Christian king of Ethiopia changes the course of history

[abyss343]

Of course Ethiopia was a Christian kindgom then!!! Ethiopia adopted Christianity around the 4th century during King Ezana of Axum's reign. He was converted to Christianty, and thus Christianity became the state religion, and the people were converted 2. Ethiopia actually claims to have accepted Christianity from the Apostles themselves. The conversion of the Ethiopian Eunuch (Acts 8:26-40 the Bible) by Philip.

[SimpleK1987]

U kno what the foolish ting is...In those days there wasn't any word called Christian..so why Historians refer to the early Ethiopian Kings & priests as Christian when they practiced Judaism until the Portuguese Jesuits arrived in Ethiopia. Stop fooling ppl Historians!! There was not & still there isn't any thing about Christians in the Bible. Jesus Christ name is Yahushua Ha Mashiyach & Jesus Christ has pagan roots in the formation of this name. Ethiopia is blessed & Set Apart after Israel.

[guyKLumpur]

@SimpleK1987 u r correct, Isa son of Mariam came not to bring a new religion but rather to correct the practice of Judaism which has deviated from the original teaching of Moses. Thus Isa Son of Mariam too is a Jew. Am I correct to say that the Judaism practiced today's Ethiopia is that of after the coming of Isa Son of Mariam? There is no such thing as the religion called Christianity anyway. it was called "Christianity" by pagan group to those followers of Isa son of Mariam later after that.

[SimpleK1987]

@guyKLumpur U understand where I'm coming from. The only thing i'm confused with is who Isa Son of Mariam??? I know him (Jesus) if u referring to him as Yahushua or Yahusha Ha Mashiach son of Mariam & Joseph from the Seed of Jesse & from the Tribe of Judah. Judaism in Ethiopia is a mixture of what the Portuguese Jesuits who came to Ethiopia told them about the Messiah & teachings of the New Testament. Before that the only practiced Judaism because there were ppl from Judah living in Ethiopia

[SimpleK1987]

U kno what the foolish ting is...In those days there wasn't any word called Christian..so why Historians refer to the early Ethiopian Kings & priests as Christian when they practiced Judaism until the Portuguese Jesuits arrived in Ethiopia. Stop fooling ppl Historians!! There was not & still there isn't any thing about Christians in the Bible. Jesus CHrist name is Yahushua Ha Mashiyach & Jesus Christ has pagan roots in the formation of this name. Ethiopia is blessed & Set Apart after Israel.

[guyKLumpur]

I suppose at this point of time, the Christian King practiced the direct teaching which came from the holy land, and not from Europe which was preached by Paul. These Christian are referred to as the People of Books (Ahli Kitab).

[SimpleK1987]

@guyKLumpur Ethiopian Civilization never was considered Christian in Biblical days. The word Christ or Christian is a false representation of our Messiah. Ethiopia stretched forth there hands to Yah in the days of King Solomon when his son with Queen of Sheba started d 1st Monotheistic Empire in Ethiopia which was previously Pagan. Judaism is still alive in Ethiopia & i sure u have heard of the Falasha Jews who have done DNA testing to prove to the doubters. Israel then Ethiopia not Rome!!!

[dontebone]

they were not for long,but they were colinize

[warrenharper]

What movie was this take from, fam?

[Sogwa]

l guess lslam diverted from respecting women as ='s to their captures opinion of women. Worthless like cattle to be bought, used, and sold. l wonder how many decades (if that long) it took lslam to go from "women's =ity & rights" to woman as useless baggage to beat, misuse, and mistreat?

[tenorismo]

HHmmmmmmmm clitoral circumcism.

[tryanjohnson]

Ethiopia has the largest number of UNESCO World Heritage Sites in Africa.

[menelikmen]

And there is more.

Ishaq:144 "A rock was put on a slave's chest. When Abu Bakr complained, they said, 'You are the one who corrupted him, so save him from his plight.' I will do so,' said Bakr. 'I have a black slave, tougher and stronger than Bilal, who is a heathen. I will exchange him. The transaction was carried out."

