Exclusive: Chuck D says Public Enemy got 2pac his first acting gig

[el84oro]

chuck d can go and chew on sumfin, sly fuck, the man sued biggies estate not up to a year after the man passed for the ten crack commandment joint, lost all respect for him after that.....got no problems wit suing him or even dissin him, but suing his estate so soon while they where still in grief is some wrong shit.....hell neva even liked public enemy

[HipHop226]

@el84oro He sued them because he didn't want his name involved in any drug song that way. Nothing wrong with that,they shouldn't have did it. He had no problem with Big

[el84oro]

@HipHop226 he sued them while they were still mourning the man, forget about whether one was a fan of big's music or not but that was quite tasteless imo

[SistaNoTomsAllowed]

Chuck is a Grandmaster in that Art called HIP HOP! Period! Shot-outs to him & all of the Emcees who graced Real HIP HOP right (esp in those days)! They paved the way!

Now PE was the truth (minus step-and-fetchit flavor less flav)! He's has to be the biggest sell-out & walking minstrel show who has ever been in Rap! How could he be apart of PE & turn out the way he is?!

Chuck is right...Pac life is not a fucking movie! & too many fools associate him w/ the parts he played like they know him!

[jayd4ever]

pac wasnt a thug a criminal thug was a word pac made up meaning coming from nothing and getting to the top or be successful pac was a revolunary and a great thinker one of a kind

[jayd4ever]

rip

[slymmfish]

I agree with Chuck ..Pac was forced to be something he wasnt, ppl hate to admit it..but Tupac Amaru Shakur was NOT A THUG..he was a visionary and a great thinker..but he was seduced by the power that the "ThugLife" would give him.basically the minds and ears of every young black male in the country in the early 90's..I was one of them..but like most things in life..there was corruption and he paid the ultimate price..real love for 2pac..fuck the fans who call him gangsta or a thug..he was more

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish he was more but that doesnt mean he wasnt a thug if you told him to his face he wasnt a thug he would spit in your face kid so understand what your saying...he WAS A THUG it just that he was deeper than the average thug he had vision, ambition and a huge heart and had he lived to see 40 he would have eventually retired from the thuggin and focused on helping these brothas get out the game and do something positive...but dnt get it twisted he was a thug

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 I love wen mfs try to diagnose who Pac was that have no idea what he really was about..if u study him before his first album came out and then after his controversy and he got famous u will see the way he transfused into the thug image

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 wtf are u talking about..Pac said it himself that he created a persona for protection..so ppl wouldnt fuck with him..dont ever challenge me on Pac lil guy..and Pac would never spit in another black man's face..u sound like an idiot..

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish lol nah you dont challenge me on 2pac lil fagget i been fuckin with pac since the 90s and 2pac beat the shit out of a black man and jumped him the night he got shot so save all that pro black bull shit...pac said alot of things and did the opposite any real 2pac fan knows he was a thug

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish I'm a muthafuken sureno from la fool but i grew up on pac he was like the big brother i never had so dont come at me like you know so much about the dude idk where you from but where im from everyone had a love for pac and i know his whole life story cuz and he started out as a revolutionary but he was turned out into a thug you bitch nigga so dont question me on this shit

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 wtf does ur gang have to do with it..and I was in prison with some "REAL" 13s and they dont disrespect like u are..if u would talk like that in the joint u would get fucked up by REAL 13s..and y would u promote that on YouTube..I see ur stalking me now..so Ima fall bk, cuz Im a real G. And I never said u didnt have love for Pac..u started this shit with that "spit in ur face" comment..that was out of line..so keep banging lil dude..and u shouldnt say "nigga" do u kno ur own codes?

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish lol don't tell me what would happen if i was locked up because i did a 90 day bid in county last year so Ive been behind the walls doing my brown pride south side double s thang lil homie and the only ppl that got bombed on was niggers and peckerwoods but on the real g it aint even a racial thing for me cuz i got love for ne1 that got love for me but if you was behind the walls you would understand we segregated but when im on the outside its all love...but any ways ima give u a pass

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish on that silly comment about my own side and shit and leme say aint no1 stalkin you cuz...we both have our opinions on pac but you got out of line saying "don't even challenge me on pac lil guy, you sound like an idiot" some1 like me who has so much knowledge on pac and i come from the streets where some1 talks to u like that ima get offended and i replied with my direct emotion but as for you sayin im stalkin you this is youtube cuz so i checked out your channel and your videos

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 respect homeboy..u cool cuz, I just think we got off on some bullshit over the Pac thing..but I aint on no silly shit and I can big real enough to admit that and say my bad. The only thing I didnt understand was why u came at me so strong and saying he would "spit" in my face and all that shit. We never even talked homie and u attacked me..but I dont kno if u understood what I was saying..but its all gd. Its ok to disagree

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish 4sho listen home boy i dont know you personally but judging by your videos and how you gettin at me you seem like a kool dude with a good head on yo shoulders so i respec that...leme say this the reason i said that was because me being such a big fan actually scratch that fan isnt the proper word I consider myself a thug so when pac was rapping he was rapping to the thugs, the gz, the playerz, the pimps, the ladies, the bitches etc. so me being who I am I peepd his message n pilosophy

