UCLA Primate Experimentation Protest

[ShroedingerWatcher]

Pardon anyone who might be reading this but it has to be said:

jeffmagic32 (supporter of Pro-Test) doesn't know a thing about animal research or vivisection, insists he does and that "Animal research saved my life"(sic).

Constantly refuses to accept he was wrong. A classic repeater on videos. Will not be honest with anyone. A basic follower of vivisection.

I haven't forgotten the \\details please// on the comments you lot drowned out either. Go preach to your own cults.

[ShroedingerWatcher]

\\Animal research saved my life// LMAO!

\\Pro-Test Standing up for Science//

\\I understand at least some animal research has helped but its still cruel// Yeah right!

And those sneaky plugs for vivisection ain't going to fool everyone.

Pro-Test: Standing up for sadism. Standing up for Anti Science. Yep that aught to do it...for now.

[ShroedingerWatcher]

Pro-Test member: They lie because they like animals more than people.

Me: Pro-Test and vivisectionists lie because they like themselves more than anyone or animals, and of course the income it generates them.

Any more crap I receive from those Pro-Test twits will only add to my enjoyment later on.

Pro-Test had their fun, soon I will have mine.

[ShroedingerWatcher]

what they practice and preach to the unaware, claiming more research would have prevented those, ahem, mistakes. They say that every time they botch up their predictions, doesn't fool me one bit. And, as well as the sadist part of it e.g. animal sacrifices, we also come to find they really dont care about human wellbeing, just another result of the indoctrination of vivisection/animal research.

[jeffmagic32]

you don't make a lick of sense. Back to reality - my life (and millions of others) has been saved thanks to the life saving research of these brave scientists.

[ShroedingerWatcher]

he/she asked how does this affect the results? I gave him/her the description on this (which also comes from ex vivisectors), he/she never replied again.

I feel sorry for vivisectors, they do all that so-called research and at the end of the day all they proved was how animals are like rubix cubes or ever changing mazes that can never predict or show us anything in humans. But then again I don't feel so sorry for them because they or some of them have proven to be a danger to humans with...

[ShroedingerWatcher]

And they try to counter this by suggesting similarities between animals and humans. Then why is no one animal able to extrapolate the results to human beings?

They try to counter that one by saying that some animals can tell us things that a human or other animals cannot. Why do they think that is then? One of them gave me a nice detailed explanation on that. So I decided to get a little detailed myself, pointed out to him/her that apes for example have parts of the brain a human does not,...

[ShroedingerWatcher]

Every day animals are sacrificed under the belief it is necessary to save lives or promote living in some way. So easy to believe vivisection/animal testing saves lives, so easy to believe what vivisectors and vivisectionists say.

Yet they can't seem to show any proof of their claims, just more empty articles which they claim show proof of the benefits when every one of them admit that humans still have to tell us what happens with a drug or treatment...

[corycatlady]

Make sure you check out posted evidence of an informent/agent involved ina a lawsuit I represented myself in against UCLA. Myspace. Go to Find Friends, then type in UclaCoverUp. This red headed woman Pamelyn Ferdin and her husband NAALF Press Officer Jery Vlasak are protecting the guy because they are also working tor the governmnet.

[LAsoulmagic]

Citizens! This woman is a terrorist, who has attempted to kill several research scientists, in an attempt to stop their life saving work. She is derange. She is paranoid. Ignore her.

[jeffmagic32]

Citizen, be warned! This woman has been labeled a domestic terrorist by the FBI. She has attempted to kill research scientist on several occasions.

[LAsoulmagic]

hey Jeffmagic32 - yeah, you're right man. This chick is nuts.

[jeffmagic32]

no kidding. These animal rights wackos are both morally confused and totally incompetent.

[jeffmagic32]

I speak the truth mam.

[jeffmagic32]

spies everywhere? Lady, you are a nutcase. Nobody wants to kill you. Its you who is being violent. Do us all a favor, get into some other crackpot BS - numerology or something.

[jeffmagic32]

then why was the woman there supporting the scientists? Are you crazy? Oh wait, you are. A crazed terrorist.

[jeffmagic32]

This post is very hard to follow, so I'm not sure how to respond. I will say this - the smart people were on our side of the street, the guy in the monkey suit and the women with bad collagen lip implants were on your side.

[jeffmagic32]

did you happen to meat the nice lady who's car was blown up? Her crime? Living two doors down from a hard working scientist.