[menelikmen]

This is MarkelLion they are talking these rebell. Black Ethiopian/Eritreans slaves who where fighting for their freedom and oppression under arab rule. Yemen was a part of the Axum Kingdom. Eritrean Ethiopian Lands.

Ishaq:374

"The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, 'Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.'"

[armachiho]

@menelikmen wen were ethiopian/eritreans slaves to arabs?

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho Never! We have never been the slaves to the homo arabs, but the protectors of the companions of the Prophet, and a bedrock of Islam as well as early Christianity. It wasn't AFTER the Prophet Muhammed's death that the Arabs revealed their racism and attacked us. The African-arab Al Jahiz wrote in his book"The Book of the Glory of the Blacks over the Whites" of our accomplishments and greatness. It lives on today brother.

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon I meant that "menelikme" guy wrote something about ethiopian slaves fighting for freedom in sauda arabia; so my question was out of astonishment of curiosity. Even Muhammed was a racist, you know how arabs r when they r in need they look like the most innocent ppl, when they're in power though they treat everyone around like waste.

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho Especially us. Did you know that Abyssinian men were highly sought out for castration? Or that our women were and still are their concubines? I maybe Eritrean, but you are my Ethiopian brother. No matter what religion I follow, I'm Black First!

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon Christianity isn't a religion ITS REAL. Judaism and christianity were the only faiths who's code of law is derived from the living God, who's faithful saw His wonders and miracles for them to believe in, unlike other religions, who from standpoint was created from fear and obedience to its priest or religious figure. Another thing, fuck being black, this or that, I stand with any good-hearted human being first no matter the faith or color. The days of division are over.

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho Do what you want. Keep talking about how we're all the same. It doesn't work, never works. I don't care your religion and false god. You can't even prove your Ark of the Covenant.

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon IF your such a separatist just stop typing, and who again was talking about the Ark of the Covenant??????? your so random... weird.

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho I'm beyond separatist; I do what I want.

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon  One time your saying we were never arab slaves then you tell me Abyssinian men were highly sought out for castration? Just shut up with your baseless remarks and talk about something real.

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho Baseless? Research, you dumbass. Ethiopia didn't end slavery until the 1920's. Slave boys were typically castrated to serve as harem guards; women were concubines, you know, play things.

By the way, I never said your people were slaves. I stated slaves came from the Horn of Africa in large numbers. Obviously our ancestors weren't.

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon Eh buddy, keep talking your nonsense but dont say im a dumbass, I wish God gave you the chance to say it to my face instead of typing it like a little girl, I'd teach you respect then.

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho You sure about that? Now who's talking tough online? Easily spooked huh? Ha haha

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon Oh man get a life or something. Dammmmmmmmmnnnnnnnnnnn

[ethi0nz]

How old is Meroe?

[markellion]

@ethi0nz Encyclopædia Americana 1845 says this and is supported by Diodorus Siculus's account

"Several colonies went from Meroe, and the first civilized state in Egypt, that of Thebes, which, as a resort for the caravans, always remained intimately connected with Meroe, and was governed by priests, must have originated thence"

[BigPreme]

@markellion There is a kingdom in Northern Sudan that predates Egypt by at least 200 years, they had pharaohs, hieroglyphics and tons of other things before Egypt every did. Look up Qustul or Ta-Seti.

[NegusMemnon]

@ethi0nz

dude The real name of Meroe was "Saba"

Cambyses changed the name of the city from Saba to Meroe.

Queen Hatshepsut who ruled Egypt and Ithiopia was Queen of Sheba.

[coincui]

@NegusMemnon What is the movie inside your video?

[XuanDi]

@NegusMemnon

what evidence could you refer me to, id like to look into that, i always wondered who the Queen of Sheba was equal too

[BlackReignForever]

Another triumph Markellion. We get The Ten Commandments shoved down our throats but a movie like this isn't even mentioned.

[markellion]

What do you think about decolonizing religion.

