Snowstorm - In-Depth Ice Climbers Grab Video

[Mgjdag]

how does i move only nana or only popo??

[SwordsmasterMarth]

thanks a bunch

[HoloRecliner]

THANK YOU

[insanecardz]

That smash out doesnt work... by the time you smash up again they will have DI out.

[RussianStack]

How do make nana grab them first or u can't

[VergilSFD]

@RussianStack You need to desynch from nana to do so there are many ways to do this, a common way is to speed hug the edge.

[Cordaze]

Soooo....what about the Wii-mote? I guess we have to turn on Shake Smash?

[VergilSFD]

@Cordaze No, you do not need to turn on shake smash. Why would you need to do that? xD

[Cordaze]

@VergilSFD Because it says to use the C-stick for a lot of these moves, unless I am wrong, the C-Stick on the Wii-mote can't be a shortcut smash like on the gamecube controller.

[VergilSFD]

@Cordaze You don't have to use the C-stick to smash when nana is grabbing the opponent. It can be done without, the timing is harsh and annoying at times though. I do the up smash by pressing A and then Up + (Hold A) Release Up. The then let it auto release for the fully charge up smash. As long as nana is swinging when you start to charge you can charge without her throwing. If you start your Smash as soon as you Back throw chain you can manage to use it also.

[VergilSFD]

@Cordaze You can also just set grab to > and Up smash to ^. A lot easier and far more effective, hope this helped you.

[360GERA]

Nice video thx for the tips :D

[bolts1582]

My friend hates when I use this, mainly because when he does it, I can escape. ( Marth's UP-B invincibility frames). This has changed my play somewhat, and has really helped me. Very nice descriptions by the way.

[LlTHIUM]

c stick and z to smash? On the gamecube controller? It works sometimes but it's hard. When I go to smash while grabbing, I end up throwing the them instead.

[zeokenX]

This will be gone in Smash 4 =D

[nikanj]

Ice climbers are my worst fear in Brawl. That and Falco Phantasm off ledge.

[psinjo]

this video is excellent, makes it almost idiot proof, very simple and clean, only thing you forgot to mention for people new to ice climbers: pressing x or y (default settings) on the gamecube controller, will make nana jump without fear of using your up throw, then using the c stick with let her smash attack, or do an aerial strike without risk of throwing, until you're ready, be careful, 2 smashes with nana or 1 smash with popo will always break the grab

[TMSreptiles]

i can only do the fthrow one, and can hardly even do a dthrow cg ONCE. i guess its just another thing im bad at.....

[drummer6243]

how to i make nana do something different, or how do i make nana jumpa nd do the front smash?

[PogoShark]

In depth =

1. down, forward or backthrow

2. grab with nana

3. down, forward or backthrow

4, repeat

????????????????

thats the least specific tutorial for ICs CG iv ever seen =_=

[ImAce122]

You dont know how much this helped me.

[CitoKun]

What's the name of the song?

[AgentxxBuckwald]

How do you grab with nana or do any attacks with her for that matter? I thought everything she did was AI.

[imsoging]

@AgentxxBuckwald by buffering moves

[AgentxxBuckwald]

@imsoging Gonna sound like a noob but I dont understand what you mean by that. Is it uncontrollable or do you press a different button or something?

[imsoging]

@AgentxxBuckwald like for example if only popo is doing a smash, during the smash animation, you can push B for nana to shoot an iceblock.

in general, your moves will effect both popo and nana, but if they are desynchronized (e.g. one is off ledge), only the one able to do the move will do so

[AgentxxBuckwald]

@imsoging Ah. I never knew you could control nana.

[imsoging]

@AgentxxBuckwald @AgentxxBuckwald like for example if only popo is doing a smash, during the smash animation, you can push B for nana to shoot an iceblock.

in general, your moves will effect both popo and nana, but if they are desynchronized (e.g. one is off ledge), only the one able to do the move will do so

[socksproduction]

sick vid

[Maklopdsreturned]

Music choice?

