Most of the whales in captivity now a days were born there. They would not survive in the wild because they don't know how to and the chances of a pond accepting them would be very low. So it's good that they just stay there.
Orca's are the most beautiful animals i can imagine. and i hate those people wo make fun of them swimmin in those small tanks and doin unnatural thinks.. it's not fair, they have to be free! -.-
They treat these animals like circus clowns. They die prematurally in captivity and usually they are artificially inseminated. If twenty-years from now, they don't capture anymore from the wild, there won't be any captive orcas left. There is too small a gentic pool in captivity for them to be self-sustaining. Orcas should not be in captivity!!
Marineland SUCKS. its literally the baddest facility to keep orcas besides MSQ. 5 orcas have died there in the past 6 years. They keep horrible care of their orcas and they even used to let thousands of little kids pet them. Without washing hands. They did nothing about the health of their orcas.
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There is as much educational benefit in studying dolphins in captivity as there would be studying mankind by only observing prisoners in solitary confinement. - Jacques Cousteau.
I think that people shouldn't rush to release captive orcas. They are too dependent on human contact. Corky shouldn't bew realeased she has almost no teeth, compromising her ablity to hunt. Orcas are social and shun outsiders. Corky hasn't been seen by her family in over 30 years. Also Corky is a adoptive mother to at least 4 orcas. What would they do without her?
You're right. There's no way to stop the chain now that it has begun. It would be cruel to release any of the captive ones back into the wild. Keiko was the first, and we saw how that turned out, although I'm glad he died in the open ocean instead of in a tank. BUT they don't need to capture anymore. As for the wild ones that they rescue, it's nature. Let nature run it's F***ing course. I love Orcas and I'm tired of seeing them get treated like a commodity.
@MADEgurl06 Recent scientific studies have shown that orcas are well aware that they are orcas, and not pets for humans. Springer, the 18-month old orca that was returned to her family, quickly learned to stay away from boats and stay with her family. orcas would need to be "deprogrammed," but it can and has been done. keiko survived 7 months in the wild, so i would not say it was a total failer, and we learned a lot from him. although i cant see seaworld letting them go, we can hope
well the thing is, i have been studing orca(though no working with them directly) for the past 11 years. i have tons of stuff on them, including thousands of websites saved on my computer, (both pro and anti captivity), greenpeace reports, WWF reports, born free reports, books, seaworld statements, RSPCA and PETA stuff, dvds, tapes ect, zoo keeper forums, and i find out new stuff every day . i will look for the direct source you asked for but it might take a while. o.k.
However, i have to mention that i do agree with the point you made. i agree a 100%.
Its just you mentioned scientific studies. and i couldn't resist asking that question.
i am against captivity because i wouldn't like to be put in a prison. so i feel sorry for anything that has to live in an aquarium or tank or has their freedom compromised in any other way. my feedom is the most important thing i have. and i can't think of any other animal who wouldn't feel the same!!!
ha wow i havnt really visited this page since i went to canada and took the video. think this is most comments ive ever got on a video i uploaded on here to show friends, i frogt it was even here :D still love athena!
Waww that what is that what is beautiful to see them making of so attractive jumps, but is what they like it??!! NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
Are not they happier free?? To hunt sea lions, see them swimming has any more not to finish it, it is not more beautiful than they attractive jump in ponds any young???
Yes,let's do that. Then she'll freak out because she's never been in the wild before, chase little kids around like Keiko did, rip herself apart on ice floes because she doesn't know better, and die. Oh,and we'll be out $40 million. So let's 'put it back in the ocean'.
As a staff member at MLC, I won't trust any random youtuber that seems to have no knowledge of this or training techniques. They train 'tricks' through a process that creates and relies upon a strong bond between trainer and animal, a bond that you therefore can't just break while simultaneously training them further about a life that we as humans barely understand.
so u seem to think u know wat ur saying and ur a random utuber! my aunts and uncles all worked with orcas and i was raised around them... i know a lot for my age
And training for the wild has been attempted. The whale spent years leaving wild whales and returning to human contact all over the Atlantic Ocean. And the whale in this video was born in captivity, she doesn't even know what the wild is. And the last I heard, it had actually been made illegal to try releasing a captive born orca into the wild(but I haven't been able to confirm that yet)- it would just stress her out and confuse her as it did with Keiko.
Keiko was very what? I hope you're not trying to say old, because he was 27. Male orcas can live until they're at least 50, so he wasn't old. I never denied that you can train a whale how to survive, but the fact remains that even in training you can't destroy the bond and desensitization to humans that captive orcas have-Keiko survived, and let kids ride on his back. He didn't want to be alone, regardless of his training.
Actually, while they can live to 50, the average lifespan of a wild male orca is 30. 50 is more the maximum than "at least". Female orcas live on average to around 50, and can live to 70. I'm not sure why there's such a big difference to their average ages.
