Jews Must Seek Converts, Spread Torah! Bejewish.org

[TagMahirTzedek]

1:00 "tiny group of people" ? Really? 600,000 men + their families, at minimum 3 million people. Really more like 6 million people.

[valeagathon]

jewish missionaries.now that's cool.

[vidaripollen]

all types of conversion is futile.look within.

[Animosity2UandU]

Can you imagine hoards of Black and Brown ppl showing up at your synagogues? What will little old blue haired Jewish ladies think? Can you Imagine their shock at hearing your Pizmonim set to a hip hop beat? Or brothas rapping verses from the Torah?You might intermarry with the Schwartza and then your hair will REALLY be kinky! You know Black ppl are always searching for the true religion? We tried Christianity-- but it is too bigotted! (cont)

[Animosity2UandU]

@Animosity2UandU We have tried Islam but it is too repressive (and most Black ppl are not into blowing themselves to bits!). Now you are offering up Judaism. BE AFRAID - BE VERY AFRAID! LOL

[izri1]

Stinking jew terrorists will abide in hell for eternall.Thats Gods promise to them for rejecting the truth that was sent down by God.

[00MORDRED1]

is that a gun on his side??

[panzercalva]

Greetings to Samaria! Keep spreading the Truth!

[mahender6969]

I am not sure, but not just anyone can be convert to jewish, you have to be well educated, good family back ground, and stander of living also counts.

[ubbddu]

בס"ד

דרכיה דרכי נעם.

[LinkKaiba]

please dont spread the torah! its a step back towards caverns and immorality , the torah is just a desert fairy tale which barbaric laws, if you dont believe me read it! (stone people to death for working on the sabarh, for not worshiping the abrahamic god, forcing women to marry their rapist, stoning teenagers to death, having slaves, etc)

[Globalfaction]

Synagogue of Satan!!!

[abuzinnar]

This guy's enthusiasm for Judaism is admirable. Everybody should be so gung ho. But where does he get that it's a mitzvah to proselytize? Gentiles can be just as righteous without being Jewish. And they only have to keep 7 mitzvos instead of 613.

[d4rkher0]

Bigotry!

[SoloQ]

You are awesome omed. Thanks for the explanation.

[omedyashar]

There's absolutely no doubt that we're obligated to teach the nations the Laws of Noah, which is the bare minimum. This is an explicit halakha... and a non-Israelite who chooses to uphold these laws because the Almighty commanded him -- he is a convert to our faith, even if he didn't undergo "full-conversion" so as to become obligated in all 613 commandments. And it is clear in halakha that the Laws of Noah are the MINIMUM... not the ideal.

[omedyashar]

But the thing is, unlike in other 'Abrahamic faiths,' we don't teach that one MUST fully join us (become obligated in 613 as an Israelite) in order to have a place in the world to come and be righteous before the Almighty. Yet, my personal inclination is that most people who'ld be careful and devout in observance of the Laws of Noah, would want to fully convert if they're able, or at least volunatrily take on extra commandments...

[omedyashar]

...As knowledge and love for Him grows, likewise the desire to carry out His commands.

[123col321]

its not true, judaism does not encourage converts one can convert but its not what we try to do keeping the nohide laws is enough

[pakijew4]

@123col321 ...u looking half glass empty , rather half glass full....show me where torah discourage conversion....

[omedyashar]

I don't know any source which says that we must persue making the nations undergo "full-conversion" in the sense of becoming obligated in all 613 commandments as a native-born Israelite,... but there are clear halakhoth (generally unknown or ignored), that WHEN a non-Jew desires to become an Israelite, we should NOT discourage him too much, lest he turn from the good path that he is on. We are to teach him a FEW difficult commandments (to test his sincerity), and NOT elaborate on this,...

[omedyashar]

and we are to teach him the principles of monotheism, AND ELABORATE ON THIS. (Certainly wasn't done in my case, lol).

And it says in that a non-Israelite who decides to be circumcised (in context of conversion), if he lets a year pass without being circumcised, it is AS IF he is an apostate among the nations... AND HE DIDN'T EVEN COMPLETE THE CONVERSION! Also it says that "Torah is the inheritance of... one who [merely] DESIRES to become an Israelite."

[omedyashar]

Give the Talmudic source text for this claim, please.

[omedyashar]

Even if the common perspective is true, that it's forbidden to actively persue convincing people to undergo "full-conversion" (for lack of better words in English), that they become obligated in all 613 commandments... there is absolutely NO basis for saying it is forbidden to seek out converts to our FAITH -- historical biblical monotheism. There is even an explicit halakha that we are to drive the nations to uphold the Laws of Noah... this is a MINIMUM.

[omedyashar]

MANY poskim hold that the prohibition against non-Jews learning Torah ONLY applies to idolatrous enemies of Israel... but that properly monotheistic non-Israelites who respect Israel and want to learn from Torah, can be taught.

And it is an explicit halakha that a non-Jew who keeps the Laws of Noah can choose to keep additional Torah commandments as well, and they'll have reward for this in the next-world.

[SoloQ]

You know, this is the only religion I find straighforward and the closest to mine.

Being a Muslim all my life, I find it has many similarities between Islam and Judaism while several differences as well.

I have/had thoughts of converting and I don't think it is possible for me with the depression and lack of energy I have to revert to Judaism seeing how all my relatives are all Muslims would really disown me.

And yes, I think the Torah is not corrupt as opposed to what the Quran says.

[omedyashar]

Regardless of whether or not the Quran was divinely revealed to Muhammad, when I read the many places where Quran refers to Torah... and to Jews taking out its words (or similar terminology), I find this terminology REMARKABLY similar to what the Quran says about some people doing to the words of the Quran itself... in fact, I'm fairly convinced from the context that the intention in these passages is NOT that they corrupted Torah, but that its words were twisted out ('taken out') of context.

[omedyashar]

But whatever the case, the Almighty did not command the people of Israel to uphold the commandments of Torah "FOREVER, in all your generations..." only to turn around and forbid upholding these same commandments, as most Muslims think. And its baseless to think Jews added these words to Torah. The rebellion of Israelites throughout history has been to abandon commandments, not uphold them forever. Had they corrupted the text, they would have removed the many appearances of the word "forever.."

[omedyashar]

...and the command in Torah to uphold the Torah commandments "forever" -- is NOT lacking in ANY of the ancient manuscripts of Torah (or the rest of Hebrew Bible)... whether in Hebrew or in ancient translations (Greek, Aramaic, Latin, Ge'ez, Arabic...)

There is no doubt in this matter.

And IF the Torah had been corrupted, if the Quran still be revealed, could not Torah likewise be restored & revealed again?

And IF He allowed His Word, Torah, to be utterly corrupted, why not Quran too?

[bengabler]

your so right...

the days before the New Year are an "et ratzon" a time of desire.

Desiring what?

Purely desiring to be Jewish.

This is applicable to Jews and non-Jews alike.

[omedyashar]

Awesome point. Very interesting.