[ShadowFanDude]

Actually, there is a way to get out, you have to time it right, but you hit L/R back, then jump and you get out of the grab, but I just avoid grabs.

[skittlesxlord]

@ShadowFanDude It looks super hard to get out, I seen this done in tournaments, tell them pro's how to escape them OP grabbers XD

[nikolllaz]

41 players got chaingrabbed

[Steefizzle63]

@brawlanator there are pros that use wii remote and nunchuck and they rape

like razer some marth player and an olimar player

its preference but anyone who was good at melee wouldnt want to switch

[zophis12]

im stuck at alternating throws....

[VergilSFD]

@zophis12 Remember to tilt your control stick, this can still be done by tapping the stick it, but it often slides the enemy too far making the timing, for some, more difficult. Also remember that whoever your secondary ice climber is(Usually Nana) will grab faster than your own. Your main ice climber (Normally Popo) has different spacing and grabs slower than the secondary ice climber. You will normally have to grab slower with Popo than you would Nana. EX. Throw-1.Grab-Throw-1.2.Grab

[noskillzzs]

and this isnt banned in tournys because!?!?!?!?

[Bluesabara]

@noskillzzs because it is they don't ban combos or infinites (like chain grabbing) unless it is a stalling infinite move, like Meta Knight's Infinite Dimensional Cape.

[alienation69]

whats DI mean?

[wtfismodesty]

so you cant do these chain grabs with a wiimote? :(

[ownagedeath4]

those 40 people had ice clibmers against em :D

[ownagedeath4]

one thing i dont understand.. left/right and grab with other person, smash down and grab-grab-grab i do understand.. but wtf how do you do left/right and grab with lala/popo again... o.O?

[theshoe124]

Are all of these possible with Wiimote and Nunchuck?

[happywhale4]

@theshoe124 use a damn gamecube controller

[theshoe124]

Are all of these possible with Wiimote and Nunchuck?

[cDAWG2711]

song name?

[emperorIng360]

@cDAWG2711

You'd know if you watched to the end of the video, champ.

[EpixAura]

When doing the BThrow - DThrow alternate, I sometimes have trouble with Nana rolling in the opposite direction of where she should be grabbing.

What am I doing wrong with the timing? I know you're supposed to press back and grab simultaneously, but I'm pretty sure I am, and I still can't get it.

[ACrazyMonk]

I have been trying to get these guys as my main but it is so gosh darn hard! you make it look so easy like its a 1,2,3 thing.

[jokemaster4life]

@ACrazyMonk lol from the very first moment i played melee, i chose the ice climbers because they looked like an interesting set of characters, and they instantly became my main, tbh i feel like i've bonded with them, they're still my fave and main chars on any ssb game, i found out about their true potential in brawl about chaingrabbing, and i got the hang of it after a while, so after a few practice runs maybe you'll get it

[15lysningieua95]

Im sooo gonna start practis, even though I dont think I will use em in normal matches, but who know? Maybe I will. :p

[Vodazvezda]

LOL I can make people ragequit doing that.

[Dude10256]

This compelled me to start maining IC. They're incredible amounts of fun to use. I'm glad I did.

[FinalSmashBrother]

I usually do this over and over when I want to get a cheap win. }=) Muahahhahahahahahhahahahha! I mess up though sometimes. Q_Q

[ownagedeath4]

i almost beated sum1 with it on friend roster, ALMOST with snake, 1 up kick and i won

[BIGDEEJMOHITO]

thanks to this video i am officially a lethal weapon in brawl

[ownagedeath4]

@BIGDEEJMOHITO yeah it realy pwns x)

[PossibilityOfRain]

thx for the great tut! gonna try out some of these nao.

[JDIsASuperman]

For anyone having trouble with this. I'd suggest using a modified wiimote-nunchuck control.

