our monetary and credit systems are slave systems, he is right working ppl are slaves,if you dont pay companies money they cut off water,and you will go thirsty,without paying the power company you lose your electricity and can burn up during the summer and freeze during winter.our society, tells you to not feed someone that isnt working,How the hell is that ever gonna create a better world,sHOULD I allow some1 to die of staravtion,just because they arent working,No wonder we are How we are now
This is interesting, and there is something to the inevitability of the increase of machinery. However, I see a few problems. If we don't work, then we will likely do a lot of creative activities. So, if I wanted a guitar, how would I get one? Is there a guitar machine that makes guitars? Who oversees the guitar machine?
Also, if this future world is stateless, who operates and controls the machines? Technocratic elite?
@SHADOWPLAYROCKnROLL every animal, actually every organism on earth needs to work to stay alive. animals spend most of their day searching for water and food. Humans are lucky that we have time to do what we want, and still be able to make money at work. we are able to not spend all of our day not foraging for food. but whats great is that under a democracy you can do what ever you want, and live how you want to. money is necessarily and makes life easier.
It's good to watch a vid with Jacque again. I felt very sad and depressive in the last days. But it's good to see that there are ppl world who think the same way I do. Life is so much better w/o a facebook acc :)
I was following with these guys until the "incentives" point.
They simply state "If you provide people with the necessities of life, then people's perceptions will change. Never mind the fact that they dodge the question as to HOW we provide EVERYONE with the "necessities" of life (that they never define).
This is all theoretical, far out thinking that has no basis in reality. There are so many variables these "thinkers" aren't addressing its impossible to discuss on Youtube comments.
@Shaymeonyoo How about you research abit more and watch as much videos as possible of Jacques Fresco... I believe you will find HOW to do it and what not.. I wont bother explaining you cuz i dont know if your genuinely interested or just watched this 1 video and started judging people.. Anyways you'll find the answer if your curious enough or fuck it lets go to 9-5 and get money. Bye
@Shaymeonyoo Just checked your channel and saw your comments on other videos. With your closed mindset I dont expect you to understand this but ill give it a try..Name me 1 scientist/pioneer who's main motivation for his work was money! Yea thought so..unless you got your facts messed up lol.
@Shaymeonyoo Then with this mindset you should be brave and take these principles to the extreme like Hitler did or your surely a wimp under your own assumptions of this view. It's proven that societies that work together are stronger, surely an intelligent culture would benfit through collaboration rather than "competing" which often leads to cheating one another and dishonesty. Natural selection is a concept, like culture is a concept, we have the ability to be anything we choose.
Why does Joseph put in the future city designs by Fresco (such as at 2.00), does he not realize how idiotic they look and how much it undermines everything he is saying?
system any longer, then we'll be stuck in this adolescent, this infantile state where we kill each other for money, where thousands die of hunger, where people spend their potential working in monotonous jobs, and ruin the very place that keeps us alive. We have to upgrade our values. I understand that I can't convince anyone, but I hope you keep an open mind to the possibilities.
@erikahfartist: You are right on! We have to learn that scarcity is being fabricated and imposed on humanity for the benefit of a few. Money which is made out of debt only supports the system of scarcity. We have an immense abundance of all the resources the world would need to function with some left over. But if the world realizes this it'll real fuck up the fake economy. Forget Friedman, von Mises, and Adam Smith. Listen to the lessons of the late, great Bill Hicks!
Why would people bother supplying the "necessities" if they're not going to be paid? Money is not some evil, vague thing. It is simply the device which we use to store our man hours.
@apnwahoowa You have to learn how money is created. Money costs humanity a lot more than it helps. And again supply is only as limited as the technology used to harness it. The fallacy of the green earth movement is that we have finite resources. The only thing finite is our creativity and technology. And these limits are learned not empirical. So, they can be overcome. We have to change our minds in order to change the world.
Jaque Fresco must have a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. A lifetime given to showing us a way out of the crazy system we are all brainwashed into believing is only way.
Don't pay any attention to the trolls here. All we're saying is let science prove it can be done and toss all this superstitious mumble jumble crap. Please educate yourself and learn about it before trolling around here and posting crap. Get smart
Microeconomics/Macroeconomics is only relevant in a monetary paradigm. An RBE is not Utopia and there will be challenges but the future is super-computers, it's already happening. We won't have to bother our tiny minds about it. We will produce what we need. Some of course will want MORE than they need and that's the challenge. It's about education. We will all be taught that the planet has finite resources. Provided our inherent needs are met we are far more likely to accept that fact.
@nansir "Microeconomics/Macroeconomics is only relevant in a monetary paradigm."
I'm sorry but no its not.Your society will still have economics, it will simply an economic system where goods, services, and resources are allocated differently but allocated non-the-less.The simple mechanism of supply that a RBE advocates will work between the simple exchanges of two individuals but not at the complex level of an entire state, country, or world.Now, let me make it clear, I'm not denying...
@nansir that this type of future can exist, I'm simply arguing that if abundance is created by technological progress it will happened through natural historical processes not through a social movement. Changing our values so our demands are reduced should be the aim of the zeitgeist movement. That is to say, we shouldn't change our institutions, but merely ourselves.
@TheModerateViewer I agree with you, nothing will change until people begin to suffer but it's starting to happen right now. The monetary system is doomed to fail and people are going to suffer. Banks are going to collapse. It is then that changes occur. I hope for all our sakes that we make the right choices. The money system was great for controlling supply and demand in times of scarcity but it is also a handy tool to control the masses. We need to let go now. Abundance is achievable.
@TheModerateViewer Okay, but money corrupts pure and simple even in the free market you advocate corruption would flourish and greed would once again preveil over individual self-intrest. A global sytem Like a RBE would work on a global scale due to the speed of communication. Each city would be communicating with one another on the sustainabiliy of each population what shortcomings the city has and what they have too much of. making trade toeach city based on the necessities.
'The RBE will have no way of allocating resources effectively because it won't know who needs or who doesn't need the resources, goods, or products.'
Really, we are both currently on a website potentially accessible by every human on earth. How easy is that? The infastrucutre is taken care of food is abundant and accessible from automated cafe's. Personal items such as clothing easy, you type in your sizes and your clothes are delivered to your door. You could even design them yourself.
@nansir You completely misunderstood my Economic calculation problem argument. Basically it goes like this: Price mechanism are used in free markets to measure supply and demand and thus allocate goods, services, and resources effectively. A RBE will have to rely on a simple mechanism of supply and demand. A system that simple would work in microeconomics but not at all in macroeconomics.
Watch this video to further understand my argument if you wish:
@TheModerateViewer Lol yeah brah, you got it wrong, Human greed is a result of this sick society did you even watch the video up at the top? do you have difficulties making inferences? Or are you just very unimformed?
@stalkingcat123 By all means, I sincerely agree that human beings the result of their enviroments. Therefore, people are made greedy, and introduced to vices from their environment. But self-interest and greed are two very different things. All I'm advocating is a system by which individuals will be able to achieve their own self-interest and the best system for achieving that end has been the free market, not corporatism or fascism like we have today but a real free market.
As Ludwig von Mises explained, there is no way of getting rid of money. For a society to be able to allocate goods and services most effectively, you must have a way of measuring supply and demand. The free market solution to this is price mechanisms. The RBE would have no such substitute than can replicate the complexity and productivity of the free enterprise system. Read some fucking Milton Friedman!! Free market is not the problem, its government intervention!!!
@TheModerateViewer Well... Didn't our current crisis start because some Western governments DID let go of the reins on free market a little??? Human Nature + Free Markets = A Big Fucking Mess. C'mon... Let's face it dude... If you were making shit loads of money screwing people over... Would YOU really stop? Nah... Human Nature can suck sometimes and, in order NOT to destroy ourselves, we need some rules and regulation until the day of Enlightenment... If indeed that day ever comes...
@sdwone Our current financial crises started because of a lot reasons. One reason is that US spending created the US debt crisis which lied partially to the recession, in other words because of government. But mainly it has been because of crony capitalism, otherwise known as corporatism. That is not a free market. It is only through government that corporations can use coercion because in a free market only the government is authorized to use force...
@sdwoneFor example, here's a video by Ayn Rand discussing monopolies:
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It is when government intervenes and favors certain businesses over others, passes legislation to prevent competition, and in short goes into bed with corporations that you get economic atrocities and economic inequality that you see know.
