Why the Constitution Had to Be Destroyed | Thomas J. DiLorenzo

[KillYourTeeVee]

restore the constitution!

we are americans first. stop fighting against people whose labels don't match yours. that's how they've divided us and conquered us. let's all fight to get our country back from a foreign banking cartel.

don't believe what you hear in mainstream media. do your own research on the internet and communicate with others.

end the federal reserve. end the constant wars. bring back a gold-backed currency.

RON PAUL 2012

[optionsupdate]

the US went bankrupt in 1938, it is in bankruptcy the courts are administrating the bankruptcy

[Jack95912]

5 people are Statists.

[wanker4761]

This kind of stuff is what gets the word out and may even save us. Keep the government out of the internet regulation biz.

[AveragePope]

I wish I was aborted

[vortican]

Mighty stuff. Thanks Tom DiLorenzo for what many more Americans need: an education in American history.

[IMurderdTheDevil]

THE CONSTITUTION IS THERE TO PROTECT US FROM OUR OWN GOVERNMENT,IMAGINE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONSTITUTION HOW MUCH FURTHER THEY WOULD GO.WAKE UP AMERICA.

[exiquio]

great opening music

[TBunetta]

This link needs to become VIRAL since Knowledge IS power, and we as a Nation are sadly lacking in this type of knowledge... by design of a government that has been slowly eroding the power and intent the Constitution was meant to have. Also read "The 5000 Year Leap".

Send this to all you know, the more liberal the better!

[dirint]

Ron Paul 2012!!

[fedupRaccoon]

DON'T TOUCH OUR CONSTITUTION LIVE BY IT INSTEAD OF DESTROYING IT!

[K20ej88]

Tom has a sick tan.

[MrPloppy1]

It would be nice if Mises re-published John Taylor's book in ePub.

(Archive-dot-org has it, but it's full of digital conversion errors.)

:)

[MikeSears100]

I wonder if Thomas Dilorenzo could give us an idea of what he thinks America would look like today had the Federalists not listen to Hamilton in the 1800 election and eventually the House of Representitves elect Aaron Burr?

[AXESMI]

Sounds like the Nationalist won unfortunately.

[dd00hli]

Krugmanisms! Lol

[dd00hli]

Hamilton was an agent of the rothchild power of London.

[dd00hli]

The anglosphere elite mercantile banksters keep ramping up the fear based promotions as dominant social themes. These fabricated directed history memes must be uncovered, exposed and destroyed at every turn. Let's use the constitution to fight the tyranny of the agents of the anglosphere.

[dd00hli]

The constitution is the single most important document period. It is the gradualism of the fabian socialist collectivists that would have the left think otherwise. What is so wrong with individual liberty?

[usagill]

The Mafia is alive and well in Washington's Military Industrial Complex and Prison Industrial Complex. Most members of congress are traitors.

[manufactured2012]

That's why America and Briton are called the "Anglo-American"l world power...not the American Anglo world power.

[Pete1987pl]

this video should have millions of views .

[Pete1987pl]

great video..great points

[Ltpeppers05]

Ron Paul! Ron Paul! Ron Paul!

[landofthefreemyass]

The constitution of no authority.

[RationalDischarge]

Has anyone else noticed that when you close your eyes, Tom DiLorenzo sounds like Joe Mantegna?

I start hallucinating that that Fat Tony character from the Simpsons is giving me a lecture about Austrian Economics.

[alique087]

I always giggle at political libertarians. During the time the government reformed and the constitution was created, this was never done to "limited the powers of the government". Prior to that, it was very hard for them to pass any law without, or close to, a super majority.

And even if it were created for such, is the constitution going to grow hands and take up arms against the government or something? The supreme court probably has the biggest incentive to disreguard the constitution.

[seeqr9]

@alique087 So a Republic served to do what better what people think Decmocracy does? Making it difficukt to pass laws is a good thing. No its not gonna grow arms. Thats why soldiers, law enforcment and officials pledge their arms to do it.

[alique087]

@seeqr9 Perhaps you misread my reply.

[seeqr9]

@alique087 perhaps. It does happen now and then.

[synestheticmonotony]

@alique087 "political libertarians"

Isn't that a tautology, or at the very least a redundancy? Libertarianism is political philosophy, so the adjective "political" before "libertarian" doesn't appear necessary at all.

In all honesty, most Austro-libertarians, an important distinction considering the video under discussion, don't see the US Constitution as a real limiting force, rather they see it as an utter failure. If anything, the return to the rule of law is merely a preliminary step.

[hamzah938]

Ron Paul - 2012

[tstruss912]

The constitution was written mostly for elite interests. That's why there was almost no ability to vote for the first 100 years. This country ran on slavery and domination then and it still does. I really don't know what you "libertarians" are talking about when you refer to this "great" constitution that used to exist.

