"Civility:" Occupy Wall Street Thug Threatens to Stab Local Fox Reporter

[varnlestoff]

Watched video, quality is crap, looks faked.

[Dt0x75]

Have fun in Rikers....I hope you threaten to stab one of them in the throat with a pen and watch what happens to you. =-)

[vamoalla9]

Do you think the price of goods and services have only 4.6 pct since 1975?

[vamoalla9]

The "reporter" states the guy is not making sense and is incoherent....

Ok...so you got threatened by someone who you yourself judge to be a nutbag. He's a NUTBAG! If you're really a reporter, go find someone who can articulate a point, AND REPORT THAT.

But nah....of course not. You represent FOX who thinks that some fruit loop who threatens to stab you with a pen is news. Do you also believe that, as he states, that he has an upcoming meeting with Michael Bloomberg?

[Barry62152]

Fuck the occupy wall street assholes. They should learn that capitalism works. That's why I support the Tea Party Movement.

[MrBkerth]

@Barry62152 The tea party movement originally was about taking money out of politics just like a lot of the people in occupy. That one guy should not have threatened reporter. It is unfortunate, but it is also unfortunate for you to generalize the occupiers and their beliefs. Capitalism in it's raw form does not work. The iron law of oligarchy brings people to the top and that is why regulation is needed to keep them from fucking the little guy. That is what we need.

[Barry62152]

@MrBkerth Now I know your a fuckin numbskull, because you want the kind of system that doesn't work and no one trys to win, then everyone ends up as an equal fuckhead loser and everything sucks for everybody, That's what we call Socialism. Sorry dumbass, but socialism doesn't work. Look at the Soviet Union, Comrade, They couldn't even fuckin farm. Capitalism works because you have the freedom to pick the career you want to work in and earn money and a decent wage by doing well, so shut up.

[MrBkerth]

@Barry62152 I never said socialism works. You're obviously an ideologue that just won't listen to other people. Pure socialism doesn't work, but neither does pure capitalism. If careers were so simple to get that you could just pick one out of nowhere and just have that job then these people wouldn't be out their. Your manner of talk is reprehensible and I don't appreciate ad hominem attacks. I like Capitalism but there needs to be rules. I feel sorry that you apparently lack the ability

[MrBkerth]

@Barry62152 to have a level headed and civil discussion with someone that doesn't agree with you.

[UtherPendragan]

The guy is doing drugs, camping out in the park and demanding free stuff from the rest of us. He has already stabbed us in the neck with a pen.

[MrBkerth]

@UtherPendragan Where can I find these demands of free stuff from the rest of us? Your point of view seems like a gem in the rough that obviously isn't just some bullshit talking point and is a legitimate statement from these people. I just felt that we should know and spread this information around since they are just freeloading off of us and you obviously have the information to discredit them.

[UtherPendragan]

@MrBkerth Forgive student loans, free education. The very same stuff that Obama is now trying to give them to buy thier votes in 2012.

[MrBkerth]

@UtherPendragan So forgiving student loans and free education is stabbing us in the neck? Why should a higher education be only a privilege? We spend billions of dollars every year spying on our own citizens and in defense yet we have 37 states cutting educational funding? This isn't demanding free stuff from us, it's demanding education for all of us. The Conservative Christians must be right though, Jesus is a staunch capitalist that never gave anything away for free....

[UtherPendragan]

@MrBkerth Just go give away everything you have and live in a cave. You want to be a commie move to China.

[MrBkerth]

@UtherPendragan I do give things away to people. Just because I think that we shouldn't bar people from education doesn't make me a communist. I'm sorry that the concept of a rational discussion without throwing out cliche` presumptuous arguments escapes you.

[UtherPendragan]

@MrBkerth How is this for cliche and presumptuous? Get your stinking dirty hand off my wallet hippie. Get a job and pay some taxes before deciding how much to tax others. Take your commie ass back to Russia, China, Cuba or North Korea. I don't owe you anything and the USA don't owe you anything except a chance to work hard and be free.

[MrBkerth]

@UtherPendragan That is pretty presumptuous. You sure showed me.

[whereitsat309]

@UtherPendragan "commie" "Russia" "China" Ahhh.... for you the last 20 years of world history is just something that happened to other people, huh?

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth You're sophistry is reprehensible.

All the student loan plan will do is lend artifically low-interest rates loans to those who may not afford it. The exact issue which caused the housing crisis. And the forgiveness of student debt will not take effect until far into the future for a miniscule amount of time. In fact, using Deparment of Education numbers, this horrific larceny will only save the average student $4.50 to $7.50 a month. How is that helping at all?

[MrBkerth]

@conservativeco I'm not advocating the student loan plan. I agree that isn't the way to do things. What I'm saying though is that we pay for schools for grades K-12, I don't see how four more years will break this nation when we could always cut spending from defense or from our wasteful war on drugs. It wouldn't be easy and it wouldn't be cheap but I would much rather my tax money go to more education than on locking someone up for possession or another bomb.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth In addition, it is always possible to pay for college by working hard in High School so as to obtain acedemic scholarships. College is not a right as it is at other people's expense to pay for such, making it larceny.

