what a wonderful video. The key thought for me from the video is to lower our standards. That is not what our society wants to hear but there is nothing wrong with not wanting as much. I left a job in 2010 and am making half the money and doing just fine. I have never owned a home and now I rent a room from a friend. I let my car go back and paid a family member $100 for a truck. There are tons of options if people would only be willing to explore them.
RUSSIA has been in a state of Chaos since Lennin and before, BIG BROTHER, OPPRESSION, STARVATION, JEWS running from RUSSIA in the 1970s, PRISON for speaking out, constant depression!
THIS GUY IS a disimformationist!
Reasons for the USA going into depression are similiar, but dont dare tell me that RUSSIA was sumetrical to the USA! That's just plain idiotic.
@ryanbrooks11388, this interview was actually taped on the Nevada County fairgrounds in Grass Valley. We try to make shows relaxing and intimate. ...I agree with your response to shufang100 about collapse coming more quickly than we expect. Last weekend we taped Chris Martenson, who shows we're experiencing an ever-accelerating pace due to exponential rises in population, exponential use of resources, exponential debt levels. Unprecedented in human history.
@peakmoment Thank You. I have watched a few of your episodes and I have enjoyed each one of them very much......keep up the good work and I will continue to watch : )
I hope shufang100 is seriously joking when he/she says that....If not, you sir/ma'am have no idea how quick this is going to hit you (all of us). Do not expect a slow and steady decline into collapse. It will not end that way. Just think about the exponential growth function and how humans are not decreasing their birthrates at a significant enough pace and how we are not decreasing our "expected" rate of consumption. people are not educated enough. No, it will come very quick....prepare please
I believe that it is human nature to wait until catastrophic events occur and then try to react in some feeble manner. Overpopulation, limited resources, greed, religion, biology, and/or technology are going to kill off the human race far into the future. I chuckle when I see people try to save a species from extinction or some government pass a pollution law. It won't help in the long run. Death to the planet is inevitable. Glad we won't be here to see it. It's going to get ugly.
It is not possible to "lower our expectations." Our expectation, at the very least, is to survive. In order for us to survive, what little is left of nature will HAVE to be killed off. And then man too will die away. In order for the planet to survive, and a few of us along with it, our expectations will have to be set at less than what it takes to survive. Therefore, it is not possible to lower expectations. Therefore, the brutish future we all dread will be upon us.
Few will put up with lower standard of living peacefully. There will be more violence, more ecological destruction as people unlawfully cut down trees and hunt animals until forests are wiped out.. that will just hasten problems with topsoil erosion. Meanwhile metal thieving meth heads will probably knock out the grid in some areas as they try to steal the wire
@RoberTastic The standard of living reduction that can make a radiance needn't be life threatening. Recent history has shown us that people will accept a none life threatening lowering and not resort to violence. Over the years those who have had a standard of living where their life is continually under threat haven't resorted to violence.
@MrHeggna I can't agree. There is so much unused food production capacity in the US, we can feed a lot more within our own borders. Wiser use of water would insure water for them as well. Those in the 3rd. world countries that say we need to feed, can feed themselves if we would butt out. Even hardship created by natural events can be mitigated.
@MrHeggna, wow that's quite fatalistic! You're saying humans won't change until it's too late. I hope a lot of people wake up and do what they can to stop the destruction of the planet. And begin to do the reforesting and local-scale perennial polycultures food production, so there's potential for some humans and non-humans to continue.
My favorite part of the video is 10:18 . It's what I've always said to people around me and the one thing I want every westerner to get through our head. Let's re-evaluate the definition of success. Our definition "success" is absolutely pointless. Great videos as usual @peakmoment.
@lordhasen. Collapse may not itself be a physical law, but the conditions bringing on collapse DO follow physical laws. Overpopulation and overconsumption of non-renewable resources...means we'll have less (and more expensive) oil, water. Every civilization has come done because they demanded more resources than their environment could provide. Pretty close to a physical law...
@healingdaily Respectfully I really doubt you are living rent free unless your van is permanently parked, and you own the land on which it's parked. In the event the van is mobile, and parking on private or public property where you pay now one for doing so others may be paying your rent & if you pay to park, you are paying rent.