During the colonial era they talked about defeating both "paganism" and Islam in Africa and if they couldn't eliminate Islam they would infuse it with a Christian spirit (European Christianity)

They also didn't care for native African Christianity. Perry Noble called the Ethiopians the world's only Christian barbarians. I'll send you some sources but ya I've even read a eugenicist a century ago complain that Arabs treat "blacks" as equals

[BlackReignForever]

I think that it's impossible for religion to be divorced from politics. Too many people have realized that the power doesn't come from the diety, it comes from the oracles/priests.

However the Africans have managed (through their purist ideals) to bridge the gap between spirituality and non-political power.

And as for arabs treating blacks as equals. That's one person's opinion. The east African slave trade is the truth. I've seen nothing to indicate the arbas had anything but hate for us.

[markellion]

Ya but Arab racism couldn't have developed before the 18th century at the earliest

[kemetkush]

markellion; most african-americans will agree with you on some things, and thank you for them, but we know the racists arabs, are the real enemy of the blackman.

[markellion]

What I'm talking about is a system that entrenches itself in all aspects of society

You are probably being too sensitive with this comment since all groups are discriminated against "indicate the arbas had anything but hate for us."

[markellion]

Also Arabs are multi-racial

[markellion]

Actually when I was talking about decolonizing religion I actually was also thinking about "Arab" racism which obviously comes from western colonialism

[BlackReignForever]

Well as far as decolonizing religion goes, I don't think it's possible.

You'll pretty much have to start over again, which considering how religion has been corrupted woudln't be a bad idea.

And, because I feel the need to say it, no i'm not being "sensitive" about the arabs. Simply stating the facts. Arab racism goes back LONG before the 1800's. I don't care for arabs and will throw the biggest party my town's ever seen if the Africans wise up and toss them out.

[markellion]

That is a very dangerous way to think you can't just draw arbitrary barriers what between people

It's no different than Hutus and Tutsis. You can't think of it as us and them

[markellion]

You also have to understand migrations went in both directions so its not just "Arabs" going into Africa

[markellion]

BTW about the slave trade I think it will make more sense if you see Arab slave traders as being like any other African slave trader. In East Africa it had mostly to do with the disruption of trade due to the Portuguese so the Omani Arabs took advantage of the havoc and they turned to slave exports

This is very similar to the Dahomeans who also took advantage of the havoc created by Europeans by conquering the region and created an economy based heavily on slave exports

[PeaceAndJustice357]

I beg to differ! You must not have a concise understanding of the pscychological effect of the Europeans on the Africans. You should see a DVD called "Good Bye Uncle Tom" And the horrific export of African women by the Arabs for sex purposes only, you can only imagine that there were alot of child rapist and fagits in those days. I say this because you statement seems appeasing to the reader as if the effect was not that harsh mentally,culturally in all forms

[markellion]

I agree it was horrible. I see Arabs as related to Africans and the situation similar to other conflicts in Africa

[iArsalan]

You obviously haven't read historical accounts about the harems of Moorish sultans and the Emperors of Mali. They speak quite boastfully of the slave women from Aethiopia, Europe, and Persia.

The foreign accounts are not alone in this as the Jali (griot) tradition of the Mande (Mali), of which I am an initiate, speak of the Mansas and Farbas of ancient Mali having thousands of concubines and slaves from as far away as Europe.

[iArsalan]

It is true that the treatment of slaves in Africa was nothing like the abuses heaped upon slaves in the West, but abuses did occur and they were meeted out by our ancestors long before Europeans were empowered.

I call your attention to this not out of anger but hope. Hope that you will live up to your moniker. You call yourself PeaceAndJustice; there can be no peace nor justice where there is slavery.

You must be as adamant in attacking it when it is the act of those you call your own.

[markellion]

The Zulu in south Africa were just as brutal taking advantage of the havoc brought by Europeans except capturing cattle instead of slaves.

You notice all three Arabs, Dahomeans and Zulus assimilated people that they didn't kill or sell

[BlackReignForever]

King leopold was repsonsible for the murder of over 10 million people in the Congo.

You want to compare Zulus playing at being cattle snatchers to that?

Okay. We're just gong to have to agree to disagree on this one then.

[markellion]

I wasn't comparing to king Leopold.

