Ronald Stein - Go Home Pigs

[slamster]

whats the problem with sampling if Dre didnt sample it I would never have came across it haha

[101SLASH101]

Meet eddy, 23 years old.....

[Lawlz0rz]

Rank Rink Ring.

[borealisimperium]

temper, temper! lol

[ACNC1]

What really irks me is that these guys back in the 70´s did´nt rip any tracks songs or music off from1950´s they just did it off their own bat.

[slimshady0297]

Who are you? I'm your motherfucking conscience! :D

[raphiphopppp]

Eminem guilty consience

[MainOffenderKZ]

@raphiphopppp shit, i was here to find some sample but someone is faster than me!

[nuttkasekillah]

@raphiphopppp сар?

[R1S9S9R1]

I think the best beats are made by complicated sampling; time stretching, pitching and just turn the whole thing upside down. But still it's a talent to hear you can use this song for some real good shit, and you got to give a producer credits for spending half of his life listening old music. It's not like you take a random song, have some drums and that's it. It's a whole life dedicated to the art of sampling.

[McRaims]

sample this is not hard i made beats and i now this is so easy to do!

[alexturnerkill]

@McRaims how do you do it

[JokuBoy]

@McRaims

Sampling on itself is not hard, but the true difficulty is creating something beyond what you have sampled. While you indicate that you have made beats that doesn't give you authority as a successful artist or as a truly creative/original artist. If you search 'The Weathermen - 5 Left in the clip (RJD2 Mix)' the same song is sampled but the product is much different than Dre's which I view as a microcosm of my argument.

[JokuBoy]

@McRaims

Sampling on itself is not hard, but the true difficulty is creating something beyond what you have sampled. While you indicate that you have made beats that doesn't give you authority as a successful artist or as a truly creative/original artist. If you search 'The Weathermen - 5 Left in the clip (RJD2 Mix)' the same song is sampled but the product is much different than Dre's which I view as a microcosm of my argument.

[th1snme1sn0tTakn]

Godly

[Perdomom]

People who don't "get" sampling are dinosaurs. Music is changing fast these days. This is 2010 and sampling has been a part of music for almost 30 years! It started numerous genres (hip hop, almost all post-disco dance music, rock hybrids, etc.) and the people who do it best are revered, as they should be. Most don't understand that sampling requires at least some musical knowledge to make it sound good and appealing. Like the great guitar players before them the next big musician may be a DJ.

[AngryUrsaring]

I hear this on Keep Their Headz Ringin' and Guilty Conscience, so I checked the samples and found this :)

[heedz08]

DR. DRE!!!!

[birzhan94]

Guilty Conscience

[cristoballs]

it seems even ronald stein had to sample. this beat is not entirely his own creation. it's actually just a slowed down version of the beat to the peggy march song - i will follow him.

[j1zz1n3m]

what is this? like a score for a movie? just a clip of a full song ?

[beatsbygibbs]

Guilty Conscience by Eminem and Dr. Dre. Sampling is a beautiful thing.

[banzaidrop]

the reasons for this are easy: first of all because of that you just have to pay for the composition if you want to clear the rights (in opposite to: paying for that particular recording, too). second: it's a lot easiert that way. imagine a fantastic break with only one flute note bothering you. if you rerecord it you can just decide to leave it off.

[excaliba360]

@banzaidrop you should listen to more hiphop an see what it takes to bring out some of these 4 sec or so loops esp by dre and rza and dilla an others

[banzaidrop]

actually the ones claiming that "guilty conscience" wasn't sampled are right. most of the stuff Dre did the last years are interpolations - getting a band and recreate the part you want to use.

[Scott5809]

guilty conscience

[greeneyedickhead]

if it were not for sampleing we would not have these great beats

[Autotune3000]

eminem got sued for making a song called guilty conscience by a old woman because she claims that her husband wrote this for a 1970 film called getting strait as shown in this video

[SaikoDono]

if it's true, the woman was a fool.

she doesn't the know, the art of sample.