We tend to think the grass is greener elsewhere & that other cultures are doing so much more than our own- this is false. I think the same amount of people are good & bad everywhere. The EU bans the use of Atrazine but Switzerland still sells it to the US & others including New Zealand. We tend to criticize our environment but the corps are everywhere doing the same thing... Do Americans not help their friends/family but only the Mexicans who may care little about others except their families?
Dmitry is all over the place so often it's hard for me to see where we would have common ground for long He uses too broad a brush too much When things go into the pot their will be those who can't depend on families, and neighbors that families can't trust much less depend on. I shouldn't go there but. People of faith do hold the power in the US & I don't see them being much help, even if in the past their grand parents, parents because of their faith lived as suggested here. Go figure.
This guy is so refreshing because I have already implemented his solutions in my life. I felt like a failure, but have been getting more comfortable with it.
Very good video since that "Liar" Keith video. You are gaining some redemption here peakmoment. Great video!
Just as the power output of a car is a function of its fuel consumption, the standard of living is the function of one's sacrifice of one's time. We work our life away for the profit of some obscure institution I'd say f**k it.
I just wish to say that theres a comment re. illegal immigrants & Hispanics & that Hispanics do things for their families. This is not always the case. I wish to comment that Mexicans & Hispanics are different & there are multiple realities w/in Hispanic culture & Mexican culture & Caucasian American culture- lets not forget that females in general are not treated as equally w/in Latin culture so its basically the women holding-up a family or broken family. Let's not romanticize reality plz!
Here in México we don´t hear much about the ones who don´t send money and do hear a lot from those who do who are many. Many others become individualistic and fully asimilate to american mainstream culture.
I'm happy to say that I'm in a community that is already doing a lot of these things... AND I have taken steps to simplify my life and am still paring it down, starting with ditching the "regular job" for a consulting business, not buying anything new, bartering and eating a more local and sustainable diet.
If you treat people without a job as a 1st class individual then later when you don't have a job they'll forget everything you did for them and treat you like a 3rd class individual. That's REAL life.
I have personally withnesed the oposite. But yes, it is hard to know who to thrust, specially in certain places. Anyway, treating people with respect is free so even if they don´t live to your expectations afterward you have lost nothing.
@manilaenglish Practicing the golden rule can't grantee reciprocity, but I'm certain grinding others under your foot when they are down just may bring reciprocity, if you are down. No guarantee on that other. As the comment below me points out, we loose nothing by treating others with respect, why not use have respect as the default?
@donyunger I didn't say anything about respecting people. The video clearly discussed INVESTING in people. Obviously you don't want to go around disrespecting someone just for the sake of disrespecting them. Of course, treat people with kindness, just don't go spending a lot of money on them thinking that you're investing in your future. Friends are not bought. If you try to buy your friends affection, the moment your money is gone they will stop pretending to be your friend.
His comments on "Americans need to reduce their standards" are odd to me. He is talking about urban and suburban life and seems to have "a chip on his shoulder." Millions of people in the US, Japan, the EU, and even Bombay/Mumbai are already living at collapsing standards and aren't going to quit their jobs. His idealism may be attractive, but... it may be irrelevant for many.
@144jr144 ...odd to me too! ...the more I opt out of the 'fabled' standard the more I feel as though I'm raising my standard of life ...I'm certainly having more fun and using less 'oil produce' to boot... I'm working for and with myself ...foraging is great fun ;-])
@gaiagale Actually, the standards sets by the consumer society are false. Getting rid of the crappy food and useless junk and using your own creativity and resourcefulness is actually raising your standards, not lowering them!
@gaiagale It's rare to hear the word "citizen" these days. We are regarded as "consumers", mere components in a massive machine that turns resources into profit. Even our own living energy is regarded as a consumable by the "human resources" departments of the corporations that seek to own the world. We have a duty to our descendents to reclaim our lives. We know how to design highly functional, sustainable, not-for-profit forage systems, and foraging is indeed fun. It's also enlivening.
