Making alternative diesel fuel from Wast Petroleum Oil

[MrNEOGTA]

Do you ever get tired responding to the centrifuge question, posed by so many that are too lazy read a few older posts?I think I'd start deleting them or inquire how they got online being so lazy, lol

[archersfriend]

@MrNEOGTA

Well, in today's world of instant gratification and impatients, many people have forgotten how or as you say, just too lazy to do a little research. To readdress the false security associated with centrifuge cleaning, I think it is good to repeat my feelings.

[TravelingForTruth]

@archersfriend

Went to your site, read all the pages. Sounds cool. You haven't mentioned(that I saw reading through these comments) the distillation factor. Will distillation remove the same things as the beads will or will it not? Not to bash the beads, they sounds awesome, just wondering.

Thanks!

-Mike

[archersfriend]

@TravelingForTruth

I do not have any experience with the distillation of waste oil. It seems as misleading as the use of centrifuges in that without knowing what you are starting with, how do you determine the heat, time, etc, needed to extract the nasties? Plus, distillation seems like a time consuming and dangerous process.

Thanks for watching and commenting.

[archersfriend]

Good luck with your endevors m036094, but your comments are not welcome here.

[archersfriend]

@DTG781

That kind of lying to tubers and untrue statements has earn you your just reward as will anyone with this kind on constant BS. You are history. Find some one else to play with.

[DTG781]

I was interested up until the use of the term "magic beads". As echoed elsewhere, show me the science behind it and I'll be interested. As for taking out my injectors and pump, I have a VP30 on my car; I've used 90% vegetable oil for 5k miles, and 1 micron dual filtered WMO for 10k without any ill effects. I find it a little sad that you need to fall back on a 'gimmick' without any scientific background being given.

[archersfriend]

@DTG781

Sounds like you are happy where you are with what you are doing. The chemical compound is protected, what is the scientific background on your system? How many lab analysis reports have you done on your method?

[DTG781]

@archersfriend It's simple chemistry; all I've seen so far are a couple of 10/1u filters and something that looks like a bag of ball bearings. Without at least an allusion to the chemical process that's supposedly taking place, then it merely falls into the snake oil bin along with bags of tin and magnets on the fuel line.

[LtColDaddy71]

@DTG781 my guess would be the "magic beads" are zeolite granuals, which would serve the purpose of removing excess water. Motor oils do get saturated with condensation from the crank case over time, altho I think it vaporizes out pretty easily once the engine is hot. I use them to "finish" my ethanol fuel that I make. It takes it from 90% pure to 99%. It would be a good precaution to take, and the granuals never wear out, just dry them in the sun, and use them over and over.

[LtColDaddy71]

@DTG781 He's a good old boy, I'd say a centrifuge would be handy to filter the oil down. I just refine the oil through a reactor. In an oxygen free enviro, heat it until it vaporizes, condensate the vapors, and whah lah, ya get diesel. It can be done with plastic, but it's much easier to do with used engine oil. You get a byproduct very similiar to "petrocoke" which can be burned like coal for other uses.

[FelchBelcher]

If your 'diesel' is removing the galvanizing zinc, then it is very corrosive.

[archersfriend]

@FelchBelcher

You may have missed the point. Diesel, All Diesel, will take the Zinc OFF any galvanize metal. Therefore, you should never use zinc plated anything that holds diesel.

[dadoVRC]

@archersfriend What?

I don't know the US diesel quality, but here I never see any zinc-plated pipe damaged when used in diesel fuel...

[CincyBlackCats56]

@FelchBelcher Dumbass

[FelchBelcher]

@CincyBlackCats56 If you have anything intelligent to say then by all means.... otherwise try again and if you feel so compelled to jerk your own knee out of joint at least TRY to do so in multiple syllable sentences.

[CincyBlackCats56]

@FelchBelcher Dude, just stop trying to display your intellect on youtube.. Your no different than the other hundred thousand users on here that take pride in their mediocre vocab and diarrhea sentences consisting of all CAPS and smart ass "parentheses." Enjoy the vids on youtube instead of looking for something to correct, I mean you gotta understand wer all not as smart as u.. But until then, i'll stick to Dumbass for all my replies to people like you, which believe it or not has 2 syllables.

[FelchBelcher]

@CincyBlackCats56 If you mean to contract "you are" it's 'you're' not 'your' illiterate idiot.

Furthermore, I acrimoniously abnegate your inference any cogent verisimilitude....cunt.

[CincyBlackCats56]

@FelchBelcher U proved my point...

[FelchBelcher]

@CincyBlackCats56 You have no point, as does anyone who's as sharp as a bowling ball. Besides you still cannot spell correctly.

