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you got to love the caldari, even when the Gallente bombed there planet and kept it in there borders, the Caldari still fought and asked for them to surrender. there people you got to at lest respect by how they do things.
I'd like to think of Amarr as the US/Middle East, the Caldari as Japan/Germany, the Minmatar as the African Countries, and the Gallente as southwestern Europe.
@ploothable Indeed! Although the liberalism that the Gallente wishes to force upon others is something America likes to do. "Spreading democracy around the world", as they always say.
Caldari is a cool race. A militaristic society with a capitalistic economy that benefits everyone. Gallente liberalism is something I like as well. Minmatar's are bunch of faggots (I play Minmatar, but I'm gonna give it up for a Caldari + a Gallante) and the Amarr can be compared to conservative Muslims.
@ImperaGaming Amarr can actually be compared to conservative white Americans and the native american indians and black slaves during their history as the Minmitar. Peace :)
@ploothable Obviously I forgot to mention the nationalism in my comparison. Today Germany are a country, much like all western nations, filled with 'white guilt'. Nationalism doesn't exist there, although they have declared 'multiculturalism' to be dead.
Japan is a nationalistic nation - with all right. Let's hope they aim for the robots and not immigration. Their culture shouldn't die.
@ploothable It's hardly my fault. I live in Sweden. A nation controlled by fuckers who are selling out my country, saying that Swedish culture is "barbaric", and that the rest has come from outside.
I'm not sure what you want to say in your message, but no - the German culture shouldn't have died. It's too late, though. Germany is basically fucked, as is Britain and Sweden. Denmark and Norway will survive.
@ImperaGaming Japan has had a lot of immigration throughout its history especially with Korea, but also China
Immigration and the flow of people has always happened throughout history. You are choosing to make an issue out of it lol. Culture is the issue. Not immigration mr racist. People should respect the laws and customs of the country they choose to live in ... and btw I know many white western people who settle in other countries who do not. I can give you many examples if you wish. Peace
I actually like the Caldari because THE MISSILES! I love the Amarr too because the LASERS and ship designs... So I have two accounts, one Caldari and one Amarr.
@AndrewzDescent Some Libertarians I guess. It would take a lot of time for a free market to turn into this though and some people would definitiely vote against it such as Libertarian socialists. If the Caldari state was Libertarian and democratic it would probably fall apart from the people in the poverty area. Plus Libertarians despise bureaucracy which wouldn't go down well in the Caldari state.
I can't help it, but the Caldari are my favourites. The Amarr are just a bunch of quasi-medival theocratic ultra-conservatives, the Minmatar are a bunch of hippie losers, and the Gallente are the typical Starbucks-drinking iCrap-using holier-than-thou shmucks. The Caldari however remind me of a good old Heinlein novel such as Starship Troopers, of the Starcraft Terrans, or of the Alien films. THIS is the kind of science fiction I love!
@FnordPerfect Hm, never mind the fact the Gallente Federation resembles more of a 22nd century Earth faction in the sense of being democratic and multiracial? You've got Western, Indian, Chinese and African (Minmatar) esque races all blended in to one diverse state. Sort of like the UNSC from Halo or the Systems Alliance from Mass Effect.
@FnordPerfect You sir, just wrote every single thought I have about the different races. :P Well, I do like Minmatar because their ships are the PERFECT pirate looking ships. But other than that. I support Caldari all the way. :)
@FnordPerfect what ever the intro says, the caldari are facists, and i like facist because they always have neit looking armys (Whermacht, Italian state army, The Helghast(from killzone)), thats why they are my fav's.XD
Actual, a meritocracy may possibly be better than a democracy. Those with ability rather than wealth or popularity (unless of course popularity is a needed skill) have control.
@prymas82 caldari have little econmical freedom due to business dictatorship, head onto the eve site they make it pritty clear, caldari is the hardest to understand because its a mix a capitalism, socialism, and communism, yes hard to picture, captalist where the companies have form monoplies, socialist where all citizens must benifit somehow, communist due to strick working laws and forcing people to work. its explained on the site but its alittle hard to grasp
@prymas82 nahhh. USA is capitalist, but also democratic. China is a communist country with a mixed economy. The Caldari don't seem much like America. they're more like Russia, Japan, and Iran, due to huge militarism, massive empire building, and extreme nationalism. USA, however, is against both Fascists and communists. Second, fascism is not true capitalism, since it involves a free market economy under government control. Capitalism is free market without government control.
What do you call health care? Insurance companies? Bail-outs? America is more tilted to the fascism than you think. Although obviously a far cry from the raw Caldari State.
A mere example: If you create a huge corporation in America, and then 40 years later it begins to collapse, the government would likely throw you tons of money to keep you going. The government thus directly intervenes with the market.
@TheThunderhammer And what you mean by that is that some extreme nationalist party in the USA is gonna take over and remove capitalism with fascism once the nationalists ruin the economy.
What makes me sad about the majority of Caldari rolepplayers is the absurdly shallow understanding they have of their faction. There is so much more to being 'Caldari' than hating the Federation and making silly slogans like this, but the people who do don't seem to get over the fact that their 'being Caldari' revolves around constantly opposing another faction. Shame.
P.S: That's Gallente, not Galente - and there are other factions in their Federation too.
you people think it is a centralized government under corporations but truth is it is not for it a decentralized government under the Senate and people. There are some corrupt people in America and the Senate but doesn't mean that corporations control it. It is mostly controlled by the senate, the president, and the people. So it is indeed a decentralized government.
there is a difference between caldari and USA. When i live in my country, its quite peaceful and we are facing unemployment like other countries. a The difference is that it is not run by corporation, but by the states including texas. The states have their own set of runs and on 9/11, it was not our government. truth is we don't know who caused it really, except osama. The caldari however are ruled by corporation instead of its people and states.
caldari = asians / galente = fatmericans / minmatar = african shit / amar = eu ... thats how it looks in real world but anyway i like playind as caldari
Harsh mega corporate capitalism, questionable freedom, Slavery and semi-fanatic religiousness, the races of eve reminds me of America's bits and pieces.