[corycatlady]

Jeff, some ALF activity is for real while some of it is done by your side, it's so obvious. You all are insulting the public's intelligence. If someone is going to go tot risk of going to prison they will make sure they get the right house. And how about those :missing vans' from UCLA, what a buch of crap that was.

[jeffmagic32]

wrong. There is a far more logical explanation - the animal rights wackjobs are as foolish and incompetent as they are morally confused.

[jeffmagic32]

when pseudo-scientists put on a scientific conference, no semi-intelligent person will bother to take it seriously. Today however, was a different story. The media was there, because they can tell the difference between scientists, PhDs, doctors, people who's lives have been saved by this valuable research, and 20 idiots led by a fool in a monkey suit.

[jeffmagic32]

your cause has no support. You cannot win the battle on the merits of your argument, that is why you bomb people. Usually the wrong people, lol. Next time have the guy in the monkey suit plant the bomb.

[jeffmagic32]

coo coo, coo coo. This domestic terrorist is out of her mind. She is likely to be involved in several bombings. She is against the life saving research that saved my life, and the lives of millions of others. But fear not, the trap is already set.

[jeffmagic32]

let me add - you are one classy domestic terrorist.

[jeffmagic32]

I saw about 20 wingnuts, it was hard to tell one from another, with the exception of the intoxicated fellow in the gorilla suit. Meanwhile, we had several hundred educated people, many of whom are real scientists and doctors. The kind woman was mentioned on the news this afternoon. It was good she got to tell her story. She is just one of many victims of extremist animal rights terrorists.

[jeffmagic32]

we already have two of you in prison. There are more headed there shortly. You could be one of them, I'm not quite sure. You probably aren't important enough to bother with.

[jeffmagic32]

I met one very sweet woman who lives 2 doors down from a brave scientist. This sweet woman's car was blown up by animal rights terrorists, just a few feet from where her daughter was sleeping. (Animal rights wackos are as clueless and incompetent as they are morally confused). She was there is the streets, supporting not only her neighbor but all the scientists who are saving lives, and voicing her opposition to violent terrorist animal rights extremists.

[jeffmagic32]

the nutjobs may have had 2 more in their posse, but they are thankfully in prison awaiting trial for at least six months.

[jeffmagic32]

well, I have just returned from the Pro-Test rally. It was quite a showing, we had the animal rights wackos outnumbered by a factor of 10. On one side of the street was a ragtag band of washed up hippies, about 20 of them, including one clearly intoxicated man in a gorilla suit. On the other side of the street were hundred of well informed people, many doctors and scientists. Many of us are alive thanks to animal research, others have been the target of threats.

[corycatlady]

Wait, are you calling me ugly or Agent Pameyln Ferdin, the X Child "actress"? Do keep in mind that both her and husband Vlasak are protecting the informent/agent posted on my myspace page. I thought you looked at my page. Maybe you did. Who cares if I am gay or not. Ferdin is straight I think but who knows. Maybe she cheats on her Agent husband and gets some good stuff on the side since she is a big star with the government and the movement too.

[jeffmagic32]

coo coo, coo coo. Spies are everywhere. Everyone is out to get me. I am a big star!

[corycatlady]

I knew that was coming. lol. That's fine....beauty is only skin deep. I would rather be the ugliest person in the world than to be an evil vivisector spreading scientific fraud.

[jeffmagic32]

Damn, thats the fugliest terrorist I have ever seen!

[jeffmagic32]

She turned lesbian because no man would have her. Its no surprise, just take a look at that mug, and listen to the god awful voice! And oh yeah - she is totally out of her freakin' mind!

[jeffmagic32]

this woman is an angry lesbian,  Since she could not find a man, she is taking it out on scientists, for some strange reason. Yeah, she is a nut job all right. An angry and pathetic nut job.

[corycatlady]

For anyone who would like to look at the information I have posted about an informent/agent who edited film evidence of an unreasonable injury UCLA inflicted on me, please got to myspace. Search under Find Friends. Type in UclaCoverUp.

Thnak-you,

Corinne Titus

[jeffmagic32]

lets review - I never brought up anybody's supposed name. You have mentioned many names.  I have never even heard of the huge majority of names you have tossed around in your comments. I, on the other hand, have respect for privacy, even the privacy of people that I don't like. That is why I have mentioned no names in any of my posts.

[corycatlady]

jeffmagic32 (1 week ago) Show Hide 0  Marked as spam Reply these wackos tried to bomb my mother's house - but they left the bomb next door at the home of an 85 year old woman. Fortunately, they are as incompetent as they are morally confused - the bomb did not go off.

