philosophy of will, 1.0

[Charlesdance]

You are what your brain thinks belongs to it.

[pyrrho314]

interesting

[hyperseauton]

...made the day of MY autopoetic (I am not trying to kid anyone by using this term, it only seems to be fitting to me) systems.

[regemo]

It sounds like then there must be some evolutionary advantage to having competing wills feel once they gain control that they were always in control and always will be. And the same when the next competing will takes its place in control the control spot.

[2bsirius]

"Philosophy of Will"?

Does Will have a last name?

[Loud groan]

Sorry...I tried to stop myself, but my will was too weak.

[Israe5l]

@2bsirius

For example, a person with mental illness will not have control of his thoughts but not have control of his will.

[Israe5l]

@2bsirius

oops...my mental illness took hold of me here. the following is the mentally correct version

For example, a person with mental illness will have control of his thoughts but not have control of his will.

[Cashify]

Who is we? We is not something that can be visualized and then described.

[fede2]

will, self, consciousness and the like are emergent properties, as far as i'm concerned.

[dewinthemorning]

Seconded. Emergent properties of our mind that is evolved to be very flexible in answer to feedbacks.

[fede2]

although i'm an atheist, it bothers me when hard materialits/determinists rule any of this out simply because it's not tangible.

[dewinthemorning]

Where did I "rule any of this out"? I am only pointing out the materialistic basis of our feelings. But our brain, made very flexible in interpreting the world and ourselves, by the effect of the genes, creates our concepts and notions, and the noeminous (or if you prefer, the transedental) feelings that we have. They exist for us. Love exists for us. I am only saying, that before humans, before life, there wasn't some disembodied "love", hovering around in the cosmos.

[fede2]

i wasn't pinning you as one of them. i was just commenting in general. we are in full agreement as far as i'm concerened.

[rhyfelur]

I haven't really thought this thru, but do you think will might be just an extension of our evolved ability to plan and strategize?

[BombdePlume]

Sounds like that's what he's saying. Or maybe that will is a sort of Freudian ego intermediating between drives.

[pyrrho314]

I see it as it's own affect will that happens to have as it's subject matter other wills.

[BombdePlume]

And these other wills subjected to the intermediating will (if I have that right) are conscious similarly to us/the intermediating will? Do you equate consciousness with will or call it a result of all the wills within a thing?