@benspreen It depends on weight, but ususally right around 100 kts. The MU2 doesn't have poor roll control at low speeds, but as you can see from the video on final, having spoilers does require a good amount of control wheel deflection at lower speeds to get the airplane to do what you want.
@jvandervalk Field elevation is 4436, so I fly the MU2 at about 5500. The pistons fly at about 5300. Almost all the accidents that have occured are the result of an overshoot, so although it may seem counterintuitve, I will tend toward the lower end of the range.
@jvandervalk I would never takeoff uphill (nor land downhill). The gradient has more effect than almost any wind. A downhill landing is also dangerous because your base-to-final turn puts the energy vector pointed right at the clubhouse and swimming pool, i.e. if you overshoot you are potentially going to hurt a bunch of people on the ground.
I've thought several times about getting a weekend rental out there and flying my 172 up- but everytime I start planning and see that big fat WARNING SEVERE TURBULENCE AROUND MT MITCHEL box on the sectional. Any words of wisdom about that?
do you know Reese Howell? (KMQY) he gave me .5 right seat time in a mitz.. he is in the TN Aviation Hall of Fame and has thousands of hours, if you like Mitz you should look him up he is the greatest guy in the world.
That plane sure stops fast. I think it was build with that in mind. A small turbo prop for business use. You get a ton of plane for the price and I think it has a sharp design. Such a beautiful plane. I like it better then the King Air.
Most of the time we call it a yoke, but control wheel is OK.
The spoilers in an MU2 require more control wheel deflection at the lower speeds typical of final approach than conventional aileron equipped aircraft.
About 3000'. At Mountain Air, we are always a good 1000-2000 lbs below gross, so the numbers work by the book. Realistically, most airplanes are committed very early in the takeoff run. Good news is there is a valley off the end of the runway if you need to dive to get airspeed.
Question: Assume you landed at Mountian Air Airport using normal breaking and reverse as required.
If you were doing a quick turn could you depart right away? I am curious if the Mitz requires any "cool down" period on the breaks to meet break energy requiremts as spelled out in the AFM? Thanks -kd
I am unaware of a cool down requirement for the brakes. There is a 3 min cool down requirement for the engines, measured from when the CLs are pulled back after landing, until they can be shut down.
what is your air speed that you came in at? i hear that the mu-2 has poor low speed roll control from a friend(jvandervalk)
benspreen 9 months ago
@benspreen It depends on weight, but ususally right around 100 kts. The MU2 doesn't have poor roll control at low speeds, but as you can see from the video on final, having spoilers does require a good amount of control wheel deflection at lower speeds to get the airplane to do what you want.
mtnairpilot 9 months ago
@mtnairpilot do you ever fly out of horace williams airport at unc?
benspreen 9 months ago
@benspreen Been there a few times. My daughter looked at going there.
mtnairpilot 9 months ago
What altitude do you fly the pattern at in the MU-2 when at 2NC0?
jvandervalk 9 months ago
@jvandervalk Field elevation is 4436, so I fly the MU2 at about 5500. The pistons fly at about 5300. Almost all the accidents that have occured are the result of an overshoot, so although it may seem counterintuitve, I will tend toward the lower end of the range.
mtnairpilot 9 months ago
@mtnairpilot Thanks for the very quick response! I have another question, do you always takeoff downhill(14) or can you takeoff uphill also?
jvandervalk 9 months ago
@jvandervalk I would never takeoff uphill (nor land downhill). The gradient has more effect than almost any wind. A downhill landing is also dangerous because your base-to-final turn puts the energy vector pointed right at the clubhouse and swimming pool, i.e. if you overshoot you are potentially going to hurt a bunch of people on the ground.
mtnairpilot 9 months ago
I've thought several times about getting a weekend rental out there and flying my 172 up- but everytime I start planning and see that big fat WARNING SEVERE TURBULENCE AROUND MT MITCHEL box on the sectional. Any words of wisdom about that?
jmillski1 1 year ago
I have 4500 hours in them things. No big deal.
12Jetdiver55 1 year ago
do you know Reese Howell? (KMQY) he gave me .5 right seat time in a mitz.. he is in the TN Aviation Hall of Fame and has thousands of hours, if you like Mitz you should look him up he is the greatest guy in the world.
findyouahome 1 year ago
amazing area, I live in north carolina and never even heard of this place! Sounds like heaven to me!
MacBooker4444 1 year ago
nice vids seems to be an excellent a/c looks like a lot of fun to fly. maybe one of these days i'll get my chance.
Mr308winmag 1 year ago
That plane sure stops fast. I think it was build with that in mind. A small turbo prop for business use. You get a ton of plane for the price and I think it has a sharp design. Such a beautiful plane. I like it better then the King Air.
photobart1 1 year ago
Thanks so much for this vid. I'm not a pilot but have scheduled my 1st lesson!
I was amazed by the amount you had to turn the wheel to keep level as you approached the runway.
Is that normal? Do you even call it a wheel in an airplane? LOL.
SkiMadRiverGlen 1 year ago
Most of the time we call it a yoke, but control wheel is OK.
The spoilers in an MU2 require more control wheel deflection at the lower speeds typical of final approach than conventional aileron equipped aircraft.
Good luck with your flying lessons.
mtnairpilot 1 year ago
Great landing i am student i hope one day i can fly this kind of bird "Concra"
avlandscaping1 2 years ago
Was the air really choppy on final?
numaelacosta 2 years ago
Yes, it almost always is. However, it usually smooths out on short final, and there is rarely any crosswind due to the mountain.
mtnairpilot 2 years ago
Awesome landing. Love the concentration. I want one. It hauls.
Section31Trinity 2 years ago
Great thanks. Matt studant pilot with 27 hrs
shay29772003 2 years ago
Out of curiosity, what's the accelerate stop distance for the MU2...at average weights, etc?
stlflyguy 2 years ago
About 3000'. At Mountain Air, we are always a good 1000-2000 lbs below gross, so the numbers work by the book. Realistically, most airplanes are committed very early in the takeoff run. Good news is there is a valley off the end of the runway if you need to dive to get airspeed.
mtnairpilot 2 years ago
Great job with the info balloons. Let's create a folder on web site and stick this and other similar videos in to help people coming in the 1st time.
howellhammond 2 years ago
Why does the video cut right before touchdown, and resume after the aircraft is on the ground.....bad landing?
capceo 2 years ago
No, when we touched down the camera swung around on its mount. It took us a second to get it back around, so we edited that part out.
mtnairpilot 2 years ago
it was scary at 3:30 when the pilot dipped down,im like oh my god!u guys are lucky
dondycluck 2 years ago
like how u gave us the informations
dondycluck 2 years ago
OK, thanks for the quick response and for not correcting my spelling (breaks - brakes).
KiloDelta302 2 years ago
Greg Mink Used to be my favorite pilot.
johnjcarter 2 years ago
Question: Assume you landed at Mountian Air Airport using normal breaking and reverse as required.
If you were doing a quick turn could you depart right away? I am curious if the Mitz requires any "cool down" period on the breaks to meet break energy requiremts as spelled out in the AFM? Thanks -kd
KiloDelta302 2 years ago
I am unaware of a cool down requirement for the brakes. There is a 3 min cool down requirement for the engines, measured from when the CLs are pulled back after landing, until they can be shut down.
mtnairpilot 2 years ago
Impressive plane, impressive piloting. Great video!
gregmink 2 years ago
Keep these coming!!! MU's are great and we need more vids like this, Thanks!
Tom
tom080955 2 years ago
Thanks for posting this! 5*
jvandervalk 2 years ago