qu0ted from the middle fat man 'basically your free'
thats why all you athiest retards wanna be athiests, so u can be free, do whatever u want, break the ten commandments and everything else. no other reason you dumb fucks
@KarlXHungus no ill rather believe in three dickheads who dont know wtf their talking about and a group of about 1000 athiests worldwide, you athiests have outsmarted every religion yet there is the least amount of you people LMAOO does it make sense? do you see how stupid and blind and in denial you people are? Now one of u idiots is gonna come and start correcting my grammar because thats all they seem to do when their speechless lolol idiots. And to everyone else, stop replying to me :)
A group of about 1,000 atheists worldwide? lol. There are more than 1,000 atheists in the not so big city i live in, you dork. A retarded chimpanzee could "outsmart" religion. I could name a few famous and very rich people who are atheists, but it wouldn't do any good would it?
@KarlXHungus A retarted chimpanzee can outsmart religion which obviously means he can explain all the unexplainable miracles that scientists cant explain. This obviously makes a retarded chimpanzee smarter than scientists and scientists are what formed athiests. So at the end of the day a retarded chimpanzee is smarter than every athiest LMAOOOO makes sense
@KarlXHungus i knew u'd be speechless. theres thousands of miracles lmaoo obviously u dont watch the news or anything..
this is the meaning of athiests correct me if im wrong.
Athiesm: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosours. Makes perfect sense LMAOOO
@azzilebosoljah You obviously know nothing about atheism. Atheism is a rejection of any supernatural beliefs due to lack of evidence. A lack of belief in a or all gods. There is no proof for your god or any god. Go educated yourself.
why will they NEVER give you straight answer when you say if that existence had to have come from somewhere then god had to come from somewhere? if god did not, then the matter of the universe did not. they start talking psychobabble nonsense about some perfect divine circle of being, or some other laughable stuff they got suckered into buying somehow. I don't care how much indoctrinating there may have been, I'd have stopped listening to that and discounted it all about about 13,which I did
Anyone may believe as they wish. Comparisons of individual beliefs are pointless. Which is why programs which promote such comparisons are useless, and wholly a waste of time.
I was pleased to see your response the way it was haha, coz usually on youtube after one response it turns into a mud slinging match involving insults, etc. Which is fine but civility suits my personality better. ANyway.
Can I just bring up one more thing with you, this doesn't necessarily involve Christian belief but just the belief in SOMETHING after death. It's reeeeally hard to explain in writing but it is simply: If there is nothing after death, then there is nothing now...
@Nacnueed - Augh! Full stop! :-) There is SO MUCH, not nothing-- in fact, we've concentrated the "anything" by removing the notion of afterlife, into "everything" happens here, to us now, WHILE we live, for this short time, to do our best, seek joy and forgiveness now, seek justice now, do what we can... it's so much more valuable to be clinging to this preciously frail earth and one another, knowing that this is IT-- here's our chance. It's all we got! it's EVERYTHING.
Well Islam offers 72 virgins, the Christian heaven offers you endlessly playing a cheerleader for god.
So Mr.Christian, if you're about 'what's in it for me' and you buy these bullshit promises, why aren't you a muslim? They have a cooler afterlife fantasy!
@Shavarnarak - Even if it were an actual virgin of the preferred gender one gets to rape in the afterlife, that's can't be much fun either... but there is some translation question in that part in the Koran in that it might actually be "72 raisins of crystal clarity"... is anyone going to fly a plane in a building over *that*?
i dont think i could stand having to listen and answer people stupid bullshit all day like matt does. mad respect for being able to put up with ignorant people all the time.
I had this exact conversation with my ex just last night over the phone.
Only difference was that during most of the conversation, he was trying to convince me that God talked to me in my dreams (I'm fairly educated in the study of dreams so I had no problem telling him that that was a load of bull shit) and we were yelling at each other.
The question "Whats in it for me?" makes me think of him as a person who is like "How can this benefit me". "Im going to do this one good thing because the bible says, I will go to heaven for doing it" - If that guy didn't have the bible, where would his morals be?
Either way, whatever you believe or don't believe, no one can explain "WHY" science is the way it is. Even though scientists can see the galaxies spinnin and the DNA a morphin' they still do not know "WHY", and that is a question that naturally lives in all of us.... I think... I've always wondered why. God is one of the many answers and I believe it's the right one. Simple.
