not really, I saw them quite a bit when cove first came on and he was covering a lot of anthony's songs and he couldn't really then. It may have just been because he was trying to scream high pitched though...
Keep Secrets, like many other songs, were demos, which turned into a different final "version" for the album. Same with Uphill Battle -> On My Own, although I prefer Uphill Battle.
@XxDeceptoRxX okay, but it made us compare both of the songs each other. many of us even like the previous version although the album version actually are the perfection attempt. in this case, i give an example for "bury your head" (old & new)
@XxDeceptoRxX yea uphill battle was a good demo. Keep secrets sounds a little better thought but thats my perception. Sounds like Alex didn't have much practice on this song. Bass sounds a little off tempo sometimes oh well he is still beast and the best drummer in the world
but alex is more than "fast," he's amazingly technical and pretty original. its pretty hard to argue that if he's not the best(which is really a matter of opinion) then he's definitely one of the top in this current generation of music
well i'll agree to that. i mean yes, he's original and all that and i'm sure he's great at what he does. personally, his drumming isn't my cup of tea. i just think he adds too much. there's a time and a place to go crazy and all that. i mean i love saosin, but sometimes i just wonder how the songs would sound if there was less stuff going on with drums.
thats the thing though! a saosin is just not the same without some insane drumming! pat(the original drummer) basically laid the foundation for any future saosin drummer on translating the name. he went insane on songs such as seven years and lost symphonies. alex basically has no choice but to basically keep it going, and now he's taking it to the next level
But see thats the point! No anthony = NO COVE!! Saosin would not have been without Anthony, so no one would have ever seen Cove because there would never have been SAOSIN! You get me. Anthony started this band, so you really have to give credit where credit is given.
I think circa and current saosin are both amazing in their own ways. as far as skill goes saosin is winning. haha
alex rodriquez can pull the whole band by himself, then the guitarists are amazing too. circa really isn't on the amazing side because all the effects they use along with anthony's lyrics
Circa is by far one of the most inventive indie bands out there right now. All of the "effects" are natural tones of the guitar with pedals! And the drummer in my opinion holds his own quite well against Alex, being a drummer I should know haha! A lot of the things that the Circa drummer does are far more complex then what Alex does!
I think someone needs to REALLY listen to there circa cds. But I realize circa is not everyones cup of tea!
i know the effects are pedals, i've seen circa live, the guitarist's pedal board's are INSANE. , if you watch the documentery on saosin's myspace about them making the self titled, you can truly see how skilled beau, chris and justin are, some things are just ridiculous. but maybe i'm overstepping my bounds with the circa thing, i haven't listened THAT much in detail, but i will say i am stoked for the circa/saosin tour. :)
The Skylit Drive drummer is SOOOO generic and just, well plain. I really do not know what you see in him, he is nothing special. Yes I agree Alex is talented but CORY??? There are countless drummers that tear cory apart in terms of skills.
Generic??? he is one of the most creative drummers out there! he hardly ever does just a straight beat and everything he does is really good and unique. Its really obvious, because the style and way A skylit Drive play makes him have to be creative.
Yea not generic, just not original thats what I meat. There are a million other drummers like him out there. Drummers I am thinking of are like the Thrice drummer, Emarosa drummer, Misery Signals drummer, Valentino who was in Lower Definition (now in Of Mice and Men),Oh, Sleeper drummer (new one!), the guy in Texas in July, the guy in This or the Apocalypse and OF COURSE Matt Grenier from August Burns Red.
And just because he hardly ever does just a straight beat does not make him unique!