[kingod615]

everybody samples r-b rock and they dont cahge a thing at least when hiphop samples we turn it into somethimg brand new 80% of the time

[EscapeDummy]

why? hip hop is a great genre...

[peteypete1984]

i'd personally bet someone who thinks samlping which is the essence and orignal for of makin hip hop beats cause it came from turntablism which i'd bet haters couldnt do anyway i'd like to see you take tom scotts "today" and make it into they reminese over yo pete rock and cl l smooth and thats not even having to dig for the samlpe thats having a beat to go by and ur just creating that and most couldnt even do that dre looped that try chopping samples from diffrent records

[teunzeist]

word man, finding the sample is like half of the work

[steeevie]

hahahaha "hip hip"

[zebbedi]

It's not all sampled. Besides at least it sounds good unlike other shit genres.

[potlood]

if you want original music so bad ,you need to listen to jonny J former producer of 2pac shakur

[Dharmaville]

hip hip always had sampling from the very beggining.

[Bashnutter]

these voices! these voices! i ear them, and when they talk I follow!!

[ayookosun]

Sampled by HipHop Klan - BustMustJust

[cratenerd]

The only decent song on the whole soundtrack. The full length song is less than 3 min long.

[darganx]

I'm looking for the Theme Tune to Kelly's Heroes - used by Big Daddy Kane around '91..

[pimboliangel87]

"It's your mother fucking conscience..." Yeah!

[fayget1]

there's no longer version???

[abiniz]

damn dre is a genius

[sem3ability]

how is he a genious all he did was listen to the record

[abiniz]

well i stumbled upon this. he probably searched through 1000s of old records to find a good quality sample like this

[absoluutrecords]

ahaha it takes alot more then listening to it, trust me, plus he was ahead of his time your just figureing out this now, this isint dres first sample " whats the diffrence" the next episode theres much more and probally still more to come

[magicbibledotcom]

I agree, how is Dre a genius lol.

I like Dre but to be honest he's way overrated. He never and still doesn't write his own lyrics and he samples like hell.

With Guilty Conscience he's basically just taken this whole track, ain't even as if he's added or done anything to it ffs. And Em wrote the whole track.

[magicbibledotcom]

Em is a genius. He's written 3 classic hip-hop albums and produced most of his own stuff.

He produced Lose Yourself from scratch - Now that's genius. But just robbing a beat like this and sticking your name on it ain't genius.

[buduiza]

Yeah and who did em learn from?

[buduiza]

He´s said that he avoids sampling, and it´s not that terrible that he doesn´t write his own lyrics because first he´s a producer then he´s a rapper

[magicbibledotcom]

Yeah he says he avoids sampling but he doesn't.

Eminem said that and he doesn't sample. Rarely, only when a good chorus is spotted. Such as Stan or Sing For The Moment.

Dre however is one of the heaviest samplers in history.

Every song on The Chronic basically sampled about 5 or 6 songs. That's not original or creative, that's just mixing.

[buduiza]

Dre doesn´t sample that much, check the samples on 2001 and then check the samples on paid in full or 36 chambers

[jayjaysev]

he didnt change anythign eh you fuck, he actually made the entire loop longer so the its easier to rap on, and listen to both tracks and youll see the difference, and btw fuck you

[zebbedi]

If you listen carefully theres alot of differences. I don't know maybe it's just my trained ear.

[buduiza]

there´s nothing wrong with sampling, if there was then rza would not have been just listed #1 producer of all time

[magicbibledotcom]

I didn't say there was anything wrong with sampling.

But Dre does it basically every single song.

That's not original, taking someone else's music and putting a funk vibe to it.

Basically all the songs on The Chronic sampled about 5 songs.

Plus it's always a massively joint effort, I just think he gets way too much credit.

[buduiza]

ok cool, i think relapse had a few good beats and only four samples on that album

[zebbedi]

Sampling is an art, if it was easy everyone would be as good as Dre. You know nothing about it so don't make dogmatic assertions. After pitching, time stretching, equalising, stereo imaging, transient shaping and maybe other effects like reverb, compression and distortion you have to make all added orchestration sit in the mix perfectly and as far as using multiple samples well that takes a great ear.

