You can still get middles in NFL and College. Apprx 3-4% of NFL games push the opening number,so about 20 games a year. 3,7 and 10 are most of those pushes. So any number off of these is worth a middle. There is still wiggle room in NBA and CBB totals-u can get 4-6 pt differences.A lot of running around. I think my time is better spent straight handicapping.
Philly Books were stuck in the 90's with Phone lines-so they wouldnt get updates for 10 minutes. Sometimes you could get the move and books wouldnt move it at all. The problem wasnt finding the right lines, it was trying to get paid.
@sorry @ Ryan69 or whatever your name is. Not sure why dopey people think sports handicapping in the one profession in the world that if you were any good, you shouldn't make a living off of it.
@offshoreinsiders Because you can make more just buy betting and releasing picks to the public kills a lot of your value. If you have an edge you want to keep it a secret and bet as much as you can. Not tell the world for $150 lol
@offshoreinsiders Because if you were actually good at it you could make more than enough betting. Last time I checked you can get down $100,000 on NFL sides easy so if you can win why do you need $199 from little Johnny ?? Could it be because you could never make a living by just wagering and u can't beat the game long term ? getting 100 suckers to send you $199 every month I'm sure is much easier.
Johnny whats up with all the haters trying to dump negativity your way. You took this shit to a whole other level. You work 16 hour days and these squares just dont have a clue. Your friend the Phillygodfather.
im sure if he were ripping people off pregame wouldnt be around but it is so obviously people like the picks vr and the rest of pre game make. what pisses me off is the outcome of events in the fourth quarter of the USC MINN game. going for 2? fumbling inside the thirty with 1:30 to go? minn scores there first second half points with 11 seconds to go wide open in the endzone? no player reaction? usc covered 3 games last reg season, and we already know their players take money (reggie bush)
@DEnumber73 Pre-scam is a joke lol why would they care if vegas runner years ago using a different name scammed people ?? im pretty sure pre-scam only cares about having Touts..ERR con men who in their stable who can sell
i never said vegas runner wasn't good at selling picks or dreams to naive people
if you could achieve what your selling you would be in vegas quietly betting these games for 5-10K not doing lame videos on youtube for dumps like pre-scam.com looking to sell a $199.00 pick package to some novice square.
@Ryan1111111able...Different Names on Forums...what are you talking about bro ?? Are you kidding me...Since blowing up, I've been accused of plenty...but this new one is by far one of the most ridiculous yet...Can't wait to see what people come up with next...
I actually am in Vegas Betting these plays...Didn't you watch the CNBC Special...I would think they did their due diligence better than a teenager in him moms basement..
So a hedge-fund manager should ONLY keep his info to himself.SQUARE
@therealvegasrunner the CNBC special means shit...Hell NBC thinks Brandon lang is legit and have him on as a "Expert" just beacuse you were a "runner" oesnt mean you can pick games..it just means you did the "grunt work" all kinds of former runners around vegas who worked for Billy Walters..doesnt mean those guys are sharp lol it just means they could take orders
Cold Dish..Actually, I was taking action and betting well before 16.. But it wasn't until around 16 that I knew I'd do this for the rest of my life and started taking it very serious and began getting organized...Brother, that's not rare at all..I would bet 50% of kids in Philly placed their 1st bet with a book by the time they were 14...It's just the environment & culture..Best of Luck, VR
@Ryan1111111able ...LOL...That's some funny shit !! I think if I had anything to do with any scheme that stole even $250...I would have been charged with a crime...Especially when you take into account that I'm so high-profile...Just goes to show you how square some people can be...Believing what some hater on the internet wrote...lol...Damn, people are more naive than I ever imagined...Believe me, if I was scamming..the last thing that would happen is someone like you finding out..lol.Good Luck
@therealvegasrunner How can you be charged with a crime when being a "TOUT" isn't even a legit business ??? Being a tout is the wild wild west...you can do and ask for whatever you want...If i pay you 5K for picks tonight and you run off with the money is that a crime ?? Who would i even call the "sports tout police ? lol
The fact you used about a million different names on the betting forums over the years speaks volumes
and i know you scammed people when you were ACE SPORTS NETWORK
@Ryan1111111able ...Yes, that actually would be called "Fraud"..."Grand Larceny"...ect...Kid, you need to wake up and stop believing everything you read, especially when there's nothing to support the ridiculous claims..
The only thing that bothers or worse, scares me..is that there are people out there who are really that ignorant and naive about how the world actually works..
I guess we can blame immaturity & age...otherwise, it would truly be pathetic...Best of Luck..I got bets to make !!
You can still get middles in NFL and College. Apprx 3-4% of NFL games push the opening number,so about 20 games a year. 3,7 and 10 are most of those pushes. So any number off of these is worth a middle. There is still wiggle room in NBA and CBB totals-u can get 4-6 pt differences.A lot of running around. I think my time is better spent straight handicapping.
torr59622 2 months ago
Philly Books were stuck in the 90's with Phone lines-so they wouldnt get updates for 10 minutes. Sometimes you could get the move and books wouldnt move it at all. The problem wasnt finding the right lines, it was trying to get paid.
torr59622 2 months ago
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815Sox 4 months ago
@sorry @ Ryan69 or whatever your name is. Not sure why dopey people think sports handicapping in the one profession in the world that if you were any good, you shouldn't make a living off of it.
offshoreinsiders 1 year ago
@offshoreinsiders Because you can make more just buy betting and releasing picks to the public kills a lot of your value. If you have an edge you want to keep it a secret and bet as much as you can. Not tell the world for $150 lol
Username01793 1 month ago
@offshoreinsiders Because if you were actually good at it you could make more than enough betting. Last time I checked you can get down $100,000 on NFL sides easy so if you can win why do you need $199 from little Johnny ?? Could it be because you could never make a living by just wagering and u can't beat the game long term ? getting 100 suckers to send you $199 every month I'm sure is much easier.
