Well Oil be [Wheels on fire]!

[benskiproductions]

How did the wheel cacth fire?

[EWS60008]

I assume it was a "Hotbox" on the tanker?

[Rocketboy1950]

@EWS60008 Sticking brake, smoke pouring off both sides.

[sentineldg8]

great comments its nice to find out what realy happend thankyou

[mattenigmaevolution]

My local station! Why does nothing exciting like this happen when I use it? lol

[wiggydj100]

brill video, well done :)

[mikesndbs]

good reporting there mate, well done!

[theberengersniper]

Did you ever find out whether the passing commuter reported it, or did the driver himself see the smoke?

[PirateDomovoi]

See occasionally Youtube throws up gems...

[vickozoomba]

Thanks for the video :)

[offspringmadboy]

Looks like seized wheelset or brakes have jammed on.

[adamswindells1]

I think you may find that the brakes to that tanker had locked on & where burning out. the wheels werent actually on fire. the same happens to trucks when they go down hills near my road. firebrigade is allways called out just to be safe.

[Trainbuff2008]

I would of pointed it out to the driver

[Britlurker]

@Trainbuff2008 - very public spirited of you, now, how would you go about that?

[imautuber444]

2 dislikes? what the hell do people want?

[sparkygl0s]

@imautuber444

Flames maybe, instead of just smoke.

[imautuber444]

Extremely great catch, well done.

[carl2017]

This takes me back to when I was a firefighter and attended the derailment and fire of a tanker train at Bradford on Tone in the early 90's.

[sandletters39]

BR use to call the fire brigade when fire breaks out in its diesels due to the fact that unknown at the time, their engines were based on marine practises and weren't suitable for rail use due to inability to cope with motion on rails causing seals to loosen up and spillage of oil finding its way onto the braking systems where sparks fly.

[Nizical99]

Great video, what is the alarm in the background, is it the station fire alarm?

[cyclopsfilm]

@Nizical99 Certainly was coming from the station, guess they used it to get the "evacuate" message across!

[24765968]

how did the driver know there was a problem? did some one somehow raise the alarm?

[slypsi]

Hot Box or better still somebody left a handbrake on....

[zaccee1996]

what do you use to edit your videos?

[soundseeker63]

Geez that looks bad. Was the handbrake left on or something?

I remember there was a huge fire in a tunnel in the pennines back in the 80s that started like something like that.

[hihat101]

Hot axel box detectors usually pick this sort of thing up on heavy used freight lines, hot axel boxes are not uncommon on freight but very naughty if a train is not stopped asap, As a signalman at Hackney down box one friday night i stopped a class 47 right in the down local platform which was hooked up to a newspaper train, for the same reason,

[hihat101]

Hot axel box detectors usually pick this sort of thing up on heavy used freight lines,

[Gaz5100]

lucky to catch that. Lol at all hell brakes loose at Cheltnham Spa. :L Good vid :)

[vorlonb3]

Very interesting catch this - fascinating! ta for sharing.

[BIASpotter]

3:33 anyone notice the * half? broken points things * heading straight on? or do they turn automatically when he goes through them?

excellent catch tho

[cyclopsfilm]

@BIASpotter Yes, they are catch points. Spring loaded so as a train moves into the loop the wheels push them apart. However when a train is in the loop, should it slip or roll backwards then the train will become derailed instead of fouling the mainline.

[mr2gti]

@cyclopsfilm Which then begs the question... why derail and rolling back unit when a little bit of track and a end-stop buffer could be used?

Makes little sense really...

[madmax200769]

@mr2gti It makes perfect sense. A buffer stop wouldn't be of much use for a 1,000 ton train on a falling gradient. Buffer stops are of very limited use for a complete train in motion., A "drag" is more effective. In some cases there will be a sand drag on trapping exit. E.g. Rectory Junction (Cotgrave branch viaduct trapping main line exit)

[wollyxl]

@BIASpotter there catch point's to stop run away's they will spring open to let the train on to that road but ther closed after that, tell you what some one will have been sacked for that.

[formidable38]

@BIASpotter Those are 'spring' catch points and are operated by the passing wheels. Stops a roll back from occuring. That incidently happened at Charfiled a few years ago, derailed a couple of wagons but its better than it running back out onto the mainline infront of another train.

[ewsiscrap]

@BIASpotter

Who ever prepared this train has missed a hanbrake and left it applied.

Also ths handbrake should have been found when the train was rolled by the shunter.

During the journey the driver will have rear view mirrors to check the train.

WS just love these incidents , and the person responsible wiill get the sack.

Basic train perperation. Should not happen.

