I don't think they're addicted, I mean they are leeches they've gamed the system, the vast majority of that 1% are not contributing anything great to humanity yet they reap the rewards.
This is probably one of the most well made videos about this issue and I don't have a clue why the video is titled bad analogy, because it's one of the better analogies I have heard.
Spot on. Hell, our last president was an addict. Notice: I didn't say, "recovering." What you describe is exactly what's happening. Been there; done that; bought the tee shirt; burned it.
This is a semi-accurate assessment. A few modifications: The Son actually OWNS his mother and has corrupted her very nearly beyond all redemption. A closer analogy would be that they are BOTH full-blown tweakers, now - and have all the guns in the house stockpiled in their bedrooms...as well as attack dogs and a cadre of cult disciples they pay for 'security.'
BTW: you're right about capitalism in your reply to laughingblades above - it's people who kill people, not guns...
@TheMercilessEye In a way all of the children are supposed to "own" the parent. But the parasite ends up "owning" all of them, one at a time. The one most fully controlled by the parasite, becomes the dominent one.
@DonQuixotedeKaw :T sadly, agreed. I'd always hoped we'd grown beyond such dynamics, but as you've pointed out previously, our national security has been compromised via the decline in educational standards. I don't know if it's quite as bleak a picture as you paint yet - I hope not - but it is getting worse, no question. Though created to supply 'intelligent labor,' national education needs to encompass more. I like Sir Ken Robinson's take on it: watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
@Laughingblades I don't believe that. I believe the driving force behind most social ills is human fallibility and anyone who tells u different is selling you a scapegoat. Societies will always be in constant flux and humanity must adjust and adapt to that flux. But humans are lazy. They get comfy & don't want to change or self examine so they sell u an "ism" to embrace as a "savior" or an "ism" to blame for all your problems. Don't buy it.
@Lblades 2~ When I see an anti-capitalist blaming capitalism for the problems of the world I see someone who is not much different from a capitalist trying to blame "socialism" for the problems of the world.
This happens a lot, when people try to use a word or phrase to identify a large scale problem, that is actually many small scale problems that have similarities. For instance, many atheists play an antitheistic role, in a misled belief that "religion" is the font of all ill. Because it's too hard to explain that their blanket term is harmful, I try to offer a less harmful blanket term for the problem; Theocracy. That too, is not right enough, but it far less of a misdirection.
As you said, the same goes for other terms like addiction, gambling, parasite, predator, prey, victim blaming, capitalism, socialism, democracy, freedom, corporatism and government, to name but a few. In the desire for expediency to express entire concepts in abrieviated forms, on a daily basis, we all masacre our only tool of civility, and attempts to fruitfully communicate, become moot. Years ago, I labeled this phenominon; Quixote's Irony.
This is why attacks on the competency of our national education standards, that started long ago, are actually attacks on our national security. I have misused another blanket phrase, and called this educational degradation, a steath jihad, because the damage won't be felt for years, or even decades. But we feel it now, in a common level of lingual incompetence. There are no more means of universal communication, like the tower of Babel fable, it's interactively nonsensical.
@Divinity33372 That is a very simplistic interpretation. Simply equating opposites isn't very insightful. One thing you will find is that generally speaking, the people who criticize capitalism have more intricate understanding of capital that its advocates do. Moreover, the FOX News types who blame socialism for everything don't seem to understand socialism OR capitalism. The criticisms of capitalism don't require a "saviour" to be sound. They stand on their own.
@Divinity33372 Capitalism facilitates those human failings, the systems of labor and distribution of wealth in a society effects it in many ways, cooperatives produce better and healthier societies than top down private ownership of the workplace and the means of labor.
@Laughingblades There's an interim-alternative: Employee-owned companies. The amount of success such organizations enjoy has, thus far, proven to be very impressive. But yes, you're right: capitalism facilitates the corruption, since, at it's core, capitalism is a corrupt game: it's socially-sanctioned theft, in which the seller/provider has no obligation to reveal the percentage of markup to the buyer/consumer.
@TheMercilessEye The Mondragon Cooperative Corporation employees over 10,000 people and grosses over $24 billion a year, leading Spain in several areas of cutting edge research. The reason you're unimpressed is because in most countries employee ownership has been mostly in produce and food markets, most people don't even know about the employee management model so you don't see many companies trying it. Plus it's less than a century old.
@Laughingblades Hmm...actually, I'm quite impressed by that. I'll have to look them up - thanks for the excellent example.
Yes, the employee mgmt/ownership model is still relatively new - I'm hoping to see much more of it, as time goes on, should capitalism be allowed to persist...