Username01793 1 month ago
Johnny whats up with all the haters trying to dump negativity your way. You took this shit to a whole other level. You work 16 hour days and these squares just dont have a clue. Your friend the Phillygodfather.
ThePhillygodfather 1 year ago
@ThePhillygodfather PRE-SCAM
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
usc is 0-3 covering the spreads this year
DEnumber73 1 year ago
UK has covered all 3 games this year
DEnumber73 1 year ago
im sure if he were ripping people off pregame wouldnt be around but it is so obviously people like the picks vr and the rest of pre game make. what pisses me off is the outcome of events in the fourth quarter of the USC MINN game. going for 2? fumbling inside the thirty with 1:30 to go? minn scores there first second half points with 11 seconds to go wide open in the endzone? no player reaction? usc covered 3 games last reg season, and we already know their players take money (reggie bush)
DEnumber73 1 year ago
@DEnumber73 Pre-scam is a joke lol why would they care if vegas runner years ago using a different name scammed people ?? im pretty sure pre-scam only cares about having Touts..ERR con men who in their stable who can sell
i never said vegas runner wasn't good at selling picks or dreams to naive people
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
if you could achieve what your selling you would be in vegas quietly betting these games for 5-10K not doing lame videos on youtube for dumps like pre-scam.com looking to sell a $199.00 pick package to some novice square.
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
@Ryan1111111able...Different Names on Forums...what are you talking about bro ?? Are you kidding me...Since blowing up, I've been accused of plenty...but this new one is by far one of the most ridiculous yet...Can't wait to see what people come up with next...
I actually am in Vegas Betting these plays...Didn't you watch the CNBC Special...I would think they did their due diligence better than a teenager in him moms basement..
So a hedge-fund manager should ONLY keep his info to himself.SQUARE
therealvegasrunner 1 year ago
@therealvegasrunner the CNBC special means shit...Hell NBC thinks Brandon lang is legit and have him on as a "Expert" just beacuse you were a "runner" oesnt mean you can pick games..it just means you did the "grunt work" all kinds of former runners around vegas who worked for Billy Walters..doesnt mean those guys are sharp lol it just means they could take orders
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
@therealvegasrunner 99% of hedge fund managers are frauds..just like touts
biggest scum bags around
atleast hedge fund managers end up in jail when they get caught ripping people off unlike touts who arent regulated
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
@Ryan1111111able Caveat Emptor is the rule for tout services--buyer beware.
torr59622 2 months ago
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Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
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therealvegasrunner 1 year ago
Cold Dish..Actually, I was taking action and betting well before 16.. But it wasn't until around 16 that I knew I'd do this for the rest of my life and started taking it very serious and began getting organized...Brother, that's not rare at all..I would bet 50% of kids in Philly placed their 1st bet with a book by the time they were 14...It's just the environment & culture..Best of Luck, VR
therealvegasrunner 1 year ago
@therealvegasrunner By getting organized do you mean stealing $250,000 in a online sports betting scheme ? Get a life Ace
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
@Ryan1111111able ...LOL...That's some funny shit !! I think if I had anything to do with any scheme that stole even $250...I would have been charged with a crime...Especially when you take into account that I'm so high-profile...Just goes to show you how square some people can be...Believing what some hater on the internet wrote...lol...Damn, people are more naive than I ever imagined...Believe me, if I was scamming..the last thing that would happen is someone like you finding out..lol.Good Luck
therealvegasrunner 1 year ago
@therealvegasrunner How can you be charged with a crime when being a "TOUT" isn't even a legit business ??? Being a tout is the wild wild west...you can do and ask for whatever you want...If i pay you 5K for picks tonight and you run off with the money is that a crime ?? Who would i even call the "sports tout police ? lol
The fact you used about a million different names on the betting forums over the years speaks volumes
and i know you scammed people when you were ACE SPORTS NETWORK
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
@Ryan1111111able ...Yes, that actually would be called "Fraud"..."Grand Larceny"...ect...Kid, you need to wake up and stop believing everything you read, especially when there's nothing to support the ridiculous claims..
The only thing that bothers or worse, scares me..is that there are people out there who are really that ignorant and naive about how the world actually works..
I guess we can blame immaturity & age...otherwise, it would truly be pathetic...Best of Luck..I got bets to make !!
therealvegasrunner 1 year ago
@therealvegasrunner you mean you have pick packages to sell lol
Ryan1111111able 1 year ago
He was booking games at 16
I call bullshit
ColdDish1 2 years ago
arizona/new orleans 57 under---lost
sandiego/gonzaga +7---------lost
baltimore/indy 44 over-------lost
COME ON MAN !!!!!!!!!!!
But it's OK. I still like you guys...
Plese pick right one on tommorow OK???
jae122666 2 years ago