Jesus espoused opposition to theft. If you're going to steal something, even if it is to give it to the poor (as the gov't does via entitlements) it is still theft. In addition, gov't is a man-made institution for a fallen world; therefore, God has no political ideology.

[MrBkerth]

@conservativeco College tuition has skyrocketed in the past years, I don't understand the difference between the public education system being any more of a right than college. The entire concept of education is an ongoing process. To attend my college with the supplies for classes it takes about $20,000 a year. We spend $20,000 a year per prison inmate. On top of the the government spends about $10,000 a year on public education students.

[MrBkerth]

@MrBkerth  Keep in mind that this $20,000 dollar school used to be more in the ball park of $10,000. If we were to cut the 75 Billion dollar the intelligence community wastes every year and the absolutely massive expenditure on defense then it wouldn't be so hard. Of course, I wouldn't propose we only cut from things the Conservatives favor. There is a need for serious reform of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Welfare.

[MrBkerth]

@MrBkerth However, their is another way to help pay for this and that is to close tax loopholes. The wealthy people are not spending this money and it definitely isn't creating more jobs. If demand doesn't increase, there is no incentive to hire people for your company if that would create a surplus and devalue your product. Altogether, this would not be easy although it is not impossible.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth The reason why the wealthy aren't investing is because of fears of government lootery of their wealth and over-regulation which inhibits economic creation. And I don't see how continuing to loot their wealth would do anything to create any investment. Demand is also depreciated because consumers are not gaining capital from wealthy producers who are not spending due to taxation and consumers are also fearful of taxation as well.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth Taking capital from a job creator and anticipating more job creation is like taking the water, seed and soil from a farmer and demanding more food; taking fuel out of an engine and demanding your car to drive faster; taking electricity from a light bulb and demanding a brighter room. You can't take the means of production from a producer and demand more production.

In addition, punishing such production does nothing in the advance of production.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth This is not to say I'm in disfavor of eliminating loopholes, I believe we must overthrow this whole overly complicated, destructive tax system driven by the larceny of an income tax and replace it with a Fair Tax, in fact.

[MrBkerth]

@conservativeco I definitely agree that this tax system needs reform but you see where I'm coming from right? I mean the tea party spent it's early days talking about similar things as the "Occupiers". Yes, there are socialists and anarchists but that's not the point. The most prominent beliefs I see when I go out in demonstrations with the "Occupiers" is the elimination of corporate money influencing our government, like Jack Abramoff before he was busted.

[MrBkerth]

@MrBkerth The other prominent complaint is that these banks are responsible for the poor economic state we are in with their deregulation and their reckless practices. Their are ignorant people that get focused on like the reprehensible individual in the video but by no means are we "assholes" as another commenter stated.

[MrBkerth]

@MrBkerth I don't think that education should ever be held away from people because of financial instability, and as a recent graduate, scholarships are not as easy to get as you made it seem. Regardless, if our politicians were more willing to have the dialogue we just had instead of shutting down in some asinine game of chicken with the government shut down date I think we would be better off. It's been a pleasure.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth The belief that banks caused this alone via risky lending thanks to deregulation is a complete farce. The Community Reinvestment Act forced banks to hand out subprime loans; in fact, in 1995 Obama sued Citibank under this act for alleged discrimination against the poor for mortgages (because they couldn't afford them). Gov't-run Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac led the pack in risky lending and the Fed worsened the situation by keeping interest rates artificially depreciated.

[whereitsat309]

@conservativeco Ha-ha! No-one forced the banks to engage in private, competitive mortgage securitization, did they? You've got the cart and the horse mixed up.

[conservativeco]

@whereitsat309 Hooray for lies, nitwit. First of all, laws, namely the Community and Reinvestment Act did force them to do so. Second of all, the lowest 20% of earners have seen their wages increase 4.6% since 1975 and 3.6% since 1996. So mucbh for "wage depreciation for the 99%."

Quit with the class-warfare dribble; stop demonizing people simply for pursuing their happiness. Instead of hating the rich's profits, go "Occupy" a job and innovation and get your own profits.

[whereitsat309]

@conservativeco Ah, I see you're a bucket merchant. Your unsourced figures fail to impress me even if they weren't tiny in comparison to the richest 400 families in the US. Which section of the CRA 'forced' banks Securitization or Credit default swaps? Good luck on proving your point on that one. I have a job, but even if I didn't why would that not allow me to comment your posts? As for "lies" and "nitwit", don't make me laugh any harder...

[nilbud]

@conservativeco You don't know what inflation is, you're fucking hilarious.