(That's how you zoom out of an in depth conversation haha)
@Nacnueed - "42" is also an answer-- but neither it nor "god" offers one much... unless you're saying that theists just care about *an* answer, *any* answer, and can't wait around to investigate facts, nor care about a right or reasonable answer?
Also, "god" is a crappy answer if one cares about "HOW"-- also, the "why" is still pretty hazy or objectionable, even if one quotes a god character accurately. I suggest you read some bibles and holy books and see for yourself why it's insufficient.
@P0weredByPie I have and will continue to have a great interest in the meaning of life, space and time and those immense subjects. So far I haven't found a how or why for the meaning of life from those directions, and I doubt I ever will.
I don't just care about ANY answer, the reason I believe what I do is another matter.
I also doubt anyone will find "THE ANSWER" until after they die. Before that happens i'm off to a partayy! Later.
@Nacnueed - It is heartening that you don't care about just any old answer to plug the gaps in human knowledge and other limitations we have for discovery. I'm also glad that you will strive to seeks answers and enjoy life the best you can.
I don't agree that we'll find those answers after we die ('cos we'll be dead, see?) or what "god bless" means to an atheist, but you & I aren't doing too badly for being on opposing ends of a theological spectrum.
@P0weredByPie *continued* If when you die there is nothing, your body essentially becomes stardust and part of the living/ dying/ potentially infinite universe, but if the "spirit does not exist" you wont be anywhere during that time, hence you would not have been... You wont be around to care or know whether you blew your brains out or lived life to the fullest. However because we are bound by time and the instict for survival, maybe that's the only reason I believe in "the spirit"...
@P0weredByPie *continued* If when you die your body just becomes stardust, part of living/ dying/ potentially infinte universe and "the spirit does not exist", then you will not be anywhere to care or remember about life, hence you will have never existed. The fact that we are here now and aware must have a significance in this area. Maybe however because we are bound by time and a survival instinct that is the reason for this thought. Like I said, hard to explain... especially in a few paras.
@Nacnueed - You pasted this comment a few too many times :-)
I always think about what to do to seize my place here-- what will endure? We remember some names from history. Or we can trace a bloodline back to a heroic or notorious or formative person... or remember a great writer's work. Or will it just be a name on a tombstone?
Just because everything ends (and hasn't always existed in its present form) is nothing to mourn-- change and ends come to all. We are ALL a part of that reality!
@P0weredByPie Yeah live life to the fullest and you must appreciate life, but there's still the horrible parts of life, why trundle through those? If this is "IT", it's quite a cruel "IT" in my opinion.
Either way "why" is still on your mind right? I know it is on my side of the theological discussion haha.
@Nacnueed - I don't remember who originally said it, but there was a famous quote about life being "nasty, brutish, and short".
This planet does come with its share of yucky things; as someone who lives in a 1st-World country, I got lucky in the birthplace-lotto.
I see myself as any other living thing on earth except for this awesome brain-to-stem ratio where I can think in terms beyond survival, and craft my own priorities, make my own meaning.
@P0weredByPie@Nacnueed *continued 2* What I'm trying to say as well is, I find it impossible to relate to the 100% belief in what is less than nothing after life.
The caller repeatedly mentions 'perspective' but the perspective he describes for himself seems to be the equivelent of peering over the grand canyon to read a map placed at the bottom
When I heard that man, all I could think about was that if he somehow stopped believing in God that he was afraid he would no longer appreciate the things around him.
For me, I am constantly amazed by my surroundings and can't help but be fascinated by the way that they came about. To simply stamp it with God's copyright and close the issue would be such an amazing let down compared to the wonders of reality.
For any theist worried about losing appreciation; I NEVER get bored of reality!
@Mikeoo17 I agree. To be able to look outside and see beauty.....is amazing and feels me with wonder and happiness. I don't need a god to make that kind of beauty real for me. How limited they are and I once was. Cheers.
The answer is there's nothing in it for someone who doesn't value truth and honest self-contemplation. That's the whole problem. They would rather keep their Sky Santa than try to understand and appreciate what is around and within them for it's own intrinsic value. It's just too much work. They are far too jaded and lazy to be saved from the familiar comfort of ignorance.