In my opinion the Caldari can't be compaired to anything currently or previously in rule. It's a Capitalistic community, with personal gain and opportunity in focus.
As far as I know, the USSR stood for communism/socialism, which favour "equality" of everyone and no tolerance for anyone who thinks otherwise.
Caldari might even be far to the right-wing, close to Anarchy, with no real controlling power.
i dont compare caldari in that sense more in the style. united corparations with slavery in a sense military history and belife and a hatread of the gallente which the russians had for the americans.
But even so, the Russians hated/disliked the Americans for reasons I have no idea of, probably way or life/government, while the Caldari hate the Gallente because of the Caldari/Gallente war.
I don't really know all the back story, but I think the Caldari lost their homeplanet to the Gallente some time ago, which is the source of their hatred.
yeah they caputurd cladari prime but was recaputured by tibesth heath while concord was offline.but the caldari dont like the gallente because they are stuck up in a way as they dont like closed societys that was part of the trouble with america and russia. also the caldari where allied with the galleantae but broke away due to diffrences in culture and society same with america and russia after ww2
I never said that Russians don't hate Americans for reasons unknown to me, I said that, and I'll quote myself; "the Russians hated/disliked the Americans for reasons I have no idea of"
The keyword was "Hated", which is different from "Hate". What I perhaps failed to point out, was that I really meant that I had no clue why Americans and Russians hated eachother enough for the Cold War to even start out. Nor do I really care, it's all uninteresting history to me.
The Caldari's government is based Meritocracy which is a system of a government or other organization where in appointments are made and responsibilities assigned to individuals based upon demonstrated talent and ability (merit).[1] In a meritocracy, society rewards (via wealth, position, and social status) those who show talent and competence as demonstrated by past actions or by competition. Evaluation systems, such as formal education, are closely linked to notions of meritocracy.
Amarr = White Christian Racists that used Christianity to colonise other countries and cultures ... e.g. The British Empire, Medieval European Countries ...
Minmatar = Any Tribal culture that rose up against their white slave masters [Haiti, Africans, Native American Indians, Maoris, Aboriginies ... and so on
um ist exept for the fact that the caldari dictatrship is based in corparations there very similre seconed the gallente in the 1st war blockaded caldari prime and then invaded they are the ones who started the war the beguining the caldari just tryed to evacuate there people so peacful and self defence debatable
no the gallentae blockaded caldari prime so caldari terroists liveing on gallentae prime working on there own bombed Nuva Rubena and that lead to the full blown invasion of caldari prime
they found systems that wherenet known to them under caldari control. the extremist goverment at the time demanded theses systems be put under there control as the caldaris felt that there way of life was slowly being taken away the caldari refused so left the gallentae federation peacefully. but caldari prime is in the same system as gallentae prime so the gallentae where worried about another nation being in the same syatem so blockaded caldari prime which led to the war.
no Caldari state announced there independence soon after the gallente states where established
and the extreme right wing gouverment of the Gallenteans took the power of the gallente federation AFTER the attack on Nuva Rubena
the gallenteans and Caldari never got on the same page cause Caldari where militairy and economic centred Caldari and Amarr could coöperate however cause they had the same Ideas
and Gallente made sure that the Minmatar could survive as a race and not get enslaved again
small correction about the caldari, They have japanese blood lines and names so they (I think) have japanese culture in there as well.
To me Caldari are a mix of USA + JPN
Other than that your pretty much bang on. I should know that the ammar are like the Christian racist colonists, with medieval traits because I am British and I do know my country's history. And yes We did take slaves from tribal countries and put them to work in Jamaica.
Greece? Idk also i think the arab, or rather southern US states would be Ammar since both are obsessed with forming a religious state like Israel but with a notion of reclaiming the whole world for there god.
But then i rarely herd anything from Greece when did they go world domination through religion?
well in the rise of the greek empire under the rule of alexander the great, relligion was a major part in warfare and civil matters, as like the early roman empire.
Well religion was important to both Greeks and Romans but that was second to collecting tributes ($) both allowed barbaric religions to continue in conquered territories rather then facing revolting states, but yes did encourage there own in hopes of slowly assimilating them.
Sorta but the Amarr motive was religion, but i guess you could make that similarity argument because both Amarr, Greek and Roman motive for conquest was for slaves the backbone of all three economies.
However the internal structure of the Greek and Roman is in sharp contrast of the Amarr with republic vs Monarchy, at lest for pre-Alexander and pre-Ceaser.
Caldari = America, China and Russia combined into one large capitalistic dictatorship.
Gallente = Democratic Central Europe combined with a small drop of Japan.
Amarr = the religious in general.
Minmatar = the jews.:D (No offence, cant you take a joke?!)
Safe to say, the other countries werent rich enough to travel through the EVE gate and are currently taking over the milky way with torches and pitchforks while the rest of us are gone.
Liberalism might let you think about the word "liberty", but too much freedom wont make the world a better place.
Socialism is also needed if you want a fair and free society. For instance I think taking away some freedoms could make someone more free. Like a weapon law, making it illegal just to buy weapons off the street.
@HawK047 and second, do you think that communism is a better choice? actually, communism never works because of discrimination of religion, cause of poverty, and killing of minorities.
I dunno man, Caldari are like the Japanese and Romans mixed together on crack. The USA most resembles Gallente hands down. The Eu is equally comparable.