Here's another video by Milton Friedman explaining just that:
@TheModerateViewer I'll take a peek, but nonetheless my friend, I ain't no fan of Western governments, believe me. But I also find the concept of Human Greed more profoundly disturbing. And until that part of our primal nature finally gets mastered under our control, I'm afraid I have NO faith in Free Markets. We need to get ourselves off this rock, start exploiting the virtually unlimited amount of resources out there in the Cosmos, so that we can create post scarcity civilization. My 2 cents!
@TheModerateViewer If you have abundance no money system will work. That's the goal, and in an age of high technology and automation it is achievable. End of story, we are heading there whether we like it or not. Instead of arguing we should be focusing on how we design a society around that irrefutable fact.
@nansir That is in no way an irrefutable fact and I suggest that for the sake of argument we don't start a conversation with irrefutable facts but rather with listening and open minds. Now you said that if you have abundance no money system will work. The first thing I want to say is that I doubt this abundance will come from direct human intervention. We went from Feudalism to capitalism through advances in technology that demanded for a re-structuring of the current economic system....
@nansir That is in no way an irrefutable fact and I suggest that for the sake of argument we don't start a conversation with irrefutable facts but rather with listening and open minds. Now you said that if you have abundance no money system will work. The first thing I want to say is that I doubt this abundance will come from direct human intervention. We went from Feudalism to capitalism through advances in technology that demanded for a re-structuring of the current economic system....
@nansir But did it happen because all their serfs were tired of their oppression and directly tried to change things? No, but rather through natural historical processes. If their ever comes a time where technology will create this abundance, which I'm not arguing it won't happen, but if it does, it will occur through natural historical processes not through our direct intervention. The second point I want to make is that you're correct, if you have abundance no money system will work...
@nansir That is to say, price mechanisms for measuring supply and demand won't work. But resources still have to be allocated and without a mechanism to measure supply and demand, the RBE will have no way of allocating resources effectively because it won't know who needs or who doesn't need the resources, goods, or products.
Forget about what Ludwig von Mises or Milton Friedman said. The human species was able to create a device that allows you to communicate with everyone in the world with a few clicks, why is it so difficult for people to grasp a future without money? Check the Venus Project website and they do have a possible solution to this, but if it doesn't suffice then we'll think of a solution together. This is all about changing our values and realizing that if we continue with this
@TheModerateViewer: In terms of allocation of goods and services, the only reason to regulate this distribution is if the goods are limited. In the monetary system, scarcity limits goods, whether the scarcity is real or imposed. Friedman studies within the realm of supply and demand, if supply is infinite, society doesn't need money the regulate demand. The point is that abundance exists and all the laws espoused under the fallacy of scarcity are fabrications.
A great idea, but it fails to take into account those mentally unstable people who commit crimes for the sheer enjoyment of it. They will steal, lie, kill, rape, all for the sheer pleasure of it, without regard for what they will gain other than a brief high. And I'm not just talking about the people you're probably thinking of. What if they cannot be rehabilitated? What then?
"Money" "Profit" is a tool that "big brother" used it for control us. "reincarnation".Those people knew that created religion. We all fall into the education, health system, media, technology, news, Capitalism, democracy, freedom all those "products" etc. is used try to control our mind. They created War, they destroyed country, culture, the most important they try to destroy our soul,the ability to know the true of yourself, to continue become a slave for them.Amitafu
So what can my idealistic son do ,now ,to work toward these goals? He wants to change the world. He's 15. He talks about these things,but that's all he does. So,what can he do right now to start these things? Thank You, a desperate mom
In order for him to do that, he has to learn how before hand. He can continue to learn a variety of things before forming the methods to accomplish a better society. Remember, he is not alone in wondering how to get to a RBE. He can discuss his ideas with like minded people.
@TheElvysAllan He can only try to learn as much as he can about a Resource Based Economy and pass the understanding on, this will only happen when the majority of people understand and 'want' a better world. It is not something that can be forced on people.
@TheElvysAllan I like you saying "work toward", because changing the world is as fun as watching a globe trotting snail.
I think your son should enjoy living and keep his bright head from getting idealistic. Idealism is addictive, corrupts identity and pleasures. He should stick to visionary work if you follow me, influencing entertainment, building models and write books/cartoons about this. Jaque Fresco had the luxury of being a pioneer, turing ideas into art- we should do the same. *hug*
SeekPerfection is acknowledging the human quality in each of us & continuously finding a way to improve all perceived flaws through balance. Christopher Clark Brown, Public Figure
The incentive argument doesn't hold up, because we already have examples of what happens when you take money out of the equation. I have watched documentaries where russian miners were interviewed and they said they didn't feel motivated to be productive. They said this because they already have their basic needs covered, and money isn't an incentive. They are not gonna work "harder" because they enjoy it.
I don't think mining is that fun of an activity, that's probably why they would stop working. You should youtube 'motivation' and click on the RSA Animate - Drive: The Surprising Truth about what Motivates us.
People would still be motivated to make a contribution to society if they were doing it through an activity they're passionate about :)
@erikahfartist That was an interesting video! Mining is a mechanical job, so pay directly effects the outcome. I see what you mean. At Google, employees can take 20% of their time each week working on whatever project they want as long as the project ends up under Google's name. The side projects fall under a sub section of Google called Google X. It is pretty interesting.
I personally think its to late for anything to change from this point on, there is noting we or the government can do, we should be concentrating on the actual state of the planet, its dying but people who are rich do noting about it and the few people who do are called *tree huger* *hippies* but they are the only people who are are trying to save what beautiful planet we live in before man eventually kills its home and remember we are not in charge of this planet the planet is in charge of us !
@sommerfitz1 Agreed. Mother Nature is Law and we are but a small part of Her. A part that, thanks to the blessing (or curse) of "intelligence" requires us to behave responsibly, or perish so that other life forms may evolve to have a chance of succeeding where we had failed. I also agree that, the only way things are going to change is if they get sooo bad that we simply have NO choice. I just hope that if and when that time comes, there will be some of us left to learn from our mistakes.
@juki0h It will come with the gradual maturation of human consciousness that we realize hoarding free things doesn't bring happiness. Also, the realization that within a venus project type system, if you are hoarding things you don't need, then you will be going against the natural inclination to have communal sharing. It will rarely happen, in other words.
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 sounds kind of like a cult or religion thing, not that im trying to put the idea down or anything, but you really think that its possible to train human beings to behave in this manner? what happens if someone decides they want more, will there be police forces in the society? im all for this idea, it just seem like a good idea and that is all. perhaps if there was so catastrophic event and were forced into this, i see it happening.
@juki0h It isn't a cult, it's about the human being changing his/her nature. This is a necessity as we continue our evolution. You should watch some more of Fresco's talks perhaps.
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 i will watch it, for i am very interested in this idea.
dont really know what people would want more of, perhaps space or something. i will keep on wathching the videos and see for myself if a society like this is even possible
@juki0h Yeah, people may want more space, that is an interesting one. Surely they could just go to the forest or whatever they want. Move their house there maybe :P
@juki0h Also, it's not about having to train people to live a certain way. It's mainly about reducing scarcity because it is scarcity of basic needs which makes people act the way they do now. If we reduce scarcity then people wanting more won't really be a problem, at least to a point. What are you thinking people would want more of?
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 There is little scarcity in the west of basic things, yet people are still desperate to have the latest model of iPhone, for example. It has nothing to do with scarcity, and more to do with the need to have more than other people.
@FluentCzech But if there was no scarcity of anything then why would you want to have more than other people when they could easily have as much as you, simply if they wanted? Also, even if there is little actual scarcity in the west, there is still the threat of it. Our system is so unstable that the threat is still very real. Venus project would have more stability and alleviate the threat of scarcity.
@juki0h We only really want what we actually "need" to survive and pursue a meaningful life. Everything else is manufactured desire. If you take away the propaganda of marketing, people don't want things they don't need. You have to change your concept of "stuff."
A world without money is impossible anytime in the close future. Maybe in a hundred to five hundred years. I agree it's a great idea. I'm all for it and I know a lot of people would be too. Except the rich. The true power holders will kill you before that will ever happen.
@SuperMrAtheist This is silly. The "power" that these power holders have is only given to them by the masses apathy and ignorance. As people wake up, and they are, everyone will reclaim their own power and person sovereignty. Be optimistic, for by spreading these negative words you not only freely give your power to others, but may convince others to do the same.
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 negative words? One can't just bind their mind to only enlighten words in with hope to bring world peace. Ignoring the negativity is more harmful than grasping it. Please tell me. How are we to reclaim our own power and person sovereignty without negative words?
@SuperMrAtheist Well, I actually retract some of my statement to you, my apologies. I don't actually consider much of what you said negative at all, in fact you stated you promote the ideas here positively. I was mainly referencing your last statement that they would kill you before it ever happened. I hope people don't let this deter them. We have lived in fear long enough and that is what give those people power. That is all I meant. It can't really be stopped if people don't let it be.
