i used to love this band in my earlier punk days, but now that i look back some section of the lyrics are silly. Rejecting class war/struggle and solidarity? Rejecting labour? that's silly
I don't think they're rejecting anti-capitalism, but rather they're rejecting the type of socialism that simply mimics the productivist and Work logic of capitalist mass-society.
the point is that liberation of workers is two-fold: expropriation of the means of production for purposes of surviving and decentralizaiton of all power-structures (I.E. specialization of work and power etc.) for a truly free society, not a half-ass socialist but still authoritarian world.
I don't think it's literally "war", cause neither the rich nor the poor earn their money with an intension to fight anyone. They just do this to buy food and pay the bills. And sometimes the less educated get more money, especially here in Poland, cause we got too many students/graduates than road builders or truck drivers. I'm quite new to punk, I listen to metal, metal is more broad cause it's a general "fuck off" to everyone and everything, regardless whether we're from the same class or not.
@trommnorse hmm don't be fooled, it's not a physical war but the class war is very real.. We all earn money to sustain ourselves primarily yeah, but it's more than that. Everyone is trying to get as much as they can and some of us are coming short of basic necessities. Most of us are insecure positions while others are not, but how
@seigneurvoland666 yeah I said the same thing until I realize that were all slaves of labor when Money is Indeed Worthless in Value. Every dollar made equals MORE DEBT in Reality.
@seigneurvoland666 o, were you just singing the lyrics. SORRY MATE i thought you were saying class war is a bunch of garbage.or were you.class war is just making sure the rich dont keep us thier slave forever.
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Ziggomattic17 2 months ago
They trap you with a paycheck with which they buy your time
In a rational society work would be a crime
When you accept their labels when you accept their lies
Class war just deceives you into building your demise
tearup 4 months ago
Class war sounds great in theory
And theory is where it should stay
I find no comraderie in a job that i work for pay
The road to hell is paved with intentions that are great
But their are fates much worse than hell a mindless workers state
There's nothing heroic about working for a wage
Paid slavery is all it is, a guilded money cage
tearup 4 months ago
Straight into their pocket books is where your class pride goes
They live in luxury while your sweat maintains their status quo
By living their lie
They'll make you work till you die
Their's no such thing as "honest work" it's all a fucking lie
I find no pride in lining their pockets till i die
By living their lie
They'll make you work till you die
tearup 4 months ago
Where are they from? Korea? Japan? This shit sounds great!
trommnorse 5 months ago
@trommnorse Portland
terrormachine78 1 month ago
i used to love this band in my earlier punk days, but now that i look back some section of the lyrics are silly. Rejecting class war/struggle and solidarity? Rejecting labour? that's silly
seigneurvoland666 2 years ago
I don't think they're rejecting anti-capitalism, but rather they're rejecting the type of socialism that simply mimics the productivist and Work logic of capitalist mass-society.
the point is that liberation of workers is two-fold: expropriation of the means of production for purposes of surviving and decentralizaiton of all power-structures (I.E. specialization of work and power etc.) for a truly free society, not a half-ass socialist but still authoritarian world.
reedisamonk 2 years ago 2
hmm thats true, theyre targeting more of the traditional socialist approach. Even if you are an anarchist, how could you reject class war?
seigneurvoland666 2 years ago
I don't think it's literally "war", cause neither the rich nor the poor earn their money with an intension to fight anyone. They just do this to buy food and pay the bills. And sometimes the less educated get more money, especially here in Poland, cause we got too many students/graduates than road builders or truck drivers. I'm quite new to punk, I listen to metal, metal is more broad cause it's a general "fuck off" to everyone and everything, regardless whether we're from the same class or not.
trommnorse 5 months ago
@trommnorse hmm don't be fooled, it's not a physical war but the class war is very real.. We all earn money to sustain ourselves primarily yeah, but it's more than that. Everyone is trying to get as much as they can and some of us are coming short of basic necessities. Most of us are insecure positions while others are not, but how
seigneurvoland666 5 months ago
@seigneurvoland666 yeah I said the same thing until I realize that were all slaves of labor when Money is Indeed Worthless in Value. Every dollar made equals MORE DEBT in Reality.
IAmSoTight1 1 year ago
When you accept their labels when you accept their lies
Class war just deceives you into building your demise
seigneurvoland666 2 years ago
@seigneurvoland666 you have no idea what your talking about.
469jasper 1 year ago
@469jasper how do you know he doesn't
969jasper 1 year ago
@seigneurvoland666 o, were you just singing the lyrics. SORRY MATE i thought you were saying class war is a bunch of garbage.or were you.class war is just making sure the rich dont keep us thier slave forever.
469jasper 1 year ago
@469jasper means, you let yourself be enslaved with you shopping mall credit card dreams
969jasper 1 year ago
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969jasper 1 year ago
They'll make you work till you die
Class war sounds great in theory
And theory is where it should stay
I find no comraderie in a job that i work for pay
The road to hell is paved with intentions that are great
But their are fates much worse than hell a mindless workers state
There's nothing heroic about working for a wage
Paid slavery is all it is, a guilded money cage
They trap you with a paycheck with which they buy your time
In a rational society work would be a crime
seigneurvoland666 2 years ago
Straight into their pocket books is where your class pride goes
They live in luxury while your sweat maintains their status quo
By living their lie
They'll make you work till you die
Their's no such thing as "honest work" it's all a fucking lie
I find no pride in lining their pockets till i die
By living their lie
seigneurvoland666 2 years ago
hells to the yes
reedisamonk 2 years ago