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The caller's question is silly in and of itself. There doesn't have to be anything "in" atheism. It's just the absence or rejection of theistic beliefs. That's all. Atheism makes no nor contains any positive assertions about what it means for your life. It's just a product of valuing reason and truth.
qu0ted from the middle fat man 'basically your free'
thats why all you athiest retards wanna be athiests, so u can be free, do whatever u want, break the ten commandments and everything else. no other reason you dumb fucks
azzilebosoljah 5 months ago
@azzilebosoljah show me a person who does whatever he wants. at least try to use what little brains you have.
topperheartramada 5 months ago
@azzilebosoljah
By all means, keep believing in your sky daddy, It seems to be the only thing keeping you in line.
KarlXHungus 4 months ago
@KarlXHungus no ill rather believe in three dickheads who dont know wtf their talking about and a group of about 1000 athiests worldwide, you athiests have outsmarted every religion yet there is the least amount of you people LMAOO does it make sense? do you see how stupid and blind and in denial you people are? Now one of u idiots is gonna come and start correcting my grammar because thats all they seem to do when their speechless lolol idiots. And to everyone else, stop replying to me :)
azzilebosoljah 4 months ago
@azzilebosoljah
A group of about 1,000 atheists worldwide? lol. There are more than 1,000 atheists in the not so big city i live in, you dork. A retarded chimpanzee could "outsmart" religion. I could name a few famous and very rich people who are atheists, but it wouldn't do any good would it?
KarlXHungus 4 months ago
@KarlXHungus A retarted chimpanzee can outsmart religion which obviously means he can explain all the unexplainable miracles that scientists cant explain. This obviously makes a retarded chimpanzee smarter than scientists and scientists are what formed athiests. So at the end of the day a retarded chimpanzee is smarter than every athiest LMAOOOO makes sense
azzilebosoljah 4 months ago
@azzilebosoljah
What "unexplainable miracles"? scientists are what formed atheists? wtf are you blathering about?
KarlXHungus 4 months ago
@KarlXHungus i knew u'd be speechless. theres thousands of miracles lmaoo obviously u dont watch the news or anything..
this is the meaning of athiests correct me if im wrong.
Athiesm: The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosours. Makes perfect sense LMAOOO
azzilebosoljah 4 months ago
@azzilebosoljah You obviously know nothing about atheism. Atheism is a rejection of any supernatural beliefs due to lack of evidence. A lack of belief in a or all gods. There is no proof for your god or any god. Go educated yourself.
AvalonDraconis 3 months ago 2
why will they NEVER give you straight answer when you say if that existence had to have come from somewhere then god had to come from somewhere? if god did not, then the matter of the universe did not. they start talking psychobabble nonsense about some perfect divine circle of being, or some other laughable stuff they got suckered into buying somehow. I don't care how much indoctrinating there may have been, I'd have stopped listening to that and discounted it all about about 13,which I did
PageofLegend 6 months ago
Vic forgets to mention the feeling of liberty and the fresh look of awe at the uiverse you get when you at last discover what reality is.
azzy314159 8 months ago
Insanity's a matter of perspective too... weird.
ragnarok343 9 months ago
Anyone may believe as they wish. Comparisons of individual beliefs are pointless. Which is why programs which promote such comparisons are useless, and wholly a waste of time.
cosg9531 11 months ago
I was pleased to see your response the way it was haha, coz usually on youtube after one response it turns into a mud slinging match involving insults, etc. Which is fine but civility suits my personality better. ANyway.
Can I just bring up one more thing with you, this doesn't necessarily involve Christian belief but just the belief in SOMETHING after death. It's reeeeally hard to explain in writing but it is simply: If there is nothing after death, then there is nothing now...
Nacnueed 1 year ago
@Nacnueed - Augh! Full stop! :-) There is SO MUCH, not nothing-- in fact, we've concentrated the "anything" by removing the notion of afterlife, into "everything" happens here, to us now, WHILE we live, for this short time, to do our best, seek joy and forgiveness now, seek justice now, do what we can... it's so much more valuable to be clinging to this preciously frail earth and one another, knowing that this is IT-- here's our chance. It's all we got! it's EVERYTHING.
