Tony Benn - US election, Economic crisis and the war | London | Nov 3 2008

[ianmcgeachy]

The most powerful political mind around, and willing to speak it. In my view also the best Prime minister the UK never had. A man too honest & too forthright compared to the career politicians allowed to take over the parties, of both sides. His prediction of the problems arising in the worlds 'gamblers anonymous' oriented economic system have proved spot on. If only there were more so called 'leaders' with this amount of integrity, intellect, humanity and guts to speak out.

[RicoRichmond]

A general note to all comers - '... if your not a socialist you don't understand what's going in the world...' arrogance, no? Given what he's saying, in effect 'agree with me, of you don't know what's going on in the world' it would seem to me not a controversial issue - yes. However if anyone wants to take issue with me, please say something involving facts, logic or reason, if you want me or anybody else to take you seariously.

[RicoRichmond]

@RicoRichmond Unlike 'heightsgreen', the pompous clown, and 'bapyou' the (self identified) vicious fool.

[RicoRichmond]

"...if your not a socialist you don't understand what's going on in the world..." - What an incredibly arrogant man.

[RicoRichmond]

The point is worth repeating '...if your not a socialist you don't understand what's going on in the world...', what an incredibly arrogant man.

[heightsgreen]

To those who think he is an incredibly arrogant man--what the hell have they done compared to this guy? Certainly not served constituents or the Parliamentary system with dedication and honesty for50 years. And if they want proof of Benn's record go look it up.

[RicoRichmond]

@heightsgreen Looked it up - my conclusions - an slippery oppertunist with ignorant supporters.

[viennabandd]

A Hero. A man of integrity. irra

[RicoRichmond]

'...if your not a socialist you don't understand what's going on in the world...', what an incredibly arrogant man.

[heightsgreen]

@RicoRichmond - Not an incredibly arrogant man--but one who knows what he is talking about through real life experience.

[RicoRichmond]

@heightsgreen Evidence?

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond "what an incredibly arrogant man."

As an American who discovered Mr. Benn through You Tube I can only say that my own country could use someone with his brand of "arrogance."

Care to witness true, bald, unashamed, naked arrogance? Have a look at some of the so-called conservative types here in the States: greedy, venal, & apparently proud of possessing these qualities. They are people who proclaim loudly to their constituents that the public is a "special interest group."

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou Point 1, if you want Tony Benn, please take him away from us. Point 2, if you want other people to take you seariously, don't launch vicious attacks on them without a shread of evidence.

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Vicious attack? You want a vicious attack I'll give you one. My comment was relatively civil.

I suppose you are one of these whores who agress with your fellow conservative whores everywhere that the members of the general public constitute a "special interest group," which is the message American corporate whores are disseminating via the corporate-controlled media.

Now: Get back to doing what whores do best.

Cheers.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou I'll repeat my previous point - it you want other people to take you seariously present facts and logic, if you want to make a fool out of yourself by trolling, name calling and vicious attacks.

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Oh shut up, you stupid foolish ass.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou I'm going to repeat my point again, if you want other people to take you seariously you should present facts and logic to support your point of view, if you to make a fool out of yourself you should just use personal attacks - given that you'v done nothing but, might I conclude from this that you consent to being known as a fool?

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Shut up, you stupid silly fool. You're a whore for profit. You dictate nothing to me. You do not define my behavior, you are a whore for profit.

Go suck a cock, whore. It's what you do best, whore. Be the whore for profit you are. And be proud of being a whore for profit. Whore. Suck me whore! Suck me good, whore! You're a talented whore sucker! Good good mmm-mmm good!

Suck a conservative cock for the Queen, you little bitch whore dog. Eat my cum, you whore bunny. Lick it!

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou LOL! Listen to your self, ' I said (several times) 'if you want to be taken seariously use facts and logic, if you want to make a full out of yourself, resort to vivious attacks'. Since them all you have done is launch vicious attacks - am I to take ot that you consent to being known as a fool? I'm not trying to be define your behaviour, all I'm doing is asking a question.

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Your mother was a whore. Your father was a male escort in a gay brothel. Your sister was a whore for your mother's pimp. Your father employed your sister to fuck your dog on the carpet. Your mother filmed the act and sold copies for a sou on the cay in Britanny. (Free blow jobs around the booth in back!)

Eat Tory cock. You're a very talented Tory cocksucker. Margaret Thatcher enjoyed it when you sucked her cock.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! So then yes? Vicious attacks = Foolishness, you make vicious attacks, therefor you are a fool - No? Because right now you seem to be saying yes - over and over and over again.