Idk I mean its really hard to say anyone is original cuz there are sooo many drummers out there. And when they all play in the same circle of music styles the drumming is always gonna be similar. But your right all those drummers are sick, I just stick with my opinion that I reallylike Corey cuz he is really good and there is no debating that. But hands down Alex Rodriguez is my favorite drummer.
those drummers are all sick but alex is good because he can do so many different styles of dumming like in fireflies, voices, your not alones, keep secrets, all different styles of drumming
the drummers I mentioned can too. I hope you know the difference between style and texture! Cause all of the songs you mentioned are the same style of music. They are just softer and harder versions of rock. Styles of drumming is like rock, jazz gospel.If you think about it, the guy from Thrice is the only one out of everyone everyone mentioned that plays different styles!But I never was attacking Alex, I think he is amazing, I was saying that the guy from A Skylit drive is not that great!
Totally agree. Riley Breckenridge of Thrice, as well as all of Thrice, is probably one of the most important and inovative bands of the late 1990s and 2000s!
dude stop hating and wishing shit was "the way it used to be" It's the same shit as it was before. I love the way the new shit sounds. Can't wait for the album, stop being fucking retarded
Dude have you heard the ENTIRE new album? Because I have and I will tell you straight up its NOTHING like the self titled album. All the songs are slowed down and only like 2 songs really sound like self titled saosin. The Worst of Me and Is this Real.
I have definitly lost some respect for Saosin. Its really too bad because the self titled was such a great album. I think they just hit their "Sophmore Slump". I think their 3rd album will be better haha!
Oh and for anyone who is wondering how I have it, I work at a radio station and got an advanced copy of it. Ed I saw you post before it was removed, so is that verification enough?
And I am actually named after the band Rush haha!
But my real name is Evan, their serious enough????
michaelalvarado12607, you are a genius. I've been thinking that same exact thing. Their music and singing was better. They almost seem like they don't know what they're doing anymore and that they don't work as a team.
lol thanks dude, its really sad because they used to be fucking awesome, even with cove! He needs to go back to his old styles, and i also think part of it is the fact that they got a studio with a producer
you haven't been to the detroit one. spencer from underoath got hit in the face with a shoe, constant water and stuff being thrown on stage. alexisonfire got pissed off about it and said detroits the worst about it.
i don't understand why bands like saosin and senses fail who played main stages in previous years have "shrunk" back to the smaller hurley and smartpunk stages
yeah there's 2 stages there even though it's actually just 1 stage. I didn't even know where it was in the beginning I thought the way to the amp was the exit =_=
dead peeps
stephencarlmagno 9 months ago
Drummers killlliin it
xxTaylorJamesxx 10 months ago
holy crap the guitars sound amazing
theused4lifebaby 1 year ago
The only bad thing is the singing and screaming, sorry cobe.
theresed1 1 year ago
THis is "Keep Secrets" fyi
Imamonkee108 1 year ago
they're coming to Australia with Story Of The Year and Blessthefall :)
adaytorememberrr 1 year ago
ah, how cute... cove learned how to scream
noestabien 2 years ago
cove could scream before
ForagingForFood 1 year ago
not really, I saw them quite a bit when cove first came on and he was covering a lot of anthony's songs and he couldn't really then. It may have just been because he was trying to scream high pitched though...
noestabien 1 year ago
why must they made two version of this song (keep secrets & i keep...)????
freakyholic 2 years ago
Keep Secrets, like many other songs, were demos, which turned into a different final "version" for the album. Same with Uphill Battle -> On My Own, although I prefer Uphill Battle.
XxDeceptoRxX 2 years ago
@XxDeceptoRxX okay, but it made us compare both of the songs each other. many of us even like the previous version although the album version actually are the perfection attempt. in this case, i give an example for "bury your head" (old & new)
freakyholic 2 years ago
@XxDeceptoRxX yea uphill battle was a good demo. Keep secrets sounds a little better thought but thats my perception. Sounds like Alex didn't have much practice on this song. Bass sounds a little off tempo sometimes oh well he is still beast and the best drummer in the world
SuperBrandango 1 year ago
@XxDeceptoRxX and Love Maker, which on the actual CD was called The Worst Of Me
MLBplaya64 1 year ago
the bass lines are so much more creative and better on the new album..so rightious
hockeyhardcore 2 years ago
fuck ya this song rocks, and cove's scream is badass as hell in the 2nd half
carrythezero3 2 years ago
i like saosin's drummer...they're great..record or live...they make the songs alive...very energetic
kawaisue 2 years ago 2
@kawaisue yea your right but at 1:15 it sounds like he messed up or something. Could be camera though.
