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  • kinda like the tolex sound better

  • I wish every amp demo was done like this.

  • Just got the Tolex Blues Jr.,,,and after watching THIS vid, I am already thinking about swapping out the speaker! A buddy of mine threw an Eminence Texas Heat into his blues Jr., and swears by it...any thoughts? Thanks for the GREAT video, too!

  • remember that he's using .12 strings ! that accounts for a lot of the chunk !

  • @indieclock What are you talking about, 12 strings?? He's using a 6-string guitar, just look for yourself. What he said was that he was playing a 12 bar pattern.

  • @budarday i'm referring to the string gauge he's using on his mexican strat.

  • @indieclock understood, 0.012", I see

  • Tolex is harscher in a good way; nervous and brilliant ! The tweed get the real Mc Coy, that good old sound we all look for...Both are sweet litlle amps.

  • very professionnal clip! exactly what i was looking for....

  • This video is brilliant... it resolved an argument with my friend, and of course, i won

  • TWEED. The Tolex is too harsh. Awesome demo though!

  • Tolex is better. Cannabis Rex is the tops though :)

  • i prefer the tolex..... but i'll give you the smoothness on the tweed. both sound really good. i guess i just prefer the presence of the tolex. ... awesome shoot out. good job

  • TOLEX is better!

  • The tweed sounds better. Just a more pure tone.

  • Great presentation, Nice, Clear and Short to the point! Thank you so much!

  • couldent have demoed it better. btw sweet playin

  • Nice review!

  • Wow what the hell, I always thought the V30s were alnico speakers, what the hell is an H-magnet?

  • I prefer the look of the tweed but the tolex sounds so much better!

  • @utubemaster047 I thought so too... I think it is because the extra treble of the Tolex one is picked up better by the mic. I did a head to head of these two and the tolex sounds harsh and sterile with too much treble. I bought the NOS tweed and it sounds great!

  • more definition in the tweed

  • I like the tweed better. It's like you put the whole amp in a thin wood box and miked and picked up some wood tone with it.

  • Is the tweed and the speaker the only difference between them?

  • The tweed has much less midrange. Honestly, the tweed one sounds more like a Fender.

  • both sound great

  • I have the tweed amp its a great sounding amp but there is no gain! like what the hell

  • @RipzMan24 Put the volume on 12 and crack the master unti lyou hear sound. The volume controls the gain. If you want gain for a blues solo use a BOSS SD-1 overdrive pedal (if you are on a budget) or something better like a Barber Direct Drive. There are tons of OD pedals to choose from.

    If you want rock guitar power chord gain you'll get there with a bridge humbucker pickup.

  • So what is the speaker in the tolex amp? I am wondering if that would make a difference in my valve king 112 amp.

  • The tweed version is warmer and might work better for rhythem guitar. But in a solo the rounder a little sharper tone from the tolex might work better and cut through. However what this video shows is that speakers have a huge impact on sound.

  • Can you do a lesson teaching that rhythm?

  • wow, glad guitar center only had the tweed version in stock :D

  • I prefer the tweed glassy tone ;-D

  • I bet it'd sound great with both of them on at the same time.

  • Sounds like you can get the same sound by turning the mid rage off on the vinyl one. They both have the same boxy sound just the mids are different. You could try to get a solid pine cabinet for the tweed so that you can get a more tweed sound.

  • Personally, I liked the fatter tone from the tolex, but the tweed just looks cool. Maybe it's as simple as EQ'ing some more bottom end. Of course, I only listened on my little iPhone speakers.

  • Great demo i think the tolex sounds a little fatter with more low end

  • the speaker makes a MASSIVE difference!

    i'd love to see a tweed vs humbolt hot rod shoot-out!

  • I play through a Tolex Blues Jr. and I can agree that the Blues Jr. is a MUST HAVE in the Tweed...much brighter and more defined sound

  • I like the thin sounding and snappyness of the solid state rectifier. Can you get the amp thiner sounding?