@TheMercilessEye If the Unions in America ever get wind of it and get a few charismatic leaders getting it off the ground here with Co-Op federations there's no telling how far it could go in the US. I think the Unions are about fed up asking for better treatment from big business owners and multinational corporations.
@Laughingblades Heh. Well, the Unions have been corrupted by the same snake-oil, in many cases. Everyone at the top is a materialistic tweaker, these days, it seems...with a very few exceptions. These are, indeed, very interesting times.
@Laughingblades Hey now, the U.S. aint so bad; "Nearly 30,000 U.S. cooperatives operate at 73,000 places of business throughout the U.S. These cooperatives own more than $3T in assets, and generate more than $500B in revenue and more than $25B in wages." I've been waiting for the University of Wisconsin Center for Cooperatives to come out with their list of all U.S. cooperatives, maybe I should contact them to see if they have yet or when they will, it's been some time since I looked into this.
@WorkerOwned Yeah that's good but, that's all the co-ops combined, in the US a lot of the Co-Ops are farmer, construction, and steel Co-Ops, and a lot of them are along the west coast. Not enough people know about them yet, I'd like to see it get to the point that more cooperatives taking over private companies or running them out of business, because when cooperatives have a strong presence in the community, it's pretty much good for the whole community.
@Laughingblades Yeah, I believe that happened with Union Cab of Madison Cooperative Inc. Of course, I'm not sure what you mean by "taking over" or "running them out of business" but as long as it's legal and respects private property then it's fine with me. I'd much rather see them build their own and promote it as such. When I talk to people about Co-op's they look at me like I'm speaking a different language.
@TheMercilessEye I agree about capitalism, it's time we move past this model that siphons money to the top and keeps the working class poor. It was designed by aristocrats to preserve the aristocracy while giving the peasants the illusion of freedom, long before the term Capitalism was ever coined for the system, and it's been pretty much proven that a more even distribution of wealth leads to a healthier society.
@Laughingblades Definitely agree that the even distribution of wealth promotes healthy societal growth. Capitalism could work if there were still provision for a solid moral compass, enlightened self-interest and the regulation necessary to safeguard the rights of all - but unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, those factors have been eroded to the point of being vestigial. What's left is what we have now - and it's come to a head faster than even I imagined it would, years ago...
@Divinity33372 I agree to a certain extent , but the social ills of society are directly the product of greed, If we lived in a free society nature would weed out the undesirable people so that everyone would contribute love to the earth. As it stands right now Greed is the motivator. Why would you need to escape if you were free, Tell me how can a company take a patent on a living organism or how do you own land? And Thanks to greed we have developed some of the best most addicting drugs
@Mystery207 There is only one way to skin a cat. Yes people fear change but lazy is development of our corporate lives we live under with pills for health TV for entertainment! I believe all this would not be the case if we did not live in this corporate world where you need paper money to be somebody! Not everybody can be a lawyer and earn six figures. I hope this is as stimulating as your videos are thought provoking,
Interesting idea. You could be right about their being gambling addicts. Since by law profit is all that matters, you could say that the system itself is a gambling addict.
This story is a bit of a somber reminder of years past. I guess I would be the example of the younger child in the story made to go with out the necessities or support. When I did stand up the "Laura"of the story. The "Laura" ended up making me into the scapegoat for all the problems we had as a family and in turn the target of "her" "anger". Whenever "Lara" did lashed out about "her", It was usually in my direction This is also happen to the 99% if the analogy holds..
I don't think they're addicted, I mean they are leeches they've gamed the system, the vast majority of that 1% are not contributing anything great to humanity yet they reap the rewards.
PerpetualTiredness 3 months ago
We need to help people like this,.and put them somewhare they can get off the money. The worst of all addictions.
It is a drug. Look at how crazy they got, when they fucked up and made bad bets.
Div. you are the best woman. : )
krapptacular 3 months ago
Addiction is no more a disease than off is a TV channel.
IzzySpeaks 3 months ago
This is probably one of the most well made videos about this issue and I don't have a clue why the video is titled bad analogy, because it's one of the better analogies I have heard.
Eceoes 3 months ago
Great video, Div. Excellent analogy.
kelliko70 3 months ago
Thank you.
Now I know that you've understood what I've been saying.
Well done. Bravo!
DonQuixotedeKaw 3 months ago
Spot on. Hell, our last president was an addict. Notice: I didn't say, "recovering." What you describe is exactly what's happening. Been there; done that; bought the tee shirt; burned it.
rriverstone1 3 months ago
Good analogy
Redpilldown 3 months ago
Beautiful analogy, Div. Thanks for posting this.
skeletonmom 3 months ago
Favorited. Great video.
wideosvatcher 3 months ago
i thought it was a pretty good analogy :-)
NurdyDancing 3 months ago
This is a semi-accurate assessment. A few modifications: The Son actually OWNS his mother and has corrupted her very nearly beyond all redemption. A closer analogy would be that they are BOTH full-blown tweakers, now - and have all the guns in the house stockpiled in their bedrooms...as well as attack dogs and a cadre of cult disciples they pay for 'security.'
