i dont like that look in my opinion but this has nothing to do with taking steroids. most steroids would make women bulky and big and muscular they are both very skinny. has nothing to do with steroids even though they have muscles. and madonna has been working out for a while so give her some credit shes like 50
These pictures have definitely all been photoshop'd .... I've been to Madonna's concert and I was standing right in fron of her. There was no sign of that mutilation.
Also imo every nomal person has days when he/she looks good, and days when one looks tired/exhausted. You cannot always expect a 100% top looking from people. This is JUST NOT POSSIBLE!
Intense yoga as practised in the West causes extreme vascularity (bulging veins), and Madonna is known to be a yoga fanatic. Perhaps that is the source of her deformity, along with being an extremist about most things.
porque no se dejan de decir pavadas madonna esta totalmente sana no tiene ninguna enfermedad y se ve bellisima siempre dejen de joder con el photoshoop
I think madonna's and sjp's lean, muscular arms are sexy and healthy. I don't think they're on steroids or else they might look more like those female body builders who are super "cock swole" like Arnold Schwareneggar was. The veins in Angelina Jolie's arms and hands are quite disturbing, however. I couldn't live with those.
Madonna and Jolie are professionals in the movie and music business. What supplements they take or which religion they practice is none of my business. And gossip just bores me. Madonna lies? So what. She does no harm. The food industry lies all the time and supermarkets are filled with unheathy junk food. Obesity, diabetes, heart disease is real damage. And the press also lies all the time.
Some people just don't have an interest in how people are manipulated by celebrities, and the agendas they serve...luckily for the world people like me just don't say "so what" "so what" "so what", everytime someone wants a peek behind the curtain.
Looking at your youtube video profile, you have contributed no videos on any matter of importance....or on any matter at all....I happen to not not be willing to join you in your apathetic silence.
i'm also curious to know how you think that this information can be of value to people? it seems to me that this kind of information would be extremely difficult to know about with absolute certainty for anyone who is not in close contact with these celebrities, and if it is true, it seems to me that it is simply a sad state and that it would be most effective to send loving energy to these individuals. is that what you are intending to do here?
hm. it has made me curious and so i have just listened to her song. madonna sings like an angel, i know that is true, no matter what else.. just like you, dieter braun.
I like Madonna as an artist however Madonna has been manipulating the masses for a long long time and commits many actions which are adversarial to God and the survival of the human species, therefore as we comprehend the strategies of Madonna, we comprehend the strategies of our adversaries, then we become closer to God.
why thank you for your reply ! Do you think that madonna has done this on purpose? it is my belief that any act that is adversarial to God is done unconsciously, as we are all pure love at the core of our existence. I am also curious about this in regards to the theory that we are all mirrors of one another, and that any short coming that we see in another is in fact a reflection of ourselves in order for us to see what needs to be healed within us. Kudos.
If someone is blowing smoke in your face and you ask them to stop.....are they a mirror for your subconscious, or perhaps do you simply not want smoke in your face and are taking steps to change the experience. ;)
that's so fake!!!! anyone can photoshop those :) madonna was in romania yesterday and she looked nothin like that. so fuck off! i dont even like her, but i hate when people LIE!
o big deal ive seen her arms in her new tour and they dont luk freaky 1of those pics has been photo shoped 2make her arms luk freaky,watch her on tour and ull see ther normal toned arms
Interesting.....all comments actually....really, as a 51 year old woman I have noticed most female actors or show people are seemingly plain ole not allowed to BE.....especially age....heaven forbid that one....leave the scene and then return as an old woman....not exactly the same for men.
Betya Madonna just works out!!! Perhaps as we marry the male and female inwardly we will all change...ready set go....
Madonna has lied about her plastic surgery on record....she studies jewish satanism..."the kabbala"....she's addicted to attention...she's proven that she's willing to manipulate and mislead the masses....she's not your average workout bunny. ;) Dieter
I am me My Energy....to the best of my ability in as many moments as possible. Personally we are all doing our best even Madonna .....I guess I am perhaps enjoying less gossip and more clouds these days. Less problem more solutions and sunshine....to each there own....empowerment to Earth and all her inhabitants..peace out bro...love and light
Indeed sister...the solutions are found in the details of the experience...therefore it's wise to focus on what one is experiencing and to know it well. ;)
Its a rainy day in southern california. To wet to do much other then talk about hormonal freak shows and testosterone flares of disruptive kamehamahea blasts from the north pole. Touche my feathered friends!!
madonna has just reported that she is gonna tone down her regimne and possible gte back to her 2005-2007 arm look and also angelineas arms have so many veins they look well more sik than madonna's but madonna was holding stuff in her hand and shes on tour so she is well more active
dieter... I live in BC near chilliwack :) I think it may also be that I'm physically active...gardening and little wordworking projects. I did notice the one day that my arms were looking kinda "boyish" you know right at the shoulders...my hands are getting the veiny look too eeeek! Its a hormone cocktail out there so who knows...