[archersfriend]

@rickm09

Wrong rick, any idiot can get water out of oil, just leave it sit and water settles to the bottom to be easily drained off. Heating can speed up the water separation no doubt, but it is not necessary. You should NOT use oil with water in the first place.

[archersfriend]

@archersfriend

To rickm09 and other non believers, Just keep spending $4-5 a gallon and more on fuel, I could care less if you want to do that. If you bad mouth me and the products I use, you are out of here forever.

[tinkerman01]

spend 140 bucks and get you a centrifuge for pa bio diesel. .5or less micron filtering. HAhha at the magic beads.

[archersfriend]

@tinkerman01

The centrifuge may be helpful for solids, but there are things that can not be filtered and unless you know what is in the stuff you are spinning and the specific gravity of the "nasties" and at what rpm they will spin off AND have separate outputs for each nasty, you are SCREWED using ONLY a centrifuge. Also, nothing on the site you recommend is $140 that will clean the waste oil. It is more like $330 to 800 depending on what you need.

[tuguybear]

@archersfriend I run my diesel Jeep on waste oil Veg and mineral,I just fliter it thru some cloth.My Jeep runs perfectly.

[archersfriend]

@tuguybear

Time bombs go tic, tic, tic, and eventually go BOOM!

[tuguybear]

@archersfriend Engines break down even when run on proprietry diesel.My car does have a fuel filter,I change it when it clogs.Anyway I have a spare engine.

[archersfriend]

THE WAST OIL MUST BE CLEANED FIRST. JUST FILTERING WILL NOT WORK, THERE ARE SOME CONTAMINANTS THAT CAN NOT BE FILTERED. THUS THE NAME P R O C E S S O R! The beads absorb contaminants that can not be filtered, so it makes the oil SAFE.

[totalacedude]

Umo as fuel is a great idea in theory but a friend uses it as genny fuel and ive lost count of the engines hea gone through. The unburnt ash cloggs injector o/p seat and top end wear due to abrasion loss of power breathing etc but he uses transit engines for it and are 10 a penny. I wudnt use it in something u love to drive. He has been doing this for years and has it down to an art to minimise wear. Ian

[maddkraut03]

great vid. Do you think that this stuff could be used in a fuel oil home heating system? thanks

[archersfriend]

@maddkraut03

Absolutely can be used. Several units have been sold to people doing just that, no diesel vehicles owned.

[archersfriend]

The "Making" of Alternative Diesel Fuel is what the system does. Anyone running waste petro oil without throughly cleaning it had better have a Large savings account to pay for repairs. Gas in a diesel is a disaster in the makine.

[MaddCow99]

So, basically you aren't making diesel. You are running a truck off of filter WMO. From the title I thought that were heating WMO and pulling diesel off of it. Just FYI my dad ran his truck off of non filtered WMO and gas mix.

[TheMike42x]

i run my car on wvo and waste motoroil

what is the magic bean?

i filter my oil to 10 micron using paper filter and pour to my car no conversions

[archersfriend]

@TheMike42x Hi Mike, Thanks for looking at the site. There are things that can not be filtered that harm your engine. Doing what you are doing is like playing Russian Roulette. It is just a matter of time before the "Nasties" in the used oil get your engine. 10 microns is not good enough either, you need to go to 1 micron.

You must get rid of acids, anti-freeze, and other non-filterable contaminants for safe fuel. See the link to the page on the "bead pod" on our site. The beads absorb.

[TheMike42x]

@archersfriend thank u so much, i learn something new everyday

then again, em i'm not trying to be an azz

but i seen cars run with bad headgasket and coolant leaks into engine

and oil into raidator and em the car still runs (gas engine)

mine is a mercedes 300sd diesel engine, i think it can take alittle of antifreeze

i have no ideal about acid, but u r right i should be careful, engine damage is not worth the few bux im saving, thank u for ur reply

[archersfriend]

You are correct jaspaabe on the mix first if it is practical to do so. However, mixing may cause a reaction to what is in the oil to cause it to be "UN filterable" and that would further burden the processor beads.

Also, if you do not get the acids, and other products out that CAN NOT BE FILTERED, you are going to ruin parts or ALL of you expensive diesel engine. Get one of these processors and make you fuel safe.

[thetrico]

So... Is better to mix the diesel after filtering the motor oil in the 1 micron filter bag? That simple?

1 micron filtered oil (50%) + random diesel (50%) = ¿SAFE? black diesel?

What about the acids? How to take them off the black oil?

Thanks so much for the vid.

Cheers from Spain.

[archersfriend]

The bead pod in the processor takes out the bad stuff. Filtering alone will NOT make the oil safe. There is a page on the site about the beads (filter media).