@StonewoodFoodForest oh yes indeed! ...and... foraging is free yet mutually profiable in the purest sense of the word ...my neighbours love it when I ask permission to pick up their fallen fruit and or the mushrooms (which btw are the fruiting body of the fungii) on their lawn ...I am really excited that one day the very same neighbours will come to me one day and say thanks for sharing your knowledge ...we have decided that we see the value and we are going to forage our own bounty...
@gaiagale You don't want to encourage foraging too much. The few wild areas left can't sustain our population and would be destroyed immediately if everyone started foraging.
I think it is best kept a well kept secret for insiders like you and perhaps me someday.
@zigzigerblat most of my foraging is right in my yard and neighbourhood ...many of the plants and mushrooms are shunned as 'weeds' or 'nusances' ...the careful researching and and naming of the plants and mushrooms is a way of connecting with local human resources in determining edibility ...most places where I forage are usually in my yard and definitely within walking distance of my home ...it is easy to find value everywhere if one simply looks ...here's to "creativity and resourcefulness"
@gaiagale Here here. I have found so much fruit rotting on the vine. People have been brainwashed into thinking "If you didn't pay for it, its not safe.. or clean" when in fact the opposite is often true. I found vines with hundreds of lbs of delicious concord grapes and an apple tree loaded down with apples that are better than any I have ever bought.
@zigzigerblat Mushrooms are the fruiting body of fungii and an amazing source of B vitamins ...find your local human resource at the university and forestry departments ...the are great mushroom keys on the internet and thousands of amazing images of mushrooms ...one of my most favourite mushrooms is the 'shaggy mane' it is easy to recognize ,,,it is a good idea to be cautious but there are lots of ways to check and identify 'shrooms
@zigzigerblat We can design and create highly productive, climate-moderating forage systems on any scale, in any climate that will feed more people, more efficiently than the current debt-driven system. We humans may well be the most powerful creative imaginations in the entire universe; why are we taught to be ashamed of that? We can build nuclear power stations and put satellites into orbit, so we must be able to garden on any scale. We've allowed ourselves to conned. We can change that.
@StonewoodFoodForest I believe there is a misunderstanding here. If we create it and it is a system or if it is called a garden.. it is not foraging. Foraging is collecting wild foods in a wild forest. I don't want to be one of those pricks on youtube that corrects everyone, so sorry about that.
I love the idea of creating localized gardens and living in close proximity.
Remember, we are creative, but there are those more creative than us.
Interesting! ... 2 comments appeared ...there's a story here... when I posted my comment I saw 'error try again' in red ...so I posted again suddenly my comment appeared in duplicate ...hence the 'comment removed' note ...now I'm done ;-])
Those operations of organized coercion that respond most "appropriately" to the emerging global economic shift (which will vary from place to place and time to time) will either dissolve or be replaced. Some will thrive and some will not.
That author's perspective is relatively simple and clear and unbiased, compared to some other guests you have interviewed. But "how far down the rabbit hole" are you willing to go?
I like the latest video and... that author seems to me to be missing some recognition of the extent of the political (and economic) shift underway. There is soaring opportunity as well as soaring risk, including things like civil disorder.
I use the term "organized coercion" several times in the following post from today. I do not use it with condemnation or fear. It is a simple reality. Governments are all operations of organized coercion.
We are trained to buy. The more you buy, the more stuff is needed. The more stuff that's needed, the more jobs there are. Stop buying, less stuff is needed, the less jobs there are. Even now people keep begging someone else to give them a job that gives them enough money so they can buy more stuff. The change will be hard, because people are use to have someone else give them work instead of them looking around and seeing what services are needed and then training themselves to fill that need.
The future he's talking about ("collapse") sounds so much better than the present we're in. I'm doing a lot of what he suggests already, but I do worry about the reaction of the shopping zombies when the compost hits the fan, you know? I just think they're really gonna freak. Or will it be a sort of slow motion thing and people will adapt over time, because they'll have to?