[JBofBrisbane]

@ewsiscrap - More likely a "hotbox" - a wheel bearing with insufficient lubrication has overheated. Probably why the train was proceeding at reduced speed.

[Rocketboy1950]

@JBofBrisbane Much more likely that it's sticking brake with that amount of smoke billowing from BOTH sides. The reduced speed was far more likely to have been due to the yellow on the signal and if the problem was known to the driver I'm sure that the train would have been stopped immediately. You DO NOT continue to move with either a hot box or a sticking brake.

[koelleballong2]

@ewsiscrap

I once sendt a train with one of the brakepads frozen to the wheel. No problems hearing that mistake as the locked wheel passed by me.

[Rocketboy1950]

@ewsiscrap It's obviously a sticking brake, the loco does not have rear view mirrors and with your mentality you should be a manager.

[GoldhunterUK]

@BIASpotter They are called 'catch points' and are set to stop stock rolling on to the main lines without signallers authority.

[MRBODGET]

The cause was a defective brake cylinder which caused the dragging brakes.The shunter who preped the train at westerleigh was in no part to blame although you always do wonder if you have missed something on the train prep.

[55022RSG]

yep i have smelled burning brakes on a vomiter

[slackerbtch]

Interesting vid... I do hope you made an attempt to warn the driver when you saw it? Either way though, no harm done, bit of drama for the passengers at Cheltenham. :-)

[robmasterman]

Congratulations on capturing such a rare moment and potentially a very dangerous one...5* Bob

[AndreiTupolev]

When i saw that there was a Class 60 involved I thought that it was another one gone bang.

[hydra1992009]

*victorialine67* because the tanks were empty it more likely to be a bigger bang than it would be if they were full because the vapour is the most dangerous part of any fuel lol so it would be a very big bang lol. and an amazing vid btw :D 5*!!!!!!!!! quite a lucky catch!! the onlt thing ive seen like this was 56303 on the intermodel train going south through chesterfield!! the wheels there were on fire :P

[headstandking]

Brill! What happened next??

[cyclopsfilm]

I went home :)

I was told the train was allowed to continue on it's way just after 17:00, I guess the brakes were freed off and allowed to cool.

[37372]

Ahh so that's what was going on then! I was at Brum New St and trains were being delayed due to "emergency services attending an incident at Cheltenham"

Good video - and thanks!

[GBRailwayWorld]

Top video! very interesting, its the type of 'unusual' footage i want to produce but can just never find anything!!

5 **

[cyclopsfilm]

I think the only way is to let it find you, always have your cam ready. Best of luck.

[MickeyLove01]

@GBRailwayWorld Pay local youths to place things on the track, then laugh as they get arrested by the BTP as you film secretly from within a small copse or woods somewhere nearby...

[dieselmanmike]

Thats a lucky catch ! Nice film, my son and I loved the whole thing with the fire engines too !! Empty tanks often have a lower flashpoint empty than full, which could still rip the tank apart ! Hope you enjoyed that cuppa, you desrved it !!

[Bondy1980]

That was a close one!! Would make quiet a bang!!! Great video! 5 stars

[Victorialine67]

not that much of a bang as it was empty

[Bondy1980]

lol that will teach me to read the info on the video!

[newbryford]

Empty tanks are still classed as dangerous due to the vapour. Believe me, it would still be a big bang.

[justinfoulger]

That was quite interesting a frav from me and a 5*

[adamtorbayexpress]

Fire + Oil = Bang lol 5*

[TheToxicMite]

Yikes! I would hate to see a hotbox'd oil tanker explode under the footbridge while I was on it!

Good video, 5* + fave :D

[peggey707]

Great catch, you don't see that every day 5*

[NN2Blue]

Interesting! And a bit disconcerting at the same time! 5*

[cyclopsfilm]

My sentiments exactly.

Those tanks were empty of oil but I guess they would still have vapour in them and that is a far worse scenario, very explosive.

[crazymanlargemarge]

WOW! 5*, was it today?

[cyclopsfilm]

Yes.

[EWS60500]

Coh, must have been a bit frightening for the driver. I had to laugh thoe with all the people outside the station, all wondering what was going on, well Hot axle boxes apparently. AND YES I HAVE SMETLD BURNING BRAKES ITS BAD

[cyclopsfilm]

No it was binding brakes, I watched them trying to free them for half a hour.

[34002salisbury]

nice catch was everything ok

[cyclopsfilm]

After two hours my fingers were a bit 'chilled' shall we say, so once it was in the loop I went home for a cuppa. Apparently the train left the loop just after 17:00 and is on it's way north again.

[railhead]

There was no danger of an explosion......BANG!!!!!!!