I recommend to keep detoxing with various regimes and drink lots of water....keep your body pH balanced. ;) Your right, it is a hormone cocktail out there.
What ever it is these woman have done to their diets, I never will. I noticed Madonna's arms sometime ago and it is not a typical change most women show with upper body workouts and healthy dieting. She and most Hollywood women end up altering their outer shell to the point of no return. I wonder if they are able to remain true and content on the inside after those significant unearthly looking changes.This behavior must have an effect on the spouse too.
It's totally normal. As we age, our skin gets a little thinner, and if you're active (and healthy) you're still building muscle - and the veins enlarge to bring more nutrients to the muscle. It's more noticable in the summer - the veins move outward toward the surface of the skin to help cool the blood and bring down the core temperature. There is actually more of a problem with estrogen in our food supply - this is why an increasing number of men devolop 'breasts'...
Yes some people have veiny arms....however don't feel this SITUATION is normal....particularly Madonna's BEHAVIOUR....that certainly isn't normal. Are Madonna's INTENTIONS to manipulate and control large numbers of adults and innocent children, normal? Is Madonna's study of jewish satanism normal?
The pictures of Madonna were especially alarming. The one of Michelle Obama was a joke, right? That one doesn't look real. Many blessings to you Indian!
a problem with vascularity and muscularity? christ...I'm sick and tired of people feeling the need to make negative criticisms about women's bodies (... to the extent of making video?). why don't you make a video of your own body so we can all give our opinions... I'm a woman who happens to be naturally muscular and quite vascular as well, esp. in summer. I'm active and take excellent care of myself... pitta-dosha people are just naturally made that way (ayurveda)...
We share information so that we can learn from each other. What I have learned from you for example, is that this subject is an emotional trigger for you and that it isn't for me. ;)
I feel videos like this are valuable to society, so that we can learn about how we are manipulated as a species by public people and the media, thus it feels very right to me to engage in this subject and make my positive contribution. ;)
No this video is not sharing information. It's sharing gossip and speculation. Same old tabloid-style bullshit.
Emotional trigger? So what. You've only proven you're a product of a materialistic society - and somehow imagine that you're above it. Positive contribution? Not even.
I am loving, this is why I have been able to assist you to cool your negative emotions around this subject.
This video in my conscious loving opinion shows various peeks behind certain carefully crafted public personas who work the system, in order to manipulate the masses at large often willfully so in a negative destructive way.
The Golden Age is built on the efforts of those who are able to shed their denial...this is where people like me are a huge help. ;)
My emotions aren't for you to cool. They are mine. I own them. You are not assisting me. I am free to be annoyed by your reckless assumptions (or not) and express it (or not). Your judgments and assessments that these women are taking male hormones indicate your lack of knowledge of the human body. It's fine to have a preference of body-types. We all do. But stop trying to pretend that what you have said here is 'loving'. It's not. Be Aware of yourSelf, fluffy-bunny man.
My comments are loving and I have assisted you. Deny it...your choice, your karma, your life.
I'm free to ask questions and the world is a better place because freethinkers question our reality...why do we do this? So that we can create something more harmonious with the rest of the Universe. ;)
Btw you have chosen a very appropriate name...I hope it continues to work for you.
Haha. Way to deflect - and refuse to observe yourself.
So here is a question.
How is what you're saying (that vascularity and muscularity in women is unnatural - 'cyborg' 'hideous' 'scary' - your own words ) - any different than the countless other negative messages about ideal appearance we are barraged with? Your comments are NO different.
My arms happen to look like Angelina's arms. I know lots of other women who are the same & it's a trait I (and they) can't help.
creating harmony would look much different, grasshopper. creating harmony would have started with a thoughtful and respectful query about the human body and all it's beautiful variety. maybe a trip to a clothing optional resort so you could see how many kinds of bodies there can be. Did you bother to ask any women (who work out, or use their muscles a lot?) if this could be normal before you made a video accusing A & M of taking steroids?
Let's please move on with our lives in grace and beauty! Why? Because your comments to engage with me without a demonstration of respect from you, are tiresome and needless.