[iArsalan]

Have you been to Saudi Arabia? ("Land of the Black Lords" in Arabic)

Have you been to countries where Africans claim Arab descent? Was it not Dr. Ben Yachonen who said "go to the ground"?

If you did these things with an open mind you'd realize that the situation is far more complex than you realize. You'd see Arabs in the royal family as dark as the Blackest African. You'd see how they regularly marry Nubian wives.

We solve nothing by imposing our world view on places where it is irrelevant.

[markellion]

Wow. The public needs to be aware of these things

[markellion]

@iArsalan Could you make a video or something to spread this knowledge?

[Temtem19]

Wow iArsalan. I learned a few things just by your posts below, thank you. What are your views on the treatment of blacks/Africans on the whole living in 'Arab' Countries. I know the issue is complex as, as you pointed out, their are millions of Arab blacks as well and they are an integral part of Arab history, but I keep hearing about the mistreatment of blacks in Egypt, Iraq, Palestine, Sudan etc .

[iArsalan]

The problem, as I've seen it, is more of a class issue. In those countries you've mention, Africans are certainly mistreated, but that depends far more on their individual social and political affiliations than any perceived racial differences.

I've sense Arabs treat Africans with disdain and I've witness them treating them with brotherhood and reverence. But those countries mistreat just about everyone in the society in different ways. Those are highly repressive dictatorships.

[Temtem19]

Is it not true that most Arabized blacks today would never see themselves as or associate themselves as being (black) African but rather see themselves as Arabs?

[kemetkush]

who made this movie---when and where was this movie made.

[markellion]

There is a whole 17 part video uploaded here on youtube called "The Message of Islam"

The only part I watched was the part I uploaded

[kemetkush]

do you know who made this movie and when was it's made

[hard2getutubname]

It was made in the seventies.

By a guy named something Akkad i think.

Actually a very good movie and i suggest that you would see it.

[markellion]

I don't know

[oramikleepunk]

Alot of these people were brainwashed by Replacement Theology...

[congobigp]

Markellion, what is the name of the movie?

[markellion]

I just now found where the whole movie is, search on Youtube "the message of islam"

[RevolutionaryINK]

Markellion, I must say you do some pwerful videos. Question, as far as you know, did the Nubian / Ethiopian christians adopt their christianity from elsewhere, like say the Byzantine empire, or Did they Originate Ancient Christianity? That question is key, and I am looking for the answer. Your thoughts?

[iArsalan]

The Ethiopian Christians credit their conversion to Philipos a follower of the Byzantine church. For a time they were linked to the Coptic church in Egypt but soon centralized their own church authority.

[emajoronline]

I would beg to differ. Bible states that Yeshua/Jesus brother,Simeon was a Niger(Ethiopian King).Acts 13:1

[iArsalan]

Niger doesn't mean Ethiopian King in Hebrew, Amharic, or English. Negast is the Amharic word for king and Najashim would be the Hebrew equivalent. I'm a speaker of both languages. Niger is a late translation of English meaning "Negro". Hebrews having "negro" ancestry was not uncommon since Moses's wife was a Kushite.

[emajoronline]

watch?v=bGdCeMayUjk

Niger = Nigga = Negus = Ethiopian King. Check out the vid above.

[iArsalan]

That video's an horrible example.

The word Niger didn't exist prior to the 1500s. You should read an Aramaic bible to get the actual word that was used there then translated to 'Niger' in King James or whatever you're reading.

As for the etymology of Niger, it is derived from the French exploration of the river Niger in West Africa. Words such as 'nigger' and 'denigrate' are derived from Niger.

Also, the Negus was the KING of a superpower not the poor son of a lowly Hebrew carpenter.

[emajoronline]

If you think Yeshua's father was a poor carpenter, you're sadly mistaken. I guess you think Mary was a virgin too. That's story is a myth taken from earlier myths.

Yeshua was educated in Kemet and comes from Royalty. David, Solomon were not poor. Furthermore, Negus(NGS) is Ge'ez/Amharic which the word Niger comes from. Africans don't typically don't pronounce words in "ER"

I digress. No since of going to and fro. The stories have been changed up countless of times.