Shake smashes on (replacement for C-stick)

No tap-jump

Grab = down on the d-pad

Smashes = other d-pads

To charge smashes you just shake and hold Down on the d-pad. The grab button is a lot more accessible than in default controls and, in my opinion, than using GC controls. (Also, I find C-sticking harder to do than shake smashing at times)

[iCriiNgei]

way too hard to follow, i dont get which buttons i am supposed to use

[ownagedeath4]

@iCriiNgei what do you want to do, downsmash ? grab, then just jump and do forward+a, realy easy, smash up? grab, use (gamecube controller) c,load the smash up and throw ur oppenent into air, when you didnt throw him/her yet, unleash smash need more? reply and ask

[SuperSunkern]

this is so fufilling when you master it

[TheMTZA]

hoolly shitt¡¡¡¡

thanks very much for your video

[Shadow101thehedgehog]

The IC's would be bottom tier without their chain grab.

[Kyuutoryuu]

@Shadow101thehedgehog Not really. Their down smash does over 30% with a full good strike, they can still edgeguard really well, desynching = two different attacks one after the other, their "B" attack is somewhat good for edgeguarding. For sure not top tier, but something like mid-tier.

[AlwaysUpToVideos]

What's a dashgrab and how do you do it ?

[DXTinho]

A dashgrab is a combination of a dash and a grab, hence the name "dashgrab". In most cases, it provides more range and versatility, but on the downside, it often has considerable ending lag which leaves you open for an enemy attack if it were to miss.

You can execute a dashgrab by grabbing while dashing.

Smash the Control Stick left or right and press the grab button (default Z or L/R+A) while your character is in his running animation.

[TheNinaliza]

Könnte irgentjemand das Video noch einmal auf Deutsch machen :'D

[AlwaysUpToVideos]

At 1:22 It says to have nana forawrd air or whatever .. How do you have Nana move at your command ??

[XineVincent]

@AlwaysUpToVideos Technically, the buttons you press go to both characters, but with only one person to grab, the Ice Climber you control would grab and hit with a grab, while Nana is still free to jump, hit, etc.

[AlwaysUpToVideos]

@XineVincent I see .. But I tried that and I can like only get Nana to grab the other person once in a while , and it only happens once . Is there a trick to it ?

[Xcallion]

i can never get more than 2 grabs in a row

[bobthechicken314]

I went to a party the other day. We played this game, and started an 8 person tournament. Everyone selected characters, and the group started laughing at me for choosing Ice Climbers. That is, until the first game. Probably the most awesome $35 I've ever made. Thanks for enlightening me. :)

[mykuribosbigrthnyurs]

to complicated im sticking with kirby

[RedRyukinRose]

***help*** wat if u play with the wiimote/nunchuck is this recommended for those controllers?!?!?

[brawlanator]

@RedRyukinRose no way you have to us ethe game cube controller if your a noob (which you are) stop using the wii controller no matter how far you "master" the wiimote/nunchuck you can never actually use you charecter to their full potential.

[RedRyukinRose]

@brawlanator brawl me and i bet i can own u with Kirby 3867 - 5365 - 0605

[RandumCheese]

@brawlanator Uh... I think you are very wrong. Explain Tearbear.

kthxbai.

[Trackou]

I have a problem, when I F-Throw, nana start running and misses the grab !

Can someone help me ?

[JellieZero]

@Trackou If you are trying the alternating grabs, you don't want to dash Nana into the grab. Have her walk and grab. Same with Popo after Nana's grab. Go to practice mode and practice up!

[Trackou]

@JellieZero Yes but I throw with the directionnal stick, so when I push it forward Popo throw and in the same time, Nana start running :(

How can I throw Forward with Popo without Nana start to run ? :(

[brawlanator]

@Trackou time it right and train!!! thats what the training stage is for. (and some fun here and their)

[XxSilverCobraxX]

Yo culli use gcc

[Culiccidae]

It's pretty frustrating learning even the basic f-throw CG. If you tilt too much, Nana will dash. If you don't tilt enough, Nana will move forward but there will be no throw. Is the wiimote/nunchuck setup I'm using making it harder than necessary or is it still possible to get it consistently?