@hguyw I am too! ...and the changes are really interesting to work through
yes ...I think it (the change) will be a sort of slow motion thing and people will adapt over time, because they'll have to? ...change/adaptation is always more palatable when we change and/or adapt because we want to...
we will survive ...we will even thrive ...the 'current consumer culture' will 'do otherwise' ;-])
what a wonderful video. The key thought for me from the video is to lower our standards. That is not what our society wants to hear but there is nothing wrong with not wanting as much. I left a job in 2010 and am making half the money and doing just fine. I have never owned a home and now I rent a room from a friend. I let my car go back and paid a family member $100 for a truck. There are tons of options if people would only be willing to explore them.
skyybutter1 1 month ago
RUSSIA WAS SYMETRICAL TO THE USA?
WHat the hell is this guy been smoking?
RUSSIA has been in a state of Chaos since Lennin and before, BIG BROTHER, OPPRESSION, STARVATION, JEWS running from RUSSIA in the 1970s, PRISON for speaking out, constant depression!
THIS GUY IS a disimformationist!
Reasons for the USA going into depression are similiar, but dont dare tell me that RUSSIA was sumetrical to the USA! That's just plain idiotic.
tgvas 2 months ago in playlist More videos from peakmoment
where is this interview being done? It looks very relaxing and small; my kind of place
ryanbrooks11388 4 months ago
@ryanbrooks11388, this interview was actually taped on the Nevada County fairgrounds in Grass Valley. We try to make shows relaxing and intimate. ...I agree with your response to shufang100 about collapse coming more quickly than we expect. Last weekend we taped Chris Martenson, who shows we're experiencing an ever-accelerating pace due to exponential rises in population, exponential use of resources, exponential debt levels. Unprecedented in human history.
peakmoment 4 months ago
@peakmoment Thank You. I have watched a few of your episodes and I have enjoyed each one of them very much......keep up the good work and I will continue to watch : )
ryanbrooks11388 4 months ago
I hope shufang100 is seriously joking when he/she says that....If not, you sir/ma'am have no idea how quick this is going to hit you (all of us). Do not expect a slow and steady decline into collapse. It will not end that way. Just think about the exponential growth function and how humans are not decreasing their birthrates at a significant enough pace and how we are not decreasing our "expected" rate of consumption. people are not educated enough. No, it will come very quick....prepare please
ryanbrooks11388 4 months ago
Any use for out of work librarians in Orlov's post-collapse era?
1977Melville 4 months ago
@1977Melville Not as librarians.
Axbent 4 months ago
CA breaking off from USA?! Wow. That would be something.
1977Melville 4 months ago
Listen very careful what this man says. US will collapse soon.
shufang100 4 months ago
@shufang100 Hes been saying that for years though. Not that I disbelieve him in general, but don't panic too much, just enuff to be awake.
Axbent 4 months ago
Subconsciously, the Wall Street protesters want to do everything Orlov is saying but they just don't know it yet.
Angry6676 4 months ago
I believe that it is human nature to wait until catastrophic events occur and then try to react in some feeble manner. Overpopulation, limited resources, greed, religion, biology, and/or technology are going to kill off the human race far into the future. I chuckle when I see people try to save a species from extinction or some government pass a pollution law. It won't help in the long run. Death to the planet is inevitable. Glad we won't be here to see it. It's going to get ugly.
spinmonkey4401 4 months ago
Thankyou… This clip really resonates a chord with us... we have been trying to want less and as a result we are finding we have more...
Chris
MrChrisTowerton 4 months ago
I think Orlov is confusion fiat currency with money. Barter is not a good system.
shaurz 4 months ago
it was a financial meltdown and a political. Russia still has its resources ... and there are still there even growing.
so wait what?!
MrElektrolyt 4 months ago
Rewrite the rules. These rules are constructs of the mind. Kobayashi Maru.
TheNewRenaissance 5 months ago
It is not possible to "lower our expectations." Our expectation, at the very least, is to survive. In order for us to survive, what little is left of nature will HAVE to be killed off. And then man too will die away. In order for the planet to survive, and a few of us along with it, our expectations will have to be set at less than what it takes to survive. Therefore, it is not possible to lower expectations. Therefore, the brutish future we all dread will be upon us.