[ethi0nz]

What kind of idiot are you? Ethiopia and nigger do not go together. Ethiopia the only nation to have never been colonized and we kicked your white ass numerous times. Don't try to degrade us just because your kind couldn't colonized our strong nation like you did to most of the world.

[boogie213]

What does NGR mean in hebrew and does the names of the countries Niger and Nigeria have anything to do with the hebrew word NGR?

[iArsalan]

Niger and Nigeria comes mainly from an old reference Ptolemy made to a river south of the Sahara. As far as I know it has nothing to do with Hebrew etymology.

Here are African names for that river:

Songhai: Isa Ber (Great River)

Bambara: Joliba

Yoruba: Oya

Tuareg: Gher n Gher (River of rivers)

Modern Nigeria: Kworra

To my knowledge there are no languages in Africa that use a word that sounds remotely similar to "Niger" for the name of that river.

[boogie213]

I looked up NGR in a hebrew-english lexicon (crosswalks i recall) and in it it gave the definition of "bubbling forth" and so i thought thats why those to countries were named so.

[iArsalan]

Furthermore, Ethiopian in the Bible means Nubia which also adopted Christianity after the Axumite conquest. The Ethiopian church adopted their present script for liturgy based on Greek and Ge'ez (their original language).

[Sethe8]

I thought Nubia was the Sudan.

[iArsalan]

Nubia, depending on the time period, historically stretched from Southern Egypt starting at Aswan then proceeding deep into central Sudan with the southern-most kingdom reaching south of present day Khartoum.

The Greeks and Romans referred to Nubians as Aethiopians. They also referred to the Arabs of present Saudi Arabia as Eastern Aethiopians because they were a vassal state of Axum in present day Ethiopia.

[markellion]

Oh my God!

There are encyclopedias from a century ago that say "The Abyssinian monasteries are known to possess large numbers of (Ethiopian) manuscripts."

Ethiopian meaning Nubian

and another said that Axum was a colony of Meroe. In other words Axum culture is rooted in Nubia.

[ethi0nz]

Actually Axum conquered Meroe at around the 4th century.

[markellion]

@ethi0nz Axum was also a colony of Meroe. Watch:

"Ethiopian origin of Aksum"

[ethi0nz]

Ethiopia was never a colony. Ethiopia is Axum and Axum is Ethiopia.

[markellion]

@ethi0nz And Axum was a colony of Meroe! Ethiopia in the old days was often referring to people living in modern day Sudan

[ethi0nz]

How old is Meroe? Axum is the home of Queen Sheba. Does Meroe date back to Queen Sheba?

[markellion]

@ethi0nz These same people colonized Egypt according to Diodorus Siculus

[Superseadragon]

@ethi0nz Ancient Ethiopia was a Greek name for Nubia. Not Abyssinia.

[armachiho]

@Superseadragon All the lands south of egypt was named ethiopia

[Superseadragon]

@armachiho You are half correct. Nubia was the same name for Black lands south of the 1st Cataract in the Nile. Read "They Came Before Colmbus" by Ivan Van Sertima, or "The Destruction of Black Civilization" by Chancellor Williams. One Love, Black First!

[iArsalan]

I don't know why people try to claim that Christianity started in Ethiopia when it clearly did not; the Ethiopian church doesn't even make the claim. The Ethiopians descend from a tradition longer lived than Christianity. I suggest you look up the Sabeans when Sheba hails. Their culture and religion is the basis for all of Ethiopian culture and even their practice of Christianity. This is a monotheistic religion that predates Christianity and is even lauded in the Quran.

[lionzion22]

Yemen (Saba) was a colony of Ethiopia. I wouldn't get it twisted that highland Ethiopian culture is a transplant from across the sea.

[oramikleepunk]

Non Jews didn't originate christianity...the Torah did.Replacement Theology will brainwash people.

[504boi8wd]

who do you consider the non jews???

[ethi0nz]

Two Syrians introduced Christianity to Ethiopia in the 4th century. Ethiopia then became the second official Christian nation in the world.