what the hell, man... i know that this was 4 months ago, but youtube comments continue to disappoint me.
are you actually seriously saying that? If you can't understand the beautiful logic and perfect fit (NOT MENTIONING THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE SUCH AS REAL TIME WITNESSING OF IT!!!!!!!!!) of the evolution theory i won't even bother to start a discussion about the ridiculousness of what you said 4 months ago.
I hope that by now you have learned the ways of logic and reasoning
How about you do an argument of Newton vs. Einstein instead of King idiot Kirk Cameron vs Einstein. Newton may have been our planet's most brilliant, accomplished scientist ever (possibly behind Einstein) and he was as faithful a Christian as they come. MAYBE, just MAYBE you're wrong about faith being some kind of a hindrance to science. Actually, you're definitely wrong.
my Bibles say the earth is round, where does yous say it flat? Please inform us all of the name of the man and the date evolution was proven? A lot of the Bible has been supported by archaeology,not so with the cat. What indication is there that God didn't cause the big bang? Reverse engineering nature doesn't have any connection to the question of God, so knowing or not doesn't indicate there is no God. No buts I thought one made this vid.
God didn't say the world was flat. We said it was flat. As in we did not understand everything, as we still don't. Darwinian evolution does have alot of gaps, and that is why we should be working to fill those instead of putting up a wall against it.
Point is, these guys won't understand that the statement "Darwinian evolution does have a lot of gaps", albeit true, doesn't immediately amount to pointing towards a creator. That's a false dichotomy that there can be only two options, and they'll continue to engage in it. It's pointless debating with the cre-tards.
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)" This would suggest a flat earth. Also, "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)" . So god does say the earth is flat. That is if the bible is the "word of god".
Respect to the logic. Also the bible says he placed the earth to seperate the seas. I would say god accidently thought the world was flat at one time. lol.
@Nemisis906 Most xtians say the bible is the inerrant word of god or at least divinely inspired.If it's inerrant and it says the Earth is flat then that's what it means. You can't just cherry pick bits which support your views.
Fine then where did god come from? obviously something had to create him. Or did he just exist? Is it not just as possible that an atom existed then it is that a god existed. At least we have proof that atoms exist today. And your also assuming that god is a creator? maybe he is a creation. Don't act like you know everything because you don't. Neither do I. But I am willing to not be so ignorant as to learn how it could have happened.
umm the big bang says nothing about nothing. it simply states that all the matter in the universe was once condensed to a singularity and then began to expand.
there is nothing about creation ex nihilo in there.
no there most definitely is ex nihilo. there was a beginning point. therefore there was nothing and then there was something. scientist from both theist and non theist have came to this conclusion. then there was a period of singularities when laws of physics and laws of quantum mechanics didnt even exist. time was established. different dimensions were present. God was creating the universe, time, structure, and cycles for all life to exist and for us to have the ability to understand it.
show me evidence and then show me a single scientist that says it was creation ex nihilo.... you misunderstand the big bang.
matter has always existed sorry if you can't comprehend but i can , you not being able to and saying that is why it is false is an argument from ignorance.
We dont yet know if matter allways existed we know that time had a begining so anything before the big bang for the moment is not important and probably imposible to know what state matter was in befor time if there. We shouldent except that matter always exised nor energy mayby and infinit conversion
what is there to miss understand? the entire universe was condensed to a small atom that split and created an explosion that stated the universe. so how did that atom get there and what caused the split?
sorry that you cant comprehend simple theories. i can. :)
dont be so arrogant and ignorant with your statements little buddy.
Is it not easier to believe that an atom just existed, as opposed to a being, capable of thinking on higher levels, and creating space and time. Atoms could have just as easily existed, as god could have. Nobody can prove this either way so how in the world can you sell certainty.
@7chris77 If "god" was "nothing" then She wouldn't exist.If She was "something" then She must have been created from "something". What was the "something" and what created "god" from it.
How did god create something from nothing if it is impossible? Both theories, mine and your support the fact that something was created from nothing. So that is not the debate. We should be trying to find out logically, how something was created from nothing. And by saying "god did it" to everything. We are never going to learn. God once made the world flat. It took people to question that to realize that it wasn't. Think of where our questions will take us in the future.
Actually the big bang theory states nothing about creation ex nihilo unlike the whole god baloney. the big bang simply states that all matter was once condensed to a singularity then expanded.
Well yes, but you kind of have to teach these people one thing at a time. I am just showing him how his assumptions are questionable, let alone the fact that he doesn't even understand the big bang theory. But for the time being I was just going to let him be.
both of those statements root from catholicism. i have put much thought into both theories for years now.
evolution specially darwinian evolution just has to many gaps and unexplainable premises for me.
the fact of the matter is though im not goin to be able to convert u on youtube to anything and your not goin to convert me man. if we had the personal discussion in person would indeed be more plausible.