[vamoalla9]

@conservativeco lol...I haven't checked any numbers, just making a casual observation here but if someone in the lowest 20 pct of earners in 1975 made...Let's say, 12 grand and has seen his an increase of 4.6 pct since then, that doesn't sound like something to celebrate.

[whereitsat309]

@conservativeco Ah... no reply....what a surprise.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth The difference between OWS and the Tea Party is that the Tea Party wants to remove "crony" from the word "Crony Capitalism," while OWS wants to remove the word "Capitalism." Their principles of redistribution of wealth and living second-hand, collectivistic lives are contrary to the principles of the Tea Party.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth The Occupiers are not talking about simply getting rid of crony capitalism. Many of them hate the fact that banks make a profit in the first place. Just look at their formal demands: garaunteed living wage, universal debt forgivness, outlaw credit reporting agencies, having the gov't take over healthcare, one trillion for infrastructure, environment, they have no problem with green subsidies like Solyndra; how's any of that removing the gov't from the economy, like the tea party?

[whereitsat309]

@conservativeco No, the majority want the "service sector" to you know, serve. Banks aren't an industry, they don't produce, this isn't Capitalism as Smith, Marx or even Lincoln understood, it this is Acquisition, merger, strip and fuck off, It makes a loaded deck look fair. After 20 years of increasing corporate profit, wage depreciation for the 99% (which probably includes you, sucker..) and a collapse in manufacturing you reap what you sow.

[introspectacle1]

@conservativeco "universal debt forgiveness".....hmmm, sounds like what the "too-big-to-fail" banks / institutions got....you have any comment history showing how indignant and annoyed you were about THAT back when it was happening? And as for "most of them hate": I guess you personally interviewed or have seen interviewed at least 51% of ALL Occupiers in order to be able to make such an outrageously unsupported generalization?

[conservativeco]

@introspectacle1 I am against the crony capitalism of nationalizing and bailing out banks; that can only lead to tyranny and destruction led by gov't incompetence. Any capitalist does as it is government intervention in the economy. My "sources" include the words of protestors themselves and the demands of the origional organizers of the movement. All you've done is lie and smear, thanks for using complete sophistry and immaturity to prove your delusional point rich with plain mindless stupidity

[nilbud]

@conservativeco You're so gullible, it's hilarious.

[introspectacle1]

@conservativeco Boy, you are fond of the word "sophistry", aren't ya? Bet it makes you feel smart to use "big" words....yet you completely and utterly fail to acknowledge or resolve my point, underscoring your own "sophistry" rich with embellished ignorance.

Pretending to be smarter than you are might work with your goofy, pseudo-intellectual Youtube friends, but I see right through the facade of superfluous, polysyllabic descriptors and can tell you that I am duly unimpressed.

[introspectacle1]

@conservativeco As I'm sure you haven't, and therefore that statement is a completely fabricated bunch of crap coming from an obviously biased source, anyone with any sense can now be safe in the knowledge that they can dismiss ANYTHING you have to say on this subject as you've made it clear that you see nothing wrong with using complete and utter nonsense to make your point.

[conservativeco]

@MrBkerth Note how college tuition has gone up as demand was artificially inflated thanks to gov't. You want the gov't which bankrupted Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid now to run our education system which it has caused an increase in costs in the first place using the same exact policies which caused this recession in the housing sector which will only save students a few dollars a month?

[mookixox]

I wouldn;t have believed most of the OWS protestors were communist socialist hippie Obozo supporter scum unless I saw it with my own eyes through Independant media like Mark Dice in the trenches. Man this Flea Party needs to go back to their parents basement and use less LSD and ganja.

[agent1up]

he should have stabbed that faggot reporter...

[hooplablahblahblah]

@agent1up Ah... The love and open mindedness of "the party of peace"

[agent1up]

@hooplablahblahblah dude he was talking about a pen...whats next? he threatened to shot him with a spit ball?

[hooplablahblahblah]

@agent1up Oh so a being stabbed in the throat with a pen isn't a big deal to you? Then come here. I've got plenty of pens to jab into your neck.

[agent1up]

@hooplablahblahblah dude if someone threatened to stab me with a pen, i'd laugh at them...

[hooplablahblahblah]

@agent1up And then choke on blood after the pen then peirced several important veins, arteries, and muscles in your throat. And then... Most likely.... Die. But you're some big tough guy I bet. Right? Or a Kung Fu champion?

[agent1up]

@hooplablahblahblah look at the up loaders profile,he obviously has an agenda,and its not the truth...when fascism arrives ,it will carry a bible draped with a flag...

[hooplablahblahblah]

@agent1up You didn't answer my question and facsism is traditionaly small goverment and anti religious. Facsist leaders need the people to worship them and not anybody else. Nice try though silly goose.

[JOEMLM]

i wonder how long until the American Criminal Liberties Union bails him out?

[bertly71]

Probably a druggie.

[gmako74]

That guy looks like a typical hippie scumbag transient you find on every corner in San Fran! The way to deal with them is a boot to the face.