But then again, this phobia of the nordic countries of EU for capitalism is kinda funny. "...and its hyper-capitalistic..." - to be honest Caldari seems to me more a place in which the economy is controlled by the state and the state is controlled by a few corps, which is the perfect academic definition of "mercantilism" NOT the definition of "capitalism". Mercantilism is in fact a degeneration of capitalism back towards a socialist idea of economy, so no free market, but the illusion of it
...in Mercantilism a few top corps create trusts and monopolies and impede import of goods that damage them and last but not least they always cause the small companies to never emerge. Like a big tree in the forest does with the small ones below it. South America is the perfect example of Mercantilism. Caldari resembles a bit this, but again.... CCP manages the market to be open. Kind of weird. In a real world there would be import taxes.
@woodwyrm well you're right, but most fascist states are against liberalism, capitalism, and communism. I'm honest enough to know that Fascism is not capitalism, just similar, but more dictatorial. What makes a Capitalist state is a Middle Class. But not all social branches are meant to degrade men. There is good capitalism and bad capitalism.
@CoreyStudios2000 capitalism and fascism arent even in the same catagory, one is a econmic system the other is a goverment system, capitalism is just no restrictions on economy and citizens and companies run it. fascism is extream nationalism, u can have a fascist capitalist country
Actually, by definition 'fascism' encompasses both economic and political systems, combining a single-party rule (can be any number of takes on totalitarianism) along with heavy corporatism focused on nationalistic goals. Think of it as capitalistic totalitarianism.
Also, I'd like to point out to a lot of people on here:
Democracy, Totalitarianism, etc = Political systems
Capitalism, Communism, etc = Economic systems (Yes, you can have democratic communism)
@Zealot1011 Communism is a type of government not an econmic system, socialism is the economic system which operates under communist governments. Also fascism is when a central body places strict socio/economic controls over it's population. Implied aspects also say fascism is when a democracy sets up a dictatorship (we don't call monarchies fascist and you can't have political parties unless there are some democratic institutions). There's no other requirement in economics, just strict regs
Those are indeed worthy points to make, and I'm glad to see your comment as the highest rated. I honestly think that economics should be taught at High School level education, as it is the core of our civilization and every Human deserves to know these things. Though I unfortunately suppose that would be too dangerous to particular interests, no?
@Zealot1011 Fascism still requires state control of the economy. Nominal private ownership doesn't mean much when the state still controls everything. Gallente are more Capitalistic in a true sense than Caldari. Caldari have a caste system and no actual economic freedoms. Calling them Capitalistic is just plain inaccurate. Corporatist, Mercantilist, etc, yes, but not Capitalist.
@worldofdraculas Not really, their system is completely different in that the corporations ARE the government. Its the difference between government owning corporations, and the corporations owning the government.
@HawK047 the USA hardly resembles Cadari and are more similar to Gallente due to the country to be full of almost all ethnic groups and that the USA has given each state the right to have their own laws. USA is a decentralized government.
@Mautiks caldari isnt socialist, they are capatlist dominated by the big companies, the goverment wishes to move it back to a communist type society where people are given stick jobs but the ones who work hard are treated the best, gallente is a socialist federatiion. other 2 i agree on
It is the supposed strongest military faction, but mind that every faction in EvE has its weak and strong points.
Who has the best tools is completely under how efficiently you (the player) uses them
So yes, and no. Some say that they have the best electronic warfare gear and I tend to agree, but the other three factions also have something that can give them an edge.
But mind that Caldari is a military nation. It could be that they are the strongest...
In the past the Caldari lived in the Federation, but were colonies from the Caldari, which were kept secret before the Gallentern, which became the cause of the tensions between Caldari and Gallentern, which led to the replacement of the federation and in the long run to the war between the peoples.
In this war the Gallente kill many caldarians, when they conquered Caldari Prime, because Caldari Prime is in the same solarsystem with Gallente Prime.
Story wise I would recommend that you read Gallente-Caldari War: The early days, The Breakout & The War Drones On. This stuff is on the EVE site. Gives some good history on the Caldari.
Gallente Prime and Caldari Prime both reside in the same system and both peoples had knew about each other for a long time. The Caldari where initially part of the Federation but
The Caldari come off more as the Soviet Union rather than the United States, just replace communism with capitalism.
MrBranagain 1 week ago
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jlmemo 2 months ago
Hehe, for the sake of the caldari, lets "OCCUPY JITA"! No more crony capitalism. :)
Philipacodude 3 months ago
Gallente= USA/EU
Caldari= USA/Japan/Libya
Minmatar= African countries
Amarr= Roman Empire/Vatican/The British
CoreyStudios2000 3 months ago
lol sounds like the u.s. lol
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ALEX250692 6 months ago
We caldari are space jews. Which is funny since we are the most nazi race in the game XD
For the State!
StormRaven332 8 months ago
@StormRaven332 Nazi?... How do you get Nazi into a system where several different political parties are elected by the people? <_<;
atatyrknumber1 7 months ago
Only one thing u have to know, Obey caldari.
SvitjodsWarrior 9 months ago 2
Sounds like cyberpunk
TheChris4 9 months ago
I dont know what people are arguing about. The only capitalist country left is hong kong and they are just a city state.
Fredfredbug4 10 months ago
USA is Caldari
Mohsin77 11 months ago
WELL ACTUALLY THE CHINESE SEEM MORE CALDARI THE U.S IS MORE OF GALLENTE LOL.
REXXBAILEY 10 months ago
you got to love the caldari, even when the Gallente bombed there planet and kept it in there borders, the Caldari still fought and asked for them to surrender. there people you got to at lest respect by how they do things.
sonicspeedx13 11 months ago 2
Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg? Dann geht auf youtube da habt ihr ihn in jedem thread!