There lies the weaknesss of positivists and professional atheists who are elated because they feel that they have not only successfully rid the world of gods but "bared the miracles." (That is, explained the miracles. - ed.) Oddly enough, we must be satisfied to acknowledge the "miracle" without there being any legitimate way for us to approach it . I am forced to add that just to keep you from thinking that --weakened by age--I have fallen prey to the clergy -Albert Einstein
Einstein believed in God--he certainly would have (and did) affirm Him as the uncaused cause of the universe. He was not the atheist intellectual (oxymoron) you so which him to be. No, the only intellectual you have, now that Hume has been demolished and A. Flu has converted is F. Nietzsche.. and he went mad on his death bed and signed his name "The Crucified One"... lol you've got nothing buddy, nothing.
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
-- Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press
"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages.The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God" Albert Einstein in Glimpses of the Great (1930)
einstien was what we call nowadays, religious in the "einstienian" sense, einstienian religion
it's more a type of almost spiritual perspective of the universe, einstien often used the word god, but he meant it only as those things unknown to us
i think it was probably a mistake for him to use that word, as the religious would be extremely eager to claim such a great thinker as one of their own
of course, even if he did believe in a personal god, that'd be an argument from authority
Sounds a lot more more deist than agnostic. Attitudes toward religion, however, are not reflective of belief or disbelief in God. Many, many people dislike modern religions but have deeply held beliefs in God. The two are not tied together. Also, many Christians see heaven and hell as a metaphor for the greatest possible opportunity (being close to God) and the greatest missed opportunity (choosing evil instead). I really don't think you can get agnostic out of the comments you posted.
it depends what you consider "God" what einstien was defining as god, doesn't necessarily have to be called that, he used it as a metaphor, as i said for those things that were mysterious and unknown
i agree, based on just that single quote i gave as an example, however if you search some more of einsiten quotes it'll give you a greater insight into what he may of believed
he was definitely quite misleading when he used the word "god"
agnosticism means not to be certain about the existence of god, einstien used god as a metaphor for those things that are unknown, for the mysterious ( a word he used frequently )
he wasn't referring to the traditional definition of a "God"
he was very clearly undecided on the subject, he once said if any religion were to be correct it would be budhism, which of course is a atheistic religion. but at the same time he used the word "god" often, but then at later points made it clear he didn't mean a personal god, and occasionally defined god as a metaphor for the unknown
he seems like an atheist, deist or agnostic
for such a smart man he was pretty scatter brained, not that there's anything wrong with that, i'm like that myself
@projectlevydelta
It's not entitled "the wormhole" its entitles "into the wormhole" andit doesn't talk about wormholes.
It's a documentary series, like the documentaries on TV. If you want to learn that kind of stuff get a PhD in microbiology and figure your yourself.
lambsio 6 months ago
@projectlevydelta
Into The Wormhole. with Morgan Freeman.
Awesome documentary series. check them out.
lambsio 6 months ago
@projectlevydelta
what the hell, man... i know that this was 4 months ago, but youtube comments continue to disappoint me.
are you actually seriously saying that? If you can't understand the beautiful logic and perfect fit (NOT MENTIONING THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE SUCH AS REAL TIME WITNESSING OF IT!!!!!!!!!) of the evolution theory i won't even bother to start a discussion about the ridiculousness of what you said 4 months ago.
I hope that by now you have learned the ways of logic and reasoning
lambsio 6 months ago
How about you do an argument of Newton vs. Einstein instead of King idiot Kirk Cameron vs Einstein. Newton may have been our planet's most brilliant, accomplished scientist ever (possibly behind Einstein) and he was as faithful a Christian as they come. MAYBE, just MAYBE you're wrong about faith being some kind of a hindrance to science. Actually, you're definitely wrong.
tpstrat14 8 months ago
my Bibles say the earth is round, where does yous say it flat? Please inform us all of the name of the man and the date evolution was proven? A lot of the Bible has been supported by archaeology,not so with the cat. What indication is there that God didn't cause the big bang? Reverse engineering nature doesn't have any connection to the question of God, so knowing or not doesn't indicate there is no God. No buts I thought one made this vid.
daddyg321 1 year ago
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DoMe8778 2 years ago
This is hilarious! "but moms a schitzofranic!" "exactly.."
if not somewhat innaccurate, i didnt know einstein would be so lenient with a kid like kirk cameron
MiKeOwNzUrFaCeZ 2 years ago
You did a great job of illustrating this point that I wish more theists could grasp onto.