  • someone needs to do this with the Humboldt Blues Junior!

  • I much prefer the Tolex!

  • I find it ironic that the Jenson speaker makes the Tweed version sound more like a Blackface Fender than the black Fender on the left... ~shrug~ :)

  • @yobhsiFehT Black tolex doth not a Blackface Fender make... just say 'NO!' to ribbon cables and PC boards!

  • @BuzzCrumhunger

    Heh, if I had the money to go hand-wired, I would;)

    (And even so, I wouldn't sully the good name of Blackfaces by referring to a Hot Rod series as such. Tho, they can be modded to sound pretty darn good - even the snobbiest aficionado should concede that.)

  • Man the tweed one is nice! I gravitate towards one every time I enter a guitar shop.

  • I think the tolex sounded better on the low strings, but the tweed sounded better on the high notes.

  • i prefer the tolex.. not to clanky..v:)

  • great demo, I have both tweed and sunburst ltd edition and used both at same time in a live recording. Sunburst, max out with reverb, the tweed dry.... awsome sound.

  • Hey in your opinion is the b.j nos loud enough for a bedroom amp with a backing track? and does it have an over drive channel?

  • The Tweed sounds a lot springier.

  • holy crap you're a beast!

  • The tweed got the cooler riffs no fair ha ha

  • The tweed is more nasally and higher on the treble side, I prefer it for sure.

  • A huge difference

  • the tolex sounds louder and fatter, the tweed sounds brighter i feel like i should own them both though

  • what speaker is in the tweed?

  • Tweed by a long shot

  • Doesn't it hurts in your ears when your cranking the master on 12?

  • Hey is there a difference between the wheat version and the tweed version?

  • @stretch90 the wheat version is the same as the tolex but with a different covering

  • Why is everyone saying they like the tolex better? The tweed is where its at yo

  • Im finding that at first i like the tolex but the tweed has more dimensions in it sound and that wins in the long run.

  • I like the tolex way more.

  • I like tweed better. Just more round and a tad scooped. Tolex (which I own) is rigid in the mids and shrill in the top end. Is the only difference between them the Jensen or is there more than that?

  • Tweed sounds a bit "muddy" to me. I prefer the Tolex.

  • GREAT shootout!

  • Good job, thnx for the reivew

  • I like the tolex one better. By the way, good job keeping a steady tempo from one version to the other!

  • Thanks for the demo.. I personally prefer the tolex in this particular demo. It seems to have a fatter, darker sound, while the tweed is more pronounced in the mid-highs with more bite, like it opens up a little more. I guess I'm just a fan of the warmer sound.

  • Tolex :)

  • now change the speaker to a Weber alnico or Celestion Blue alnico and you'll have an even better amp

  • It appears as though the tweed sounds warmer, has better resonance and is cleaner. The tolex is harsh, restrictive and muffled sounding. I prefer the sound of Vibro-KIng's because they're even warmer, better yet resonance and have pristine cleaness. Overall, Fender has the closest thing to a perfect amp. Although, I don't care for their analogy of "bell like chime" as it indicates that a guitar sounds clangy which I don't think it should sound like.

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  • whats the full name of the tweed version?

  • @qlino1313 Fender Hot Rod Series Blues Junior NOS 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp

  • great video.

  • I just bought a tweed fbj today brand new and omg, I feel like this amp was made especially made for me. I couldn't be happier! Fender, you guys really did it right with this amp!

  • judging from the vid alone i like the tolex better... a lot meatier of a sound

  • The Tweed version has a "milkier" tone, but the Tolex version could have the "harshness" (bright) pulled back a bit with a pedal. So the extra money one might spend on the Tweed could just as easily be spent on pedal(s). Buut what wha-wha pedal would be best through these lil amps? Anyone have a video demo of pedals through these amps?

  • tweed

  • What volume does this amp start to break up at?