P0weredByPie 1 year ago
Well Islam offers 72 virgins, the Christian heaven offers you endlessly playing a cheerleader for god.
So Mr.Christian, if you're about 'what's in it for me' and you buy these bullshit promises, why aren't you a muslim? They have a cooler afterlife fantasy!
Shavarnarak 1 year ago
@Shavarnarak - Even if it were an actual virgin of the preferred gender one gets to rape in the afterlife, that's can't be much fun either... but there is some translation question in that part in the Koran in that it might actually be "72 raisins of crystal clarity"... is anyone going to fly a plane in a building over *that*?
P0weredByPie 1 year ago
i dont think i could stand having to listen and answer people stupid bullshit all day like matt does. mad respect for being able to put up with ignorant people all the time.
kiddhitta 1 year ago
This is kind of freaky...
I had this exact conversation with my ex just last night over the phone.
Only difference was that during most of the conversation, he was trying to convince me that God talked to me in my dreams (I'm fairly educated in the study of dreams so I had no problem telling him that that was a load of bull shit) and we were yelling at each other.
MovieFinatic456 1 year ago
ARGH!!! I love Stenger!!
c0rp53f4c3 1 year ago
Yeah that was a waste of time..really stupid old bastard.
HistorysMysterys 1 year ago
The question "Whats in it for me?" makes me think of him as a person who is like "How can this benefit me". "Im going to do this one good thing because the bible says, I will go to heaven for doing it" - If that guy didn't have the bible, where would his morals be?
B1aDK 1 year ago
Either way, whatever you believe or don't believe, no one can explain "WHY" science is the way it is. Even though scientists can see the galaxies spinnin and the DNA a morphin' they still do not know "WHY", and that is a question that naturally lives in all of us.... I think... I've always wondered why. God is one of the many answers and I believe it's the right one. Simple.
(That's how you zoom out of an in depth conversation haha)
Nacnueed 1 year ago
@Nacnueed - "42" is also an answer-- but neither it nor "god" offers one much... unless you're saying that theists just care about *an* answer, *any* answer, and can't wait around to investigate facts, nor care about a right or reasonable answer?
Also, "god" is a crappy answer if one cares about "HOW"-- also, the "why" is still pretty hazy or objectionable, even if one quotes a god character accurately. I suggest you read some bibles and holy books and see for yourself why it's insufficient.
P0weredByPie 1 year ago
@P0weredByPie I have and will continue to have a great interest in the meaning of life, space and time and those immense subjects. So far I haven't found a how or why for the meaning of life from those directions, and I doubt I ever will.
I don't just care about ANY answer, the reason I believe what I do is another matter.
I also doubt anyone will find "THE ANSWER" until after they die. Before that happens i'm off to a partayy! Later.
God Bless ;)
Nacnueed 1 year ago
@Nacnueed - It is heartening that you don't care about just any old answer to plug the gaps in human knowledge and other limitations we have for discovery. I'm also glad that you will strive to seeks answers and enjoy life the best you can.
I don't agree that we'll find those answers after we die ('cos we'll be dead, see?) or what "god bless" means to an atheist, but you & I aren't doing too badly for being on opposing ends of a theological spectrum.
P0weredByPie 1 year ago
@P0weredByPie *continued* If when you die there is nothing, your body essentially becomes stardust and part of the living/ dying/ potentially infinite universe, but if the "spirit does not exist" you wont be anywhere during that time, hence you would not have been... You wont be around to care or know whether you blew your brains out or lived life to the fullest. However because we are bound by time and the instict for survival, maybe that's the only reason I believe in "the spirit"...
Nacnueed 1 year ago
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Nacnueed 1 year ago
@P0weredByPie *continued* If when you die your body just becomes stardust, part of living/ dying/ potentially infinte universe and "the spirit does not exist", then you will not be anywhere to care or remember about life, hence you will have never existed. The fact that we are here now and aware must have a significance in this area. Maybe however because we are bound by time and a survival instinct that is the reason for this thought. Like I said, hard to explain... especially in a few paras.
Nacnueed 1 year ago
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Nacnueed 1 year ago
@Nacnueed - You pasted this comment a few too many times :-)
I always think about what to do to seize my place here-- what will endure? We remember some names from history. Or we can trace a bloodline back to a heroic or notorious or formative person... or remember a great writer's work. Or will it just be a name on a tombstone?
