do i have to revoke my SS# first from the government? or just follow the processes and mailing? If I do can you help me i have become lost trying to learn how.
ok ...your saying when you get the "frivilous" letter threatening with a $5000 / letter ,then we should just send it to "another" address and take a chance on getting these $5000 fines? what the IRS isnt connected enough to see that you just recieved these letters and now your sending them more? What kind of idiocracy is this. what are the 3 address'? What address and WHO have you had success doing this with?Lets see your paper work to show us that it has worked.Show a few sets of completed docs
i have done the AFV method by douglas riddle, 810.00 traffic fines, its been 45 days and no response and the fines still do remain, can anyone give me advise???
You may want to watch the video "30 little known facts about america" in case the irs gives you some back talk about being able to use this because the are out of jurisdiction in terms of the organic govt. because they are a division of the UN which is the IMF (International Monetary Fund) but remember that the birth certificate and ss# are adhesion contracts that are not in full disclosure based on requirements of contract law. You can form an argument on these premises if there is trouble
Someone Please Help---Do I need to File anything 1st,like a ucc1 or security aggrement or right to claim, Someone PLEAS HELP-WHAT DO I NEED TO DO FIRST INORDER TO APPLY A4V
@ARBuilder1776 Actually your signature on the contract is where the credit came from not the insution you're "borrowing" from, you actually create the credit it's the fact that they trick you into paying back money that makes people think there is a "debt" attached when there isn't, the deal has already been done.
Thank you so much for this wonderful wealth of knowledge about acceptance 4 value from our birth certificate stock bonds account. I am going to get involved in this process.
maybe you should do some research before you come on here saying it is fraud! It is so annoying when someone speaks on something they dont have any knowledge about. I have done this many times, and i know as a fact it works, I even contacted my local FBI and they said there is nothing illegal bout this. The public school system did a wonderful job bringing up a perfect idiot, just as our government wanted and still wants!!
@755aaron they work because it's illegal to demand payment. Read HJR 192 currently encoded in statute as "Gold Clause" (google 5118 gold to get .gov reference) and you'll see. A4V should be submitted to the criminal investigation division of the IRS for the demand of payment. There is no money. Only debt notes. Only physical can PAY for something. Only fed res notes are accepted. You can't pay for anything. All you property is registered as collateral for bonds. Because u never paid for it.
@VerifiedNews your signature is credit. Banks dont have it and government doesnt have it...you do. Your signature is the energy that creates the credit. Banks make money out of thin air and charge you interest! You cant pay off debt with debt! Impossible! Do your Notice of understanding, get away from government forms of identification, and educate yourself as much as possible. God bless
@755aaron I conditionally accept your offer upon proof of claim that this is a scam. Please provide proof that this is a fraud then I will remove all relating videos from my channel.
Why did you ask the one caller if he were a Federal Agent? Only because you your self know what you're doing is an illegal scam.
From the FBI's website: "Redemption / Strawman / Bond Fraud
"Proponents of this scheme claim that the U.S. government or the Treasury Department control bank accounts—often referred to as “U.S. Treasury Direct Accounts”—for all U.S. citizens that can be accessed by submitting paperwork with state and federal authorities. [ cont.]
@TheElkton [ cont. ] Individuals promoting this scam frequently cite various discredited legal theories and may refer to the scheme as “Redemption,” “Strawman,” or “Acceptance for Value.” Trainers and websites will often charge large fees for “kits” that teach individuals how to perpetrate this scheme. They will often imply that others have had great success in discharging debt and purchasing merchandise such as cars and homes. [ cont. ]
@TheElkton [ cont . ] Failures to implement the scheme successfully are attributed to individuals not following instructions in a specific order or not filing paperwork at correct times.
''This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate. These documents are frequently referred to as “bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.” [ cont. ]
@755aaron Again show me proof. You have shown anything substantial just spewing some nonsense with providing any proof. Just cause the FBI says so is third party hearsay. I have never used any of these, "bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.”, to A4V anything. I wan you to show actual case law, statutes, codes that say A4V is fraud. Til then it is all hear say.