  • This made my mind up, tweed it is! Sounds fatter more Stevie Ray Vaughn-ish which is what i am after. Thanks for the vid.

  • @whitestripebuzz I think the tolex sounds more srv...

  • @seanymikes true man. Tolex has a much darker sound, and fatter. Tweed would be good for knopfler stuff, not my cup of tea anyway.

  • The tweed sounds scooped compared to the tolex one. Both sound great and that strat sounds great. It's a matter of taste. Ironically, I think the tweed sounds more like a BF era Fender with the big scoop while the tolex one sounds tweedier with the more forward mids. Great comparison.

  • I personally prefer the tolex sound, but much prefer the tweed to look at

  • Tolex version is brighter and tweed seems very muddy.

  • tolex sounds much nicer to my ears.

  • I have the tweed BJr and it is a beautiful amp, cuts nicely through the mix crispy clear, bigger speaker and much better quality and it takes pedals like heaven, the Tolex while not a bad amp at all but is a bit mor muffled than the Tweed and has a smaller speaker, but still a great tube amp

  • @play3apesta

    I dunno, 12" is pretty much 12"

  • @jonmy7 but the max wattage output does nake a difference, if I'm not wrong the tolex has a 20 watt 12" speaker where the Tweed has a Jensen 50 watt 12"

  • @play3apesta Yes true, the speaker makes a massive difference - I was just being picky at your size comment ;-)

    Great video by the way grr8bluesgtr

  • @jonmy7 LOL at your response, peace man and keep on rockin

  • tweed is waay fatter sounds nicer

  • tweed is much much better what ever you did :D

  • I like them both. Tolex sounds warmer, while the tweed boasts more clarity. Why not buy both?! Also I hear the BJ lll has shock absorbers on the tubes to control rattling.

    Nice demo! Love the way you edited to provide what I call "ear to ear comparison".

    Wish it was longer!

  • Caveat emptor---the EL84 tubes in the BJ rattle like hell at certain frequencies! It's a mechanical sound---i.e., not microphonics---and it's so awful that I'm selling my BJ after owning it for only 3 months. Google "Blues Junior EL84 tube rattle" in order see how widespread this issue really is for BJ owners and owners of amps with EL84s.

  • great job!...loved the way you edited this vid...Tweet definetely sounds clearer

  • The blues junior is one of the best sounding amps around. I have played a tolex since they came out but the one thing they have in common is that they all sound good-but slightly tonally different. I cant really tell if this tweed makes a difference or not as it sounds about the same as a variant of the tolex. btw a tube screamer with a junior is simply awesome- I would really recommend that combination.

  • i have no idea how you people like the tolex better, compared to the tweed it sounds all muffled. tweed is obviously better

  • that tweed sounds way more three dimensional

  • i put a celestion greenback an in my tolex and noticed absolutely no difference.

  • i just noticed. it's funny. darn near everything is at 12.

  • I like the tolex version much more. Great demo, thanks.

  • The tweed does seem better for a Vaughan tone. I prefer the tolex...

  • i also like the black tolex one better.

  • I like the blues junior more...

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  • I just tried out a fender blues jr. tolex. This is the exact kind of information I was looking for. Thanks

  • This is so great! REALLY shows me what I want to know! Thanks for posting Sir!

  • Thanks for all your videos - this one in particular. I determined I love the Jensen mod and the tweed look. Just snagged me a Blues Junior NOS tweed at MusiciansFriend for $415 used! Hurry!

  • really nice demo btw

  • opt for the tweed version... OR, buy a new speaker?

  • Wow. Some tin ears out there.

    The Tolex is middlin' and undefined. The Tweed has bite and a clearly differentiated range of tones.

    Excellent approach to reviews. Would like to see more.

  • can someone help me out?... I'm thinking of getting the Blues Jr. Amp, "Tolex" version, and I'm gonna be playing it with a 2001 MIM strat with stock pickups; would i achieve a tone close to the one in this Video, or if not, at least close? Or if i should change pickups, what are some good options? thanks.