IN THE 50s SAME UTOPIC PROMISSES AROSE - WE WOULD WORK LESS NAMELY AT HOME DUE TO MACHINES AND PRODUCTION WOULD PROVIDE FOR EVERYONE - WELL, IN THE END WE BECAME NOT ONLY DEPENDENT ON THAT SAME TECHNOLOGY BUT ALSO THAT TECHNOLOGY IS USED AS A TOOL FOR CONTROL.
AS LONG AS TECHNOLOGY IS IN THE HANDS OF THE POWERFULL FEW THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE OUTCOME - MORE CONTROL, TERROR, ENSLAVEMENT, WAR.
GOOD PRINCIPLES BUT CAN BE DECEIVEABLE, VERY DANGEROUS WAY IT POINTS TO - MORE INDUSTRIALIZATION THAT COMES WITH CORPORATIVISM AND TRANSHUMANISM IN THIS FUTURE. TECHNOCRACY.
while he has some good ideas, where would u put all the abundance? Why would you assume everyone would want the same things? Look at any video game that comes out, they give you weapons, you want more. You get to create a character in your game, but you want more options to customize your avatar. I have a favorite meal, but I don't want it all the time. Also, people are not inherently good. You don't have to teach a baby or toddler to lie, they just do. We're born egotistical & selfish.
@danielbluesmoke the designs he made are just ideas daniel, it will not stop architects from designing their own buildings/communities/towns/cities, his vision encourages you to so is not really an issue at all imo.
removing money= removing the right to own stuff. If you cant own stuff, you cant own your own life or body. THAT is the road to slavery if there ever was one.
@Wolder8888 Interesting. Because, with respect, you don't actually "own" your body. It will die one day so who "owns" it then? This whole idea of ownership is a false one. We don't actually "own" anything. The Universe plays by its own rules... Rules that, as yet, we are still struggling to determine. But make no mistake, ownership, just like money, is a VERY Human concept and therefore has limited scope in the grand scheme of things, whatever that scheme may turn out to be...
@Genieinus Remember, money hasn't been around forever. In fact, when you look at it, money, in it's modern form at least, is a relative newcomer when compared to other Human innovations like Agriculture and the Iron Age for example. So, we did OK without money before. Trade without money was the norm. Money, originally, was simply a more efficient means to facilitate trade by the use of IOUs, which IS money. But now? Well now those who control LOTS of money, controls the World. This isn't right.
@sdwone Thank you for your response. Im getting more education on this topic to make it easy for me to transition to a economic solution at suits the people i deal with day to day. After watching videos like the Kymatica, i realise i need to 'wake up' live consciously
@Genieinus LOL! I am touched by your kind words my friend, but I too am still learning. Our whole Species is still learning. We've made some great progress but, alas, these days it's hard not to think that we are stalling that progress quite badly. But you are right on the "wake up" thing. The great thing about the Net is that people are totally free to air outlandish views so, perhaps it is the Net that will eventually free our minds, from the shackles of mundane capitalistic consumption.
@sdwone some of the responses i get on YT i wonder if we really are waking up. i get criticism instead of feedback. Each day i bump into people in the city which make me feel im blessed seeing their gift. i am better for meeting them. and then i go on to FB and may feel touched by a nice picture or statement, but its not the same as in real life. In hope of finding life on the net.
@SLCforLIFE Yeah. That IS a possibility. But one thing that we ALL have to ask is this? Who, exactly, controls the World? Is it "Us" or "Them"? I kinda feel for all those protestors making their stance here in the West. It's a David and Goliath fight and, right now, David seems to have very little support from “Us”. Why? Because "We The People" have simply lost that will to fight. But “hopefully”, when things get REALLY bad, we will ALL find that will again and then nothing can stand in our way.
@sdwone Well they control it because we let them. We pay for the privilege of being exploited and propagandized. You're right, if the people don't expand their knowledge, stop being exploited, and stand up for themselves then we won't get anything done. I try my best to support activists, protestors, and show a love for humanity everyday.
@sdwone *free to speak our outlandish views, FOR THE TIME BEING. They are working day and night to censor this, and already are in many countries. I think it's essential that we spread these kinds of messages while we still can.
I found this video to be very enlightening.I have often thought of such a world.Its would seem closer to paradise or as other would say paradiso then any other form for our world.the only question I really had for this before joining the campaign or call it killing money is what is The 211?A code or an abbreviation
Money is just an energy exchange it's the intent behind the exchange that makes it either a negative energy or a positive energy.
Example: Your community will suffer if you fail to use your local businesses and stores for goods, services etc and keep going to the outskirts of town to big supermarkets.
The energy behind your money is being used to drain the life out of your local community and into the hands of big corporate enterprise who have no interest in your welfare.
@SilverGalford Yes, it seems to me that a society based on "playing fair" only works if everybody "plays fair". All it takes is one selfish person, and all those "fair players" soon become his victims. Unless, of course, the society puts in place specific systems and measurements to control behaviour and reward people for playing by the rules. All of which seems to go against the spirit of the system proposed in the video.
@SilverGalford Well, I would certainly make myself happier, and that happiness would be seen by others, and brighten their day. Would you prefer that I did something I didn't enjoy? That doesn't sound like a better society than the one we have now.
@SilverGalford Nowdays people are teached since kids to behave themselves and consider other people`s feelings and still they do whatever they want, they don't care if it is hurting someone or not as long as they are having their fun... I think if this kind of society becomes a reality there will be more balanced people who can handle others people's feelings and ideas without feeling ofended or threated by them.
@SilverGalford Nowdays people are teached since kids to behave themselves and consider other people`s feelings and still they do whatever they want, they don't care if it is hurting someone or not as long as they are having their fun... I think if this kind of society becomes a reality there will be more balanced people who can handle others people's feelings and ideas without feeling ofended or threated by them.
I would love this kind of society, where I didn't have to work, and everything were free. Then I could stay at home, playing my guitar, and smoking weed all day, and at night I would go out to fancy clubs, drinking the free champagne, and attracting the attentions of supermodels who didn't care that I was penniless, since, of course, there would be no gold-diggers in this happy society.
@FluentCzech That proves that you really don't know what you are talking about. You will not work for money but you work for society to improve your lifestyle.
@blastedsoul I don't understand. If I only want to stay home and smoke weed, would I be entitled to less than somebody who works all day? If so, that sounds like the more people work the more they get back . That is, work effort is still tied to spending power. I was hoping this was a system that did away with the link between spending power and work. I want to stay home, and write poems and smoke weed, yet still get the same as others. Isn't that possible under this money-free system?
@FluentCzech To be totally noncontributing is, I suppose, your free will choice, but don't you wish to see how you could continue to enhance the lives of everyone else as well as yourself? You wouldn't have to worry about your contribution having to support you, which is one of the best parts of this society. There would probably be a minimal amount of mandatory work that had to be done still anyway. But yes, much more free time.
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 Ya nature, in all of its genius, had a way to deal with non-contributors, it was called "death" or more specifically "death by starvation".
Oh but lo and behold we exist in a society that, for the sake of false ethical codes thinks that each and every single human being's life is sacrosanct.
Poor, uneducated people have all the children, those children eventually create more children and their population explodes, all with the help of EBT cards.
@Shaymeonyoo Social Darwins like you give libertarians a bad name! The system of poverty and lack of education is the fault of the government. You have to fix the government before you kick people out on the street. If people who are fully capable and qualified to work choose not to work, well then yeah, that's their choice & they suffer the consequences. The sense of entitlement in America isn't caused by stupidity; it's caused by brainwashing facilitated by mainstream media & gov't schools.
@orange11emilie wow, someone else with intelligence and that has not been brain washed is here. thank you! its sad that there are a few of us in America that want to try and fix the actually problem.
Violence and aggression cannot be inherited by genetics and DNA. Clarify what you mean when you say a child grew up with normal parents and a good childhood but still became violent and aggressive? Did you know that the average child witnesses nearly 8000 murders on television and video games by the time they finish elementary school? Human behavior is learned behavior from mimicking the actions of adults, older kids, television, video games, superheroes, Hollywood bad boys, Hells Angels, Hip-H
@lilmiss0702 I'm going have to disagree with you. How is violence in children linked to video games? I don't think children/teens/adults learn violent behaviour from games, and then act out that violence in the real world. You have to ask, was the child violent to begin with before he/she ever played a violent video game? What environment were they exposed to as a child? And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of gamers who have a good sense of reality. And know right from wrong.