Is there a video without Nazi discussion?
noirsebion 11 months ago
Wollt ihr den totalen Krieg? Dann geht auf youtube da habt ihr ihn in jedem thread!
Is there a video without Nazi discussion?
noirsebion 11 months ago
see those flashing lights in the background when the ships appear? thats my favorite, the leviathan
demonhunter2213 1 year ago
I'd like to think of Amarr as the US/Middle East, the Caldari as Japan/Germany, the Minmatar as the African Countries, and the Gallente as southwestern Europe.
ploothable 1 year ago
@ploothable Indeed! Although the liberalism that the Gallente wishes to force upon others is something America likes to do. "Spreading democracy around the world", as they always say.
Caldari is a cool race. A militaristic society with a capitalistic economy that benefits everyone. Gallente liberalism is something I like as well. Minmatar's are bunch of faggots (I play Minmatar, but I'm gonna give it up for a Caldari + a Gallante) and the Amarr can be compared to conservative Muslims.
ImperaGaming 1 year ago
@ImperaGaming Amarr can actually be compared to conservative white Americans and the native american indians and black slaves during their history as the Minmitar. Peace :)
Mohsin77 11 months ago
@ploothable Obviously I forgot to mention the nationalism in my comparison. Today Germany are a country, much like all western nations, filled with 'white guilt'. Nationalism doesn't exist there, although they have declared 'multiculturalism' to be dead.
Japan is a nationalistic nation - with all right. Let's hope they aim for the robots and not immigration. Their culture shouldn't die.
ImperaGaming 1 year ago
@ImperaGaming But did the German culture have to?
ploothable 1 year ago
@ploothable It's hardly my fault. I live in Sweden. A nation controlled by fuckers who are selling out my country, saying that Swedish culture is "barbaric", and that the rest has come from outside.
I'm not sure what you want to say in your message, but no - the German culture shouldn't have died. It's too late, though. Germany is basically fucked, as is Britain and Sweden. Denmark and Norway will survive.
ImperaGaming 1 year ago
@ImperaGaming white power ! white power ! :)
Mohsin77 11 months ago
@ImperaGaming Japan has had a lot of immigration throughout its history especially with Korea, but also China
Immigration and the flow of people has always happened throughout history. You are choosing to make an issue out of it lol. Culture is the issue. Not immigration mr racist. People should respect the laws and customs of the country they choose to live in ... and btw I know many white western people who settle in other countries who do not. I can give you many examples if you wish. Peace
Mohsin77 11 months ago
HAIL CALDARI!
GameBoiBoi 1 year ago
tssk!
Matari rules the space dust! \o/ All hail the mighty rust buckets in the sky! \o/
Death to Amarr! \o\o/o/
MasterOfFlash92 1 year ago
@MasterOfFlash92
i thought minmatar are always praying that their ships keep together when the next civilian railgun charge hits them...
for the state!
Kreppklebeband 1 year ago
@Kreppklebeband HA! >:) we r flying rust buckets to show just how good we are kicking caldari and amarrian ass in ducctaped buckets of rust! ;)
MasterOfFlash92 1 year ago
@MasterOfFlash92
Hell, if someone destroys my ship with a flying debris-field they deserve it.
TheDrunkenSwede 1 year ago
I actually like the Caldari because THE MISSILES! I love the Amarr too because the LASERS and ship designs... So I have two accounts, one Caldari and one Amarr.
bluesmoke21 1 year ago
You ever get the feeling even though were allied with them we also might go to war with them soon?
Damionscool 1 year ago
This is partly a libertarian's wet dream
AndrewzDescent 1 year ago
@AndrewzDescent Some Libertarians I guess. It would take a lot of time for a free market to turn into this though and some people would definitiely vote against it such as Libertarian socialists. If the Caldari state was Libertarian and democratic it would probably fall apart from the people in the poverty area. Plus Libertarians despise bureaucracy which wouldn't go down well in the Caldari state.
Rikamonjaro 1 year ago
FIRE ZE MISSLEZ
Reneg4dez 1 year ago
Caldari is a Nationalist Meritocracy.
Khounur 1 year ago
the caldari is of who mastered the power of the nuke (bane torpedo and doom citadel torpedo)
EVEDaniel 1 year ago
I can't help it, but the Caldari are my favourites. The Amarr are just a bunch of quasi-medival theocratic ultra-conservatives, the Minmatar are a bunch of hippie losers, and the Gallente are the typical Starbucks-drinking iCrap-using holier-than-thou shmucks. The Caldari however remind me of a good old Heinlein novel such as Starship Troopers, of the Starcraft Terrans, or of the Alien films. THIS is the kind of science fiction I love!
FnordPerfect 1 year ago 48
@FnordPerfect Totally, Caldari represent the perfect humans. Like in Starship Troopers or any good sci-fi
bengacris 1 year ago
@FnordPerfect Hm, never mind the fact the Gallente Federation resembles more of a 22nd century Earth faction in the sense of being democratic and multiracial? You've got Western, Indian, Chinese and African (Minmatar) esque races all blended in to one diverse state. Sort of like the UNSC from Halo or the Systems Alliance from Mass Effect.
Seriphyn 7 months ago
@FnordPerfect You sir, just wrote every single thought I have about the different races. :P Well, I do like Minmatar because their ships are the PERFECT pirate looking ships. But other than that. I support Caldari all the way. :)
atatyrknumber1 7 months ago
@FnordPerfect what ever the intro says, the caldari are facists, and i like facist because they always have neit looking armys (Whermacht, Italian state army, The Helghast(from killzone)), thats why they are my fav's.XD
halorecon95 4 months ago
@FnordPerfect Quasi-medieval theocratic ultra-conservatives and their re-inventing space-flight after the Dark Ages. Puh!
HistoryLubber 3 months ago
Never forget Admiral Tovil Toba.