  • Really, I like the Tolex much more.

    However, it is hard to make a valid judgement that I am ready to stand by without playing gigs with both of them. Maybe my tolex preference would be shot down after a set with the tweed, but as I hear it in this very fair (assuming all controls, both amps are set identically), the tolex has more bass and treble, and has a more transparent presence- a good thing in my book.

  • GREAT DEMO, thanks for posting

  • The stock speaker sounds like cardboard to me. The Jenson definately imbelishes. Have to say I like the cesletrian 30s in the Tx red ltds. Now that I want a tx red, their all gone. So now either I buy a Celetrian 30 to put in a standard blues jr. Or get one of these. Ive never been one on cosmetics in the past except on these little amps. I want a TX red with a wicker type front like the orange amps have. That would be a beautiful combination . cedebonzo has a cool demo if you havent seen it.

  • I sold my 100W Fender 94 Twin Amp and bought a Tweed NOS Blues Junior after watching some of your reviews. What a fantastic little amp! Now I can hear AND walk upright again---thanks Anthony!

  • i love my blues jr nos more than fat kid love cake

  • sound clips are too short to bask in each tone. alas, I think each amp has its merits, with the tweed sounding more "classic fender"

  • fantastic review. straight to the point. great side-by-side!

  • I'd say the tolex sounds better:P

  • I've got a Blues Deluxe which sounds great but too loud for a small blues club I play in. I got my blonde Tolex (MIM-cream board) today & it's sounds great but I'm already thinking of replacing the Fender Special design emminence spkr. Everyone out there, please send me your vote for 'Celestion Vintage 30' or 'Jensen C12N'. (I've also seen Weber) Let me know IYHO which sounds better in your experience. I play tele/strats. Any comments also please & thanks in advance.

  • that tweed has an SRV sound to it. much better than the tolex.

  • Holy crape! That is an epic difference! Sooooo glad I own the tweed Hot Rod Deluxe :)

  • im buying a tolex blues junior with the upgrade. so it should sound almost identicle to the tweed?

  • excellent demonstration. Thats the way its done. Thanks man!

  • tolex rulez!

  • Tried a Jensen C12N in my old green-board, black tolex B junior...just didn't like it. Sounded harsh to me. Might try a Celestion Green back though...

  • To my ears the tweed NOS lacks a degree of rock n' roll that you get with the lower fidelity speaker. Both are beautiful sounding though, I can't wait to get one for myself.

  • wait, whats the difference between the tweed and the hot rod?

  • This is the best review I have ever seen... Sweet and simple with good editing. The only thing that would have made the review overall better would be a mic'd amp setup while recording this. All I can say is that, why cant more reviews be like this one?

  • thanks for the demo. That helps me with a decision. Thanks!

  • i ended up getting the NOS. mostly because I wanted the tweed. I think the jensen sounds better. But you really have to try it out in person. Listening to compressed youtube audio over computer speakers isnt the same.

  • wow! the difference is extreme! the original speaker must be really crappy

  • Short, simple, sweet and very effective demo - thanks!

  • I prefer the mids of the tolex. The tweeds sounds too bright for me, although I'd add a little bit more treble to the tolex.

  • Wow! Right to the point without telling me how you aquired them, or that both come with master volume knobs and power cords.

    I'm going to buy both amps just because you have them my friend...

  • how much more is the tweed? in € if possible

  • tolex is just darker in my opinion, Tweed trumps tolex =D

  • Good review, Id like to hear more than the neck pickup though...

  • Ever run these together in stereo?

  • This demo makes me like the stock version more. Overall, the tweed has a rounder, smoother sound. I have the black one, though, and it's a fine amp, especially when you get a couple overdrive pedals.

  • wow the tweed sounded a lot clearer, big difference.