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Eat Tory cock, cockeater. You're a very talented Tory cockeater. Margaret Thatcher enjoyed it when you ate her cock. She swooned with pleasure when presented with the reality of your cock-eating talents.

Fascism. It's what's for dinner. Eat it up.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou Vicious Attacks = Foolishness - You make vivious attacks = ergo you are a fool. No?

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Just as personal violence is never equatable with state-funded and sanctioned violence, no comment written on a You Tube video is equal to or is as vicious as conservative policy is to working people everywhere.

Understand me whore?

Now: Piss off, and suck the dead cock of Margaret Thatcher, whore.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou In answer to your last paragraph - is the answer to my queary yes then? You are a fool?

On the subject of your fist paragraph, I'v never said that your comments are more or less vicious than anything else, simply that they are vivious and that this is very foolish of you.

Please explain how conservative policies are vivious to working class people everywhere.

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond "Please explain how conservative policies are vivious to working class people everywhere."

Please explain why I need to explain the obvious. Are you that thick? No explanation is necessary. Get out of your house & away from the computer.

Seen Detroit? South Central Los Angeles? The Bronx? The slums of Mexico City, Rio de Janiero, Santiago, Chile? This is what capitalism has wrought. You are a whore for profit. I am your enemy.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou 'Please explain why I need to explain the obvious' It's not obvious to me, because most if not all of the cities and the countries have Left / Liberal / Progressive / Socialist governments. No?

'Are you that thick?' Are you Foolish?

'You are a whore for profit.' How am I a whore for Profit?

'I am your enemy.' Why am I your enemy?

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou '...my own country could use someone with his brand of arrogance' - So you are agreeing with we he's arrogant, no?

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond Rico, Rico, Rico. My liitle bitch fan boy. I did not write "my own country could use someone with his brand of arrogance' "

What I wrote, my little bitch fan boy, was this:

"my own country could use someone with his brand of "arrogance." "

Educated people, Rico, people who read, Rico, understand that, in this context, the use of quotation marks denotes an opposite meaning for the quoted word.

Cheers, Rico. Send me some more of your love notes. I miss you.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou I asked you what you meant by it on the stream, you did not respond, implying that you agree with me. If that wasn't what you meant then why didn't you calrify it at the time?

Nonwithstanding, if that's not what you meant, what did you mean? Tony Benn has described Mao as the greatest man of the 20th century. Mao killed, at least, 40 million people. Do you want 40 million of your own people wiped out, is that what you meant by saying you wanted some of Mr Benn's arrogance?

[bapyou]

@RicoRichmond "Mao killed, at least, 40 million people."

In its effort to implant the fear of communism in the western world, the right wing have thrown around numbers for decades. It is one means capitalists use to retain power. (I've read right-wing sourced figures up to 200 million.)

The truth is many more Chinese starved to death before Mao. After the Great Leap Forward, far fewer died.

Anyway, China's case is not comparable with developed countries. They are different entities.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou Part 1: So exactly how many people did he kill? I used the 40 million because it was a very conservaive figure.

I think it's telling that you'v gone from defending Mr Benn to apologising a scoundrel like Mr Benn to apologising for a mass murderer like Chairman Mao. You don't neen to compare Mao's China with anywhere out of China - you just need to compare it with Pre Mao China. There may have been ocasional food shortages in pre Mao China, but not the systematic killing of Mao China.

[RicoRichmond]

@bapyou Part 2: In actual Mao China there was a systematic, Neo (or maybe even classical) Malthusian kill off, the reason being Mao thought China had to many Chinese people in it (I happen to think this is the most likely reason for Anthony *Wedgewood* Benn judging him the greatest man of the 20th century). This isn't really a controversial point, it is mainline, mainstream history. If you want to challenge it, then go right ahead, but you should probably bring some sources along.

[rumble58]

The only politician that gives me hope.

Tony Benn.

[viennabandd]

The U.K's only true M.P today. Integrity, can be seen in this and other video's. Expand your mind and listen to every word.Rgrds

[terrorbean100]

Truly a Prophet of the modern age.

[Drumstoo]

Who in British politics is going to follow him?  I despair.

[screenplay777]

A great man.

[andyc114]

love this guy

[theact3k3]

he does make some very good points.

[fpscockyboi]

@theact3k3

and he's right in every single one of them. He's what the bbc and itv and sky don't want you to hear

[sanbeejeev]

In 14 minutes Tony Benn provides the analysis and arguments we need to create a better world. Brilliant!