SuperBrandango 1 year ago
hes fast but if ever listne to his beats? there awesome
for example listen to new angel
chrnstr 2 years ago
just because a drummer is fast, does not make him the best.
BREAKthe5ILENCEx 2 years ago
true
but alex is more than "fast," he's amazingly technical and pretty original. its pretty hard to argue that if he's not the best(which is really a matter of opinion) then he's definitely one of the top in this current generation of music
chrism824 2 years ago 4
well i'll agree to that. i mean yes, he's original and all that and i'm sure he's great at what he does. personally, his drumming isn't my cup of tea. i just think he adds too much. there's a time and a place to go crazy and all that. i mean i love saosin, but sometimes i just wonder how the songs would sound if there was less stuff going on with drums.
BREAKthe5ILENCEx 2 years ago
thats the thing though! a saosin is just not the same without some insane drumming! pat(the original drummer) basically laid the foundation for any future saosin drummer on translating the name. he went insane on songs such as seven years and lost symphonies. alex basically has no choice but to basically keep it going, and now he's taking it to the next level
chrism824 2 years ago
@chrism824 i agree shit he has the best fills in the world. i mean i don't get how he dose it i just love it. Every song has bad ass fills in it
SuperBrandango 1 year ago
your right his good beats do.
xthetempestx 2 years ago
At 1:16 Alex messes up a bit! haha...
Anyway he's the best!
jaer1693 2 years ago
Haha! Maybe he broke a stick. He never messes up hahaha!
th3echelon89 2 years ago
coves gotten better live for sure
wtf1tzandy 2 years ago
i think the demo version was better than this one, but it's pretty cool.
rodanelcoolio 2 years ago
freaking great quality!!! what did you film with?
090101brad 2 years ago
Fujifilm Z20FD
XxDeceptoRxX 2 years ago
i agree it is great quality, you can actually hear the individual instruments and the singer, it's not all jumbled together. great job dude
rodanelcoolio 2 years ago
proof anthony green was holding saosin back with his hardcore esk music.
xninofm 2 years ago
Dude do not hate on Anthony Green. Soasion would not be even half of where or what they are now if it was not for Anthony.
rushour144 2 years ago
which is exactly why saosin is acheiving so much more in the time with cove then then with anythony.
xninofm 2 years ago
But see thats the point! No anthony = NO COVE!! Saosin would not have been without Anthony, so no one would have ever seen Cove because there would never have been SAOSIN! You get me. Anthony started this band, so you really have to give credit where credit is given.
rushour144 2 years ago
I'll give him credit for starting the band,
never said i didn't. but saosin without anthony is much better, saosin with anthony was just another screamo band.
Cover truly makes a unique band.
xninofm 2 years ago
Honestly I agree with you!!!! Because Cove is perfect for Saosin.
And Anthony is perfect for Circa Survive... A FAR SUPERIOR BAND HAHAHAHAH!
No I think everything worked out in the end! Good debate dude haha!
rushour144 2 years ago 2
I think circa and current saosin are both amazing in their own ways. as far as skill goes saosin is winning. haha
alex rodriquez can pull the whole band by himself, then the guitarists are amazing too. circa really isn't on the amazing side because all the effects they use along with anthony's lyrics
xninofm 2 years ago
I will agree to disagree with you on that!!!!
Circa is by far one of the most inventive indie bands out there right now. All of the "effects" are natural tones of the guitar with pedals! And the drummer in my opinion holds his own quite well against Alex, being a drummer I should know haha! A lot of the things that the Circa drummer does are far more complex then what Alex does!