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THIS IS WHERE YOU IDENTIFIED YOURSELF. YOUR FIRST POST.

[jeffmagic32]

sadly, that story is all too common.

[jeffmagic32]

think of all my posts as parts of a long poem - you can take whatever you like from them. You are supposed to almost sing along - its a game. You know, just for fun. Take the following example, now I might just say "She's a Terrorist", and now you are you supposed to say something like "No she isn't". Kinda like "ring around the rosey". ;-)

[corycatlady]

Jeff, you identified yourself as the son of UCLA vivisector Lynn Fairbaks. You have accused me, Corinne Titus, posting name CoryCatLady, of planting bombs. REMOVE all the posts accsusing me of planting bombs.

[jeffmagic32]

I have made no such identification of who I am, and I have no knowledge of ( I have never heard of) Corinne Titus. I am simply stating the following, in the abstract -

SHE IS A TERRORIST. SHE PLANTS BOMBS!

[corycatlady]

You ARE the son of UCLA vivisector Lynn Fairbanks, correct?

[jeffmagic32]

SHE PLANTS BOMBS! SHE IS A TERRORIST!

[corycatlady]

It really doesn't matter if I am crazy or not, as long as I expose torture and scientific fraud. All your name calling will never stop above the ground activists like myself or the Animal Liberation Front, lol. NOTHING will stop the ALF, get use to it.

NOTHING will stop me either. Go fuck yourself Jeff.

[jeffmagic32]

your conclusions are not reasonable. You cannot gather data and make any sense out of it. Think about his for a second - perhaps the world is not aligned against you, perhaps you totally misjudge the researchers that you condemn, perhaps there are no spies or conspiracies aimed at you. No, the truth is so much simpler - you are crazy. Get the help you need.

[corycatlady]

Jeff, you started these posts by identifying yourself as the son of Lynn Fairbanks, a UCLA vivisector. You have made several accusations, claiming that CoryCatLady (me) specifically, have planted bombs. That's a very serious accusation. I learned a lot about law from representing myself against UCLA, The Regents of The University of Ca. REMOVE all the posts you wrote accusing me, CoryCatLady (my posting name) of planiting bombs.

[jeffmagic32]

it would be funny to read her senseless ramblings if she were not a violent terrorist hell bent on death and destruction.

[jeffmagic32]

coo coo, coo coo. Attention people - this chick is totally out of her mind! Just read her messages below! A grade A nut job if ever there was one.

[corycatlady]

Warning to activists, there are NUMEROUS informents in Southern California making odd/protective statements like Vlasak about Vijay even after all the evidence I have was presented to them. LOOK at the facts yourself. I am more than happy to fax anyone my proof. I represented myself in a lawsuit aganst UCLA vivisectors, Regents. Vijay only has one name whcih was legally changed in 1993.

[corycatlady]

Warning to activists. When I showed NAALF Press Officer the photo of Martin Gorda, informent/agent in the 1991 Animals' Voice April/May issue and said, "Doesn't he look like Vijay?" Vlasak replied, "Vijay was in the military before" He was trying to clear his past. Vijay changed his name in 1993, birth dates don't match on his name change. I represented myself in a lawsuit, Vijay edited film evidence against UCLA.

[corycatlady]

Attention Activists. Pamelyn Ferdin & NAALF Press Officer Jerry Vlasak are working for the government as agents. They both are protecting an informent/agent named Vijay who had film evidence edited for UCLA vivisectors. See for yourself. Vijay is the informent in 1991 Animals' Voice magazine April/May issue. Look at Vijay's legal name change of 1993. His birth dates don't match on his current & previous names.

[corycatlady]

Jeff, you were raised by a deranged vivisecting mother who seeks pleasue in torturing monkeys. If UCLA "researchers" really cared about human beings than surely there would of been SOME coverage ont the"Alternative"Models to Animal "Research" Conference which was held back in Jan. 2008. When your school paper did not cover it ya all really showed your true intentions. As you put it,"throw the dog a bone to shut him up."

[jeffmagic32]

your ignorance is astounding. You have a deranged mind. Now go back to the spies, the hit squad, your legion of fans.

[jeffmagic32]

you are in the moral wrong on two fronts. First, without animal research many people, including myself, would be dead. So, your protests will only lead to more human death and distress. Second, your violent tactics certainly endanger, and seek to kill, other human lives.

