I played with hydrogen generators as well, but I could not find a configuration where the electrical expense justified the hydrogen output. Effectively, I always got alot less energy back, than I put into my electrolysis plates. The amperage required is to high, it's always e-h, more electricity used than hydrogen created.
Nice corrosion & toxic gas machine. Hydrogen isn't the only gas this machine produces, chlorine gas from the salt. The salt also expedites the already rapid corrosion & oxidization of copper in water, hence the green color. I'm sure I'm not the first to comment so, but I also advise stainless steel.
very nice coil, copper works great for the cathode - but sad for the + anode I have an idea that might work, if you put a tight fitting stainless tube 316L over the copper tube and connect the copper at both ends, also connect the copper - at both ends, connected areas with liquid plastic, ? the energy would fully energize the coil connected at both ends, plus copper a better conductor then stainless, the inner copper tube might allow better flow. ideas I wanted to share I hope they help!
Use sodium carbonate+water, stainless steel for the positive and copper for the negative. Works very well. Sodium carbonate also know as, soda ash, washing soda, sold as PH boost for swimming pools. It makes a base solution with water and is safer than acids or KOH.
I used a 3 inch pipe to wrap it around to get the shape and then just adjusted the distance between the coils. I've since moved on to using stainless steel plates and a better container. Currently I'm just cutting to the chase and started working on building an electric car. Ultimately thats the end goal.
@ rahdzhillaxxx ... The graphite doesn't produce the nasty rust color. but does produce a black " sand ". There may be more suitable grades of graphite out there. I used pencil lead. Watch the heat though.Carbon is resistive and heats up quick.
LET me Give you a tip!!!!!! Dont hook up the jumper cables right over an open cell!!! Ive blown them up in my face!!! Just got wet but its as loud as an M80
SSC's right, it'll puke garbage until you go to stainless. Another thing you might want to try that will improve output slightly is to feed power to opposite ends of the coils...
I might have to try the connections to oposite snds and see what kind of results I get. Thanks. Garbage is right! I'm still amazed at the results on my first try.
Yeah, I've seen the results from most of the guys in this area and have duplicated the results so to speak. I found a sheet of 316L stainless about 24x36 and have a friend that can cut it with his laser system to exact sizes I want. I just need to calculate it out and figure out what pieces I want. I'm thinking something similar to ZFF's cell, maybe a little larger because of the container I have. This was just a cheap way for me to at least get started. Only $11 for the copper and 2 hours.
@SmartScarecrow ya well any one try tantalum? highly corosion resistant, just couldn't use a base salt(koh or NaOH) they are a few of the metals weaknesses. oh ya and I have like 4 #'s of tantalum strips.
Table salt makes it produce chlorine rather than oxygen, use KOH or NaOH instead. You should also have less copper salts.
Chlorine-Hydrogen mixture can be ignited even with a camera flash! Stay away from NaCl!
lordplenty 3 months ago
OOHH! Copper smoke! Don't breathe this..
michelesestu 6 months ago
I played with hydrogen generators as well, but I could not find a configuration where the electrical expense justified the hydrogen output. Effectively, I always got alot less energy back, than I put into my electrolysis plates. The amperage required is to high, it's always e-h, more electricity used than hydrogen created.
SGTRandyB 9 months ago
Nice corrosion & toxic gas machine. Hydrogen isn't the only gas this machine produces, chlorine gas from the salt. The salt also expedites the already rapid corrosion & oxidization of copper in water, hence the green color. I'm sure I'm not the first to comment so, but I also advise stainless steel.
SGTRandyB 9 months ago
ya could just use stainless steel wool...
magnadox 1 year ago
green is 1 of my fav color
CEFD11777 1 year ago
looks like a kiwi juice maker from an engine hood! hahahaha!
sutadebastos 1 year ago
dont use salt dude it produces chlorine gas......
vikernespt 1 year ago
very nice coil, copper works great for the cathode - but sad for the + anode I have an idea that might work, if you put a tight fitting stainless tube 316L over the copper tube and connect the copper at both ends, also connect the copper - at both ends, connected areas with liquid plastic, ? the energy would fully energize the coil connected at both ends, plus copper a better conductor then stainless, the inner copper tube might allow better flow. ideas I wanted to share I hope they help!
GBH2o4u 2 years ago
thats gonna corrode pretty good
treyflip3losthispass 2 years ago
Use sodium carbonate+water, stainless steel for the positive and copper for the negative. Works very well. Sodium carbonate also know as, soda ash, washing soda, sold as PH boost for swimming pools. It makes a base solution with water and is safer than acids or KOH.
btechint 2 years ago
I used a 3 inch pipe to wrap it around to get the shape and then just adjusted the distance between the coils. I've since moved on to using stainless steel plates and a better container. Currently I'm just cutting to the chase and started working on building an electric car. Ultimately thats the end goal.
TheDroidbuilder 2 years ago
can u get cooper pre coiled like that, cause i dint see any at lowes
meatloaf505 2 years ago
@ rahdzhillaxxx ... The graphite doesn't produce the nasty rust color. but does produce a black " sand ". There may be more suitable grades of graphite out there. I used pencil lead. Watch the heat though.Carbon is resistive and heats up quick.
cribcat1 2 years ago
producing oxogen YES, producing hydrogen YES, and also...MUSTERD GAS, FROM USING THE SALT.. use bicarb /soda or simmilar cheep safe...
thom.
NEON271156 2 years ago 5
Man that is some nasty looking scum on the top of that cell. Pretty cool just the same.
jupy921 2 years ago
LET me Give you a tip!!!!!! Dont hook up the jumper cables right over an open cell!!! Ive blown them up in my face!!! Just got wet but its as loud as an M80
msdg137 2 years ago 5
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roulettebankroll 3 years ago
I like carbon or graphite but it heats up and degrades quickly.
cribcat1 3 years ago
I'd been wondering about graphite and if anyone has been tinkering with it.
rahdzhillaxxx 2 years ago
SSC's right, it'll puke garbage until you go to stainless. Another thing you might want to try that will improve output slightly is to feed power to opposite ends of the coils...
dlwammo 3 years ago
I might have to try the connections to oposite snds and see what kind of results I get. Thanks. Garbage is right! I'm still amazed at the results on my first try.
backyardpower 3 years ago
You will very quickly figure out why most use stainless steel.
Copper, Aluminum, Silver, Gold and Nickel have been tried by a numerous experimenters and we keep coming back to either 304 or 316 grade stainless.
Titanium and tungstun do offer promising results but they are a bit expensive for most to play with.
SmartScarecrow 3 years ago
Yeah, I've seen the results from most of the guys in this area and have duplicated the results so to speak. I found a sheet of 316L stainless about 24x36 and have a friend that can cut it with his laser system to exact sizes I want. I just need to calculate it out and figure out what pieces I want. I'm thinking something similar to ZFF's cell, maybe a little larger because of the container I have. This was just a cheap way for me to at least get started. Only $11 for the copper and 2 hours.
backyardpower 3 years ago
@SmartScarecrow ya well any one try tantalum? highly corosion resistant, just couldn't use a base salt(koh or NaOH) they are a few of the metals weaknesses. oh ya and I have like 4 #'s of tantalum strips.
Demonchld666 10 months ago
@Demonchld666 4#'s of the metal. i dkw it didn't write up like i typed it, but there ya go
Demonchld666 10 months ago