Dinyctis 1 year ago 5
CALDARI 4 LYFE
waremi51 1 year ago
Actual, a meritocracy may possibly be better than a democracy. Those with ability rather than wealth or popularity (unless of course popularity is a needed skill) have control.
Hm... time to do some research.
anubis9109 1 year ago 2
Caldari State: America's future.
LaughingMage 1 year ago
@LaughingMage Better than Gallente.
ParadigmShiftr 6 months ago
For me it's rather this way:
Caldari: USA, Japan, China, Asian Tigers (rich, capitalistic countries with large economical freedom)
Gallente: European Union (socialists, a lot of bureaucracy, democratic, defenders of personal freedom, enemies of economical freedom)
Amarr: Medieval european christian countries (period of crusades)
Minmatar: Africans, Native Americans, maybe some of former USSR republics?
How do you think?
prymas82 1 year ago
@prymas82 caldari have little econmical freedom due to business dictatorship, head onto the eve site they make it pritty clear, caldari is the hardest to understand because its a mix a capitalism, socialism, and communism, yes hard to picture, captalist where the companies have form monoplies, socialist where all citizens must benifit somehow, communist due to strick working laws and forcing people to work. its explained on the site but its alittle hard to grasp
Miller3492 1 year ago
@prymas82 nahhh. USA is capitalist, but also democratic. China is a communist country with a mixed economy. The Caldari don't seem much like America. they're more like Russia, Japan, and Iran, due to huge militarism, massive empire building, and extreme nationalism. USA, however, is against both Fascists and communists. Second, fascism is not true capitalism, since it involves a free market economy under government control. Capitalism is free market without government control.
CoreyStudios2000 1 year ago
@CoreyStudios2000
What do you call health care? Insurance companies? Bail-outs? America is more tilted to the fascism than you think. Although obviously a far cry from the raw Caldari State.
A mere example: If you create a huge corporation in America, and then 40 years later it begins to collapse, the government would likely throw you tons of money to keep you going. The government thus directly intervenes with the market.
TheThunderhammer 1 year ago
@TheThunderhammer And what you mean by that is that some extreme nationalist party in the USA is gonna take over and remove capitalism with fascism once the nationalists ruin the economy.
CoreyStudios2000 1 year ago
Caldari = The future of our species.
TheThunderhammer 1 year ago
My life for the state !
Iwillgetyou2 1 year ago
its just a game guys..
....ROCKETS!!!
ramprire 1 year ago
For the caldari
Death to Galente
FloDerGrosse1 1 year ago
@FloDerGrosse1
What makes me sad about the majority of Caldari rolepplayers is the absurdly shallow understanding they have of their faction. There is so much more to being 'Caldari' than hating the Federation and making silly slogans like this, but the people who do don't seem to get over the fact that their 'being Caldari' revolves around constantly opposing another faction. Shame.
P.S: That's Gallente, not Galente - and there are other factions in their Federation too.
Terenin 1 year ago
@Terenin
And the Caldari are payed respect by warring corporations and those running the markets. Nice try and good day.
Razgriz515 1 year ago
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FloDerGrosse1 1 year ago
the revolution eats its children!
woodwyrm 1 year ago
!!!!!GALANTE!!!!!!
gamefreakoi 1 year ago
@gamefreakoi
Wrong. "Gallente".
Two L's.
Terenin 1 year ago
Caldari rules, I love the missiles
PotHeadBG 1 year ago 9
The Caldari are ruled by CCP in the background like all the other races.
089674532 2 years ago
Hmmm, well USA is a free country, but not too free. Caldari, however, are too lawful while space pirates are too free.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
you people think it is a centralized government under corporations but truth is it is not for it a decentralized government under the Senate and people. There are some corrupt people in America and the Senate but doesn't mean that corporations control it. It is mostly controlled by the senate, the president, and the people. So it is indeed a decentralized government.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
there is a difference between caldari and USA. When i live in my country, its quite peaceful and we are facing unemployment like other countries. a The difference is that it is not run by corporation, but by the states including texas. The states have their own set of runs and on 9/11, it was not our government. truth is we don't know who caused it really, except osama. The caldari however are ruled by corporation instead of its people and states.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
The Caldari are ruled by Tibus Heth.
acr08807 2 years ago
what is caldari are similar to the Soviet Union?
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
The Caldari are destine to rule New Eden!
Lootraevefan 2 years ago
@Lootraevefan
Not going ot happen for a few simple reasons, but I'd love ot hear your arguments for this claim.
IF you have any, that is.
Terenin 1 year ago
All you Caladri can go back to your corporate slave masters, unless your a true Caladri I mean by that homeless.
Security and Freedom FTW!
whydid666 2 years ago
We did go back. To Caldari Prime.
acr08807 2 years ago
Jovian is atlantian civilization in space:P
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
caldari ftw
dendugger 2 years ago 2
Maybe you should just realise that these Races are from the imagination, and not based off someting else?
Gallente = Gallente
Caldari = Caldari
Amarr = Amarr
Minmatar = Minmatar
Simple.
Quarolet 2 years ago
Caldari is more like.. .Cold War Russia...
foxbite 2 years ago
Were there lots of self-proclaimed capitalists in Cold War Russia?
Here's how I see it:
Caldari = a state so advanced that it's like has not yet been seen on Earth
Gallente = France. In 1939.
Amarr = Arab Caliphate
Minmatar = Planet of the Apes
Khanid = Arab Emirate, but with a proper appreciation for a great cup of tea
Sansha's Nation = defunct, but, even so, still a step above Minmatar civilization
acr08807 2 years ago 2
LONG LIVE THE STATE
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Uber capitalism wins!