Lol at the last pic
Dezzychioino 1 week ago
so they're veiny...
iemh1445 1 month ago
michelle obama swoll as fuck
JRWolfgang1 2 months ago
for sure. anyone into roids bodybuilding woulndt even doubt about it. my 2 cents.
giugnhgbvinierngvb89 1 year ago
She looks horrible I don't know how pleople think she's hot
1nV1nC1Bl3BaLaM 1 year ago
you must be stupid!! i guess you r jealous that some ethnicities can produce muscles unlike your sloppy indian body!!
Zewaldi0007 1 year ago
youre retarded, steroids causes a deeper voice
docdup1234 1 year ago
why have you photoshopped everything....this is beyond stupid.
Stimpynator 1 year ago
Thnx for making me horny!
CharlieAlfaFoxtrot 1 year ago
i dont like that look in my opinion but this has nothing to do with taking steroids. most steroids would make women bulky and big and muscular they are both very skinny. has nothing to do with steroids even though they have muscles. and madonna has been working out for a while so give her some credit shes like 50
SassyQ87 1 year ago
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lilfrenchy1998 1 year ago
It's spelled "stupid".....no comment! Dieter
Indianinthemachine 1 year ago
These pictures have definitely all been photoshop'd .... I've been to Madonna's concert and I was standing right in fron of her. There was no sign of that mutilation.
Also imo every nomal person has days when he/she looks good, and days when one looks tired/exhausted. You cannot always expect a 100% top looking from people. This is JUST NOT POSSIBLE!
marclaumann 2 years ago 3
I'm not expecting her to look 100%...have you ever thought that Madonna was involved in evil, and evil must bear it's clues? Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
Both of their arms looks very disturbing. There's nothing sexy about these pictures at all.
meko390 2 years ago 2
my nuts itch
aguystudio 2 years ago
Intense yoga as practised in the West causes extreme vascularity (bulging veins), and Madonna is known to be a yoga fanatic. Perhaps that is the source of her deformity, along with being an extremist about most things.
OKandNOWwhat 2 years ago
Photoshopped, end of story.
notbored12 2 years ago
they both look like they're dying
Sicvicious 2 years ago
porque no se dejan de decir pavadas madonna esta totalmente sana no tiene ninguna enfermedad y se ve bellisima siempre dejen de joder con el photoshoop
XADIE10 2 years ago
It did make me laugh, asshole, just kidding
KamikazeKoscki 2 years ago
LOL@ that last pic
galaxydreams 2 years ago
I've seen the bulging arm veins on very masculine males, mesomorphs.
rollsthepaul 2 years ago
Madonna looks like she has AIDS. Angie looks fine.
Reverendwyotech 2 years ago
I think madonna's and sjp's lean, muscular arms are sexy and healthy. I don't think they're on steroids or else they might look more like those female body builders who are super "cock swole" like Arnold Schwareneggar was. The veins in Angelina Jolie's arms and hands are quite disturbing, however. I couldn't live with those.
tifjackson 2 years ago
Madonna and Jolie are professionals in the movie and music business. What supplements they take or which religion they practice is none of my business. And gossip just bores me. Madonna lies? So what. She does no harm. The food industry lies all the time and supermarkets are filled with unheathy junk food. Obesity, diabetes, heart disease is real damage. And the press also lies all the time.
Obviously you have no clue about physiology.
So don't talk about anybody's arms.
Battlezone100 2 years ago
Some people just don't have an interest in how people are manipulated by celebrities, and the agendas they serve...luckily for the world people like me just don't say "so what" "so what" "so what", everytime someone wants a peek behind the curtain.
Looking at your youtube video profile, you have contributed no videos on any matter of importance....or on any matter at all....I happen to not not be willing to join you in your apathetic silence.
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
Madonna admits to be studying the kabbala...jewish witchcraft....there's nothing to speculate about her intentions there. ;)
D.
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
I am happy to have found your channel. I am new to Youtube, someone has mentioned you to me. Make us more videos ! blessings : )
ninelivesXinfinty 2 years ago
i'm also curious to know how you think that this information can be of value to people? it seems to me that this kind of information would be extremely difficult to know about with absolute certainty for anyone who is not in close contact with these celebrities, and if it is true, it seems to me that it is simply a sad state and that it would be most effective to send loving energy to these individuals. is that what you are intending to do here?
ninelivesXinfinty 2 years ago
hm. it has made me curious and so i have just listened to her song. madonna sings like an angel, i know that is true, no matter what else.. just like you, dieter braun.
ninelivesXinfinty 2 years ago
Thanks ninelivesXinfinity
I like Madonna as an artist however Madonna has been manipulating the masses for a long long time and commits many actions which are adversarial to God and the survival of the human species, therefore as we comprehend the strategies of Madonna, we comprehend the strategies of our adversaries, then we become closer to God.