BTW: you're right about capitalism in your reply to laughingblades above - it's people who kill people, not guns...
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
@TheMercilessEye In a way all of the children are supposed to "own" the parent. But the parasite ends up "owning" all of them, one at a time. The one most fully controlled by the parasite, becomes the dominent one.
DonQuixotedeKaw 3 months ago
@DonQuixotedeKaw :T sadly, agreed. I'd always hoped we'd grown beyond such dynamics, but as you've pointed out previously, our national security has been compromised via the decline in educational standards. I don't know if it's quite as bleak a picture as you paint yet - I hope not - but it is getting worse, no question. Though created to supply 'intelligent labor,' national education needs to encompass more. I like Sir Ken Robinson's take on it: watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
The driving force behind most of our social ills is capitalism :/
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades I don't believe that. I believe the driving force behind most social ills is human fallibility and anyone who tells u different is selling you a scapegoat. Societies will always be in constant flux and humanity must adjust and adapt to that flux. But humans are lazy. They get comfy & don't want to change or self examine so they sell u an "ism" to embrace as a "savior" or an "ism" to blame for all your problems. Don't buy it.
Divinity33372 3 months ago
@Lblades 2~ When I see an anti-capitalist blaming capitalism for the problems of the world I see someone who is not much different from a capitalist trying to blame "socialism" for the problems of the world.
Divinity33372 3 months ago
@Divinity33372
#1
This happens a lot, when people try to use a word or phrase to identify a large scale problem, that is actually many small scale problems that have similarities. For instance, many atheists play an antitheistic role, in a misled belief that "religion" is the font of all ill. Because it's too hard to explain that their blanket term is harmful, I try to offer a less harmful blanket term for the problem; Theocracy. That too, is not right enough, but it far less of a misdirection.
DonQuixotedeKaw 3 months ago
@Divinity33372
#2
As you said, the same goes for other terms like addiction, gambling, parasite, predator, prey, victim blaming, capitalism, socialism, democracy, freedom, corporatism and government, to name but a few. In the desire for expediency to express entire concepts in abrieviated forms, on a daily basis, we all masacre our only tool of civility, and attempts to fruitfully communicate, become moot. Years ago, I labeled this phenominon; Quixote's Irony.
DonQuixotedeKaw 3 months ago
@Divinity33372
#3
This is why attacks on the competency of our national education standards, that started long ago, are actually attacks on our national security. I have misused another blanket phrase, and called this educational degradation, a steath jihad, because the damage won't be felt for years, or even decades. But we feel it now, in a common level of lingual incompetence. There are no more means of universal communication, like the tower of Babel fable, it's interactively nonsensical.
DonQuixotedeKaw 3 months ago
@Divinity33372 That is a very simplistic interpretation. Simply equating opposites isn't very insightful. One thing you will find is that generally speaking, the people who criticize capitalism have more intricate understanding of capital that its advocates do. Moreover, the FOX News types who blame socialism for everything don't seem to understand socialism OR capitalism. The criticisms of capitalism don't require a "saviour" to be sound. They stand on their own.
no2religions 3 months ago
@Divinity33372 Capitalism facilitates those human failings, the systems of labor and distribution of wealth in a society effects it in many ways, cooperatives produce better and healthier societies than top down private ownership of the workplace and the means of labor.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades There's an interim-alternative: Employee-owned companies. The amount of success such organizations enjoy has, thus far, proven to be very impressive. But yes, you're right: capitalism facilitates the corruption, since, at it's core, capitalism is a corrupt game: it's socially-sanctioned theft, in which the seller/provider has no obligation to reveal the percentage of markup to the buyer/consumer.
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
@TheMercilessEye The Mondragon Cooperative Corporation employees over 10,000 people and grosses over $24 billion a year, leading Spain in several areas of cutting edge research. The reason you're unimpressed is because in most countries employee ownership has been mostly in produce and food markets, most people don't even know about the employee management model so you don't see many companies trying it. Plus it's less than a century old.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades Hmm...actually, I'm quite impressed by that. I'll have to look them up - thanks for the excellent example.
Yes, the employee mgmt/ownership model is still relatively new - I'm hoping to see much more of it, as time goes on, should capitalism be allowed to persist...