[orangebluemango]

does he say that the more you use an attack the weaker dmg it does?

[TheOriginalSmasher]

@orangebluemango yes

[orangebluemango]

@TheOriginalSmasher so is this true?

[TheOriginalSmasher]

@orangebluemango Until the person is KO'd, yes. BUT ONLY if the move is used repeadetly. Like, lets say you were Falcon, and kept using lasers for 1 minute straight on an enemy, the damage would start to decrease.

[orangebluemango]

@TheOriginalSmasher oooh where can i get info for this?

[Dwayneturtle1]

@ITP123 Can I play you online? I wanna see how good you are with Ice Climbers

[GardioxNebilim]

badass =D i can't wait to try this out

[sammyboy117XD]

is this effective on mk's?

[Sonjeff7]

yea but hard to get in to grab him sumtimes

[Jelley0]

I can do all the chain grabs besides the one in which you throw forward and then Nana grabs and throws forward and then Popo grabs and throws forward etc (alternating throws), the chain grab @ 1:39. Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong or give me tips please?

[shabtulation]

ok this is how u do that one i cant do any of the down throw or back throws but i can do forever foward ok what u do is grab like 1/2 second after u throw and practice on slow mode and make sure the sister grabbing again is a little in front of the thrower

[Cass731]

Ice Climbers rape :D

[POAFA]

I hate the Ice Climbers. They suck, their grabs are the only good thing about them. Fucking broken characters.

[brawlboyz]

@POAFA then y are u watching an Ice Climbers Video

[thomasdfghj1]

i'd like to say that their freeze and spike are quite good too...

[DustTheseNugz]

@POAFA Brawl fucking sucks- chain grabs, broken characters, tripping, no combos/hitlag, small blastlines, retarded recovery, the list is endless

[ZachP3rry]

@DustTheseNugz Melee is old. Get with the times.

[DustTheseNugz]

@ZachP3rry O I'm with the times. Who mentioned Melee btw? whatever. Yea its old and Ive played Brawl, its just a flawed and broken game where players can abuse stupid techniques and ruin the gameplay. I havent played Brawl+ but those guys got the right idea too.

[nikolllaz]

@DustTheseNugz So why are you watching brawl videos? :D

[CascadeHope]

Okay, can someone help me with this concept... It says for the basic down throw to nana air:

"2. Nana forward air"

How do I get nana to do this?

[IloveNirnroot]

Haha it is quite confusing.

But while you're doing the down throw, press up to jump with Nana and then side A or easier side C-stick.

[FedgleF79]

i totally agree on rule 3, they are my fave characters :D

[Lucariofiend]

Great Cg video! Of course, the heavier the better, and you're the first I've seen to use blizzard ^__^

[FfantasyF]

Dude I really am trying to master the chaingrab, but how do u walk with nana and popo when u wanna CG, becuz mine always run... urs walk, how come ^o)???? Weird...

[jacksnake432]

If popo is grabbing the person and you want to go for the back throw to nana then you can just press the control stick backward and then right after you do that push "Z" to grab

I haven't gotten the forward throw cg down yet but i think that instead of pusing the control stick all the way forward you just have to tilt it slightly as if you were trying to walk with them and then go for the grab

[FfantasyF]

Yap discovered that m8, tnx anyways xD I also didnt get the F-throw xS Or 1 of them doesnt walk, or walks but then i cant F-throw... tried different ways, but didnt work xS Amybe we can help each other when 1 of us discovers how it works xP Or "ITP123" explains us both xP haha the easiest way xD Tnx dude;)

[FfantasyF]

Dude I discovered (for myself xP) that u should grab with Popo a friction of a second later than Nana, otherwise he wint grab... So Press DIRECTLY "Z" after throwing with popo, but do it a FRICTION of a second later with grabbing after Nana throws...Thats so with B-, D- and F-throws CG...