Mikeoo17 2 years ago
God didn't say the world was flat. We said it was flat. As in we did not understand everything, as we still don't. Darwinian evolution does have alot of gaps, and that is why we should be working to fill those instead of putting up a wall against it.
Nemisis906 2 years ago
Point is, these guys won't understand that the statement "Darwinian evolution does have a lot of gaps", albeit true, doesn't immediately amount to pointing towards a creator. That's a false dichotomy that there can be only two options, and they'll continue to engage in it. It's pointless debating with the cre-tards.
SYLFan2008 2 years ago
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)" This would suggest a flat earth. Also, "He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)" . So god does say the earth is flat. That is if the bible is the "word of god".
zebulonthered 2 years ago
Respect to the logic. Also the bible says he placed the earth to seperate the seas. I would say god accidently thought the world was flat at one time. lol.
Nemisis906 2 years ago
@Nemisis906 Most xtians say the bible is the inerrant word of god or at least divinely inspired.If it's inerrant and it says the Earth is flat then that's what it means. You can't just cherry pick bits which support your views.
lewisner 1 year ago
Fine then where did god come from? obviously something had to create him. Or did he just exist? Is it not just as possible that an atom existed then it is that a god existed. At least we have proof that atoms exist today. And your also assuming that god is a creator? maybe he is a creation. Don't act like you know everything because you don't. Neither do I. But I am willing to not be so ignorant as to learn how it could have happened.
Nemisis906 2 years ago
how did the atom in the big bang get there? how do you create something from nothing?
7chris77 2 years ago
umm the big bang says nothing about nothing. it simply states that all the matter in the universe was once condensed to a singularity and then began to expand.
there is nothing about creation ex nihilo in there.
justinatorator 2 years ago
no there most definitely is ex nihilo. there was a beginning point. therefore there was nothing and then there was something. scientist from both theist and non theist have came to this conclusion. then there was a period of singularities when laws of physics and laws of quantum mechanics didnt even exist. time was established. different dimensions were present. God was creating the universe, time, structure, and cycles for all life to exist and for us to have the ability to understand it.
7chris77 2 years ago
show me evidence and then show me a single scientist that says it was creation ex nihilo.... you misunderstand the big bang.
matter has always existed sorry if you can't comprehend but i can , you not being able to and saying that is why it is false is an argument from ignorance.
justinatorator 2 years ago
We dont yet know if matter allways existed we know that time had a begining so anything before the big bang for the moment is not important and probably imposible to know what state matter was in befor time if there. We shouldent except that matter always exised nor energy mayby and infinit conversion
Chill197 2 years ago
what is there to miss understand? the entire universe was condensed to a small atom that split and created an explosion that stated the universe. so how did that atom get there and what caused the split?
sorry that you cant comprehend simple theories. i can. :)
dont be so arrogant and ignorant with your statements little buddy.
7chris77 2 years ago
Is it not easier to believe that an atom just existed, as opposed to a being, capable of thinking on higher levels, and creating space and time. Atoms could have just as easily existed, as god could have. Nobody can prove this either way so how in the world can you sell certainty.
Nemisis906 2 years ago
how is it more logical to believe that something came from nothing? to have something (creation) you have to have a builder (creator).
7chris77 2 years ago
@7chris77 If "god" was "nothing" then She wouldn't exist.If She was "something" then She must have been created from "something". What was the "something" and what created "god" from it.
lewisner 1 year ago
"how do you create something from nothing?" We dont know good question lets try and find out
Chill197 2 years ago
How did god create something from nothing if it is impossible? Both theories, mine and your support the fact that something was created from nothing. So that is not the debate. We should be trying to find out logically, how something was created from nothing. And by saying "god did it" to everything. We are never going to learn. God once made the world flat. It took people to question that to realize that it wasn't. Think of where our questions will take us in the future.
Nemisis906 2 years ago
Actually the big bang theory states nothing about creation ex nihilo unlike the whole god baloney. the big bang simply states that all matter was once condensed to a singularity then expanded.
justinatorator 2 years ago
Well yes, but you kind of have to teach these people one thing at a time. I am just showing him how his assumptions are questionable, let alone the fact that he doesn't even understand the big bang theory. But for the time being I was just going to let him be.
Nemisis906 2 years ago
When did God ever say the world was flat??
and say that it was 6,000 years old?
both of those statements root from catholicism. i have put much thought into both theories for years now.
evolution specially darwinian evolution just has to many gaps and unexplainable premises for me.
the fact of the matter is though im not goin to be able to convert u on youtube to anything and your not goin to convert me man. if we had the personal discussion in person would indeed be more plausible.