@lilmiss0702 There is no human nature, there's only human behavior which is learned. From the moment of birth, people area pumped with information that shape our behavior and our relation to everything.
@lilmiss0702 He's talking about the way we're influenced. We're born normal but it's what we're told by the TV, our parents, whatever, whomever that dictates our lives.
@lilmiss0702 Genes can encode for molecules that affect something as complex as behavior, even psychiatric illness such as depression and social behavior. A study in 2002 found that subjects with a particular form of a gene had a significantly higher risk of violence. Genes can affect complex behaviors like aggression, because they direct the production of proteins - the building blocks of living systems.
8000 murders? I don't know one child that's even seen more than maybe 20 and I doubt that.
@dsleeperhold I did. Maybe you should think about good parents who don't let their kids play videos games like that or watch t.v. like that. I have three kids. My oldest being 7 has maybe seen 20 or so. That's because I'm a good parent. Saying 8,000 murder is just down right stupid unless someone were raised by horrible parents. I don't know one parent that lets their kids see that many. My kids read kids books and play kids games and watches kids shows. When you have kids. You'll know
@Bouser uhm if we raise our kids knowing that every human has needs and some things shouldn't happen (abuse,abandonment, etc..) and we meet those needs then people wouldnt be violent. those who have a predisposition to be violent, as long as they weren't abused or anything, are actually less violent than those who dont have that predisposition.
@Cows4jessy theres lots of people who were raised in good homes who are violent, it has nothing to do with how your raised its the chemical structure of your brain that cant be changed, its how you are born. Ted bundy had a wonderful home life but he still slaughtered a bunch of people lol
@Cows4jessy Yes our environment can change our brains socially, but it cant change our chemical balance in the brain which is what makes us "us" . only the social structure would change, people may hide there feelings more, but they are still there. inless they have us pumped up on happy pills or some other drug that changes our brain patterns which i def DO NOT agree with no matter if it makes the world "better" or not. who r you to change my brain.
@Cows4jessy So explain why people who were never abused or anything who are violent? its not the social structure its there chemical structure of the brain that they are born with.
@Cows4jessy thats not what i asked, i said explain why people who were NEVER ABUSED who are violent? its there brain structure not how they were raised.
take away money and you wont need the legal system? thats retarded. people dont only commit crimes because of money, there will still be naturaly violent people, pedophiles,theives will just steal resources instead of money which in the present time is spent on resources, so its the same thing. there will still be people with superiority complex who want to control things, so there will still be gangs.drugdealers will still exist, they will just trade drugs for other resources instead of cash.
Makes no sense cause how would we have things then? Who would make the stuff? And if you say machines then who would run the machines and make the machines. And why would anyone bother if they weren't getting paid to run them. There's so many different things that makes this philosophy make no sense. What about murder? If there was no police since they are not getting paid then when someone murders someone what happens to them?
omg this man is a genius.... wonder why all people are talking about steve jobs as a genius after his death... but just a few honor this man (the true genius)..
right now open source manufacturers make a path toward freedom from labor a reality that once we all decide that, yes, I can help engineer and build a machine that improves productivity of things I need, that my community needs. Once we decide what materials are needed to complete a project to create local food, local transportation, long distance transportation and communication devices; we created these tools when the market demanded them, so what or why couldn't we create for our lives?
Do you really think those in positions of power are going to agree to, in essence, carry the freight for the remainder? HELL NO, MF'ers WOULD TERMINATE THE SURPLUS POPULOUS. Pretty much what they're doing now except in more overt fashion; think TERMINATOR cyborg technology.
Next to Chris Martenson's "Crash Course", this is the greatest piece of film ever produce in the history of human existence....
youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7E8A774DA8435EEB&feature=plcp
VaudevilleRant 1 day ago
our monetary and credit systems are slave systems, he is right working ppl are slaves,if you dont pay companies money they cut off water,and you will go thirsty,without paying the power company you lose your electricity and can burn up during the summer and freeze during winter.our society, tells you to not feed someone that isnt working,How the hell is that ever gonna create a better world,sHOULD I allow some1 to die of staravtion,just because they arent working,No wonder we are How we are now
BorderCityBandit 6 days ago
Yeah but those machines would make us lazy
TheHipHopSamurai1 6 days ago
this guy is amazing!
furvert101 1 week ago
get rid of money...most stupidest invention man has made...turns humans into slaves
peksful 1 week ago
This is interesting, and there is something to the inevitability of the increase of machinery. However, I see a few problems. If we don't work, then we will likely do a lot of creative activities. So, if I wanted a guitar, how would I get one? Is there a guitar machine that makes guitars? Who oversees the guitar machine?
Also, if this future world is stateless, who operates and controls the machines? Technocratic elite?
orange11emilie 1 week ago
@orange11emilie 1) Go to a distribution center to access one.
2) There is a guitar machine that makes guitars. Any regular person would oversee the guitar machine.
3) Anybody with a technical understanding in machines. There are no technocratic elites.
IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER 2 days ago
paid slavery is an oxymoron. when your a slave your not paid, so a paid slave is a worker.
saberur66 1 week ago
@saberur66 not true when the only reason some people work is because if they didn't they would be homeless.
SHADOWPLAYROCKnROLL 1 week ago
@SHADOWPLAYROCKnROLL every animal, actually every organism on earth needs to work to stay alive. animals spend most of their day searching for water and food. Humans are lucky that we have time to do what we want, and still be able to make money at work. we are able to not spend all of our day not foraging for food. but whats great is that under a democracy you can do what ever you want, and live how you want to. money is necessarily and makes life easier.
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Shaymeonyoo 1 week ago
We DONT need money because it was invented to enslave the majority for the benefit of a few. Government was created for the same reason
smashauthoritea 1 week ago
It's good to watch a vid with Jacque again. I felt very sad and depressive in the last days. But it's good to see that there are ppl world who think the same way I do. Life is so much better w/o a facebook acc :)
Krazee2XXL 2 weeks ago
OPEN YOUR EYES EVERYONE. THIS IS OUR KEY TO WORLD PEACE !
khela718 2 weeks ago 21
@khela718 you are an idiot.
Shaymeonyoo 1 week ago
@Shaymeonyoo You are judgmental and blind to the truth.
khela718 1 week ago
I was following with these guys until the "incentives" point.
They simply state "If you provide people with the necessities of life, then people's perceptions will change. Never mind the fact that they dodge the question as to HOW we provide EVERYONE with the "necessities" of life (that they never define).
This is all theoretical, far out thinking that has no basis in reality. There are so many variables these "thinkers" aren't addressing its impossible to discuss on Youtube comments.
Shaymeonyoo 2 weeks ago
@Shaymeonyoo How about you research abit more and watch as much videos as possible of Jacques Fresco... I believe you will find HOW to do it and what not.. I wont bother explaining you cuz i dont know if your genuinely interested or just watched this 1 video and started judging people.. Anyways you'll find the answer if your curious enough or fuck it lets go to 9-5 and get money. Bye
siddgaa 2 weeks ago
@siddgaa mmmhmmm and you will make more than you are worth because of some magical economic-philosophy that tells you so.
Shaymeonyoo 1 week ago
@siddgaa competition and natural selection is the way of the world, if you think any different you are living in your mind.
Shaymeonyoo 1 week ago
@Shaymeonyoo Just checked your channel and saw your comments on other videos. With your closed mindset I dont expect you to understand this but ill give it a try..Name me 1 scientist/pioneer who's main motivation for his work was money! Yea thought so..unless you got your facts messed up lol.
siddgaa 1 week ago
@Shaymeonyoo Then with this mindset you should be brave and take these principles to the extreme like Hitler did or your surely a wimp under your own assumptions of this view. It's proven that societies that work together are stronger, surely an intelligent culture would benfit through collaboration rather than "competing" which often leads to cheating one another and dishonesty. Natural selection is a concept, like culture is a concept, we have the ability to be anything we choose.
Hypermaterial 5 days ago
There has to be a value system, or the lazy would multiply.
iMazeltov 2 weeks ago
@iMazeltov No, If there was no labor then we would produce ourselves evenly for everyone. The emotion of laziness would be extinct. Think about it.
khela718 2 weeks ago
Why does Joseph put in the future city designs by Fresco (such as at 2.00), does he not realize how idiotic they look and how much it undermines everything he is saying?
MsBeiser 3 weeks ago
@MsBeiser Abundance, efficiency and sustainability are all idiotic concepts?