I like your thinking.
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
why thank you for your reply ! Do you think that madonna has done this on purpose? it is my belief that any act that is adversarial to God is done unconsciously, as we are all pure love at the core of our existence. I am also curious about this in regards to the theory that we are all mirrors of one another, and that any short coming that we see in another is in fact a reflection of ourselves in order for us to see what needs to be healed within us. Kudos.
ninelivesXinfinty 2 years ago
Ask yourself this:
If someone is blowing smoke in your face and you ask them to stop.....are they a mirror for your subconscious, or perhaps do you simply not want smoke in your face and are taking steps to change the experience. ;)
Smoke and mirrors.
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
perhaps it would help, dieter, if you tell people how you know that this is true
ninelivesXinfinty 2 years ago
that's so fake!!!! anyone can photoshop those :) madonna was in romania yesterday and she looked nothin like that. so fuck off! i dont even like her, but i hate when people LIE!
wildangel20 2 years ago
Are you always an asshole when someone presents something beyond your existing reality, or did madonna simply trigger something special for you?
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
o big deal ive seen her arms in her new tour and they dont luk freaky 1of those pics has been photo shoped 2make her arms luk freaky,watch her on tour and ull see ther normal toned arms
GazMysticism 2 years ago
Interesting.....all comments actually....really, as a 51 year old woman I have noticed most female actors or show people are seemingly plain ole not allowed to BE.....especially age....heaven forbid that one....leave the scene and then return as an old woman....not exactly the same for men.
Betya Madonna just works out!!! Perhaps as we marry the male and female inwardly we will all change...ready set go....
landerlove2u 2 years ago
Madonna has lied about her plastic surgery on record....she studies jewish satanism..."the kabbala"....she's addicted to attention...she's proven that she's willing to manipulate and mislead the masses....she's not your average workout bunny. ;) Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
I am me My Energy....to the best of my ability in as many moments as possible. Personally we are all doing our best even Madonna .....I guess I am perhaps enjoying less gossip and more clouds these days. Less problem more solutions and sunshine....to each there own....empowerment to Earth and all her inhabitants..peace out bro...love and light
landerlove2u 2 years ago
Indeed sister...the solutions are found in the details of the experience...therefore it's wise to focus on what one is experiencing and to know it well. ;)
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
Its a rainy day in southern california. To wet to do much other then talk about hormonal freak shows and testosterone flares of disruptive kamehamahea blasts from the north pole. Touche my feathered friends!!
Cougar604 2 years ago
madonna has just reported that she is gonna tone down her regimne and possible gte back to her 2005-2007 arm look and also angelineas arms have so many veins they look well more sik than madonna's but madonna was holding stuff in her hand and shes on tour so she is well more active
motorolaQ9h 2 years ago
dieter... I live in BC near chilliwack :) I think it may also be that I'm physically active...gardening and little wordworking projects. I did notice the one day that my arms were looking kinda "boyish" you know right at the shoulders...my hands are getting the veiny look too eeeek! Its a hormone cocktail out there so who knows...
and yeah madonna arms do look hideously satanic!!
starzine 2 years ago
I recommend to keep detoxing with various regimes and drink lots of water....keep your body pH balanced. ;) Your right, it is a hormone cocktail out there.
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
What ever it is these woman have done to their diets, I never will. I noticed Madonna's arms sometime ago and it is not a typical change most women show with upper body workouts and healthy dieting. She and most Hollywood women end up altering their outer shell to the point of no return. I wonder if they are able to remain true and content on the inside after those significant unearthly looking changes.This behavior must have an effect on the spouse too.
vocalbrush 2 years ago 2
Great comments vocalbrush....;) Dieter
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FreedomForMankind 2 years ago
perhaps its because there is male hormones in the water....my arms are starting to look like that as I age too....my arms are ripped :D
starzine 2 years ago
It's totally normal. As we age, our skin gets a little thinner, and if you're active (and healthy) you're still building muscle - and the veins enlarge to bring more nutrients to the muscle. It's more noticable in the summer - the veins move outward toward the surface of the skin to help cool the blood and bring down the core temperature. There is actually more of a problem with estrogen in our food supply - this is why an increasing number of men devolop 'breasts'...
immayhem 2 years ago
Yes some people have veiny arms....however don't feel this SITUATION is normal....particularly Madonna's BEHAVIOUR....that certainly isn't normal. Are Madonna's INTENTIONS to manipulate and control large numbers of adults and innocent children, normal? Is Madonna's study of jewish satanism normal?