I think someone needs to REALLY listen to there circa cds. But I realize circa is not everyones cup of tea!
rushour144 2 years ago
i'm a drummer too
i know the effects are pedals, i've seen circa live, the guitarist's pedal board's are INSANE. , if you watch the documentery on saosin's myspace about them making the self titled, you can truly see how skilled beau, chris and justin are, some things are just ridiculous. but maybe i'm overstepping my bounds with the circa thing, i haven't listened THAT much in detail, but i will say i am stoked for the circa/saosin tour. :)
xninofm 2 years ago
HAHA thats awesome dude! Yea circa is crazy man!!!
I did not know saosin and circa are going to be touring. I am soooo going!!!
rushour144 2 years ago
The Only post hardcore drummer or drummersin this kinda music scene is Cory from A skylit Drive other than that Alex is the best mother fucker around
Saofan13 2 years ago
The Skylit Drive drummer is SOOOO generic and just, well plain. I really do not know what you see in him, he is nothing special. Yes I agree Alex is talented but CORY??? There are countless drummers that tear cory apart in terms of skills.
rushour144 2 years ago
Generic??? he is one of the most creative drummers out there! he hardly ever does just a straight beat and everything he does is really good and unique. Its really obvious, because the style and way A skylit Drive play makes him have to be creative.
Saofan13 2 years ago
Yea not generic, just not original thats what I meat. There are a million other drummers like him out there. Drummers I am thinking of are like the Thrice drummer, Emarosa drummer, Misery Signals drummer, Valentino who was in Lower Definition (now in Of Mice and Men),Oh, Sleeper drummer (new one!), the guy in Texas in July, the guy in This or the Apocalypse and OF COURSE Matt Grenier from August Burns Red.
And just because he hardly ever does just a straight beat does not make him unique!
rushour144 2 years ago
Idk I mean its really hard to say anyone is original cuz there are sooo many drummers out there. And when they all play in the same circle of music styles the drumming is always gonna be similar. But your right all those drummers are sick, I just stick with my opinion that I reallylike Corey cuz he is really good and there is no debating that. But hands down Alex Rodriguez is my favorite drummer.
Saofan13 2 years ago
Cory*
Saofan13 2 years ago
Thats fair man!!! Sorry for hasseling you haha, I forgot everyone has their right to their own opinion haha!
Stay safe man!
rushour144 2 years ago
HAHA no worries dude its YouTube no one should get that offfended.
And You too dude!
Saofan13 2 years ago
those drummers are all sick but alex is good because he can do so many different styles of dumming like in fireflies, voices, your not alones, keep secrets, all different styles of drumming
divineblobn8 2 years ago
the drummers I mentioned can too. I hope you know the difference between style and texture! Cause all of the songs you mentioned are the same style of music. They are just softer and harder versions of rock. Styles of drumming is like rock, jazz gospel.If you think about it, the guy from Thrice is the only one out of everyone everyone mentioned that plays different styles!But I never was attacking Alex, I think he is amazing, I was saying that the guy from A Skylit drive is not that great!
rushour144 2 years ago
thrice drummer>all else in my opinion
xthetempestx 2 years ago
Totally agree. Riley Breckenridge of Thrice, as well as all of Thrice, is probably one of the most important and inovative bands of the late 1990s and 2000s!
rushour144 2 years ago
basically, they have done like 5 different genres since their hardcore punk days
xthetempestx 2 years ago
Very true.
WokSz 2 years ago
matt mingus of dance gavin dance is good too
matt grenier from august burns red is one of the best
Circafade777 2 years ago
Alex Rodriguez kicks ass!
Saofan13 2 years ago
i like this new version!!!!!!!! good job saosin
w40318 2 years ago
dude stop hating and wishing shit was "the way it used to be" It's the same shit as it was before. I love the way the new shit sounds. Can't wait for the album, stop being fucking retarded
edcasey52 2 years ago
Dude have you heard the ENTIRE new album? Because I have and I will tell you straight up its NOTHING like the self titled album. All the songs are slowed down and only like 2 songs really sound like self titled saosin. The Worst of Me and Is this Real.