7chris77 2 years ago
lol, the atom in the big bang
Pelonetillo 1 year ago
lol
good video dude
this is just how i feel.
5/5
ShadySk8rboy 3 years ago
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There lies the weaknesss of positivists and professional atheists who are elated because they feel that they have not only successfully rid the world of gods but "bared the miracles." (That is, explained the miracles. - ed.) Oddly enough, we must be satisfied to acknowledge the "miracle" without there being any legitimate way for us to approach it . I am forced to add that just to keep you from thinking that --weakened by age--I have fallen prey to the clergy -Albert Einstein
ogirv101 3 years ago
I'm sorry this is just superflous on many levels.
Einstein believed in God--he certainly would have (and did) affirm Him as the uncaused cause of the universe. He was not the atheist intellectual (oxymoron) you so which him to be. No, the only intellectual you have, now that Hume has been demolished and A. Flu has converted is F. Nietzsche.. and he went mad on his death bed and signed his name "The Crucified One"... lol you've got nothing buddy, nothing.
Theologica37 3 years ago
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.
-- Albert Einstein, 1954, from Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas and Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University Press
justinatorator 3 years ago
he believed god was nature.
he did not believe it had an intelligence.
justinatorator 3 years ago
Wait, have you ever noticed that Kirk Cameron looks like Venomfangx?
nocturnuskey02 3 years ago
yes i noticed ver much so when morphing his face
see i think creationists are made like in the alien movie kirk cameron put his eggs in someone and venomfangx popped out of their chest
justinatorator 3 years ago
That's the most likely explanation here. Kirk Cameron must be stopped.
nocturnuskey02 3 years ago
LOL nicely done. Kirk Cameron is a twat
nocturnuskey02 3 years ago
"I'm not an atheist and I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many different languages.The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God" Albert Einstein in Glimpses of the Great (1930)
BattleshipTx 3 years ago
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being
systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but
have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the
unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
~ Albert Einstein, 1954, from "Albert Einstein: The Human Side", edited by Helen Dukas and
Banesh Hoffman, Princeton University
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
einstien was what we call nowadays, religious in the "einstienian" sense, einstienian religion
it's more a type of almost spiritual perspective of the universe, einstien often used the word god, but he meant it only as those things unknown to us
i think it was probably a mistake for him to use that word, as the religious would be extremely eager to claim such a great thinker as one of their own
of course, even if he did believe in a personal god, that'd be an argument from authority
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose
purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human
frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble
souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms." ~Albert Einstein, obituary in New York Times, 19 April 1955
sounds like a deist, or agnostic to me, very clearly not a advocate of any modern religions
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
Sounds a lot more more deist than agnostic. Attitudes toward religion, however, are not reflective of belief or disbelief in God. Many, many people dislike modern religions but have deeply held beliefs in God. The two are not tied together. Also, many Christians see heaven and hell as a metaphor for the greatest possible opportunity (being close to God) and the greatest missed opportunity (choosing evil instead). I really don't think you can get agnostic out of the comments you posted.
BattleshipTx 3 years ago
he did indeed say he did not believe in a personal god
and went on to say he had never hid the fact but outwardly exposed it
justinatorator 3 years ago
Which sounds Deist, not at all agnostic.
BattleshipTx 3 years ago
it depends what you consider "God" what einstien was defining as god, doesn't necessarily have to be called that, he used it as a metaphor, as i said for those things that were mysterious and unknown
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
i agree, based on just that single quote i gave as an example, however if you search some more of einsiten quotes it'll give you a greater insight into what he may of believed
he was definitely quite misleading when he used the word "god"
agnosticism means not to be certain about the existence of god, einstien used god as a metaphor for those things that are unknown, for the mysterious ( a word he used frequently )
he wasn't referring to the traditional definition of a "God"
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
i did also mention einstienian religion, you can look this up on wikipedia probably, i'm too lazy atm to do it myself
basically it's a kind of scientific spiritualism ( another ill defined word that might cause some confusion )
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
he was very clearly undecided on the subject, he once said if any religion were to be correct it would be budhism, which of course is a atheistic religion. but at the same time he used the word "god" often, but then at later points made it clear he didn't mean a personal god, and occasionally defined god as a metaphor for the unknown
he seems like an atheist, deist or agnostic
for such a smart man he was pretty scatter brained, not that there's anything wrong with that, i'm like that myself
IzzyBunneh 3 years ago
Nice work!
Certain parts were damn funny.
IllPropaganda 3 years ago