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I hate to burst your bubbles, but Athena is acting that way because it's the only way she will be fed. This is how they train captive orcas in amusement parks.
She should be swimming in a huge ocean, not imprisoned in a chlorinated pool.
This is sad, not happy. Thank you for posting it.
not true, I suggest that you type in "killer whale and dog" into the youtube search engine and watch that video. Killer whales have been drawn to humans dating back to native american history. orcas are smart and friendly creatures, and while they are trained, they are naturally curious and playful. I suggest you watch and study more on wild killer whales as I have.
To all bitching.
Most of the whales in captivity now a days were born there. They would not survive in the wild because they don't know how to and the chances of a pond accepting them would be very low. So it's good that they just stay there.
992kirky 1 month ago
I miss Ike so much....stupid SW leaving Kiska alone and taking him back without giving MLC a chance to replace him....idoits
hawaiianpony 3 months ago
Ok I was watching a Darken Rahl video and this came up... yep I see a resemblance..=P
sparrowcrazy 1 year ago
Orca's are the most beautiful animals i can imagine. and i hate those people wo make fun of them swimmin in those small tanks and doin unnatural thinks.. it's not fair, they have to be free! -.-
crackandheroines 1 year ago
@crackandheroines they dont do any behaviors they wouldnt do in the wild.. unless its a ww behavior with a trainer
shamuroxy 1 year ago
They treat these animals like circus clowns. They die prematurally in captivity and usually they are artificially inseminated. If twenty-years from now, they don't capture anymore from the wild, there won't be any captive orcas left. There is too small a gentic pool in captivity for them to be self-sustaining. Orcas should not be in captivity!!
14dlns 2 years ago 2
some one gave it coffe X3
orcaship 2 years ago
Positive changes have already occurred and attendance levels appear to be steadily
declining at those marine parks which still maintain cetaceans. Since 1990, at least 20
North American marine and amusement parks have permanently closed or
discontinued keeping cetaceans. Marine parks may have their defenders - but they have no reasonable defence. Jerye Mooney-WDCS
metridium 2 years ago
quotetard
Hyak44 1 year ago
Marineland SUCKS. its literally the baddest facility to keep orcas besides MSQ. 5 orcas have died there in the past 6 years. They keep horrible care of their orcas and they even used to let thousands of little kids pet them. Without washing hands. They did nothing about the health of their orcas.
HookipaGirl 2 years ago 5
marineland rocks!
princessandpeach 2 years ago
This is Athena =')
Unfortunatly she died in winter 2008 but we didn't know until may 2009.. Rip little Angel
fmorques 2 years ago 14
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There is as much educational benefit in studying dolphins in captivity as there would be studying mankind by only observing prisoners in solitary confinement. - Jacques Cousteau.
metridium 2 years ago
Athena :)
OrcaGirl15 3 years ago 2
I think that people shouldn't rush to release captive orcas. They are too dependent on human contact. Corky shouldn't bew realeased she has almost no teeth, compromising her ablity to hunt. Orcas are social and shun outsiders. Corky hasn't been seen by her family in over 30 years. Also Corky is a adoptive mother to at least 4 orcas. What would they do without her?
KeetTheOrca 3 years ago 11
You're right. There's no way to stop the chain now that it has begun. It would be cruel to release any of the captive ones back into the wild. Keiko was the first, and we saw how that turned out, although I'm glad he died in the open ocean instead of in a tank. BUT they don't need to capture anymore. As for the wild ones that they rescue, it's nature. Let nature run it's F***ing course. I love Orcas and I'm tired of seeing them get treated like a commodity.
MADEgurl06 2 years ago 2
@MADEgurl06 Recent scientific studies have shown that orcas are well aware that they are orcas, and not pets for humans. Springer, the 18-month old orca that was returned to her family, quickly learned to stay away from boats and stay with her family. orcas would need to be "deprogrammed," but it can and has been done. keiko survived 7 months in the wild, so i would not say it was a total failer, and we learned a lot from him. although i cant see seaworld letting them go, we can hope
elfwhitewave 2 years ago
im sorry. but i just have to ask, what scientific studies are those? where can i find a report of it?
mahjabeenadam 2 years ago
@mahjabeenadam
well the thing is, i have been studing orca(though no working with them directly) for the past 11 years. i have tons of stuff on them, including thousands of websites saved on my computer, (both pro and anti captivity), greenpeace reports, WWF reports, born free reports, books, seaworld statements, RSPCA and PETA stuff, dvds, tapes ect, zoo keeper forums, and i find out new stuff every day . i will look for the direct source you asked for but it might take a while. o.k.
elfwhitewave 2 years ago
ok thanks.