@TheElkton Amazing. According to TheElkton, the FBI is not a source of legal information.
Why does the federal government issue money if it is not to be used in commerce or to pay debts? Why doesn't the government just tell folk to invoke their Birth Certificate Account [or whatever magical hidden account you're claiming exists] to pay everything if that's all that is needed?
And what kind of idiot believes that a statement from a utility or credit card company is actually an asset to YOU?
@755aaron Conspiracy, this world is controlled by aliens. sorry? obviously your not getting they want that secet- account. Obviously everything is roses for you, the fbi is right huh, they are nice, right. USA , CALIFORNIA is not a corporation? We went bankrupt 1930, it's not all okay and exactly what is said, in fact it's usually the opposite.
You yourself have failed to offer any verifiable evidence that your scam is legal.
What about that caller who said she tried your scheme with the IRS and they slapped her with a $5,000 penalty if she were to attempt any more ''frivolous filings''?
@755aaron US Dollars (I.O.U) printed paper for the Federal Reserve created to enslave which is owned by one private family Rothchilds who control a whole nation a good thing if they have the right to do this dont you have the right to do the same back to them with there own trick/illusion ?
@TheElkton [ cont ] In addition, other official documents are used outside of their intended purpose, like IRS forms 1099, 1099-OID, and 8300. This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful. Notaries may be used in an attempt to make the fraud appear legitimate. Often, victims of the scheme are instructed to address their paperwork to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury.''
@755aaron I do not use any of those documents and instruct others who request the template I offer freely not to use any tax forms you described in your last comment. I have shown proof that it works and i am still able to freely go about my daily/personal business. I do not accept money for what I offer nor do I accept any gifts and or donations.
@755aaron so even though you THINK you paid for it, you actually just moved some US debt (dollars) to the hands of another person. That US debt is embodied in dollars. The debt on those dollars is still outstanding. The notes are PROPERTY of the FED RES. The FED RES didn't get paid, so it demands the purchased item be collateralized.
Do you see? No matter that you worked and slaved for it, you still have to pay RENT (prop taxes, registration, etc) because the USA didn't pay for it. A4V it.
You used debt notes to "purchase" the item. Those dollars represent PUBLIC debt you have to pay for with income taxes. Why are you paying the debt you owe to the united states to a bank? The dollars you borrowed are PUBLIC DEBT NOTES.
The government lies through its teeth on all its "consumer information" web pages. When you read the statutes they brear no resemblance to the claims on their websites. The problem you have is that you trust government agents not to lie cheat and steal. WRONG!
@755aaron becuase its a conspiracy, itll get paid, they just have to document it somewhere as wrong. It's kinda nuts. Proof is pr5oof, no gold, were ALL CAPS represented legal persons
In regards to mortgages there is a process that gets the bank into default, and then you can go after them for damages, fire the trustee, and then put the house in a trust.
sincerely thank you, your info that you find and post, is the most relevant and appreciated. please continue the great work... if you have time to mail me the a4v templates, i have been trying to make my own, but cant get it at a 45 degree angle... wont let me rotate. restore the republic.
do i have to revoke my SS# first from the government? or just follow the processes and mailing? If I do can you help me i have become lost trying to learn how.
smokeradar 4 hours ago
ok ...your saying when you get the "frivilous" letter threatening with a $5000 / letter ,then we should just send it to "another" address and take a chance on getting these $5000 fines? what the IRS isnt connected enough to see that you just recieved these letters and now your sending them more? What kind of idiocracy is this. what are the 3 address'? What address and WHO have you had success doing this with?Lets see your paper work to show us that it has worked.Show a few sets of completed docs
chaneyranch99 2 days ago
@TheElkton what 3 addresses is he talking about? can someone help me?
mochi245 1 week ago
ModernDeism 2 days ago
do you have to be a secure party to use this process???
cdimmm 1 week ago
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jasongiaco 3 weeks ago
so does the color mean any thing cuz ive heard that blue means one thing and red another any thing on this any one.