IAM18YEARSOLDANDOVER 2 days ago
@themoderateviewer
system any longer, then we'll be stuck in this adolescent, this infantile state where we kill each other for money, where thousands die of hunger, where people spend their potential working in monotonous jobs, and ruin the very place that keeps us alive. We have to upgrade our values. I understand that I can't convince anyone, but I hope you keep an open mind to the possibilities.
erikahfartist 4 weeks ago
@erikahfartist: You are right on! We have to learn that scarcity is being fabricated and imposed on humanity for the benefit of a few. Money which is made out of debt only supports the system of scarcity. We have an immense abundance of all the resources the world would need to function with some left over. But if the world realizes this it'll real fuck up the fake economy. Forget Friedman, von Mises, and Adam Smith. Listen to the lessons of the late, great Bill Hicks!
rdrenton 4 weeks ago
Why would people bother supplying the "necessities" if they're not going to be paid? Money is not some evil, vague thing. It is simply the device which we use to store our man hours.
apnwahoowa 4 weeks ago
@apnwahoowa You have to learn how money is created. Money costs humanity a lot more than it helps. And again supply is only as limited as the technology used to harness it. The fallacy of the green earth movement is that we have finite resources. The only thing finite is our creativity and technology. And these limits are learned not empirical. So, they can be overcome. We have to change our minds in order to change the world.
rdrenton 4 weeks ago
Jaque Fresco must have a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE. A lifetime given to showing us a way out of the crazy system we are all brainwashed into believing is only way.
nansir 1 month ago
Amen brother,
Don't pay any attention to the trolls here. All we're saying is let science prove it can be done and toss all this superstitious mumble jumble crap. Please educate yourself and learn about it before trolling around here and posting crap. Get smart
hvacproductreviews 1 month ago
Microeconomics/Macroeconomics is only relevant in a monetary paradigm. An RBE is not Utopia and there will be challenges but the future is super-computers, it's already happening. We won't have to bother our tiny minds about it. We will produce what we need. Some of course will want MORE than they need and that's the challenge. It's about education. We will all be taught that the planet has finite resources. Provided our inherent needs are met we are far more likely to accept that fact.
nansir 1 month ago
@nansir "Microeconomics/Macroeconomics is only relevant in a monetary paradigm."
I'm sorry but no its not.Your society will still have economics, it will simply an economic system where goods, services, and resources are allocated differently but allocated non-the-less.The simple mechanism of supply that a RBE advocates will work between the simple exchanges of two individuals but not at the complex level of an entire state, country, or world.Now, let me make it clear, I'm not denying...
TheModerateViewer 4 weeks ago
@nansir that this type of future can exist, I'm simply arguing that if abundance is created by technological progress it will happened through natural historical processes not through a social movement. Changing our values so our demands are reduced should be the aim of the zeitgeist movement. That is to say, we shouldn't change our institutions, but merely ourselves.
TheModerateViewer 4 weeks ago
@TheModerateViewer I agree with you, nothing will change until people begin to suffer but it's starting to happen right now. The monetary system is doomed to fail and people are going to suffer. Banks are going to collapse. It is then that changes occur. I hope for all our sakes that we make the right choices. The money system was great for controlling supply and demand in times of scarcity but it is also a handy tool to control the masses. We need to let go now. Abundance is achievable.
nansir 4 weeks ago
@TheModerateViewer Okay, but money corrupts pure and simple even in the free market you advocate corruption would flourish and greed would once again preveil over individual self-intrest. A global sytem Like a RBE would work on a global scale due to the speed of communication. Each city would be communicating with one another on the sustainabiliy of each population what shortcomings the city has and what they have too much of. making trade toeach city based on the necessities.
stalkingcat123 4 weeks ago
'The RBE will have no way of allocating resources effectively because it won't know who needs or who doesn't need the resources, goods, or products.'
Really, we are both currently on a website potentially accessible by every human on earth. How easy is that? The infastrucutre is taken care of food is abundant and accessible from automated cafe's. Personal items such as clothing easy, you type in your sizes and your clothes are delivered to your door. You could even design them yourself.
nansir 1 month ago
@nansir You completely misunderstood my Economic calculation problem argument. Basically it goes like this: Price mechanism are used in free markets to measure supply and demand and thus allocate goods, services, and resources effectively. A RBE will have to rely on a simple mechanism of supply and demand. A system that simple would work in microeconomics but not at all in macroeconomics.
Watch this video to further understand my argument if you wish:
/watch?v=doGwRloNZSQ&feature=related
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@TheModerateViewer Lol yeah brah, you got it wrong, Human greed is a result of this sick society did you even watch the video up at the top? do you have difficulties making inferences? Or are you just very unimformed?
stalkingcat123 4 weeks ago
@stalkingcat123 By all means, I sincerely agree that human beings the result of their enviroments. Therefore, people are made greedy, and introduced to vices from their environment. But self-interest and greed are two very different things. All I'm advocating is a system by which individuals will be able to achieve their own self-interest and the best system for achieving that end has been the free market, not corporatism or fascism like we have today but a real free market.
TheModerateViewer 4 weeks ago
As Ludwig von Mises explained, there is no way of getting rid of money. For a society to be able to allocate goods and services most effectively, you must have a way of measuring supply and demand. The free market solution to this is price mechanisms. The RBE would have no such substitute than can replicate the complexity and productivity of the free enterprise system. Read some fucking Milton Friedman!! Free market is not the problem, its government intervention!!!
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@TheModerateViewer Well... Didn't our current crisis start because some Western governments DID let go of the reins on free market a little??? Human Nature + Free Markets = A Big Fucking Mess. C'mon... Let's face it dude... If you were making shit loads of money screwing people over... Would YOU really stop? Nah... Human Nature can suck sometimes and, in order NOT to destroy ourselves, we need some rules and regulation until the day of Enlightenment... If indeed that day ever comes...
sdwone 1 month ago
@sdwone Our current financial crises started because of a lot reasons. One reason is that US spending created the US debt crisis which lied partially to the recession, in other words because of government. But mainly it has been because of crony capitalism, otherwise known as corporatism. That is not a free market. It is only through government that corporations can use coercion because in a free market only the government is authorized to use force...
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@sdwoneFor example, here's a video by Ayn Rand discussing monopolies:
/watch?v=GD9kiD2a7gM
It is when government intervenes and favors certain businesses over others, passes legislation to prevent competition, and in short goes into bed with corporations that you get economic atrocities and economic inequality that you see know.
Here's another video by Milton Friedman explaining just that:
/watch?v=U5dNdBt4204
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@TheModerateViewer I'll take a peek, but nonetheless my friend, I ain't no fan of Western governments, believe me. But I also find the concept of Human Greed more profoundly disturbing. And until that part of our primal nature finally gets mastered under our control, I'm afraid I have NO faith in Free Markets. We need to get ourselves off this rock, start exploiting the virtually unlimited amount of resources out there in the Cosmos, so that we can create post scarcity civilization. My 2 cents!
sdwone 1 month ago
@TheModerateViewer If you have abundance no money system will work. That's the goal, and in an age of high technology and automation it is achievable. End of story, we are heading there whether we like it or not. Instead of arguing we should be focusing on how we design a society around that irrefutable fact.
nansir 1 month ago
@nansir That is in no way an irrefutable fact and I suggest that for the sake of argument we don't start a conversation with irrefutable facts but rather with listening and open minds. Now you said that if you have abundance no money system will work. The first thing I want to say is that I doubt this abundance will come from direct human intervention. We went from Feudalism to capitalism through advances in technology that demanded for a re-structuring of the current economic system....
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@nansir That is in no way an irrefutable fact and I suggest that for the sake of argument we don't start a conversation with irrefutable facts but rather with listening and open minds. Now you said that if you have abundance no money system will work. The first thing I want to say is that I doubt this abundance will come from direct human intervention. We went from Feudalism to capitalism through advances in technology that demanded for a re-structuring of the current economic system....
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@nansir But did it happen because all their serfs were tired of their oppression and directly tried to change things? No, but rather through natural historical processes. If their ever comes a time where technology will create this abundance, which I'm not arguing it won't happen, but if it does, it will occur through natural historical processes not through our direct intervention. The second point I want to make is that you're correct, if you have abundance no money system will work...
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@nansir That is to say, price mechanisms for measuring supply and demand won't work. But resources still have to be allocated and without a mechanism to measure supply and demand, the RBE will have no way of allocating resources effectively because it won't know who needs or who doesn't need the resources, goods, or products.