Just because everything ends (and hasn't always existed in its present form) is nothing to mourn-- change and ends come to all. We are ALL a part of that reality!
P0weredByPie 1 year ago
@P0weredByPie Yeah live life to the fullest and you must appreciate life, but there's still the horrible parts of life, why trundle through those? If this is "IT", it's quite a cruel "IT" in my opinion.
Either way "why" is still on your mind right? I know it is on my side of the theological discussion haha.
PS: sorry about the ridiculous pasting.
Nacnueed 1 year ago
@Nacnueed - I don't remember who originally said it, but there was a famous quote about life being "nasty, brutish, and short".
This planet does come with its share of yucky things; as someone who lives in a 1st-World country, I got lucky in the birthplace-lotto.
I see myself as any other living thing on earth except for this awesome brain-to-stem ratio where I can think in terms beyond survival, and craft my own priorities, make my own meaning.
Why? An unfeeling universe can't tell us! :o)
P0weredByPie 1 year ago
@Nacnueed *continued 2* What I'm trying to say as well is, I find it impossible to relate to the 100% belief in what is less than nothing after life.
Sorry for the length of this.
Laters.
Nacnueed 1 year ago
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@P0weredByPie @Nacnueed *continued 2* What I'm trying to say as well is, I find it impossible to relate to the 100% belief in what is less than nothing after life.
Sorry for the length of this.
Nacnueed 1 year ago
It's not a matter of perspective. It's a matter of actively choosing ignorance over truth!
GorgeGeorg 1 year ago
The caller repeatedly mentions 'perspective' but the perspective he describes for himself seems to be the equivelent of peering over the grand canyon to read a map placed at the bottom
glixinator 2 years ago
I just love how all the callers are sudners
peronkop 2 years ago
This show is broadcast on a local channel in Austin, Texas.
rlrsk8r1 2 years ago
sudners
redice1024 2 years ago
When I heard that man, all I could think about was that if he somehow stopped believing in God that he was afraid he would no longer appreciate the things around him.
For me, I am constantly amazed by my surroundings and can't help but be fascinated by the way that they came about. To simply stamp it with God's copyright and close the issue would be such an amazing let down compared to the wonders of reality.
For any theist worried about losing appreciation; I NEVER get bored of reality!
Mikeoo17 2 years ago 24
I also like the argument "I wouldn't want to live in a world without God"
Yeah like God has done so much for you. Also since there were never a god, you are already living in one. So it wouldn't be any different...
Sqirril 2 years ago 4
I absolutely agree 100 percent. I constantly appreciate the beauty of nature, people, everything.
sclan2 2 years ago
@Mikeoo17 I agree. To be able to look outside and see beauty.....is amazing and feels me with wonder and happiness. I don't need a god to make that kind of beauty real for me. How limited they are and I once was. Cheers.
Moralatheist101 1 month ago
The answer is there's nothing in it for someone who doesn't value truth and honest self-contemplation. That's the whole problem. They would rather keep their Sky Santa than try to understand and appreciate what is around and within them for it's own intrinsic value. It's just too much work. They are far too jaded and lazy to be saved from the familiar comfort of ignorance.
icepickmeetstemple 2 years ago 3
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Isaiahds 2 years ago
christians are masters of the perfect circle
emuholic 2 years ago 13
Yep, I wish I could learn the logic of perfect circle.
Sqirril 2 years ago 6
@Sqirril There is no logic in their circle. When logic comes into the equation most religious people shut down
MarioHc4L 3 months ago
I love stenger, and remember this show with fond memories, but Matt is definitely far better at handling the callers.
Amusing listening to a ignoramus explain to a brilliant physicist how facts ultimately don't matter
unclexbob 2 years ago 2
The caller's question is silly in and of itself. There doesn't have to be anything "in" atheism. It's just the absence or rejection of theistic beliefs. That's all. Atheism makes no nor contains any positive assertions about what it means for your life. It's just a product of valuing reason and truth.
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago
A better question would be: valuing reason and truth, what's in it for me?
MenoftheInfinite 2 years ago 2
So... the theory of gravity. What's in it for me?
Hakarfox 2 years ago 2