sammy1149 1 month ago
to TheElkton, i have mailed in my afv twice now and have no response from IRS/Treasury
the 810 traffic fines are still there, is there a phone number to call and check on this process?
is there a specific waiting period? I sent one AVF in august and another on nov 20th, do i need to do a UCC-1 first? please advise Troy
TroyJoseph100 1 month ago
@TroyJoseph100 yes you need to file your ucc-1 thats what separates you from the straw man
sammy1149 1 month ago
Hi Elkton, there's gotta be a "loophole" or "catch" to this? Will this come back to haunt me later?
TrailerTrashTubeTV 1 month ago
i have done the AFV method by douglas riddle, 810.00 traffic fines, its been 45 days and no response and the fines still do remain, can anyone give me advise???
TroyJoseph100 1 month ago
You may want to watch the video "30 little known facts about america" in case the irs gives you some back talk about being able to use this because the are out of jurisdiction in terms of the organic govt. because they are a division of the UN which is the IMF (International Monetary Fund) but remember that the birth certificate and ss# are adhesion contracts that are not in full disclosure based on requirements of contract law. You can form an argument on these premises if there is trouble
1985dctp 2 months ago
THE RIVAL IS IN THE HOUSE!
LawRival 2 months ago
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Someone Please Help---Do I need to File anything 1st,like a ucc1 or security aggrement or right to claim, Someone PLEAS HELP-WHAT DO I NEED TO DO FIRST INORDER TO APPLY A4V
DirectcontactfaComba 2 months ago
I am having no luck finding your group on Yahoo. Any help with this?
hp37042 2 months ago
SWEET!!! Time to run up the credit cards then A4V their asses. Look out Visa here I come!!!
Seriously, you make a debt, regardless of how worthless our money is, you made the debt and are responsible for it.
ARBuilder1776 3 months ago
@ARBuilder1776 Actually your signature on the contract is where the credit came from not the insution you're "borrowing" from, you actually create the credit it's the fact that they trick you into paying back money that makes people think there is a "debt" attached when there isn't, the deal has already been done.
doiremick86 2 months ago
Thank you so much for this wonderful wealth of knowledge about acceptance 4 value from our birth certificate stock bonds account. I am going to get involved in this process.
MrDrmabornmale4444 3 months ago
@TheElekton please tell me where to find your template ?
555spiker 5 months ago
@555spiker email me at rravila001@yahoo.com and I will send them to you.
TheElkton 4 months ago
maybe you should do some research before you come on here saying it is fraud! It is so annoying when someone speaks on something they dont have any knowledge about. I have done this many times, and i know as a fact it works, I even contacted my local FBI and they said there is nothing illegal bout this. The public school system did a wonderful job bringing up a perfect idiot, just as our government wanted and still wants!!
snipermom78 6 months ago in playlist A4V 2
Does this work with criminal convictions, or probation?
ChefAnatoly 6 months ago
@ChefAnatoly I have no experience with criminal conviction. So I am not able to answer that question.
TheElkton 6 months ago
@ChefAnatoly This scam does NOT work in any situation.
Run, don't walk, away from this kind of illegal scam.
755aaron 6 months ago
@755aaron they work because it's illegal to demand payment. Read HJR 192 currently encoded in statute as "Gold Clause" (google 5118 gold to get .gov reference) and you'll see. A4V should be submitted to the criminal investigation division of the IRS for the demand of payment. There is no money. Only debt notes. Only physical can PAY for something. Only fed res notes are accepted. You can't pay for anything. All you property is registered as collateral for bonds. Because u never paid for it.
VerifiedNews 6 months ago
@VerifiedNews your signature is credit. Banks dont have it and government doesnt have it...you do. Your signature is the energy that creates the credit. Banks make money out of thin air and charge you interest! You cant pay off debt with debt! Impossible! Do your Notice of understanding, get away from government forms of identification, and educate yourself as much as possible. God bless
free4life79 3 months ago
This is an illegal scam. Doing this kind of fraud will get you a visit from the nearest FBI agent.