[jaspaabc]

Hi great video, Just to let you knon that i have been running my 1994 transit van and a Mitsubishi Parjero on old engine oil for two years now. (Black Bio Diesel)

My tip is to mix 50/50 first then filter.

its a little quicker

[archersfriend]

Anyone wanting to know where to get the filter bags and other stuff, can submit the form on the web site.

[archersfriend]

If you just use a centrifuge, you will most likely be burning acids in your $10,000 engine.  Why take the chance?

[djdevil360]

has this guy ever heard of a centrifuge?

[natezitting]

Hey awesome video! Thanks for posting it. can you tell me where i can find the filter bags you showed? Thanks

[robinhooodvsyou]

Just distill your oil....

[bluegrassfuel]

Our systems are not very complicated and they clean just as well as a centrifuge ,if not better. Without heating and finding the right pump pressure the centrifuge actually doesn't clean very well unless you keep passing the fuel through again and again and again. Why make it so complicated using a centrifuge, our systems are much easier to operate, they are a one pass filtration process and they operate for pennies per gallon. The centrifuge does what for the acid content in oil??? Nothing.

[spartaeus]

Why make it so complicated? Just use a simple centrifuge. You will not need any filters. And it will cost you pennies per gallon. Google centrifuge . They are sold on ebay. You can make one. There are videos on youtube.

[bluegrassfuel]

Hi, great video and thanks for putting this video out and for your purchase of one of our units, found this here and thought we might make a comment to your magic bead buddies. The "magic beads" are a displacement type3F polymer that removes any type of acid, water, antifreeze and parrafin. We are mostly trying to get the acids out of the oil since they are the main issue. We have a chemical engineer on our team that helped design this polymer. Glad to hear things are going well with your truck.

[peckiledorf]

sweet i gota go out in the barn and get to work

[archersfriend]

The injectors, pump, and engine has continued to work just fine. One truck has used the mixture for about 18 months and the other truck has used the mix since Feb. this year and no fuel system or engine problems from either truck.

[dieselscience]

How long did your injector pump last?

[shaggydoo505]

i thought this would be something helpful and useful only to find that in actuality it comes off as a testimonial commercial, i was really interested in it till the "magic beads" everything was ingenously homemade except this "key" ingredient to the mix... so will it work without the beads cause mythbusters got a diesel to run on straight fry oil and while that was a short test run.... for all that hassle you go through what happens if you loose your supply of magic beads?

[archersfriend]

Jaeh1, keep your money. You do not read enough to understand. I do not MAKE the processor, I just tell you where to get the items I use in the video.

[Jaeh1]

as though Merlin or the ghost of Harry Houdini lives and works his magic on the mixture? I don't want to hear about 'magic'. What is the science, the chemistry, the process? If you can explain and show it works, I am interested, and may be motivated to buy your product instead of taking time to build my own experimental product. If you can't explain it, or show it works, you have wasted my time, and my money will definitely stay in my pocket.

[Jaeh1]

I reviewed your video and webpage. Still, no clear explaination about the 'magic beads'. In the video, these 'beads' are IN the tank. One paragragh on the webpage has the 'beads' in the sprayer body.

The job of these 'beads' is understandable, but there are filters that will remove the antifreeze/water, paraffin, etc. Your 1 micron filter will remove paraffin at low temps, when it is a solid. If it will pass through your filter, then it won't harm your engine. Why make it sound.....

[archersfriend]

If one reads through the comments, one can find answere to many things.

[ewmegoolies]

8 minutes of blathering on filters, then 10 seconds about "magic beads". So, what are the beads?

[archersfriend]

The Alternative fuel button is the last one on the left on the home page.

Just above the Bio diesel link is the order information. You can use Paypal or MO.

[archersfriend]

Look on the navigation bar on the left of the page on the site. The Alternative fuel button takes you to the page about this. Also you will find a link for getting all the information about how we make the fuel.

[599891]

I must be an idiot but I can't find it. There are all kinds of alternative things but I could'nt find this one. You need a stand alone website. Wish I could find it, looks cool.

[599891]

Tried to find info on that site, no luck.Lots of bio info but could'nt find this.

[ptokish]

Five Stars!!!

[archersfriend]

I do not know what kind of beads they are. They are provided from the kit supplier and he ain't saying. I kept a few to show around, and so far, no one knows what they are. The supplier of the system, says that the beads will soak up the undesirable liquids and hold it in suspension. The beads expand over time (several thousand gallons of processing), then must be replaced.

The supplier says they will expand a great deal and that it is obvious when they no longer work. Time will tell.

[90pupdiesel]

Are your "magic beads" simply decacent bags?

[deejayehn]

No. It isn't the packs of desiccant that you mean. Similar principle though;-)

[MadBadVoodo]

Great Video!!!

Five Stars!!!