TheModerateViewer 1 month ago
@TheModerateViewer
Forget about what Ludwig von Mises or Milton Friedman said. The human species was able to create a device that allows you to communicate with everyone in the world with a few clicks, why is it so difficult for people to grasp a future without money? Check the Venus Project website and they do have a possible solution to this, but if it doesn't suffice then we'll think of a solution together. This is all about changing our values and realizing that if we continue with this
erikahfartist 4 weeks ago 5
@TheModerateViewer: In terms of allocation of goods and services, the only reason to regulate this distribution is if the goods are limited. In the monetary system, scarcity limits goods, whether the scarcity is real or imposed. Friedman studies within the realm of supply and demand, if supply is infinite, society doesn't need money the regulate demand. The point is that abundance exists and all the laws espoused under the fallacy of scarcity are fabrications.
rdrenton 4 weeks ago
A great idea, but it fails to take into account those mentally unstable people who commit crimes for the sheer enjoyment of it. They will steal, lie, kill, rape, all for the sheer pleasure of it, without regard for what they will gain other than a brief high. And I'm not just talking about the people you're probably thinking of. What if they cannot be rehabilitated? What then?
JanusHoW 1 month ago
Imagine a world without money?? Lets see your Bankbalance Fresco you two faced fuckwit. All talk and no action.
Lousypenguin 1 month ago
Lets Stand Up And Unite in Love And Connect in to Our Hearts To Create Heaven On Planet Earth! Its time To take Our power Back wordwide !!
TruthExistLove 1 month ago
"Money" "Profit" is a tool that "big brother" used it for control us. "reincarnation".Those people knew that created religion. We all fall into the education, health system, media, technology, news, Capitalism, democracy, freedom all those "products" etc. is used try to control our mind. They created War, they destroyed country, culture, the most important they try to destroy our soul,the ability to know the true of yourself, to continue become a slave for them.Amitafu
kamsmelon1 1 month ago
1:58 - 2:16
diogotomediogo 1 month ago
So what can my idealistic son do ,now ,to work toward these goals? He wants to change the world. He's 15. He talks about these things,but that's all he does. So,what can he do right now to start these things? Thank You, a desperate mom
TheElvysAllan 1 month ago
In order for him to do that, he has to learn how before hand. He can continue to learn a variety of things before forming the methods to accomplish a better society. Remember, he is not alone in wondering how to get to a RBE. He can discuss his ideas with like minded people.
Some of us have proposed a way
zeitgeist-info (dot) com/essay/2011/03/proposed-transition-steps-to-a-resource-based-economy/
If you have any ideas, share them! It would be greatly appreciated.
TonyTheAnything 1 month ago
@TheElvysAllan He can only try to learn as much as he can about a Resource Based Economy and pass the understanding on, this will only happen when the majority of people understand and 'want' a better world. It is not something that can be forced on people.
peterjol 1 month ago
@TheElvysAllan I like you saying "work toward", because changing the world is as fun as watching a globe trotting snail.
I think your son should enjoy living and keep his bright head from getting idealistic. Idealism is addictive, corrupts identity and pleasures. He should stick to visionary work if you follow me, influencing entertainment, building models and write books/cartoons about this. Jaque Fresco had the luxury of being a pioneer, turing ideas into art- we should do the same. *hug*
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seekperfection 1 month ago
interesting..I never looked at it this way
marcelia3 1 month ago
The incentive argument doesn't hold up, because we already have examples of what happens when you take money out of the equation. I have watched documentaries where russian miners were interviewed and they said they didn't feel motivated to be productive. They said this because they already have their basic needs covered, and money isn't an incentive. They are not gonna work "harder" because they enjoy it.
seporokey 1 month ago
@seporokey
I don't think mining is that fun of an activity, that's probably why they would stop working. You should youtube 'motivation' and click on the RSA Animate - Drive: The Surprising Truth about what Motivates us.
People would still be motivated to make a contribution to society if they were doing it through an activity they're passionate about :)
erikahfartist 4 weeks ago
@erikahfartist That was an interesting video! Mining is a mechanical job, so pay directly effects the outcome. I see what you mean. At Google, employees can take 20% of their time each week working on whatever project they want as long as the project ends up under Google's name. The side projects fall under a sub section of Google called Google X. It is pretty interesting.
seporokey 3 weeks ago
stupid children time tomake daddy proud
90122123769462375608 1 month ago
I liked Francisco d'Anconia's speech much better.
God Bless.
GodsStyleGirl 1 month ago
@GodsStyleGirl Ironic for you to be a fan of a character created by an avowed atheist and then say, "God Bless."
MrChristianMadsen 1 month ago
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TheGlobalMindProject 2 months ago
I personally think its to late for anything to change from this point on, there is noting we or the government can do, we should be concentrating on the actual state of the planet, its dying but people who are rich do noting about it and the few people who do are called *tree huger* *hippies* but they are the only people who are are trying to save what beautiful planet we live in before man eventually kills its home and remember we are not in charge of this planet the planet is in charge of us !
sommerfitz1 2 months ago
@sommerfitz1 Agreed. Mother Nature is Law and we are but a small part of Her. A part that, thanks to the blessing (or curse) of "intelligence" requires us to behave responsibly, or perish so that other life forms may evolve to have a chance of succeeding where we had failed. I also agree that, the only way things are going to change is if they get sooo bad that we simply have NO choice. I just hope that if and when that time comes, there will be some of us left to learn from our mistakes.
sdwone 2 months ago
We would have warp drive instead.
EduardoTVideos 2 months ago
in the venus project, how do you get people from not wanting more free stuff?
juki0h 2 months ago
@juki0h 1.no advertising business 2. no economic inequality 3.better education.
And where you can find stuff in Maslow's pyramid of needs?
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@juki0h It will come with the gradual maturation of human consciousness that we realize hoarding free things doesn't bring happiness. Also, the realization that within a venus project type system, if you are hoarding things you don't need, then you will be going against the natural inclination to have communal sharing. It will rarely happen, in other words.
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 sounds kind of like a cult or religion thing, not that im trying to put the idea down or anything, but you really think that its possible to train human beings to behave in this manner? what happens if someone decides they want more, will there be police forces in the society? im all for this idea, it just seem like a good idea and that is all. perhaps if there was so catastrophic event and were forced into this, i see it happening.
juki0h 2 months ago
@juki0h It isn't a cult, it's about the human being changing his/her nature. This is a necessity as we continue our evolution. You should watch some more of Fresco's talks perhaps.
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 i will watch it, for i am very interested in this idea.
dont really know what people would want more of, perhaps space or something. i will keep on wathching the videos and see for myself if a society like this is even possible
juki0h 2 months ago
@juki0h Yeah, people may want more space, that is an interesting one. Surely they could just go to the forest or whatever they want. Move their house there maybe :P
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago
@juki0h Also, it's not about having to train people to live a certain way. It's mainly about reducing scarcity because it is scarcity of basic needs which makes people act the way they do now. If we reduce scarcity then people wanting more won't really be a problem, at least to a point. What are you thinking people would want more of?
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 There is little scarcity in the west of basic things, yet people are still desperate to have the latest model of iPhone, for example. It has nothing to do with scarcity, and more to do with the need to have more than other people.
FluentCzech 2 months ago
@FluentCzech But if there was no scarcity of anything then why would you want to have more than other people when they could easily have as much as you, simply if they wanted? Also, even if there is little actual scarcity in the west, there is still the threat of it. Our system is so unstable that the threat is still very real. Venus project would have more stability and alleviate the threat of scarcity.
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basedrop 1 month ago
@juki0h We only really want what we actually "need" to survive and pursue a meaningful life. Everything else is manufactured desire. If you take away the propaganda of marketing, people don't want things they don't need. You have to change your concept of "stuff."
basedrop 1 month ago
@basedrop ya i know
juki0h 1 month ago
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juki0h 2 months ago
fuck money!
DjDedan 2 months ago
A world without money is impossible anytime in the close future. Maybe in a hundred to five hundred years. I agree it's a great idea. I'm all for it and I know a lot of people would be too. Except the rich. The true power holders will kill you before that will ever happen.
SuperMrAtheist 2 months ago
@SuperMrAtheist This is silly. The "power" that these power holders have is only given to them by the masses apathy and ignorance. As people wake up, and they are, everyone will reclaim their own power and person sovereignty. Be optimistic, for by spreading these negative words you not only freely give your power to others, but may convince others to do the same.
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 negative words? One can't just bind their mind to only enlighten words in with hope to bring world peace. Ignoring the negativity is more harmful than grasping it. Please tell me. How are we to reclaim our own power and person sovereignty without negative words?
SuperMrAtheist 2 months ago
@SuperMrAtheist Well, I actually retract some of my statement to you, my apologies. I don't actually consider much of what you said negative at all, in fact you stated you promote the ideas here positively. I was mainly referencing your last statement that they would kill you before it ever happened. I hope people don't let this deter them. We have lived in fear long enough and that is what give those people power. That is all I meant. It can't really be stopped if people don't let it be.