Have a nice day.
755aaron 7 months ago
@755aaron I conditionally accept your offer upon proof of claim that this is a scam. Please provide proof that this is a fraud then I will remove all relating videos from my channel.
TheElkton 6 months ago 15
@TheElkton The FBI says it is a scam.
Why did you ask the one caller if he were a Federal Agent? Only because you your self know what you're doing is an illegal scam.
From the FBI's website: "Redemption / Strawman / Bond Fraud
"Proponents of this scheme claim that the U.S. government or the Treasury Department control bank accounts—often referred to as “U.S. Treasury Direct Accounts”—for all U.S. citizens that can be accessed by submitting paperwork with state and federal authorities. [ cont.]
755aaron 6 months ago
@TheElkton [ cont. ] Individuals promoting this scam frequently cite various discredited legal theories and may refer to the scheme as “Redemption,” “Strawman,” or “Acceptance for Value.” Trainers and websites will often charge large fees for “kits” that teach individuals how to perpetrate this scheme. They will often imply that others have had great success in discharging debt and purchasing merchandise such as cars and homes. [ cont. ]
755aaron 6 months ago
@TheElkton [ cont . ] Failures to implement the scheme successfully are attributed to individuals not following instructions in a specific order or not filing paperwork at correct times.
''This scheme predominately uses fraudulent financial documents that appear to be legitimate. These documents are frequently referred to as “bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.” [ cont. ]
755aaron 6 months ago
@755aaron Again show me proof. You have shown anything substantial just spewing some nonsense with providing any proof. Just cause the FBI says so is third party hearsay. I have never used any of these, "bills of exchange,” “promissory bonds,” “indemnity bonds,” “offset bonds,” “sight drafts,” or “comptrollers warrants.”, to A4V anything. I wan you to show actual case law, statutes, codes that say A4V is fraud. Til then it is all hear say.
TheElkton 6 months ago
@TheElkton Amazing. According to TheElkton, the FBI is not a source of legal information.
Why does the federal government issue money if it is not to be used in commerce or to pay debts? Why doesn't the government just tell folk to invoke their Birth Certificate Account [or whatever magical hidden account you're claiming exists] to pay everything if that's all that is needed?
And what kind of idiot believes that a statement from a utility or credit card company is actually an asset to YOU?
755aaron 6 months ago
@755aaron
I checked my birth certificate on the stock exchange...im a Canadian and there is
$322 million in there. seriously
free4life79 6 months ago
@free4life79 wow, are all birth bonds worth this much o.0 If so..that explains all of the 'derivatives' that keeps this inflated economy pumping.
eleganz 4 months ago
@free4life79 can you tell me how to do this???
zzzsilver 3 months ago
@755aaron Conspiracy, this world is controlled by aliens. sorry? obviously your not getting they want that secet- account. Obviously everything is roses for you, the fbi is right huh, they are nice, right. USA , CALIFORNIA is not a corporation? We went bankrupt 1930, it's not all okay and exactly what is said, in fact it's usually the opposite.
luminusAntic 5 months ago 5
@TheElkton The FBI is ''third party hearsay''?
That's a keeper.
You yourself have failed to offer any verifiable evidence that your scam is legal.
What about that caller who said she tried your scheme with the IRS and they slapped her with a $5,000 penalty if she were to attempt any more ''frivolous filings''?
755aaron 6 months ago
@755aaron US Dollars (I.O.U) printed paper for the Federal Reserve created to enslave which is owned by one private family Rothchilds who control a whole nation a good thing if they have the right to do this dont you have the right to do the same back to them with there own trick/illusion ?