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
The pictures of Madonna were especially alarming. The one of Michelle Obama was a joke, right? That one doesn't look real. Many blessings to you Indian!
Lukieloo 2 years ago
Yup....I had to add it because it made me laugh. ;)
Thank you Lukieloo...:)
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
You little stinker! : )
Lukieloo 2 years ago
a problem with vascularity and muscularity? christ...I'm sick and tired of people feeling the need to make negative criticisms about women's bodies (... to the extent of making video?). why don't you make a video of your own body so we can all give our opinions... I'm a woman who happens to be naturally muscular and quite vascular as well, esp. in summer. I'm active and take excellent care of myself... pitta-dosha people are just naturally made that way (ayurveda)...
immayhem 2 years ago
We share information so that we can learn from each other. What I have learned from you for example, is that this subject is an emotional trigger for you and that it isn't for me. ;)
I feel videos like this are valuable to society, so that we can learn about how we are manipulated as a species by public people and the media, thus it feels very right to me to engage in this subject and make my positive contribution. ;)
Dieter
Indian in the machine
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
Btw, I have made a video of my feet which several thousand people have watched ....check them out!
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
No this video is not sharing information. It's sharing gossip and speculation. Same old tabloid-style bullshit.
Emotional trigger? So what. You've only proven you're a product of a materialistic society - and somehow imagine that you're above it. Positive contribution? Not even.
immayhem 2 years ago
"Let's bring in the Golden Age one loving thought at a time, one conscious moment at a time. ..."
Talk it? Try walking it.
immayhem 2 years ago
I am loving, this is why I have been able to assist you to cool your negative emotions around this subject.
This video in my conscious loving opinion shows various peeks behind certain carefully crafted public personas who work the system, in order to manipulate the masses at large often willfully so in a negative destructive way.
The Golden Age is built on the efforts of those who are able to shed their denial...this is where people like me are a huge help. ;)
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
My emotions aren't for you to cool. They are mine. I own them. You are not assisting me. I am free to be annoyed by your reckless assumptions (or not) and express it (or not). Your judgments and assessments that these women are taking male hormones indicate your lack of knowledge of the human body. It's fine to have a preference of body-types. We all do. But stop trying to pretend that what you have said here is 'loving'. It's not. Be Aware of yourSelf, fluffy-bunny man.
immayhem 2 years ago
My comments are loving and I have assisted you. Deny it...your choice, your karma, your life.
I'm free to ask questions and the world is a better place because freethinkers question our reality...why do we do this? So that we can create something more harmonious with the rest of the Universe. ;)
Btw you have chosen a very appropriate name...I hope it continues to work for you.
Fluffy-bunny man
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
Haha. Way to deflect - and refuse to observe yourself.
So here is a question.
How is what you're saying (that vascularity and muscularity in women is unnatural - 'cyborg' 'hideous' 'scary' - your own words ) - any different than the countless other negative messages about ideal appearance we are barraged with? Your comments are NO different.
My arms happen to look like Angelina's arms. I know lots of other women who are the same & it's a trait I (and they) can't help.
immayhem 2 years ago
Miss Mayhem,
My comments are directed to Madonna not you or all women with veiny arms...let's stick with the topic thank you.
Btw, normally I don't respond to disrespectful posters...consider yourself blessed with my patience. ;)
Fluffy Bunny Man
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
I have simply afforded your opinions as much respect as they deserve. And ~ you cannot rightfully defend them. Goodbye.
immayhem 2 years ago
creating harmony would look much different, grasshopper. creating harmony would have started with a thoughtful and respectful query about the human body and all it's beautiful variety. maybe a trip to a clothing optional resort so you could see how many kinds of bodies there can be. Did you bother to ask any women (who work out, or use their muscles a lot?) if this could be normal before you made a video accusing A & M of taking steroids?
immayhem 2 years ago
Let's please move on with our lives in grace and beauty! Why? Because your comments to engage with me without a demonstration of respect from you, are tiresome and needless.
Dieter
Indianinthemachine 2 years ago
Insulin will do that too.
odin422 2 years ago
kabalah
rblwoaclu 2 years ago
lol @ the michell obama pic!!
my question is why those weirdos keep adopting children...
MsCimarron 2 years ago
that's freaky.
madonna and angelina giv me the creeps when i see them in interview.
i think they r experimentin wit trying to become "super human."
a lot of celebs tinker wit that crap.
MsCimarron 2 years ago
What's with these women who are trying to look more masculine than men? I just don't get it.
mockymurmac 2 years ago
Nasty shes got the arms of a tennis player and the hands of a carpenter sans calouses.
imre420 2 years ago
*****
pauline404 2 years ago