[FfantasyF]

With F-throw CG, u should restart the procedure EVERY time... So just tilt the stick a lil bit forward, so the other char wont run... When u wanna throw forward, tilt the stick a lil bit, and when u grabbed with the other, release the stick, and do it all over again, so dont keep the stick tilted forward, but restart from the start... And as I said before, Popo grabs a FRICTION of a second later than Nana, so keep that in mind :)

[GoAnaDucks]

Slightly tilt the analog stick. I'm not the author, but that's how I do it. XD

[bullfinkle34]

Ive been playin the Ice Climbers since I saw a friend play them..I couldnt hit him he was just to damn good so i started to learn them..I got the Down throw chain down but cant do the chain grab where the IC alternate is there some trick to this?

[aggie487]

Its hard

i wanna learn with the wii mote and nunchck

can u give me any hints on what 2 do?

[Sorool97]

i just started usin chain grabs with ic aand its HARD

[indignationmaster]

sonic 3 music?

[WackWarrior]

Thanks that helped A LOT. :D

[Plato10]

I want everyone to know a way to smash grab without the c-stick. What you do is you hit A and pummel the character. Immediately after hitting A, input the smash command with A and the direction. The grabbing character wont throw because they are in the middle of a pummel. Don't know if this works when Nana is grabbing.

[Donkay20]

remember to use gcn controller

[kakashi2904]

i dont understand how you can control both of them

[Kyuutoryuu]

@kakashi2904 its really complicated, but basically when either they are desynched, or if they are in a grab sequence then you can control them. there are probably more ways that i dont know of. once you get the hang of it, it seems natural. ice climbers are great characters, but really hard to master o_O that's why every noob thinks I.C.'s suck

[kakashi2904]

oh i see i see, so basically its going to take alot of hard work and stress ^_^

[Kyuutoryuu]

@kakashi2904 exactly. lots of timing and precise buttons :D

[anikid0392]

How do you make Nana jump on air and hit with the hammer?

[NegiSplash]

while popo is grabbin, down+jump and then quickly forward+A

[anikid0392]

@NegiSplash Wow...that sounds hard...you mean down(analog stick) + Jump(Y) then side(analog stick)+ A?

[NegiSplash]

yes, and:

-you must press Y slightly, just a hop

-don't forget to regrab and repeat, yet when he is 25%+ he will be able to scape as explained in the vid.

it works on almost all characters, but there are exceptions.

plus, when nana hits this way it is a meteor smash, so you can kill from 0% if your opponent is near the edge.

[Triforce9426]

CG = Weak

[iluvmario333]

Snowstorm? Don't you mean grab storm?

[troidberg]

Hey thankyou for the video, but at 1:38 how teh fuck did you grab the enemy after trowning him?!.

[hyuugamoto]

He does throw. He just catches the opponent immediately upon their release from that throw.

[jolteontrainer]

I find back throws more easier. I dont know why... lol. Foward and down throws dont like me :<

[LadyBlutHecate]

This song is familiar. Though I somehow can't place it.

[ShittyVideoz]

It is Ice cap zone from sonic 3.

[Zitox2010]

very nice !

[Tailsmilespower]

I've got forward down, but i cant get it with backthrow. i can only do two throws with it (BThrow->Nana->BThrow) and that's it!

[maybe106]

how can you just control Nana?

Does it just work when Popo is occupied?

[travisridinger]

you obviously have never heard of desyncing

[maybe106]

i posted that when I didn't know how to use them....

[rasenganexa]

can you do the alternate grab with nunchuks and wii remote. please reply!! ITP

[ketturuut]

Yeah you can. But dont use Wii-mote or Wii-nunchuk, it sucks. use GC instead! :D

[pelonxiio]

@ketturuut can you explain me?/. cuz i really dont understand how this works :S

[shadowpixl09]

I think the Ice Climbers deserve these grabs. They need more attention. Who really has ever played the Ice Climbers game?