TheJayhawk519 2 years ago
Caldari is hyper capitalist, the exact opposite of Cold War Russia....twat
TheJayhawk519 2 years ago
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Sharok480 2 years ago
Caldari ftw... Cerberus ftmfw
foxbite 2 years ago 4
caldari = asians / galente = fatmericans / minmatar = african shit / amar = eu ... thats how it looks in real world but anyway i like playind as caldari
Wargargble 2 years ago
Harsh mega corporate capitalism, questionable freedom, Slavery and semi-fanatic religiousness, the races of eve reminds me of America's bits and pieces.
adobo777 2 years ago 6
Caldari = Early america
Gallente = Europe
Amarr = Early Roman Empire
Minmatar - third world country's
that's my look on those for megapowers
(i am true Caldari)
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Caldari = National Socialist Germany/Japan
Gallente = Future America
Amarr = Arab Caliphate
Minmatar = Native Americans/Africans/Mayans/Aztecs
Mautiks 2 years ago 2
id say
Caldari = USSR
Gallente = Nato
Amarr = British Empire
Minmatar = China
thats just my opininon
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
In my opinion the Caldari can't be compaired to anything currently or previously in rule. It's a Capitalistic community, with personal gain and opportunity in focus.
As far as I know, the USSR stood for communism/socialism, which favour "equality" of everyone and no tolerance for anyone who thinks otherwise.
Caldari might even be far to the right-wing, close to Anarchy, with no real controlling power.
Catonzo 2 years ago
i dont compare caldari in that sense more in the style. united corparations with slavery in a sense military history and belife and a hatread of the gallente which the russians had for the americans.
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
Ah yes, in that case I can understand.
But even so, the Russians hated/disliked the Americans for reasons I have no idea of, probably way or life/government, while the Caldari hate the Gallente because of the Caldari/Gallente war.
I don't really know all the back story, but I think the Caldari lost their homeplanet to the Gallente some time ago, which is the source of their hatred.
Catonzo 2 years ago
yeah they caputurd cladari prime but was recaputured by tibesth heath while concord was offline.but the caldari dont like the gallente because they are stuck up in a way as they dont like closed societys that was part of the trouble with america and russia. also the caldari where allied with the galleantae but broke away due to diffrences in culture and society same with america and russia after ww2
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
*facepalm*
Russians hate the Americans because of the cold war.
adugan22 2 years ago 2
@adugan22
I never said that Russians don't hate Americans for reasons unknown to me, I said that, and I'll quote myself; "the Russians hated/disliked the Americans for reasons I have no idea of"
The keyword was "Hated", which is different from "Hate". What I perhaps failed to point out, was that I really meant that I had no clue why Americans and Russians hated eachother enough for the Cold War to even start out. Nor do I really care, it's all uninteresting history to me.
Catonzo 2 years ago
The Caldari's government is based Meritocracy which is a system of a government or other organization where in appointments are made and responsibilities assigned to individuals based upon demonstrated talent and ability (merit).[1] In a meritocracy, society rewards (via wealth, position, and social status) those who show talent and competence as demonstrated by past actions or by competition. Evaluation systems, such as formal education, are closely linked to notions of meritocracy.
photrick 2 years ago
how can the Caldari be equated with the USSR lol ? *facepalm*
ok let me have a go XD
id say
Caldari = USA + Israel [Starbucks lol]
Gallente = Peaceful Islamic Caliphate self defence :)
Amarr = White Christian Racists that used Christianity to colonise other countries and cultures ... e.g. The British Empire, Medieval European Countries ...
Minmatar = Any Tribal culture that rose up against their white slave masters [Haiti, Africans, Native American Indians, Maoris, Aboriginies ... and so on
Mohsin77 2 years ago
um ist exept for the fact that the caldari dictatrship is based in corparations there very similre seconed the gallente in the 1st war blockaded caldari prime and then invaded they are the ones who started the war the beguining the caldari just tryed to evacuate there people so peacful and self defence debatable
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
No Caldari first attacked Nuva Rubena
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
no the gallentae blockaded caldari prime so caldari terroists liveing on gallentae prime working on there own bombed Nuva Rubena and that lead to the full blown invasion of caldari prime
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
but why would Gallente first blockade Caldari prime? that would be an act of agression against the Caldari and the Gallente are peacefull
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
they found systems that wherenet known to them under caldari control. the extremist goverment at the time demanded theses systems be put under there control as the caldaris felt that there way of life was slowly being taken away the caldari refused so left the gallentae federation peacefully. but caldari prime is in the same system as gallentae prime so the gallentae where worried about another nation being in the same syatem so blockaded caldari prime which led to the war.
theworldisyettobe 2 years ago
no Caldari state announced there independence soon after the gallente states where established
and the extreme right wing gouverment of the Gallenteans took the power of the gallente federation AFTER the attack on Nuva Rubena
the gallenteans and Caldari never got on the same page cause Caldari where militairy and economic centred Caldari and Amarr could coöperate however cause they had the same Ideas
and Gallente made sure that the Minmatar could survive as a race and not get enslaved again
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
The Gallanteans? Peaceful? You've got to be kidding. They're a bunch of pirates who hide their piracies behind a facade of so-called civilization.
acr08807 2 years ago
well they call themself peacefull and a true democracy and all that stuff
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
True, they do say that about themselves. They're a bunch of liars. That's what happens when your society is built around mob rule.
acr08807 2 years ago
indeed, I fly true Caldari and dislike/hate Gallenteans for what they did to Caldari Prime
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Plus, they have no clue in the Federation how to make a good cup of tea.
acr08807 2 years ago
hahaha indeed.
LONG LIVE THE STATE
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
YOU RACIST!
gavinhas1 2 years ago
Better to be a racist than a Gallantean.
acr08807 2 years ago
HOHO!
gavinhas1 2 years ago
The Gallente was never peacefull. They were a democracy, treasuring the freedoms of man and woman.
