Therefore, every single bank employee is guilty to some extent. In todays world banks amount to terrorist organizations.
Hello Jonas, thank you for putting this very informative video together. I shared it around with some people I know from Croatia, basically because if comparing our two countries, we might soon enter a very difficult phase just as the one that is going on in Greece right now.
If I may ask just a simple question - what would be the positive outcome of the protests? Status quo or changes? You said both parties are corrupt and I believe you. Could Greece emerge as some sort of worker government?
You, sir, are a racist of the worst kind. By saying something as incredibly racist and absurd as "greek people prefer to do such things, instead of going to work. that is why it is a backward country." you have shown that your opinions cannot be taken even remotely seriously.
Before you accuse others of being inferior for standing up to oppression, perhaps you should take a good look at your own prejudices.
THE ARMY? wtf? are you a fascist or a nazi? the army is made from young people, conscripts who would deny to obey any order.....i hoped to see the army cause the soldier would take their guns and overthrow the government,
Oh really these guys were protesting?Is that why they destoyed every single shop on their path and looted everything inside???And let me tell u something smartass,nobody in Greece want these anarchists anymore...Why?BECAUSE THEY ARE HOOLIGANS...THEY DESTROY CARS AND SHOPS OF POOR PEOPLE!
Yes, these guys were protesting. 99% of the people who protested didn't burn anything or smash anything. Also, the idea that they "destroyed every single shop on their path and looted everything inside" is a simple contradiction of the facts. And as for public reaction to the riots, sorry, but even the most conservative estimates showed clearly that most people were in favour of the protests.
Which is not to say that the destruction of poor people's cars and shops is acceptable or good.
@metaldiakos pare tora mistho 560 euro...kai vrise tous baxalakides esi......ta mathes e?ektos aftou ta magazia exoun asfalia
telos epeidi i;oun sti poreia afta einai moufes pou les eixe mono trapezes kati zara kai hnm stenaxorisai gia ta zara?ego mikro magazi den eida POTE na spane
The neoliberals and the capitalism collapsed worldwide people are angry, those in power are terrified and act stupidly and violently, people protest, is as simple as that, your conspiracy theories about CIA+communists are as ridiculous as you
These riots are an attempt of CIA to destabilise Greece and the reasons are:1)Veto by President Karamanlis about Fyrom2)The oil pipe line deal with Russia...The riots are being organised by the extremeleft (anarchists,communists ,etc)
I agree and this is what is going on in the US today. It seems that no one is looking at the big picture. There is no longer a need to stage a coup in the military sense, the Progressive movement or modernazation is no different than communism! They are using the youth to create anarchy as a grandeur stand making it sound as good change for all.
I don't see how anything going on in the US right now has got something to do with communism - quite the opposite. And historically, the CIA and other intelligence agencies have done their best to destabilize and destroy any socialist government (genuine or not).
this is a great mini docu my friend, i am going to translate it to spanish, i hope you have no problem with that, if so let me know.. solidaridad compañero, salud
It would be cool if you could put my name somewhere in the credits as the maker of the original, and let me know when it's up, but other than that go ahead! It's spreading the information that counts.
Why do you keep showing Bush in the video? How was he connected? Or are you just showing him because everyone hates him? Might as well use Hitler for your propaganda.
wutru 5 months ago
@wutru Keep showing? He appears for a few seconds here and there. And I do believe the subservience of the Greek government to the Bush administration was a relevant fact. The video also shows the leaders of other countries.
JonasKyratzes 5 months ago
@JonasKyratzes That's exactly my point. You didn't state how the Greek government is subservient. You tried showing it without commentary using imagery of Bush as "evil". It's the same tactic used over and over again when people have an agenda.
wutru 5 months ago
Respond to this video... Don't get me wrong. I like this video, and i found it because i wanted to find out how the riots started in the first place. You just discredit it in some ways with the typical propaganda stuff. Anyway, have a good day.
wutru 5 months ago
@icecreamtrepan America isn't the sole source of the problem; it exists on both sides of the Atlantic. You don't want solidarity just from them; ideally you want Greece to be its' own country entirely.
That is why I will not call myself a Communist. Libertarian Communism calls itself that, but then talks about a global federalist mess of its' own. The calls for *global* unity need to stop; they are never anything but a trap. Countries need to rule themselves.
petrus4 1 year ago
People and the power of people is what governments are afraid off. Greeks are the only ones in the world that do not leave governments(or we at least try) to control our lives. Yes it might be better, but only when it started. "BC". When you have US and Jews combining themselves to FUCK US , WELL THEN OXI BRE MALAKA i will not sit and leave you control my life. read some facts i will not state anything on this post. but when you loose your family member because he is standing up for
gre6401 1 year ago
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gre6401 1 year ago
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he deserved to die
anastasios 1 year ago
poio einai to tragoudi pou pezei sthn arxi ... kseroume ??
BadBoysG4 1 year ago
THEY WERE NOT INNOCENT,,,THEY WORKED FOR THE INTERNATIONAL BANKING INDUSTRY....BANKERS=THEIVES ANTIFA 4 EVER !
gunsofbrixton1975 1 year ago
@gunsofbrixton1975 what you've just said is stupid. 3 people have died, you don't even know them, what they believed or their character and you are calling them thieves. come on now! the death of everyone is a tragedy, with some exceptions of course. BUT those people were innocent, the crimers in that incident are the ones who threw the bomb. these people deserve to day. they killed 3 people who didn't do them anything. SHAME ON THEM AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT THEM
8rylos4ever 1 year ago
lookit dat propaganda.
this video does not have an agenda at all... nope.
pure fact and objective analysis.
yup.