[utubehayter]

@tstruss912

You seem to think that "libertarians" hold the ritual of voting, to be something good.... Or more particularly everyone being able to vote on everything to be a good thing. Libertarians believe that "You may not have any say on me and mine, and vice versa..".

Libertarians are generally opposed to the concept of general democracy as is the modern democracy.

[tstruss912]

@utubehayter Uhhh, "libertarians" (the neo-American version) are for an EVEN MORE extreme version of democracy than voting: they think that society can work if everything is done locally based on consensus. Sooo...what's your point again? My point is that the original constitution was even further from that ideal than our modern system. 99.9% of people had nothing to say under the old system. It was for rich, white land owners.

[utubehayter]

@tstruss912

Where the hell do you find these neo-American libertarians? None of the people I have met, that identify as libertarians are pro-voting or pro-democracy, let alone going even more extreme than democracy. You may note there are libertarian socialists aka left-libertarians who seem to match that definition. But they are not libertarians in the American sense.

[alique087]

@tstruss912 Exactly. It's a joke.

[tstruss912]

@alique087 Word. The power of propaganda on the mind always amazes me.  But, of course, now the elite are going too far. If they think Americans won't figure out that our voting/lobbying system must be majorly overhauled then they're deluded. I give this voting system five more years until people overthrow it.

[MrPloppy1]

@tstruss912 You can't blame the voting thing on the constitution. The constitution, for the most part, left the rules for how elections are run to the individual states, that includes who gets to vote. The constitution also didn't legalize slavery--that was a state thing.

If the constitution were strictly adhered to; each of us could live our lifes & very rarely bump into the fed govt. Each state could decide how crummy or free it wants to be, & we'd have 50 chances to achive the most freedom.

[tstruss912]

@MrPloppy1 That libertarian dream is a LOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGG way off. I'm a libertarian and I know that we must have ALTERNATIVE INSTITUTIONS setup before switching to a system like that. You're ignoring a massive number of institutions that are gov run that there's no alternative for at the moment. It will take hundreds of years to set up those alternative institutions. Destroying our semi-functional institutions for emotional reasons will only lead us into utter chaos....

[alique087]

@tstruss912 Why would it take hundreds of years? That's ridiculous. Not even the aftermath of the "civil war" needed that long. It's not as if your government creates any of the technology it uses.

[tstruss912]

@alique087 How many gov institutions have we replaced with some community-based alternative? Ya, go ahead and rethink that one. We'll never see that world--which you should get over--and we should STILL work towards it.

[alique087]

@MrPloppy1 The most freedom is no government.

[synestheticmonotony]

@alique087 I would agree if you had said, "the most freedom is found without a state". However, in order for society to function governance must be present. The difference lies in the arbiters of such governance: shall it be a monopoly power-center, or shall it be from the market (an arena of private property and voluntary exchange)? I prefer an emergent governance provided by the market, as I see this as the only just system of governance.

[alique087]

@synestheticmonotony How is voluntary exchange some how related to government? A government is a group of men who rule over other men. This never happens voluntarily. I'm not understanding here. Elaborate.

[synestheticmonotony]

@alique087 Are you familiar with Rothbard?If so, then you should be familiar with his construct of stateless governance and law (i.e. non-monopolistic, market-based governance/law).The point that I am trying to make is that "anarcho-capitalism" is not without governance per se, it is just without a monopoly state. The governance in the Rothbardian schema is found in the market, where there exists no monopoly, only arbiters chosen by market participants (private property and voluntary exchange).

[alique087]

@synestheticmonotony The way you're using the term governance is not synonyms with saying government. By definition, a government is a group that controls the state and rules over a region. it is involuntary. Anything else is not a government as we're using it. There's no doubt in a free market situation there would be order and "governance", but that isn't the same as having a government.

[synestheticmonotony]

@alique087 Yes, this is true. I do not conflate the term "governance" with the monopoly entity "Government". The rule of law requires governance of come sort regardless of the form (i.e. how arbiters/archons are chosen), however, this is not to be misconstrued as support for an entity called "Government". The Rothbardian construct includes governance through market-chosen arbiters/archons, but it does not require a "state" or a monopoly "Government" entity.

[synestheticmonotony]

@alique087 Sorry, that should be "governance of some sort", not "governance of come sort". Typo....

[synestheticmonotony]

@tstruss912 I think it is abundantly clear that "libertarians" (esp. Austro-libertarians) don't think that the constitution is all that "great". In fact, I would tend to think that that is part of TD's argument in this video, that the constitution was ultimately a failure.