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish and what you said in your post was 2pac was not really he a thug and that basically he was acting or pretending to be one so he can get the attention from ppl like me and the million other thugs and havenots who truly loved his music because their were plenty of none thugs who loved him to but I'm talking strictly about the ones who really lived that life. In my opinion 2pac was a thug who did live the life and he died for it too so for you to say he wasnt is false

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish IMO he came in the game as a young wild black kid who came from the streets yea he was an activist and had political views but he was always on some wild shit he just got deeper and deeper into the game until by the time he was with death row he was actually doing the stuff he rapped against in his earlier music..he used to talk about gang banging and how we should stop but when he was with suge he was claiming blood so he was sucked into this shit

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 ummm, yea thats not true my dude. Pac made references to some of the signs and the philosophies of Soowu bloods, thats becuz many of the symbols and signs were derived from the bible, and thats y ppl were saying Pac claimed bloods. And the fact that he was with Deathrow and Suge, who had a known affiliation with the bloods. But you should know if Pac was claiming anything he wouldve yelled it to the top of his lungs and rep'd it. He was actually still against gangs wen he died!

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 U cant put him in that Lil Wayne category of him becoming a gang banger...he made reference to the Pyrmamid of the Jeruselum religion when he said "21 gun Salute" ...but that was related to the jewish religion and David. He never hated religion or talked down on any of em, he just didnt believe in churches, becuz he studied religion, from christianity to buddism, he was not a blood..it was all about false relgions. "Niggaz in Jeruselum still waiting for sings" study it my guy

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish two things your wrong about homie for one he did tlk down about religoin in a interview he did before his death check out the one he did with vibe magazine....its obvious he is speaking down on christianity...also when he claimed blood he was screaming it out loud...c your not from la so you dont know but whenever 2pac said mob or m-o-b he was claiming the hood suge was from which is e/s compton and the gang that runs that hood is mob piru. ayo message me in my pm so we can get deeper

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 Ok I will..I have seen all his interviews..but he didnt talk down on the religion, he talked down on the way man corrupted it "they plan busted/ no man can be trusted/ everything corrupted once man touch it" he studied and found a truth in all religions..dont get carried away with his persona..he was a very humble dude. As far as M.O.B, that was not him claiming any gang, that was a philosophy he might have heard from suge..but Pac wasnt a follower, and thats wat gangs do

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 Pac spoke against gangs, and he knew the politics of gangs was corrupted by drugs and materialistic goals..he never attached himself to anything that cost young lives or threaten genocide. He did was he had to do to come up as a general in DeathRow, but he was on his way out..ppl forget, he was only with DeathRow for 7mths wen he died..he was a strategist, like Machiaveli was. I dont think anyone would believe he condoned gangs as they were then. He wanted a national gang!

[sur13venice13]

@slymmfish dude i respec your opinion but the fact remains mob piru is the gang suge was from and as soon as pac got with tha row and suge he started screaming mob on every song and tattooed mob on his right arm and the night he got killed he attacked a rival gang member...

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 I get that, but Pac was doing wat he had to do to become a Don in the rap world..just like General Hemler who worked for Hitler and executed many jews..he said in his personal memoirs that he didnt hate the jews, and he didnt enjoy killing them but it was war. Pac knew he had to play the DeathRow card to the fullest, but his intent was to pay Suge off and break away..it was Pac's idea to have a DeathRow East. He wanted unity bk in the game..and Suge wanted deceit and drama..

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 Thats y Pac started recording out of a different studio other then DeathRow, becuz he was making plans to break away and be the bridge between the east and the west, thats wat the "W" stood for in reality..but it fit the philosophy of the WestCoast banging

[kmcl11]

@slymmfish That is what the W was all about. Pac loved what DR gave him.

[slymmfish]

@kmcl11 huh? lol who is DR?

[slymmfish]

@kmcl11 There was nothing that Pac loved about the music industry at that time, sorry to inform u, but Pac actually said he wanted to devote his time to acting..I think maybe Pac would've made 1 or 2 more albums after Makaveli. U cant always go by him yelling "DeathRow" ,,Pac played roles all thru his life and the DeathRow Maniac was just another role. He was a true hustler and he did wat he had to do..but his heart was so heavy that we had rare glances into his actual fears and insecurties!

[slymmfish]

@sur13venice13 He had a 3demensional personality, but I think ppl get caught up in the image more then the man. He was anti-violence, but his persona promoted war. I guess I just seperate the man from the myth and see who he really was..I think ppl close to him knew the battle he was dealing with within himself..but a Blood, def not..I kno ppl wanna attach him to something but he wasnt. And he never rep'd anything halfway or subliminally..we was saying MOB life in 91-92 in my hood

[SCGtv91]

r.i.p. the greatest!

[Igetsitin89]

rip 2pac ....... truly 1 in a million