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago
exactly! seriously look at the Smurfs, they live in a ''world'' without money! im not kidding this is actually a great idea!
stasisnu18 2 months ago
What is more important: what you want or what is good for you?
What you want is necessarily good for you?
What's good for you is necessarily what you want?
APerfectSystem 2 months ago
Sometimes i look around and get so depressed at what i see i feel like i want out.. There has got to be something better than man..
knowpassword 2 months ago
@knowpassword The Matrix has you.lol
SuperMrAtheist 2 months ago
THE TECHNOCRACTS DO ABSOLUTELY NOT HAVE YOUR INTERESTS IN MIND NOR HUMANITY DEVELOPMENT AS A WHOLE ONLY CONTROL AND PROFIT, MAKE NO MISTAKE.
BEFORE WE CAN GET RID OF THAT VERY SYSTEM NO UTOPIAS LIKE THE ONE IN THE VIDEO WILL BE POSSIBLE.
mistresspav 2 months ago
IN THE 50s SAME UTOPIC PROMISSES AROSE - WE WOULD WORK LESS NAMELY AT HOME DUE TO MACHINES AND PRODUCTION WOULD PROVIDE FOR EVERYONE - WELL, IN THE END WE BECAME NOT ONLY DEPENDENT ON THAT SAME TECHNOLOGY BUT ALSO THAT TECHNOLOGY IS USED AS A TOOL FOR CONTROL.
AS LONG AS TECHNOLOGY IS IN THE HANDS OF THE POWERFULL FEW THAT WILL ALWAYS BE THE OUTCOME - MORE CONTROL, TERROR, ENSLAVEMENT, WAR.
mistresspav 2 months ago 9
@mistresspav Nice caps bro!
moresaw1993 2 months ago
@mistresspav yes you have made a point. but what is your solution? idea?
agedchoirboy 4 weeks ago
GOOD PRINCIPLES BUT CAN BE DECEIVEABLE, VERY DANGEROUS WAY IT POINTS TO - MORE INDUSTRIALIZATION THAT COMES WITH CORPORATIVISM AND TRANSHUMANISM IN THIS FUTURE. TECHNOCRACY.
mistresspav 2 months ago
while he has some good ideas, where would u put all the abundance? Why would you assume everyone would want the same things? Look at any video game that comes out, they give you weapons, you want more. You get to create a character in your game, but you want more options to customize your avatar. I have a favorite meal, but I don't want it all the time. Also, people are not inherently good. You don't have to teach a baby or toddler to lie, they just do. We're born egotistical & selfish.
EASTSIDEDELI 2 months ago
I hate Jacque Fresco's design, but for the most part, he's right! So this is shared!
danielbluesmoke 2 months ago
@danielbluesmoke the designs he made are just ideas daniel, it will not stop architects from designing their own buildings/communities/towns/cities, his vision encourages you to so is not really an issue at all imo.
Xality 2 months ago
DO you want this video to go viral?
a2zhandi 3 months ago
removing money= removing the right to own stuff. If you cant own stuff, you cant own your own life or body. THAT is the road to slavery if there ever was one.
Wolder8888 3 months ago
@Wolder8888 Interesting. Because, with respect, you don't actually "own" your body. It will die one day so who "owns" it then? This whole idea of ownership is a false one. We don't actually "own" anything. The Universe plays by its own rules... Rules that, as yet, we are still struggling to determine. But make no mistake, ownership, just like money, is a VERY Human concept and therefore has limited scope in the grand scheme of things, whatever that scheme may turn out to be...
sdwone 3 months ago
@Wolder8888 That's some interesting logic.
Revengeancer89 3 months ago
grow your own mushrooms from ur trash a d waste for food is best for agriculture economy
picaticatara 3 months ago
what about products and making a link to where they are needed.
i find not everyone can voice their personal need. how do you overcome this.?
Genieinus 3 months ago
@Genieinus Remember, money hasn't been around forever. In fact, when you look at it, money, in it's modern form at least, is a relative newcomer when compared to other Human innovations like Agriculture and the Iron Age for example. So, we did OK without money before. Trade without money was the norm. Money, originally, was simply a more efficient means to facilitate trade by the use of IOUs, which IS money. But now? Well now those who control LOTS of money, controls the World. This isn't right.
sdwone 3 months ago
@sdwone Thank you for your response. Im getting more education on this topic to make it easy for me to transition to a economic solution at suits the people i deal with day to day. After watching videos like the Kymatica, i realise i need to 'wake up' live consciously
Genieinus 3 months ago
@Genieinus LOL! I am touched by your kind words my friend, but I too am still learning. Our whole Species is still learning. We've made some great progress but, alas, these days it's hard not to think that we are stalling that progress quite badly. But you are right on the "wake up" thing. The great thing about the Net is that people are totally free to air outlandish views so, perhaps it is the Net that will eventually free our minds, from the shackles of mundane capitalistic consumption.
sdwone 3 months ago 11
@sdwone some of the responses i get on YT i wonder if we really are waking up. i get criticism instead of feedback. Each day i bump into people in the city which make me feel im blessed seeing their gift. i am better for meeting them. and then i go on to FB and may feel touched by a nice picture or statement, but its not the same as in real life. In hope of finding life on the net.
Genieinus 3 months ago
@sdwone what if they start censoring the Net?? :( Then it will control our minds, not free them.
SLCforLIFE 1 month ago
@SLCforLIFE Yeah. That IS a possibility. But one thing that we ALL have to ask is this? Who, exactly, controls the World? Is it "Us" or "Them"? I kinda feel for all those protestors making their stance here in the West. It's a David and Goliath fight and, right now, David seems to have very little support from “Us”. Why? Because "We The People" have simply lost that will to fight. But “hopefully”, when things get REALLY bad, we will ALL find that will again and then nothing can stand in our way.
sdwone 1 month ago
@sdwone Well they control it because we let them. We pay for the privilege of being exploited and propagandized. You're right, if the people don't expand their knowledge, stop being exploited, and stand up for themselves then we won't get anything done. I try my best to support activists, protestors, and show a love for humanity everyday.
SLCforLIFE 1 month ago
@sdwone *free to speak our outlandish views, FOR THE TIME BEING. They are working day and night to censor this, and already are in many countries. I think it's essential that we spread these kinds of messages while we still can.
depthandhumor 1 month ago
I found this video to be very enlightening.I have often thought of such a world.Its would seem closer to paradise or as other would say paradiso then any other form for our world.the only question I really had for this before joining the campaign or call it killing money is what is The 211?A code or an abbreviation
Cloud701 3 months ago
Accounting is soooo boring... I don't want to work a desk job...
anythingnew 3 months ago
I've been preaching this message for a long time. Ok, only a few years, but no money means freedom!
thecenter26 3 months ago
Money is just an energy exchange it's the intent behind the exchange that makes it either a negative energy or a positive energy.
Example: Your community will suffer if you fail to use your local businesses and stores for goods, services etc and keep going to the outskirts of town to big supermarkets.
The energy behind your money is being used to drain the life out of your local community and into the hands of big corporate enterprise who have no interest in your welfare.
GeneHunt1973 3 months ago
@SilverGalford Yes, it seems to me that a society based on "playing fair" only works if everybody "plays fair". All it takes is one selfish person, and all those "fair players" soon become his victims. Unless, of course, the society puts in place specific systems and measurements to control behaviour and reward people for playing by the rules. All of which seems to go against the spirit of the system proposed in the video.
FluentCzech 3 months ago
@SilverGalford So the society without money is a society without the freedom to do as I wish?
FluentCzech 3 months ago
@SilverGalford Well, I would certainly make myself happier, and that happiness would be seen by others, and brighten their day. Would you prefer that I did something I didn't enjoy? That doesn't sound like a better society than the one we have now.
FluentCzech 3 months ago
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@SilverGalford Nowdays people are teached since kids to behave themselves and consider other people`s feelings and still they do whatever they want, they don't care if it is hurting someone or not as long as they are having their fun... I think if this kind of society becomes a reality there will be more balanced people who can handle others people's feelings and ideas without feeling ofended or threated by them.
Ainoah 3 months ago
@SilverGalford Nowdays people are teached since kids to behave themselves and consider other people`s feelings and still they do whatever they want, they don't care if it is hurting someone or not as long as they are having their fun... I think if this kind of society becomes a reality there will be more balanced people who can handle others people's feelings and ideas without feeling ofended or threated by them.