MrHeggna 5 months ago
@MrHeggna
Few will put up with lower standard of living peacefully. There will be more violence, more ecological destruction as people unlawfully cut down trees and hunt animals until forests are wiped out.. that will just hasten problems with topsoil erosion. Meanwhile metal thieving meth heads will probably knock out the grid in some areas as they try to steal the wire
RoberTastic 5 months ago
@RoberTastic The standard of living reduction that can make a radiance needn't be life threatening. Recent history has shown us that people will accept a none life threatening lowering and not resort to violence. Over the years those who have had a standard of living where their life is continually under threat haven't resorted to violence.
donyunger 5 months ago
@MrHeggna I can't agree. There is so much unused food production capacity in the US, we can feed a lot more within our own borders. Wiser use of water would insure water for them as well. Those in the 3rd. world countries that say we need to feed, can feed themselves if we would butt out. Even hardship created by natural events can be mitigated.
donyunger 5 months ago
@MrHeggna, wow that's quite fatalistic! You're saying humans won't change until it's too late. I hope a lot of people wake up and do what they can to stop the destruction of the planet. And begin to do the reforesting and local-scale perennial polycultures food production, so there's potential for some humans and non-humans to continue.
peakmoment 4 months ago
One of the best shows I've seen. Thanks. I will definitely pick up the two books mentioned.
LenoraForest 5 months ago
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My favorite part of the video is 10:18 . It's what I've always said to people around me and the one thing I want every westerner to get through our head. Let's re-evaluate the definition of success. Our definition "success" is absolutely pointless. Great videos as usual @peakmoment.
pria114 5 months ago
I really dont like this "collaps is unstoppable" . Collaps is not like a physical law .
lordhasen 5 months ago
@lordhasen. Collapse may not itself be a physical law, but the conditions bringing on collapse DO follow physical laws. Overpopulation and overconsumption of non-renewable resources...means we'll have less (and more expensive) oil, water. Every civilization has come done because they demanded more resources than their environment could provide. Pretty close to a physical law...
peakmoment 5 months ago 3
@lordhasen Google "Jared Diamond" and Collapse
Axbent 4 months ago
"people don't believe people who just talk". Very good. I am living rent-free in a solar powered van.
healingdaily 5 months ago 3
@healingdaily Respectfully I really doubt you are living rent free unless your van is permanently parked, and you own the land on which it's parked. In the event the van is mobile, and parking on private or public property where you pay now one for doing so others may be paying your rent & if you pay to park, you are paying rent.
donyunger 5 months ago
I hear drumming and singing in the background... appropriate!
TrevorsGarden 5 months ago
We tend to think the grass is greener elsewhere & that other cultures are doing so much more than our own- this is false. I think the same amount of people are good & bad everywhere. The EU bans the use of Atrazine but Switzerland still sells it to the US & others including New Zealand. We tend to criticize our environment but the corps are everywhere doing the same thing... Do Americans not help their friends/family but only the Mexicans who may care little about others except their families?
anglinthemtns 5 months ago
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Oilbeefooked 5 months ago
Dmitry is all over the place so often it's hard for me to see where we would have common ground for long He uses too broad a brush too much When things go into the pot their will be those who can't depend on families, and neighbors that families can't trust much less depend on. I shouldn't go there but. People of faith do hold the power in the US & I don't see them being much help, even if in the past their grand parents, parents because of their faith lived as suggested here. Go figure.
donyunger 5 months ago
Here comes the Total Collapse....TotalCollapse . com
wwwCrashJPMcom 5 months ago
Excellent video. The times are definitely changing, for the better.
jimmie200 5 months ago
Good video
BananaJSSI 5 months ago
This guy is so refreshing because I have already implemented his solutions in my life. I felt like a failure, but have been getting more comfortable with it.