It has never been said anywhere in lore that the Gallente were peacefull. If they were, it'd be a neutral NPC faction.
HawK047 2 years ago
small correction about the caldari, They have japanese blood lines and names so they (I think) have japanese culture in there as well.
To me Caldari are a mix of USA + JPN
Other than that your pretty much bang on. I should know that the ammar are like the Christian racist colonists, with medieval traits because I am British and I do know my country's history. And yes We did take slaves from tribal countries and put them to work in Jamaica.
eigokudemangaka 2 years ago
I'd say gallente is more of a future european asian and arab union that neglected race and culture and stand together
and Caldari future USA torn appart by civil war, Amarr is future Greece
Minmatar would be african country's like Congo, Etheopië and such
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Greece? Idk also i think the arab, or rather southern US states would be Ammar since both are obsessed with forming a religious state like Israel but with a notion of reclaiming the whole world for there god.
But then i rarely herd anything from Greece when did they go world domination through religion?
whydid666 2 years ago
well in the rise of the greek empire under the rule of alexander the great, relligion was a major part in warfare and civil matters, as like the early roman empire.
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Well religion was important to both Greeks and Romans but that was second to collecting tributes ($) both allowed barbaric religions to continue in conquered territories rather then facing revolting states, but yes did encourage there own in hopes of slowly assimilating them.
whydid666 2 years ago
so in that case they look like Amarr, with the minmatar wars
jaspertheking4life 2 years ago
Sorta but the Amarr motive was religion, but i guess you could make that similarity argument because both Amarr, Greek and Roman motive for conquest was for slaves the backbone of all three economies.
However the internal structure of the Greek and Roman is in sharp contrast of the Amarr with republic vs Monarchy, at lest for pre-Alexander and pre-Ceaser.
whydid666 2 years ago
Well thats pretty good one.
4life4win 2 years ago
I'd say it was something like this:
Caldari = America, China and Russia combined into one large capitalistic dictatorship.
Gallente = Democratic Central Europe combined with a small drop of Japan.
Amarr = the religious in general.
Minmatar = the jews.:D (No offence, cant you take a joke?!)
Safe to say, the other countries werent rich enough to travel through the EVE gate and are currently taking over the milky way with torches and pitchforks while the rest of us are gone.
HawK047 2 years ago
@HawK047 Actually, its like this
Caldari= a capitalist Soviet Union and Nazi Germany
Gallente= France, USA, Britain, India, Sweden, Norway, and Spain
Amarr= Roman Empire
Minmatar= Third world countries
And the non-playable faction the Jovians i believe resemble North Korea.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
First, the USA doesnt deserve a place in the Gallente, because the USA are capitalistic scum.
Also, its sad to see everybody just needs to tie some country around the EVE factions.
All we know is that the Gallente are European and Asian bloodlines.
HawK047 2 years ago
@HawK047 have you ever heard of liberal capitalism?
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
Liberalism might let you think about the word "liberty", but too much freedom wont make the world a better place.
Socialism is also needed if you want a fair and free society. For instance I think taking away some freedoms could make someone more free. Like a weapon law, making it illegal just to buy weapons off the street.
HawK047 2 years ago
@HawK047 and second, do you think that communism is a better choice? actually, communism never works because of discrimination of religion, cause of poverty, and killing of minorities.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
I dont think either works. Thats the problem of todays world.
HawK047 2 years ago
I dunno man, Caldari are like the Japanese and Romans mixed together on crack. The USA most resembles Gallente hands down. The Eu is equally comparable.
Ortolanus 2 years ago
@Ortolanus yeah that's what I thought. USA and EU do resemble Gallente and romans and japanese resemble Caldari.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
But then again, this phobia of the nordic countries of EU for capitalism is kinda funny. "...and its hyper-capitalistic..." - to be honest Caldari seems to me more a place in which the economy is controlled by the state and the state is controlled by a few corps, which is the perfect academic definition of "mercantilism" NOT the definition of "capitalism". Mercantilism is in fact a degeneration of capitalism back towards a socialist idea of economy, so no free market, but the illusion of it
MarcoSuperBollo 2 years ago
...in Mercantilism a few top corps create trusts and monopolies and impede import of goods that damage them and last but not least they always cause the small companies to never emerge. Like a big tree in the forest does with the small ones below it. South America is the perfect example of Mercantilism. Caldari resembles a bit this, but again.... CCP manages the market to be open. Kind of weird. In a real world there would be import taxes.
MarcoSuperBollo 2 years ago
with a hint of fascist/state capitalist use of language among the Caldari, just read the description for their titan^^
woodwyrm 2 years ago
best description imo had it as my bio for ages :D
pie666753 2 years ago
@woodwyrm well you're right, but most fascist states are against liberalism, capitalism, and communism. I'm honest enough to know that Fascism is not capitalism, just similar, but more dictatorial. What makes a Capitalist state is a Middle Class. But not all social branches are meant to degrade men. There is good capitalism and bad capitalism.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
@CoreyStudios2000 capitalism and fascism arent even in the same catagory, one is a econmic system the other is a goverment system, capitalism is just no restrictions on economy and citizens and companies run it. fascism is extream nationalism, u can have a fascist capitalist country
Miller3492 1 year ago
@Miller3492
Actually, by definition 'fascism' encompasses both economic and political systems, combining a single-party rule (can be any number of takes on totalitarianism) along with heavy corporatism focused on nationalistic goals. Think of it as capitalistic totalitarianism.