However, i have to mention that i do agree with the point you made. i agree a 100%.
Its just you mentioned scientific studies. and i couldn't resist asking that question.
i am against captivity because i wouldn't like to be put in a prison. so i feel sorry for anything that has to live in an aquarium or tank or has their freedom compromised in any other way. my feedom is the most important thing i have. and i can't think of any other animal who wouldn't feel the same!!!
mahjabeenadam 1 year ago
ha wow i havnt really visited this page since i went to canada and took the video. think this is most comments ive ever got on a video i uploaded on here to show friends, i frogt it was even here :D still love athena!
SarahEllie 3 years ago
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Yuck. Marineland started the whole captive orca thing.
HookipaGirl 3 years ago
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Waww that what is that what is beautiful to see them making of so attractive jumps, but is what they like it??!! NOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
Are not they happier free?? To hunt sea lions, see them swimming has any more not to finish it, it is not more beautiful than they attractive jump in ponds any young???
snoopstber14 3 years ago
take it out of the bloody take and put it back in the ocean.
sammcj2000 3 years ago
Yes,let's do that. Then she'll freak out because she's never been in the wild before, chase little kids around like Keiko did, rip herself apart on ice floes because she doesn't know better, and die. Oh,and we'll be out $40 million. So let's 'put it back in the ocean'.
Kiska771 3 years ago 4
no they can train them how to do tricks and they also can train them how to survive the ocean trust me!!
boycrayz101 3 years ago
As a staff member at MLC, I won't trust any random youtuber that seems to have no knowledge of this or training techniques. They train 'tricks' through a process that creates and relies upon a strong bond between trainer and animal, a bond that you therefore can't just break while simultaneously training them further about a life that we as humans barely understand.
Kiska771 3 years ago 3
so u seem to think u know wat ur saying and ur a random utuber! my aunts and uncles all worked with orcas and i was raised around them... i know a lot for my age
boycrayz101 3 years ago
Working with the orcas of the park featured in the video above creates the affect of knowing what one is saying.
Kiska771 3 years ago
how old are u. because im 11 and i know just about every fact about the orcas wild and at seaworld california and ive been with them to.
OrcaGirl15 3 years ago
And training for the wild has been attempted. The whale spent years leaving wild whales and returning to human contact all over the Atlantic Ocean. And the whale in this video was born in captivity, she doesn't even know what the wild is. And the last I heard, it had actually been made illegal to try releasing a captive born orca into the wild(but I haven't been able to confirm that yet)- it would just stress her out and confuse her as it did with Keiko.
Kiska771 3 years ago 2
no keiko was very ld and they did train keiko how to fend it's self in the wild u can train a whale to survive the wild
boycrayz101 3 years ago
Keiko was very what? I hope you're not trying to say old, because he was 27. Male orcas can live until they're at least 50, so he wasn't old. I never denied that you can train a whale how to survive, but the fact remains that even in training you can't destroy the bond and desensitization to humans that captive orcas have-Keiko survived, and let kids ride on his back. He didn't want to be alone, regardless of his training.
Kiska771 3 years ago 3
mmm good point i stand some what corrected
boycrayz101 3 years ago
Actually, while they can live to 50, the average lifespan of a wild male orca is 30. 50 is more the maximum than "at least". Female orcas live on average to around 50, and can live to 70. I'm not sure why there's such a big difference to their average ages.
nat365 2 years ago
Actually, the maximum is more like 60 for males and 90 for females...
124yuppers 1 year ago
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I hate to burst your bubbles, but Athena is acting that way because it's the only way she will be fed. This is how they train captive orcas in amusement parks.
She should be swimming in a huge ocean, not imprisoned in a chlorinated pool.
This is sad, not happy. Thank you for posting it.
theartistseye 3 years ago
not true, I suggest that you type in "killer whale and dog" into the youtube search engine and watch that video. Killer whales have been drawn to humans dating back to native american history. orcas are smart and friendly creatures, and while they are trained, they are naturally curious and playful. I suggest you watch and study more on wild killer whales as I have.
Lexluthor7777 3 years ago 3
Do you just copy and paste that message into every ML video?
Kiska771 3 years ago
OMG i luv this vid! its so cute :)
dolphingirl2324 4 years ago 3
which country is it? espana?
morgane807 4 years ago
Canada
flargmuffin92 4 years ago
yeh that is her guys, she so cute!! i coulda just stayed there watching the whales all day!
SarahEllie 4 years ago
aw wait whats her name ? She is just beautiful ! =)
albrit36 4 years ago
The orca's name is Athena. :)
Splashlover 4 years ago
it is Athena the whale is acting just like she did, but i haven't met Ikaika, but i believe thats him in the background.
phantasma616 4 years ago
aww cute i think that is Athena
stellagirl86 4 years ago