Very good video since that "Liar" Keith video. You are gaining some redemption here peakmoment. Great video!
zigzigerblat 5 months ago
Just as the power output of a car is a function of its fuel consumption, the standard of living is the function of one's sacrifice of one's time. We work our life away for the profit of some obscure institution I'd say f**k it.
tributearner 5 months ago
I just wish to say that theres a comment re. illegal immigrants & Hispanics & that Hispanics do things for their families. This is not always the case. I wish to comment that Mexicans & Hispanics are different & there are multiple realities w/in Hispanic culture & Mexican culture & Caucasian American culture- lets not forget that females in general are not treated as equally w/in Latin culture so its basically the women holding-up a family or broken family. Let's not romanticize reality plz!
anglinthemtns 5 months ago
@anglinthemtns
Here in México we don´t hear much about the ones who don´t send money and do hear a lot from those who do who are many. Many others become individualistic and fully asimilate to american mainstream culture.
panstriato2 5 months ago
I'm happy to say that I'm in a community that is already doing a lot of these things... AND I have taken steps to simplify my life and am still paring it down, starting with ditching the "regular job" for a consulting business, not buying anything new, bartering and eating a more local and sustainable diet.
ddshears 5 months ago
If you treat people without a job as a 1st class individual then later when you don't have a job they'll forget everything you did for them and treat you like a 3rd class individual. That's REAL life.
manilaenglish 5 months ago
@manilaenglish
I have personally withnesed the oposite. But yes, it is hard to know who to thrust, specially in certain places. Anyway, treating people with respect is free so even if they don´t live to your expectations afterward you have lost nothing.
panstriato2 5 months ago
@manilaenglish Practicing the golden rule can't grantee reciprocity, but I'm certain grinding others under your foot when they are down just may bring reciprocity, if you are down. No guarantee on that other. As the comment below me points out, we loose nothing by treating others with respect, why not use have respect as the default?
donyunger 5 months ago
@donyunger I didn't say anything about respecting people. The video clearly discussed INVESTING in people. Obviously you don't want to go around disrespecting someone just for the sake of disrespecting them. Of course, treat people with kindness, just don't go spending a lot of money on them thinking that you're investing in your future. Friends are not bought. If you try to buy your friends affection, the moment your money is gone they will stop pretending to be your friend.
manilaenglish 5 months ago
How to sh*t in the Woods baby! :D
DragonYearJoji 5 months ago
Great vid.
whiskerchild 5 months ago
Keep up the great work, peak moment.
neptronix 5 months ago
Dmitry Orlov brings forth subject matter as important as dis Gandhi, stephan Moleneux.
Beesnchickens 5 months ago
the title kind of was off putting ...still... the dialogue went above and beyond...
I'm pleased that I opened and warmed to the prospect
thanks for sharing
gaiagale 5 months ago
His comments on "Americans need to reduce their standards" are odd to me. He is talking about urban and suburban life and seems to have "a chip on his shoulder." Millions of people in the US, Japan, the EU, and even Bombay/Mumbai are already living at collapsing standards and aren't going to quit their jobs. His idealism may be attractive, but... it may be irrelevant for many.
144jr144 5 months ago
@144jr144 ...odd to me too! ...the more I opt out of the 'fabled' standard the more I feel as though I'm raising my standard of life ...I'm certainly having more fun and using less 'oil produce' to boot... I'm working for and with myself ...foraging is great fun ;-])
gaiagale 5 months ago
@gaiagale Actually, the standards sets by the consumer society are false. Getting rid of the crappy food and useless junk and using your own creativity and resourcefulness is actually raising your standards, not lowering them!
StonewoodFoodForest 5 months ago 2
@StonewoodFoodForest Indeed! ...here's to raising our standards! ...living as CITIZENS rather than consumers
here's to "creativity and resourcefulness" ...and again I type "foraging is great fun ;-])"
respect
gaiagale 5 months ago 2
@gaiagale It's rare to hear the word "citizen" these days. We are regarded as "consumers", mere components in a massive machine that turns resources into profit. Even our own living energy is regarded as a consumable by the "human resources" departments of the corporations that seek to own the world. We have a duty to our descendents to reclaim our lives. We know how to design highly functional, sustainable, not-for-profit forage systems, and foraging is indeed fun. It's also enlivening.