Ainoah 3 months ago
I would love this kind of society, where I didn't have to work, and everything were free. Then I could stay at home, playing my guitar, and smoking weed all day, and at night I would go out to fancy clubs, drinking the free champagne, and attracting the attentions of supermodels who didn't care that I was penniless, since, of course, there would be no gold-diggers in this happy society.
FluentCzech 3 months ago
@FluentCzech That proves that you really don't know what you are talking about. You will not work for money but you work for society to improve your lifestyle.
blastedsoul 3 months ago
@blastedsoul I don't understand. If I only want to stay home and smoke weed, would I be entitled to less than somebody who works all day? If so, that sounds like the more people work the more they get back . That is, work effort is still tied to spending power. I was hoping this was a system that did away with the link between spending power and work. I want to stay home, and write poems and smoke weed, yet still get the same as others. Isn't that possible under this money-free system?
FluentCzech 3 months ago
@FluentCzech To be totally noncontributing is, I suppose, your free will choice, but don't you wish to see how you could continue to enhance the lives of everyone else as well as yourself? You wouldn't have to worry about your contribution having to support you, which is one of the best parts of this society. There would probably be a minimal amount of mandatory work that had to be done still anyway. But yes, much more free time.
CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 2 months ago 4
@CLOCKWORKCAPTAIN1 Ya nature, in all of its genius, had a way to deal with non-contributors, it was called "death" or more specifically "death by starvation".
Oh but lo and behold we exist in a society that, for the sake of false ethical codes thinks that each and every single human being's life is sacrosanct.
Poor, uneducated people have all the children, those children eventually create more children and their population explodes, all with the help of EBT cards.
It needs to stop.
Shaymeonyoo 2 weeks ago
@Shaymeonyoo Social Darwins like you give libertarians a bad name! The system of poverty and lack of education is the fault of the government. You have to fix the government before you kick people out on the street. If people who are fully capable and qualified to work choose not to work, well then yeah, that's their choice & they suffer the consequences. The sense of entitlement in America isn't caused by stupidity; it's caused by brainwashing facilitated by mainstream media & gov't schools.
orange11emilie 1 week ago
@orange11emilie wow, someone else with intelligence and that has not been brain washed is here. thank you! its sad that there are a few of us in America that want to try and fix the actually problem.
saberur66 1 week ago
Violence and aggression cannot be inherited by genetics and DNA. Clarify what you mean when you say a child grew up with normal parents and a good childhood but still became violent and aggressive? Did you know that the average child witnesses nearly 8000 murders on television and video games by the time they finish elementary school? Human behavior is learned behavior from mimicking the actions of adults, older kids, television, video games, superheroes, Hollywood bad boys, Hells Angels, Hip-H
lilmiss0702 3 months ago 21
@lilmiss0702 I'm going have to disagree with you. How is violence in children linked to video games? I don't think children/teens/adults learn violent behaviour from games, and then act out that violence in the real world. You have to ask, was the child violent to begin with before he/she ever played a violent video game? What environment were they exposed to as a child? And I'm pretty sure there are plenty of gamers who have a good sense of reality. And know right from wrong.
LauraStar127 3 months ago
@lilmiss0702 There is no human nature, there's only human behavior which is learned. From the moment of birth, people area pumped with information that shape our behavior and our relation to everything.
CylenthVision 3 months ago
@lilmiss0702
dont forget comic books
i always liked the bad guys
RomulanMastermind 2 months ago
@lilmiss0702 He's talking about the way we're influenced. We're born normal but it's what we're told by the TV, our parents, whatever, whomever that dictates our lives.
cooky5479 2 months ago
@lilmiss0702 Genes can encode for molecules that affect something as complex as behavior, even psychiatric illness such as depression and social behavior. A study in 2002 found that subjects with a particular form of a gene had a significantly higher risk of violence. Genes can affect complex behaviors like aggression, because they direct the production of proteins - the building blocks of living systems.
8000 murders? I don't know one child that's even seen more than maybe 20 and I doubt that.
SuperMrAtheist 2 months ago
@SuperMrAtheist on television and video games and newspapers? 20 or less? think about that.
dsleeperhold 2 months ago
@dsleeperhold I did. Maybe you should think about good parents who don't let their kids play videos games like that or watch t.v. like that. I have three kids. My oldest being 7 has maybe seen 20 or so. That's because I'm a good parent. Saying 8,000 murder is just down right stupid unless someone were raised by horrible parents. I don't know one parent that lets their kids see that many. My kids read kids books and play kids games and watches kids shows. When you have kids. You'll know
SuperMrAtheist 2 months ago
also if there is no legal system people will be more prone to crime because there is no deterrent.
Bouser 3 months ago
@Bouser uhm if we raise our kids knowing that every human has needs and some things shouldn't happen (abuse,abandonment, etc..) and we meet those needs then people wouldnt be violent. those who have a predisposition to be violent, as long as they weren't abused or anything, are actually less violent than those who dont have that predisposition.
Cows4jessy 3 months ago
@Cows4jessy theres lots of people who were raised in good homes who are violent, it has nothing to do with how your raised its the chemical structure of your brain that cant be changed, its how you are born. Ted bundy had a wonderful home life but he still slaughtered a bunch of people lol
Bouser 3 months ago
@Bouser our environment can change your brain, look into it.
Cows4jessy 3 months ago
@Cows4jessy Yes our environment can change our brains socially, but it cant change our chemical balance in the brain which is what makes us "us" . only the social structure would change, people may hide there feelings more, but they are still there. inless they have us pumped up on happy pills or some other drug that changes our brain patterns which i def DO NOT agree with no matter if it makes the world "better" or not. who r you to change my brain.
Bouser 3 months ago
@Cows4jessy So explain why people who were never abused or anything who are violent? its not the social structure its there chemical structure of the brain that they are born with.
Bouser 3 months ago
@Bouser the abuse causes a change in the brain..... dont take my word for it, just do your own research.
Cows4jessy 3 months ago
@Cows4jessy thats not what i asked, i said explain why people who were NEVER ABUSED who are violent? its there brain structure not how they were raised.
Bouser 3 months ago
@Bouser how they were raised affects their brain... come on man just look into it.
Cows4jessy 3 months ago
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Bouser 3 months ago
@Cows4jessy oh sorry they are actually less violent
Cows4jessy 3 months ago
take away money and you wont need the legal system? thats retarded. people dont only commit crimes because of money, there will still be naturaly violent people, pedophiles,theives will just steal resources instead of money which in the present time is spent on resources, so its the same thing. there will still be people with superiority complex who want to control things, so there will still be gangs.drugdealers will still exist, they will just trade drugs for other resources instead of cash.
Bouser 3 months ago
Makes no sense cause how would we have things then? Who would make the stuff? And if you say machines then who would run the machines and make the machines. And why would anyone bother if they weren't getting paid to run them. There's so many different things that makes this philosophy make no sense. What about murder? If there was no police since they are not getting paid then when someone murders someone what happens to them?
MrTrepaz 3 months ago
omg this man is a genius.... wonder why all people are talking about steve jobs as a genius after his death... but just a few honor this man (the true genius)..
TheDenknach 3 months ago
Without money, everyone would most likely go crazy and just take whatever they wanted -- there would be absolute chaos.
UtterlyTragick 3 months ago
@UtterlyTragick carefully listen to this video again.. maybe you will understand actually what they are really saying.
or read a book about his theory.. its brilliant...
people in the dark age would also be sceptical about democracy.. so are you sceptical about his system.
TheDenknach 3 months ago
good video, but money or not some people will always be theives.
stodd32 3 months ago
this is like connecting all the missing dots, very informative!!!
emericaordie15 3 months ago
41 people are not ready to evolve
horomsim1 3 months ago 10
@horomsim1 4 more have joined them
BeeJayVC84 3 months ago
right now open source manufacturers make a path toward freedom from labor a reality that once we all decide that, yes, I can help engineer and build a machine that improves productivity of things I need, that my community needs. Once we decide what materials are needed to complete a project to create local food, local transportation, long distance transportation and communication devices; we created these tools when the market demanded them, so what or why couldn't we create for our lives?
DrQandtheGang 4 months ago
money is EVIL..look at a dollar bill if u dont believe me
nm4l 4 months ago
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NetLurker03 4 months ago
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techguyun 4 months ago
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TheTrollFU 4 months ago
Do you really think those in positions of power are going to agree to, in essence, carry the freight for the remainder? HELL NO, MF'ers WOULD TERMINATE THE SURPLUS POPULOUS. Pretty much what they're doing now except in more overt fashion; think TERMINATOR cyborg technology.
wisdomtrek 4 months ago