[vyseskies]

im almost mastered

but some character im get until 80% =/

that requires a lot of attention and timing but with the time is getting easy

practice

[doanjoey]

Cheap Ice Grabbers

[DXTinho]

Meh, of course do the ice climbers have lots of potencial. Characters don't get in the A-Tier for no reason. Duh

[basvhout]

i don't think the explaination is good. cause I can't move the other climber when I'm holding someone. and then he throws him aways but the other climber isn't close enough... could somone explain that to me?

[xAIDSx]

Pummel while you try to move forwards, this causes popo to be too busy pummelling to throw and nana can walk for the grab

[Haunterpnoy]

@basvhout if you tilt the D stick very slightly(during a grab), the other iceclimber will move a little, and that should give you a position

[AlwaysUpToVideos]

@Haunterpnoy D stick ?? What's that ?

[AnimePenguin101]

@basvhout Yes you can. While one climber is throwing you gain control of the other (to some extent -- stuff conflicts because you have one set of buttons for two characters). In midthrow, the Ice Climber who is throwing is in an action, so you just control the second. In that throw you move the second forward and grab. And repeat.

[Shinde425]

Thank you so much for this informative video, I just picked these guys up today and started messing around with them and I wanted to learn in detail what I can do, since they seem to have a lot of potential. =)

[narutosuper1fan]

another thing i must point out,after 3 times of the nana forward air chain grab,follow up with ice shot infinity,it does at least 70% all together.

[narutosuper1fan]

amazing,i confuse my friends into thinking i'm doing an infinity grab combo, but i make up different variations of the grab combos which usally does at least 35% damage.

[abvdkjnbnb]

how do you grab with nana and attack with only nana?

[Jerie12345]

great video :) are they your best characters?? Mine is falco (chain grabs lol)

[zukamaru123]

my best characters are toon link first and sonic second, mostly for free for alls. i watched this video about a week ago and i pwn all my one vs ones because the combos here. thanks for posting this man

[sttrudelcutie4427]

What does Di mean?

[GawdImTom]

Directional Influence. Basically when you slightly alter your trajectory simply by holding a direction after being attacked.

[pychatog]

this doesnt teach me how to do anything...

[Dwayneturtle1]

What's the name of the song?

[Kittycayt]

Sounds like a remix of the Ice Cap Zone song from Sonic 3

[Dwayneturtle1]

Exactly

[RoblScape]

It sure is. :D

[crossfire6801]

how do you walk with nana during a grab w/out throwing with popo? im trying to learn the foward chaingrab and im having trouble. HELP!

[SolidSnakeRules]

I think you just lightly tilt the control stick

[E123Brawler]

This is helpful information. I'll never master all of this stuff, but it sure does help.

[ImaMangaGeek]

how the heck to u grab with nana? I can never do it consistentlly! D:

[tehbestnameva]

im having troble with forward chain grab cause i use wiimote i can do everything else though

[jarhead3556]

You probably shouldnt use the wiimote. Not to be a GC controller Nazi buuuuuut it is pretty much the best. IMHO ^_^;;

[tehbestnameva]

well my gc is broken but i can learn almost any technique with wii mote its actually pretty easy you just cant use complicated combos though im just having trouble grabbing with nana

[tehbestnameva]

wait nvm i figured outhow to forward chaingrab :D

[ImaMangaGeek]

amazing. :D I main ice climbers and chaingrab and all that and i think this will make me better. >:D lol

[C6R7]

NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!^^ i like it héhéh Awesome

[Twilightlink421]

The IC are awesome. It's pretty much chaingrabbing in style.

[ppepreggae10]

I CAN DO ALL OF THEM!!!!!!!

[aurarus]

one more rating for 666 ratings! :o

I never knew Ice Climbers were this good...

[SirDweeb0]

im having trouble with the downthrow to nana forward air. any tips?