[selfrealizedexile]

@synestheticmonotony

The US Constitution was actually a radical expansion of governmental power in its day from the Articles of Confederation and was opposed by a large section of the population. I have never seen nor do I ever expect to see a day where a gov't writes a law limiting itself. Liberty is not given; in this merciless world, it is only gotten through the blood, tears, and wits of those who seek and earn it.

[tstruss912]

@synestheticmonotony That's not clear to me at all. All the RP types talk about the Constitution like it's a god. If Austro-Libs don't then that's good to hear, you guys seem to be a small minority....

[synestheticmonotony]

@tstruss912 Austro-libertarianism pretty much spans the libertarian spectrum from classical liberalism (e.g. Mises/Hayek) to anarcho-capitalism (e.g. Rothbard/Hoppe). Ron Paul falls more into the classical liberal spectrum, thus he attracts far more people of a constitutional republic mindset. However, anarcho-capitalists also see a move toward constitutional government as a positive step toward the reestablishment of the rule of law (a major sticking point for all Austro-libertarians). 

[TheChannelZeroNews]

Which constitution are you referring to?

[synestheticmonotony]

@TheChannelZeroNews Considering that this is an American speaker, at an American event, the hosting body is an American institution and that the speaker is specifically talking about American history; I would just pose a blind guess and say that the "constitution" in question is the US Constitution.

Let me guess: you're commenting upon the title of the video without having actually watched the video or read its description? This would seem to be the dominant meme on YT today.

[TheChannelZeroNews]

@synestheticmonotony There was a united states of North America constitution, but that got suspended during the Civil War. Afters the same entity lost it's sovereign powers to deal with Nations/Countries(i.e., Kings & Queens), & came the United States, inc.(District of Columbia Act 1870). I ask to see which one*(since the 13 colonies). Thanks for your kind words. : )

*(avalondotlawdotyaledotedu; Abraham Lincoln's statement preceding the Emancipation Proclamation)

[TheChannelZeroNews]

@synestheticmonotony correction: Afterwards

[TheChannelZeroNews]

@synestheticmonotony Btw, what is this 'American'?

[MirageScience]

The constitution is a joke, not because of the ideas it supports like respecting individual rights and everyone being a soverign but because it's nonbinding. Social contracts are illegitimate. I live in the United States because I was born here not because I accept the government.

New social contract which i will ahave some people sign off on: Everyone is subject to my will, expecially if my will conflicts with their own. Oh and everyone has to pay me 50% of their take-home income.

[MirageScience]

@MirageScience If no one likes that then you could of course just move out of the geographical united states.

[garybrownfie]

@MirageScience It wasn't meant to be binding on the individual but rather the government.

[MirageScience]

@garybrownfie It's binding on the people as they must accept those elected as their representative, and those laws passed as laws governing themselves. It seems rather silly to say the constituion doesn't bind the people when it itself claims the government is from by and for the people. What do you think "for" means? "The Congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes,duties, imposts, and excises, to pay the debts and provide the common de fence and general welfare..."

[utubehayter]

@MirageScience

"the government is from by and for the people"

The constitution makes no such claim. Wherever it claims to speak for the people, it is a fraudulent document.

[tstruss912]

@utubehayter  Yep. The federalist papers are propaganda. Sadly, history shows that quite clearly...

[nurbSoldier]

@MirageScience this reminds me of the people who say that the bible is true because the bible says it is true

[MirageScience]

@nurbSoldier are you saying im doing that? Can you not read? I was showing how the constitution claims powers over the people. If you want to say its circular reasoning to say it claims it because it does right there in text then you're stupid. I'm not the one saying it's legitimate I'm saying its bogus and there is no reason to even try and go back to some social contract government. Hopefully I just misunderstood you and you where talking about the other guy, or the video.

[garybrownfie]

@MirageScience What I mean is that the constitution "binds" or in other words "keeps" the government from infringing on personal liberty or at least is supposed to. We the people have allowed the courts and politicians to circumnavigate the law and slowly take liberty away.

[MirageScience]

@garybrownfie I know what you meant, I used to call myself a constitutionalist, but the comment you replied to was refering to this idea of a social contract and that idea in particular is used to legitimize the constution including the powers given to the branches of government. The whole point being I didn't sign the dotted line saying I can be taxed for anything some representative thinks is best rational or irrational, it's my agency not to be delegated and I didnt delegate it.

[dapop1001]

"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so they will not become the legalized version of the first." ~ Thomas Jefferson

[furyofbongos]

@dapop1001 - /watch?v=ngpsJKQR_ZE

[markdeming1989]

@dapop1001 wow, that's possibly the most epic quote i'v ever read...

[saturnined]

@dapop1001 Right! Then he said, "Vote RonPaul 2012"

(great quote)

[HJBounell]

Bravo

[ThisAintKyle]

love the new mises intro...

[dustofseven]

Thank you for the true history lesson!