  • What is your favorite?

  • is the fat switch on or off??

  • @Chainmail

    I've owned the Tweed NOS for only 2 weeks and haven't had chance to use on stage yet. But, it seems the FAT switch simply boosts low frequency for fuller sound. It doesn't boost gain nor boost distortion. It really doesn't do much. P.S. reverb is a bit tinny. fingers

  • I have the tolex and it's pretty trebley...?But that's what I like about it.

  • blues hunior got very accurate clarity.

  • This is a great review man. Exactly what I needed to understand the differences.

    IMO, the original (non-tweed) version has a nicer, more functional tone. Sounds like the NOS version is really missing some bite in the mids (which is probably the intent). Great video. Thanks.

  • im sooo gonna get this junior blues , thanks for the awesome shootout , nice playing to :)

  • I do like the sound of the Jensen C12N. Reminds me of my Fender Bassman. Too bad it makes it a one-trick pony though. You lose a lot of mids. I have a Texas Red with a Celestion Vintage 30 in it and I can get a wide range of tones out of it including the tone from that Jensen.

  • how would you say the tweed is for playing live? like as far as taking effects in front of it and it's over all volume (will my drummer be able to hear me if i'm still playing relatively clean?)

  • short and sweet. This is how all demos should be. Thanks

  • Why is the blues junior such an amazing amp?

  • I don't know why but I like the tolex better

  • @Mr78130 I'm with you. To each his own, but I'm sure that's why Fender makes more than one version. What to some people is "warm" sounds muffled to me. I actually want to hear the highs and the bottom, and one can always roll off the highs. I've found it's more difficult to brighten up a muffled sound than to darken up a bright one.

  • I don't know about speakers or anything, but I prefer the tolex tone, feel more response when played with more puch. I think the tweed sounds more "weak". Adjustment of pannel control are the same on both amps?

  • excelente!!!!

  • Thank you for putting this together. It was effective and helpful. Right to the point with no filler. I wish everybody had the ability to show this type of judgement and restraint when putting equipment comparisons together. Well done!

  • Sweet. Both sound good. If they weren't side by side, no one would even think about the isue of the tonal differences, etc. Nice playing!

  • call me crazy but I like the tolex one better. nice and chunky.

  • @kujofox me too

  • @kujofox

    Me too!!!

  • Hmm - the moment you switched from Tolex to tweed I said to myself just: "No".

    I prefer the Tolex versions sound...

  • Thanks for the info, 'cause I've tried both and felt the tweed sounded a bit better...still happy with the tolex but maybe I'll check out that speaker. Thanks again!

  • What speaker did you upgrade the tweed with?

  • @lamborn55 The tweed comes with an upgraded speaker over the tolex, a Jensen C12N.

  • Wow. This is great. Extremely useful for me personally and I love how the amps switched over in the video.

  • Nice chops... a great non standard tuning as well takes some of the BOING out of a strat!

  • i use a tele and if i use a tweed the twang will be twice as much right?

  • Thanx for this short but really intresting and great review. I like the Tolex more...

  • tweed :P

  • I have both of these amps (I should do a review too) and I find the tolex to be better for clean headroom, and the tweed makes much more breakup early. I want to get a switch so I can have both attributes. In a pinch, I am using the tolex with a blues driver. It is very hard to get a loud clean tone out of my tweed junior, which is a 095 VOS American model with the Eminence speaker in it.

  • I own a tolex. Not because of that but tolex is way more characteristic to me. This difference in EQ becomes an advantage when you plug humbucking pups also.

    Great demo by the way. Thanks

  • My guitar teacher just bought one of these things and let me muck around with it for half an hour in class. It was so full of warmth, life, and personality that I went home, found one on auction and bid on it immediately. If I don't win it, I'll be keeping my out for another anyway.

  • i like the tolex better. just a preference

  • the tolex has a lot more nasty high mids while the tweed has a smoother tone.