I have definitly lost some respect for Saosin. Its really too bad because the self titled was such a great album. I think they just hit their "Sophmore Slump". I think their 3rd album will be better haha!
The album cover is sick though!
rushour144 2 years ago
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edcasey52 2 years ago
Oh and for anyone who is wondering how I have it, I work at a radio station and got an advanced copy of it. Ed I saw you post before it was removed, so is that verification enough?
And I am actually named after the band Rush haha!
But my real name is Evan, their serious enough????
rushour144 2 years ago
great audio!
better song!
timownsmyass 2 years ago
oh and coves screaming alot better now :)
michaelalvarado12607 2 years ago
tbh he's still not as good as he sounds on record, regardless Sao is one of my fav bands.
XxDeceptoRxX 2 years ago
oh yeah for sure, but still i'm not sure all of there new stuff is good, i seriously think they should go back to their old style ya know?
i'm not saying everything has to sound like anthony's (saosin) style maybe like cove's (old) style. bury your head esqee stuff.
idk, i still like them just not as much as i used to, i actually think this is one of the better NEW songs.
michaelalvarado12607 2 years ago
michaelalvarado12607, you are a genius. I've been thinking that same exact thing. Their music and singing was better. They almost seem like they don't know what they're doing anymore and that they don't work as a team.
saosky182 2 years ago
lol thanks dude, its really sad because they used to be fucking awesome, even with cove! He needs to go back to his old styles, and i also think part of it is the fact that they got a studio with a producer
michaelalvarado12607 2 years ago
lol @ justin wearing a jersey! ahhhhh lol.
michaelalvarado12607 2 years ago
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This band should bring Anthony Green back...that way they wouldn't suck dick anymore.
Lumberjackowns 2 years ago
they cant XD hes in a band dumbs
PeopleWhoMakeVideos 2 years ago
I know, he's in Circa Survive...but that doesn't mean that he can't be in both bands...that would be so fucking sick!!!
Lumberjackowns 2 years ago
lol at 2:42 some jackass threw water, i would have beat that fuckers ass. lol wat a prick.
BettyWhitePwns 2 years ago
you haven't been to the detroit one. spencer from underoath got hit in the face with a shoe, constant water and stuff being thrown on stage. alexisonfire got pissed off about it and said detroits the worst about it.
BarbecuedPony 2 years ago
lol wow, seriously, who goes to concerts just to pick fights, wat a bunch of pricks.
BettyWhitePwns 2 years ago
yes they were even in an interview saying they changed the lyrics. ohh well still sounds good. Can't wait for the album
edcasey52 2 years ago
kk, it WAS Keep Secrets, I don't keep up w not yet released track names
XxDeceptoRxX 2 years ago
You're right with the title dude, it ain't secrets.
It's I keep my secrets safe.
Just search wikipedia the full tracklist is up xD
Awesome vid bro
44Jase44 2 years ago
this isnt keep secrets, its just secrets
awesomeCHESSE 2 years ago
This isn't "Keep Secrets". It's just called "secrets" now. They changed most of the lyrics and revised in for the new record.
warnerkb 2 years ago
i don't understand why bands like saosin and senses fail who played main stages in previous years have "shrunk" back to the smaller hurley and smartpunk stages
iamhollywood315 2 years ago 3
it's just because they only have one main stage now instead of two like they have in the past.
sethstrizait 2 years ago
ahh that explains it. cool man. do they split the stages under the big "amiptheatre" part ?
iamhollywood315 2 years ago
yeah there's 2 stages there even though it's actually just 1 stage. I didn't even know where it was in the beginning I thought the way to the amp was the exit =_=
XxDeceptoRxX 2 years ago
i was there too lol.
very front. :)
he gave me and my friend his monster when they left.
CH3L53A5BR00TAL 2 years ago
i was in that vid lol
JuiCyKabuse2FaygoMan 2 years ago