555spiker 5 months ago
@TheElkton [ cont ] In addition, other official documents are used outside of their intended purpose, like IRS forms 1099, 1099-OID, and 8300. This scheme frequently intermingles legal and pseudo legal terminology in order to appear lawful. Notaries may be used in an attempt to make the fraud appear legitimate. Often, victims of the scheme are instructed to address their paperwork to the U.S. Secretary of the Treasury.''
fbi dot gov slash scams-safety slash fraud
755aaron 6 months ago
@755aaron I do not use any of those documents and instruct others who request the template I offer freely not to use any tax forms you described in your last comment. I have shown proof that it works and i am still able to freely go about my daily/personal business. I do not accept money for what I offer nor do I accept any gifts and or donations.
TheElkton 6 months ago
@TheElkton You do A4V, which the FBI says is a scam.
Anyone who trusts your advice over that of the FBI is - simply - crazy.
755aaron 6 months ago
@755aaron so even though you THINK you paid for it, you actually just moved some US debt (dollars) to the hands of another person. That US debt is embodied in dollars. The debt on those dollars is still outstanding. The notes are PROPERTY of the FED RES. The FED RES didn't get paid, so it demands the purchased item be collateralized.
Do you see? No matter that you worked and slaved for it, you still have to pay RENT (prop taxes, registration, etc) because the USA didn't pay for it. A4V it.
VerifiedNews 6 months ago
You used debt notes to "purchase" the item. Those dollars represent PUBLIC debt you have to pay for with income taxes. Why are you paying the debt you owe to the united states to a bank? The dollars you borrowed are PUBLIC DEBT NOTES.
The government lies through its teeth on all its "consumer information" web pages. When you read the statutes they brear no resemblance to the claims on their websites. The problem you have is that you trust government agents not to lie cheat and steal. WRONG!
VerifiedNews 6 months ago
@755aaron tour and idiot sorry, your position is tainted, logically sound, but fishy to the core, Why do YOU care? It's your loss. Some people.....
luminusAntic 5 months ago
@755aaron becuase its a conspiracy, itll get paid, they just have to document it somewhere as wrong. It's kinda nuts. Proof is pr5oof, no gold, were ALL CAPS represented legal persons
luminusAntic 5 months ago
@TheElkton can you send me the templates also?
MAVDAACE 1 month ago
@755aaron sounds like your paid. Obviously its legal, there is no money, no value.
luminusAntic 5 months ago
@755aaron So is opening an acoount on my behalf without my knowledge.
Sexysmurf77 4 months ago
@755aaron yeah to scare you away from the truth go lurk under a bridge troll !!!!!!!!!!!!
Meriamen 4 months ago
What if your from Canada will it work here??
Daniellechevrier 9 months ago
Anyone know what three address he is talking about in the beginning? That is - the place we send the A4V to?
avapplication 9 months ago
In regards to mortgages there is a process that gets the bank into default, and then you can go after them for damages, fire the trustee, and then put the house in a trust.
quiseekstruth 10 months ago
aby info on how to do this in Canada?
seaneire 10 months ago
@seaneire I think this will work in Canada I remember there was a talkshoe, I cant remember which, that talks about A4V for Canadians.
TheElkton 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
people please do your own research. some of these questions are dumb
detroitbadness 10 months ago
sincerely thank you, your info that you find and post, is the most relevant and appreciated. please continue the great work... if you have time to mail me the a4v templates, i have been trying to make my own, but cant get it at a 45 degree angle... wont let me rotate. restore the republic.
gotsilver77 1 year ago
@gotsilver77 email me rravila001@yahoo.com and I will send you the tamplate.
TheElkton 11 months ago
@gotsilver77 you can email me at rravila001@yahoo.com and I will send you the template. but you can also hand write them on your presentments.
TheElkton 10 months ago
Anyone know the 3 address he is referring to in the beginning?
avapplication 9 months ago
Thanks man.
Just a heads up on hjrbonds.com... error server, and site not found.
can't find templates
gotsilver77 1 year ago
@gotsilver77 Thank you I believe it's an old talkshoe show. I just like to poat any helpful info regarding the A4V system.
TheElkton 1 year ago
@gotsilver77 I just checked too. Error 404.
AceOfHeart2012 1 year ago
Thanks man.
Just a heads up on hjrbonds.com... error server, and site not found
gotsilver77 1 year ago