[corycatlady]

Jeff, you started postng on these 2 home demo videos by saying you are the son a vivisector, the one who had a bomb device placed at the house next door (i feel by your own side on purpose). That's Lynn Fairbanks, correct? She does not look Cambodian (like you page indicates) are you? Adopted? You are famous then?

[jeffmagic32]

If you think my family wanted any part of this fight, you are crazy. The fight was brought to us by animal rights wackos. First, they protested. Next they vandalized. Finally, they left a bomb. It didn't go off. Since then, a few other UCLA researchers have had their cars blown up. Now tell me, what should I think about these people? I have gathered the evidence and come to the conclusion that they are crazed terrorists.

[jeffmagic32]

Your post below really speaks for itself - you are out of your freakin' mind.

"You people have a lot of nerve to protest the protestors. What a bunch of idiots looking for trouble. I am sure you have something really fake all cooked up with some informents. I can just see it now. Have you rehearsed enough yet? I am sure there will be some infoments getting arrested on purpose as usual...duh. Oh that REALLY convinces me, NOT! I will look out for the REAL activists."

[jeffmagic32]

I am not interested in your conspiracy claptrap. You will see me with the Pro-Test scientists and supporters. Many people, including myself, would not be alive without animal research and the medical supplies that can be harvested from animals.

[jeffmagic32]

coo coo coo coo. Spies are everywhere. The government wants to kill me. I am a big star.

[jeffmagic32]

let me imagine what your deleted posts might say - "the government is trying to kill me!" "There are spies everywhere!" "I am a famous hero to the world" "I will have my revenge on the world for making me so unappealing to the opposite sex"

[jeffmagic32]

let me imagine what your deleted posts might say - "the government is trying to kill me!" "There are spies everywhere!" "I am a famous hero to the world" "I will have my revenge on the world for making me so unappealing to the opposite/same sex"

[corycatlady]

I am NOT going to commit suicide. If I wind up dead, please don't believe it was not murder. Something already happened to me once. If this happens remember these facts that are part of a UCLA cover up. Look at the 1991 magazine April/May Animals' Voice magazine, Maritn Gorda-tinforment/agent. Look at the depostion copy for Vijay,witness who resembles him. Vijay's birth dates don't match on his 1993 name change. Vijay filmed and edited film evidence of an unreasonable injury.

[corycatlady]

You don't believe UCLA actually DID have a conference? it was titled Alternative Models to Animal Research. Watch PART ONE of my intrerview with Dr Peccei, Vice Chancelor of "Research". He invited me to it and I attended it. Hear me talk about it with him. The night light was left on & I had a bad hair day but there is the proof. I can also fax you the program and my ID badge. He admits there was NO coverage, WTF?

[jeffmagic32]

sometimes you throw a dog a bone just to stop it from barking for a while

[corycatlady]

Deranged no, changed from UCLA's unreasonable injury they inflicted on me and the difficulty of representing myself followed by the movement's lack of interest and concern over an informent/agent who edited film evidence, very much so. By the way, UCLA's FIRST "Alternatives" to Animal Research Conference was on Jan. 24 & 25, 2008. UCLA did not even have their own school paper cover the conference.

[jeffmagic32]

sure, thats because no self respecting scientist would bother discussing your deranged ideas. You are no more welcome at a scientific discussion than Pat Robertson is welcomed at a discussion on evolution. Its simply a waste of time.

[corycatlady]

I don't know didley squat about bombs. You are insane to think everyone does and how dare you accuse me. The door to UCLA was opened up for me, I was invited inside you fool. There was NO security there that night, they handeled it wrong. You will see me in the media one day for sure. I bet my life on it.

[jeffmagic32]

so you are not only a terrorist but also a fame hound? Only in LA. Me thinks you will die in obscurity, hopefully in prison.

[jeffmagic32]

you are likely to blow yourself up - that's how a lot of terrorists go out. If you can avoid that, you will probably just get crazier and crazier the older you get (are you currently on medication?). As for science, surely you are powerless against it. Despite people like you, and the people that killed Copernicus, and those who vilified Darwin, the search for knowledge moves forward.

[jeffmagic32]

debate is great. Intimidating small children and blowing up the cars of researchers is not. Yelling lies in front of somebody's home is ok, but it certainly is bizarre. I distrust the government as much as anybody, but to suggest that you are important enough to be the target of a government "hit" just proves how crazy you really are. Reality check - you are not an important person. You are an irritant.