Also, I'd like to point out to a lot of people on here:
Democracy, Totalitarianism, etc = Political systems
Capitalism, Communism, etc = Economic systems (Yes, you can have democratic communism)
Zealot1011 1 year ago 38
@Zealot1011
That was one of the most insightful little tidbits I've seen on youtube. Thanks for that.
burnzorz 1 year ago
@Zealot1011 Communism is a type of government not an econmic system, socialism is the economic system which operates under communist governments. Also fascism is when a central body places strict socio/economic controls over it's population. Implied aspects also say fascism is when a democracy sets up a dictatorship (we don't call monarchies fascist and you can't have political parties unless there are some democratic institutions). There's no other requirement in economics, just strict regs
TicTocKnight 1 year ago
@Zealot1011
Those are indeed worthy points to make, and I'm glad to see your comment as the highest rated. I honestly think that economics should be taught at High School level education, as it is the core of our civilization and every Human deserves to know these things. Though I unfortunately suppose that would be too dangerous to particular interests, no?
TheDrunkenSwede 1 year ago
@Zealot1011 Fascism still requires state control of the economy. Nominal private ownership doesn't mean much when the state still controls everything. Gallente are more Capitalistic in a true sense than Caldari. Caldari have a caste system and no actual economic freedoms. Calling them Capitalistic is just plain inaccurate. Corporatist, Mercantilist, etc, yes, but not Capitalist.
worldofdraculas 7 months ago
@worldofdraculas Not really, their system is completely different in that the corporations ARE the government. Its the difference between government owning corporations, and the corporations owning the government.
MasterlyApprentice 4 months ago
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@Zealot1011 Excuse me, but You have absolutely no fucking idea what You are talking about.
nogoodusernamesleft1 4 months ago
@HawK047 the USA hardly resembles Cadari and are more similar to Gallente due to the country to be full of almost all ethnic groups and that the USA has given each state the right to have their own laws. USA is a decentralized government.
CoreyStudios2000 2 years ago
The USA resembles the Caldari in every way in terms of character looks and over the cop capitalism. Plus they want to rule entire New Eden.
Not saying it is the USA though. Else CCP would have just called it the USA.
HawK047 2 years ago
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Ortolanus 2 years ago
I don't see where Islamic comes into Gellente, they are more influenced from Greek culture and descended from French ideals of liberty and democracy.
Also since Islam want to create it's own religious state and dominate the world they kinda get lobbed with the Christ fundies of Ammar.
whydid666 2 years ago
@Mautiks caldari isnt socialist, they are capatlist dominated by the big companies, the goverment wishes to move it back to a communist type society where people are given stick jobs but the ones who work hard are treated the best, gallente is a socialist federatiion. other 2 i agree on
Miller3492 1 year ago
@Mautiks Gallente speaks about social liberties. The USA was never social nor socialist.
HawK047 1 year ago
more like Minmatar=USA
massiveheat 2 years ago
Caldari = USA
pjce3 2 years ago
Actually they more resemble postwar Japan, I seem to remember seeing somewhere. I could be wrong.
Qualanx 2 years ago
i hate caldari..
nightlyfae 2 years ago
and we hate you
GodEmperorDano 2 years ago
dont know about you but i tried all 4 on my trial, and i personally think caldari is the best. my opinion
invalide014 2 years ago 3
lol arguments over poorly executed fictional governments
its a game not star wars or star trek we dont need to argue over nothing
GizmoGardenia 2 years ago 4
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Ortolanus 2 years ago
lol Torps > Blasters in today's gank squads.
adobo777 2 years ago
Since I have shitty Torp skills, but awesome Blaster skills: Blasters FTW.
Helge129 2 years ago
High fives for Caldari!!
KamikazeGruntStudios 2 years ago 3
*fives Kami* Caldari State ftw!!! :D
ODSTRaven 2 years ago
So of the factions, is Caldari the strongest one?
cool70200 2 years ago
No, Amarr is.
Blnukem92 2 years ago
people would argue no, there all = , but caldari have won faction warfare before anyone else did.
SmashSmashKillKill 2 years ago
It is the supposed strongest military faction, but mind that every faction in EvE has its weak and strong points.
Who has the best tools is completely under how efficiently you (the player) uses them
So yes, and no. Some say that they have the best electronic warfare gear and I tend to agree, but the other three factions also have something that can give them an edge.
But mind that Caldari is a military nation. It could be that they are the strongest...
In EvE, everything is possible...
Elmithian 2 years ago
At this time, the caldari had to give up her home planet.
Today the "State Protectorate" a militias corp conquered all the Factional Warfare Complexes from the Gallente.
Storywise, all races have their good and bad thinks, the caldarians are strong nationalistic, capitalistic etc....
GaiusOctavianius 2 years ago
In the past the Caldari lived in the Federation, but were colonies from the Caldari, which were kept secret before the Gallentern, which became the cause of the tensions between Caldari and Gallentern, which led to the replacement of the federation and in the long run to the war between the peoples.
In this war the Gallente kill many caldarians, when they conquered Caldari Prime, because Caldari Prime is in the same solarsystem with Gallente Prime.
GaiusOctavianius 2 years ago
That's it? No backstory? No informational quip? Out of the four race intros, this is the worst.
Jorgon01 2 years ago
hmm well my main character is minmatar and out of all my other characters ive never been caldari for the 9 months i have been playing EVE.
weefrasey1 2 years ago
So, what are the good things about the Caldari?
JinRenegade 2 years ago
Most of the ships are shield tanks, the main focus is missile combat. Great support ships and pretty well rounded combat.
zarrotechgeek 2 years ago
No I mean storywise. What are the good things about them?
JinRenegade 2 years ago
Story wise I would recommend that you read Gallente-Caldari War: The early days, The Breakout & The War Drones On. This stuff is on the EVE site. Gives some good history on the Caldari.
ODSTRaven 2 years ago
Gallente Prime and Caldari Prime both reside in the same system and both peoples had knew about each other for a long time. The Caldari where initially part of the Federation but