What this Skeptic Really Believes about Mike Adams - Part 1

[kakoathedog]

im all for the NWO, its going to kill off all these sort of people. happy days

[truthaddict1977]

your obviously an idiot hoping to sway other idiots to your mode of thought. The H1N1 hoax is a prime exaample i hope you enjoy hell. Anyone can discount many of your arguments through independant research or by simply reading vaccine inserts sleep well and spend your cfr money wisely TruthAddict

[MrSammy1776]

@truthaddict1977 agreed ,the side affects of vaccines are so obvious now,.although it is sort of funny watching dumb people plug their kids with poison,and start crying once their boy has autism,"why did it happen.....why..why" ahhhahhhahha.....

[RyuDarragh]

Hypnosis (Old word, Hypgnossis or, to bring the word derivation home, "Hypo gnossis" - Know less or, Unknowing) is simply suggestion. It is voluntary action brought on by a self induced trance state where a mind is convinced to lower guards and accept otherwise unacceptable suggestions. It can be looked upon as an intoxicated state of mind, or of a partial sleep state. Can it be used for good purposes? Sure. If, and I say IF, you are a professional mental health expert.

[FangFiftyFive]

4:24

I have to criticize your statement here. Having been to the third world (particularly in Latin America,) I can tell you that chlorinated drinking water is, doubtlessly, a good thing as a public health issue.

Statistically, (if you look at the history of places in the third world or in the US,) places with chlorinated drinking water are much healthier with less disease.

As for taste, it is not very noticeable if the chlorine is in a small enough quantity.

[RyuDarragh]

We do not live in a third world country in the US or UK. Not yet, anyway. Using chlorine sparingly and only when needed should be the guide word here. If you need to use chlorine in your drinking water, you need to fix your infrastructure. Proof is that chlorinating drinking water is not a panacea (plenty of organisms are not affected) and chemical contamination is also a danger. Use it when you absolutely have to... as a response, not a prohylaxis.

[ChrisJMoor]

Skeptics don't believe things without evidence, or try to avoid doing this. That is all we can say about them and this is the only thing I'd have to say to Mr. Adams on the matter but good job anyway.

[latuman]

Place the mic next to your mouth, not infront of it. Makes your voice much more pleasant.

[theinquisitor]

As I understand it, fluoride is naturally present in the water supply anyway, and the fluoride regulations sometimes require reducing the fluoride levels to the desired levels.

So Adams should be completely okay with fluoride in the water, because it's there in nature. But I suspect that facts never had much influence on his opinions.

[EvoBiologist]

NeoDolph1n, I agree with everything you said except for 1 point. The high mortality rates in US births is more likely a result of the extraordinarily high rate of c-sections (about double what the WHO recommends) and other birth interventions such as pain medications and induction that are pushed on women in this country without mention of possible harm to the child. A natural child birth supervised by trained professionals is at least as safe for low risk women and is more common in Europe.

[NeoDolph1n]

Fair enough :) I guess that was a bit of an unfair dig. In my defense, people like this(expletives removed) guy just make me (expletives removed) angry.

[EvoBiologist]

No problem. My wife just had a supervised home birth 4 months ago, and we did a lot of research on the topic beforehand. Certainly, some births (maybe 10-15%) require interventions, and the lack of such interventions gives 3rd world nations high perinatal mortality rates. However, the European countries with lower mortality rates than the US tend to have home births MORE commonly than in the US, not less, and have doctors less prone to intervene or to get that baby out before the weekend.

[Brianswers]

There is something wrong with the sentence 'skeptics believe'. Umm no, that's the point of being skeptical. You DON'T believe everything your told.

When are the skeptics he is talking about skeptical about exactly?

[fractal420]

Wow this guy is the king of Strawman fallacy.

We should nickname him the scarecrow.

[AlRasuwl]

If he only had a brain :-)

[Largo64]

I have to disagree with you about natural childbirth, however. Both of my brothers were born by natural childbirth, completely without complications. My sister and I would have been also, but in our births my mother was literally forced to take ether, which could actually have CAUSED complications like vomiting. That it didn't was lucky but by no means typical.

[NeoDolph1n]

I'm not saying natural childbirth always results in problems, not at all. I'm just saying that when it does (and it will, on occasion), it's a pretty good idea to have a doctor handy.

[Largo64]

@NeoDolph1n Absolutely! I wasn't talking about home birth with no doctor. My mother had the chief of obstetrics in the hospital where my brothers were born. My brother Jim was the first baby born in that hospital without anesthetics for the mother. The rest of the hospital staff thought the doctor was crazy. But he was the boss! Also a really good doctor. Now "natural" births in that hospital are routine.

[smaakjeks]

@Largo64

If you're a skeptic, you'll know that anecdotes aren't data. Having a baby in a hospital is what you do if you want to minize chance of injury or death to either the mother or the child(ren).

[Largo64]

@smaakjeks You're right. Look one comment up. I'm 67, and when I was born it was a matter of policy that mothers had to accept ether. A cloth soaked in ether was held over the mouth and nose. That was a pretty primitive, and even dangerous method of anesthesia. Today they use drugs that kill pain in the lower lumbar region (spinal block) without making the mother unconscious, and thus unable to help in the birth. "Natural," to me just meant without anesthetic, but not without medical support.

[AtheistMentat]

Ether, like any other drug, can cause medical problems especially in such volatile situations like childbirth where things can go from good to bad rapidly. However the same can be said of any drug used in any situation. The point is that they can be used to solve problems and save lives if applied by educated professionals. If your birth and your sister's took place in a hospital, you and your family were fortunate in that you had trained professionals there. It wasn't a matter of luck.

[Largo64]

@AtheistMentat When I was born, my mother was simply told she had to accept ether. When my sister was born, the doctor told Mom that she could remain conscious, but then she was actually held down and forced to inhale ether. In later days she would have sued, but my folks didn't believe in suing people. That doctor was a thug.

[Largo64]

(cont.) My sister was born in a clinic in Eugene, Oregon, which doesn't exist today (the clinic, that is!). Actually, in those days the infant mortality rate was higher than it is now, and it may be because mothers became sick from the ether, or because babies, still receiving umbilical blood, were affected by such foreign gasses. Mom and my sister and I were lucky.

[Largo64]

Anyone who says that ALL of any group of people thinks a certain way is either an idiot or a liar.

I am a skeptic, but I don't share any of Adams' beliefs about skeptics.

[Saukko31]

*facepalm and headdesk*

There are other wackos than creationists. I read about this from pharyngula (pz myers' blog), heck even finnish (my country of origin) bloggers were writing about it.