Ableton Live Tutorial How to use Logic Pro Mainstage as a plugin via Soundflower

[mbreeson]

how do you avoid the rewire conflict?

[mbreeson]

in other words: how do you avoid rewire from being activated when you load up both programs (ableton and mainstage)

[coldwaraaron]

Dude loosen up on your noise gate settings next time.

[DubStepClass]

my last post is the continuation of the post which precedes it.

[DubStepClass]

then as i played more it was as if someone were turning up the samples on the crusher. and now as i am typing it sounds fine but with extremely high latency. any suggestions bud?

[DubStepClass]

Hey guy... this is a very brilliant tutorial but i have a serious concern. got my setup perfect down to the last detail yet from ableton i am getting a very distorted version of whats coming out of mainstage (sonds like mainstage is being digitally down-sampled or bit crushed). so i restarted the whole system and low and behold it worked perfect, no latency, perfect sound.

[portessa]

I need to study this video extensively so I can record MainStage in either Reason 6 or Pro Tools 10 as they are what I use most.

[freesoulvw]

@2xtrbo if he'd used the same interface as you would it show 4 channels? Also doesn't Soundflower come in two different modes,the 2 chnl or 16 chnl? I'm just trying this stuff out myself. Thought I'd throw in a comment.

[freesoulvw]

@2xtrbo maybe the interface he uses has 16 in/outs were yours only has 4? Just a thought

[2xtrbo]

On the external instrument in ableton, how did you make your aggregate audio device as 13 and 14? My aggregate device consists of Soundflower and my M-Audio Profire 610 so in the external instrument dropdown for audio I see only the 4 outs from my mixer.

[learnMax]

@2xtrbo in the aggregate device my ultranova is 1&2, my VS-100 is 3-12 and SoundFlower (2 channel) is 13&14, as you aggregate sound drivers they add up.

[eastparkreggae]

can't get the external instrument track to record audio - just midi. so when i change my mainstage patch, the bit i've just recorded changes too. aargh. help!

[learnMax]

@eastparkreggae if you want to record the audio from the track you can do that routing in ableton from one track to another. The mainstage track only records MIDI since I want to use Mainstage just as I would a MIDI synth.

[jackyangmusic]

Ok, I've been at this for about 6 hours now and I just can't seem to get it right. I also keep getting midi Loop messages from MS (MainStage). Do I need to fire up MS first, or doesn't that matter? I went into Live Pref. Audio and switched from my Interface (Saffire Pro40) to soundflower. When I did this I actually got a signal read in my MS track in live but it was light blue in all tracks and there was no sound. I get this same reaction when I forget to choose my interface in Live.

[learnMax]

@jackyangmusic the order you launch them in shouldn't matter, but remember you are sending MIDI to mainstage and getting audio back from it. If you're getting a MIDI loop you must be routing MIDI back from mainstage somehow.

[DubStepClass]

hell yeah brother good lookin' out!

[zootvd]

What are your MIDI preferences like in Ableton? Can't seem to get it to work for me... I keep getting MIDI loop messages from Mainstage.

[xxxrandomjamezxxx]

Nice job, keep it up :)

[stoersignal25]

same for me, always wanted ultrabeat and es2 in live, but never thought about mainstage, great!

have no possibility to try it now, but i think it needs much less than logic itself?

thank you!

and maybe remember to take a look at my m4l patch please!!!

[TheExplodingBit]

Nice tutorial. So far I've just been sampling Logic's synths using an auto sampler and using them in Live but this often doesn't capture the sound of patches with lots of modulation, and such, very well. I mostly use Logic and Soundtrack Pro but this made me want to try Mainstage again. I'm going to try to get this working via the IAC driver and a physical S/PDIF connection. Thanks. Cheers!

[learnMax]

@TheExplodingBit good point! Physically routing audio and MIDI is certainly a viable option too!

[TheExplodingBit]

@learnMax It should work just as well. Again, thanks for the heads-up on Mainstage. I've been trying to find an optimal way to intermingle Live and bits of Logic and this video really helped. Previously, I'd overlooked Mainstage. Very cool. Thanks.

[TheExplodingBit]

@TheExplodingBit Meaning, not having to Rewire Live into Logic, by the way.