TheFondler 1 year ago
The greek socialist mobs MURDERED 3 innocent workers........ FUCK THEM!!!!!
jordache2006 1 year ago
@jordache2006 The whole mobs? Really? And did you even read up on the details of the event? Not that what happened was OK, or that the violence is justified, but these generalizations are completely inappropriate. (Also, this video is about the riots two years ago.)
JonasKyratzes 1 year ago
@JonasKyratzes the murderers were police provocateurs who went out from a police bus...and were disguised as anarchists and murdered those innocent people...the whole thing was fixed because government had great problem with over one million workers who were striked.
so with this move tried to terrorize people to stay at home!
fentagin1917 1 year ago
@jordache2006
well fuck you...
u shouldn't write shit without knowing the facts..
it wasn't a murder it was an accident..
forgot2smile 1 year ago
People and the power of people is what governments are afraid off. Greeks are the only ones in the world that do not leave governments(or we at least try) to control our lives. Yes it might be better, but only when it started. "BC". When you have US and Jews combining themselves to FUCK US , WELL THEN OXI BRE MALAKA i will not sit and leave you control my life. read some facts i will not state anything on this post. but when you loose your family member because he is standing up for
gre6401 1 year ago
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@jordache2006 yeah i wondered why greek geeks leave a comment on my??????? page???????
thoostorm4 1 year ago
@jordache2006 The attack was directed against a bank. Banks are not innocent here. Therefore, every single bank employee is guilty to some extent. In todays world banks amount to terrorist organizations.
BaumerPaulGefreiter 1 year ago
Hello Jonas, thank you for putting this very informative video together. I shared it around with some people I know from Croatia, basically because if comparing our two countries, we might soon enter a very difficult phase just as the one that is going on in Greece right now.
If I may ask just a simple question - what would be the positive outcome of the protests? Status quo or changes? You said both parties are corrupt and I believe you. Could Greece emerge as some sort of worker government?
punisa 2 years ago
You, sir, are a racist of the worst kind. By saying something as incredibly racist and absurd as "greek people prefer to do such things, instead of going to work. that is why it is a backward country." you have shown that your opinions cannot be taken even remotely seriously.
Before you accuse others of being inferior for standing up to oppression, perhaps you should take a good look at your own prejudices.
JonasKyratzes 2 years ago 3
THE ARMY? wtf? are you a fascist or a nazi? the army is made from young people, conscripts who would deny to obey any order.....i hoped to see the army cause the soldier would take their guns and overthrow the government,
none3000 2 years ago 4
Because Greece is still a democracy... at least officially.
JonasKyratzes 2 years ago 2
Αλλά να μου πεις κουμμουνιστής είσαι..Τι θα λεγες τίποτα σοβαρό?Άντε διάβασε λίγο ριζοσπάστη να ανοίξουν τα ματάκια σου
metaldiakos 2 years ago
Oh really these guys were protesting?Is that why they destoyed every single shop on their path and looted everything inside???And let me tell u something smartass,nobody in Greece want these anarchists anymore...Why?BECAUSE THEY ARE HOOLIGANS...THEY DESTROY CARS AND SHOPS OF POOR PEOPLE!
metaldiakos 2 years ago
Yes, these guys were protesting. 99% of the people who protested didn't burn anything or smash anything. Also, the idea that they "destroyed every single shop on their path and looted everything inside" is a simple contradiction of the facts. And as for public reaction to the riots, sorry, but even the most conservative estimates showed clearly that most people were in favour of the protests.
Which is not to say that the destruction of poor people's cars and shops is acceptable or good.
JonasKyratzes 2 years ago
So what?The banks loot us every day
LUNCHBOXkitsos 2 years ago 13
@metaldiakos pare tora mistho 560 euro...kai vrise tous baxalakides esi......ta mathes e?ektos aftou ta magazia exoun asfalia
telos epeidi i;oun sti poreia afta einai moufes pou les eixe mono trapezes kati zara kai hnm stenaxorisai gia ta zara?ego mikro magazi den eida POTE na spane
MsQuince 1 year ago
The neoliberals and the capitalism collapsed worldwide people are angry, those in power are terrified and act stupidly and violently, people protest, is as simple as that, your conspiracy theories about CIA+communists are as ridiculous as you
malehawk 2 years ago
These riots are an attempt of CIA to destabilise Greece and the reasons are:1)Veto by President Karamanlis about Fyrom2)The oil pipe line deal with Russia...The riots are being organised by the extremeleft (anarchists,communists ,etc)
metaldiakos 2 years ago
I agree and this is what is going on in the US today. It seems that no one is looking at the big picture. There is no longer a need to stage a coup in the military sense, the Progressive movement or modernazation is no different than communism! They are using the youth to create anarchy as a grandeur stand making it sound as good change for all.
GiovannaNYC 2 years ago 4
I don't see how anything going on in the US right now has got something to do with communism - quite the opposite. And historically, the CIA and other intelligence agencies have done their best to destabilize and destroy any socialist government (genuine or not).
JonasKyratzes 2 years ago
So CIA co-operates with anarchists and communists, how idiot can someone be?
malehawk 2 years ago
Interesting video, very boring voice.
nevilleprinsloo 3 years ago
Great video, thanks!
audiopixel 3 years ago
this is a great mini docu my friend, i am going to translate it to spanish, i hope you have no problem with that, if so let me know.. solidaridad compañero, salud
marfiuss 3 years ago
No problem!
It would be cool if you could put my name somewhere in the credits as the maker of the original, and let me know when it's up, but other than that go ahead! It's spreading the information that counts.
JonasKyratzes 3 years ago
Wow! that is so interesting. I am so ignorant of what is going on in Greece.
eddyjawed 3 years ago