[jeffmagic32]

is that some song from the 60's? Ok, you're right - there is a massive, multi-level conspiracy aimed at you. As we speak, sinister masterminds are planning how best to kill you. But just walking up and stabbing or shooting you, no, that's too easy. These masterminds have more sinister plans - think man eating sharks with death rays. Something with a little pizzaz.

[corycatlady]

You probably believe the DC Madam really killed herself. The gov does murder people and I could go into detail about what happened to me but you will never believe me anyway. I have NO plans to kill myself now. I use to feel very hurt over the way the movement is ignoring me about this informent/agent with all the evidence I have but then I realized that those people are informents too and just doing their job so I don't take it personally anymore. I want to live and expose the truth one day.

[jeffmagic32]

coo coo, coo coo.

[jeffmagic32]

money? What on Earth are you talking about? You think scientists do research and work for universities for the big cash rewards? Of course not, they do so because they love science - they love expanding human knowledge and they want to help people. And society agrees with them, not you. You are trying to force, through a campaign of terror, your views on the rest of the American public. When the people still ignore you, you plant bombs.

[jeffmagic32]

you were the one who brought up money. You are clearly deranged.

[jeffmagic32]

the reality is nobody cares what you say. This video is a case in point. Until I came here to insult you, hardly 100 people had seen the thing in almost a month.

[corycatlady]

The FBI have been watching me since UCLA had film evidence edited through an informent/agent. I was unreasonably injured at a UCLA demo. On the way out of the UCLA police station I honeslty heard the radio dj (car radio) say, "Here's a song about the UCLA police department who took batons to demonstrators" Us and Them by Pink Floyd. God is watching all of you.

[jeffmagic32]

You were pushed into a wall? Are you serious? Compare that to blowing up cars, threatening young children - you people are scum. We're just lucky that you are all so incompetent and irretrievably stupid.

[corycatlady]

So you are saying because other people do things that it's ok for UCLA to destroy evidence of an unreasonable injury? That's a crime and a threat to ALL activists of any kind. My left arm is permanently damaged which has affected my income and survival. You just want to hate anyone that believes in debating vivisection because it is all about money and nothing more. You don't give a shit about humans or animals, face it.

[jeffmagic32]

no, I am saying when you charge into offices, vandalize property and terrorize people, don't be surprised if you get a bump on the arm. You are setting off bombs for crying out loud.

[jeffmagic32]

In fact, I love animals and people. My affection for the latter explains why I have never set off a bomb. You cannot say the same. When they people ignore your message, you blow things up. When the brave scientists continue their important work, you terrorize them.  That is the exact definition of terrorism, and that is why your organization is now being treated as such by the FBI.

[jeffmagic32]

coo coo coo coo. Wow, you really are crazy. I know it can get confusing, but the police and FBI are investigating you and your wack-job friends, not my Mother and my family.

[jeffmagic32]

just a few minutes ago you were calling her all sorts of names. Do you often yell hateful comments about people and things that do not exist?

[corycatlady]

You mom doesn't care about terrifying monkeys for fraud and money.

[jeffmagic32]

Her monkeys are happier (and live in a more natural state) than your cat, I can assure you of that. If my mom wanted to make money, she wouldn't have gotten her PhD, and she would not work for a university. (I can see you have deleted several of your own comments - is this the masterpiece you have been working on ?) LOL

[jeffmagic32]

I see you have now deleted some of my comments. Well, at least you know you cannot challenge me intellectually. You are incapable of thinking rationally, so you are pretty hopeless in any sort of debate. In fact, you could easily be outsmarted by most of the monkeys I have met.

[corycatlady]

Some of these people are priotecting an informent/agent who edited film evidence from when I was unreasonably injured at a UCLA demonstration.. I found his photo in Animlas' Voice April/May 1991magazine. He resembles the "activist" who was holding the camera.. Some of them straight out make protective comments even with the backgound check I did and the matching photo. He had film evidence edited for UCLA. He changed his name in 1993, his birth dates don't match on his name change.

[jeffmagic32]

why so many police? Because this an affiliated groups have now planted several bombs and blown up a researcher's car. Just look at them - a pathetic grouping of washed up hippies and brainwashed college students. Together, they have commited several violent act of terrorism. If you see these people protesting, start arguing and/or fighting.

[jeffmagic32]

these same morons tried to scare my mom at about 11 pm with loud knocking at her door and the non-sensical screaming you can hear in this video. They weren't expecting me and a group of my friends waiting there. We dominated them both physically and intellectually - by the end they could only call us "gay" as they got back in their cars and headed home.