[teunzeist]

wordwordword

[ScrewLimbBizkit]

Damn right. Too bad today most hiphop beats are just three electronic notes over and over again. No effort in it.

[MrHugost]

@zebbedi ART my ass, may be difficult, but ART is compose this, not copy/sample/Plagiarism/cover.

[zebbedi]

@MrHugost Sorry but your random and vague opinion doesn't mean anything to me.

[MrHugost]

@zebbedi I don't give a shit. If you ever try to play an instrument or compose, you will know that what I talked about is totally true.

[zebbedi]

@MrHugost Well considering I play guitar and piano and I have written songs. I would consider myself well placed to make my comments.

[GreenMonstrocity]

@MrHugost Quit being ignorant sampling is an art that takes time, skill, and a creative mind to take one wonderful song and form it into a beautiful creation. If you were smart you would know that most sampled beats are a tribute to the original artist.

[MrHugost]

@GreenMonstrocity "most sampled beats are a tribute to the original artist." This is the biggest bullshit I have ever read. Face it, if you can't write your own thing you are no longer a musician, and so, you are not doing art.

It doesnt matter if it is difficult .

You got a point when you said that need creative mind (wich it is not this case, he copy the bars exactly), I don't deny, but thats just it.

[GreenMonstrocity]

@MrHugost Let me break this down for you. Wen sampling an original song you have to have a feel for the music you are RECREATING, doesn't it mean anything to to you that producers don't sample just to rip off from great ideas they love the music they sample. And it doesn't take a genius to know that theirs more to sampling than just copying and pasting

[MrHugost]

@GreenMonstrocity Of course there's more than just copying, it is the technical stuff. But When It Comes to the Music Itself, rhythm, harmony, melody, yes, it's just copy. And When You see the result, in this particular case, it's just a polished version of the song. The artistic value of this is zero. I'm Not saying that the lirycal content has no value. Guilty Conscience pretty cool song to me, actually. Damned Producers who think They Are artists!

[GreenMonstrocity]

@MrHugost Actually since theirs different ways to sample, like chopping for instance it keeps the same sound but can add a different rthym and melody to a drum pattern that you can make, And what the fuck is wrong with blending a song with a oldies feel to a hip hop feel?

[justblaze1111]

@MrHugost - right o.k, u play the guitar and piano and write ur own stuff blah,blah,blah... i know plenty people who do that but are SHIT!!!!. u tryin to tell people that dr dre who is not only recognised in the hip hop world for his production excellence but by producers and musicians of ALL genres! i.e BURT BACHARACH, QUINCY JONES!!! u talk like u been making hit records for years! bet u havnt???? STOP TALKING UR SHITE.

[freekyfreestyle]

@zebbedi Greatly Said.

[MrStudioManic]

its really easy compared to making your own music

[zebbedi]

@MrStudioManic It's not. Some people are better at sampling, some are synthesis experts, some people record live instruments and let others do the mix down There is a number of areas of expertise. If sampling is so easy to you why don't you show some videos of your work and let the YT community be the judge? Like anything else, it may be easy to do but it's difficult to master.

[MrStudioManic]

@zebbedi good answer- ok i'll post some

[mcha8056]

@zebbedi actually bone thugs n harmony were the first to same this song. bone thugs n harmony- me killa

[logan6699]

hahah 2001 has pretty much 0 sampling fuck tard

[analect303]

2001 has alot of sampling fuck tard

[fantomhiphop]

@logan6699 the first blueprint came out in 2001 and all but two songs on that cd are built from samples

[meltzman01]

you need to listen to some good hip hop lie Lecrae and 116clique

[Crispysmith123]

WTF? Elliot Gould?

[mezmoreeyezed]

em sampled this in guilty concence shit

[auhosj877]

haha awesome sample

[anthroslime]

dusty fingers!!