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
@TheMercilessEye If the Unions in America ever get wind of it and get a few charismatic leaders getting it off the ground here with Co-Op federations there's no telling how far it could go in the US. I think the Unions are about fed up asking for better treatment from big business owners and multinational corporations.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades Heh. Well, the Unions have been corrupted by the same snake-oil, in many cases. Everyone at the top is a materialistic tweaker, these days, it seems...with a very few exceptions. These are, indeed, very interesting times.
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
@Laughingblades Hey now, the U.S. aint so bad; "Nearly 30,000 U.S. cooperatives operate at 73,000 places of business throughout the U.S. These cooperatives own more than $3T in assets, and generate more than $500B in revenue and more than $25B in wages." I've been waiting for the University of Wisconsin Center for Cooperatives to come out with their list of all U.S. cooperatives, maybe I should contact them to see if they have yet or when they will, it's been some time since I looked into this.
WorkerOwned 3 months ago
@WorkerOwned Yeah that's good but, that's all the co-ops combined, in the US a lot of the Co-Ops are farmer, construction, and steel Co-Ops, and a lot of them are along the west coast. Not enough people know about them yet, I'd like to see it get to the point that more cooperatives taking over private companies or running them out of business, because when cooperatives have a strong presence in the community, it's pretty much good for the whole community.
:) Make snazzy Pro Co-Op videos!!! :D
Laughingblades 3 months ago
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@Laughingblades Yeah, I believe that happened with Union Cab of Madison Cooperative Inc. Of course, I'm not sure what you mean by "taking over" or "running them out of business" but as long as it's legal and respects private property then it's fine with me. I'd much rather see them build their own and promote it as such. When I talk to people about Co-op's they look at me like I'm speaking a different language.
WorkerOwned 3 months ago
@WorkerOwned When you finish that list, let me know: I'm VERY interested.
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
@TheMercilessEye I agree about capitalism, it's time we move past this model that siphons money to the top and keeps the working class poor. It was designed by aristocrats to preserve the aristocracy while giving the peasants the illusion of freedom, long before the term Capitalism was ever coined for the system, and it's been pretty much proven that a more even distribution of wealth leads to a healthier society.
Laughingblades 3 months ago
@Laughingblades Definitely agree that the even distribution of wealth promotes healthy societal growth. Capitalism could work if there were still provision for a solid moral compass, enlightened self-interest and the regulation necessary to safeguard the rights of all - but unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, those factors have been eroded to the point of being vestigial. What's left is what we have now - and it's come to a head faster than even I imagined it would, years ago...
TheMercilessEye 3 months ago
@Divinity33372 This is a great answer :)
tattooskin72 3 months ago
@Divinity33372 I agree to a certain extent , but the social ills of society are directly the product of greed, If we lived in a free society nature would weed out the undesirable people so that everyone would contribute love to the earth. As it stands right now Greed is the motivator. Why would you need to escape if you were free, Tell me how can a company take a patent on a living organism or how do you own land? And Thanks to greed we have developed some of the best most addicting drugs
Mystery207 3 months ago
@Mystery207 There is only one way to skin a cat. Yes people fear change but lazy is development of our corporate lives we live under with pills for health TV for entertainment! I believe all this would not be the case if we did not live in this corporate world where you need paper money to be somebody! Not everybody can be a lawyer and earn six figures. I hope this is as stimulating as your videos are thought provoking,
Mystery207 3 months ago
@Laughingblades yes.
no2religions 3 months ago
Pretty freakin damn awesome and original.
Wow.
xxxild 3 months ago
Indeed, just say no! :-D
Bad analogy? I think it was spot on. Peace.
mojosideburns 3 months ago
This is the the most accurate analogy to this sitch that I have ever heard.
I knew exactly where you were going a third way through, and I was on the edge of my seat waiting for the twist.
Can I PLEASE mirror this???!!!
AtomicDaytime 3 months ago
@AtomicDaytime Of course my friend.
Divinity33372 3 months ago
Interesting idea. You could be right about their being gambling addicts. Since by law profit is all that matters, you could say that the system itself is a gambling addict.
thethegreenmachine 3 months ago
This story is a bit of a somber reminder of years past. I guess I would be the example of the younger child in the story made to go with out the necessities or support. When I did stand up the "Laura"of the story. The "Laura" ended up making me into the scapegoat for all the problems we had as a family and in turn the target of "her" "anger". Whenever "Lara" did lashed out about "her", It was usually in my direction This is also happen to the 99% if the analogy holds..
ithkul 3 months ago
@ithkul ((HUG))
Divinity33372 3 months ago
Brilliant presentation
inspirediam 3 months ago
@inspirediam Thank you hun.
Divinity33372 3 months ago