StonewoodFoodForest 5 months ago
@StonewoodFoodForest oh yes indeed! ...and... foraging is free yet mutually profiable in the purest sense of the word ...my neighbours love it when I ask permission to pick up their fallen fruit and or the mushrooms (which btw are the fruiting body of the fungii) on their lawn ...I am really excited that one day the very same neighbours will come to me one day and say thanks for sharing your knowledge ...we have decided that we see the value and we are going to forage our own bounty...
gaiagale 5 months ago
@gaiagale You don't want to encourage foraging too much. The few wild areas left can't sustain our population and would be destroyed immediately if everyone started foraging.
I think it is best kept a well kept secret for insiders like you and perhaps me someday.
zigzigerblat 5 months ago
@zigzigerblat most of my foraging is right in my yard and neighbourhood ...many of the plants and mushrooms are shunned as 'weeds' or 'nusances' ...the careful researching and and naming of the plants and mushrooms is a way of connecting with local human resources in determining edibility ...most places where I forage are usually in my yard and definitely within walking distance of my home ...it is easy to find value everywhere if one simply looks ...here's to "creativity and resourcefulness"
gaiagale 5 months ago
@gaiagale Here here. I have found so much fruit rotting on the vine. People have been brainwashed into thinking "If you didn't pay for it, its not safe.. or clean" when in fact the opposite is often true. I found vines with hundreds of lbs of delicious concord grapes and an apple tree loaded down with apples that are better than any I have ever bought.
I am too scared to touch the mushrooms though.
zigzigerblat 5 months ago
@zigzigerblat Mushrooms are the fruiting body of fungii and an amazing source of B vitamins ...find your local human resource at the university and forestry departments ...the are great mushroom keys on the internet and thousands of amazing images of mushrooms ...one of my most favourite mushrooms is the 'shaggy mane' it is easy to recognize ,,,it is a good idea to be cautious but there are lots of ways to check and identify 'shrooms
gaiagale 5 months ago
@gaiagale I love mushrooms but don't want to go out like the buddha.
zigzigerblat 5 months ago
@zigzigerblat ;-])
gaiagale 5 months ago
@zigzigerblat We can design and create highly productive, climate-moderating forage systems on any scale, in any climate that will feed more people, more efficiently than the current debt-driven system. We humans may well be the most powerful creative imaginations in the entire universe; why are we taught to be ashamed of that? We can build nuclear power stations and put satellites into orbit, so we must be able to garden on any scale. We've allowed ourselves to conned. We can change that.
StonewoodFoodForest 4 months ago
@StonewoodFoodForest I believe there is a misunderstanding here. If we create it and it is a system or if it is called a garden.. it is not foraging. Foraging is collecting wild foods in a wild forest. I don't want to be one of those pricks on youtube that corrects everyone, so sorry about that.
I love the idea of creating localized gardens and living in close proximity.
Remember, we are creative, but there are those more creative than us.
zigzigerblat 4 months ago
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gaiagale 5 months ago
Interesting! ... 2 comments appeared ...there's a story here... when I posted my comment I saw 'error try again' in red ...so I posted again suddenly my comment appeared in duplicate ...hence the 'comment removed' note ...now I'm done ;-])
gaiagale 5 months ago
Those operations of organized coercion that respond most "appropriately" to the emerging global economic shift (which will vary from place to place and time to time) will either dissolve or be replaced. Some will thrive and some will not.
That author's perspective is relatively simple and clear and unbiased, compared to some other guests you have interviewed. But "how far down the rabbit hole" are you willing to go?
144jr144 5 months ago
I like the latest video and... that author seems to me to be missing some recognition of the extent of the political (and economic) shift underway. There is soaring opportunity as well as soaring risk, including things like civil disorder.
I use the term "organized coercion" several times in the following post from today. I do not use it with condemnation or fear. It is a simple reality. Governments are all operations of organized coercion.
144jr144 5 months ago
@144jr144
He deals with many oportunities in his blog!
panstriato2 5 months ago
thnx quite enjoyable
StrongArmZZ 5 months ago
the family is an important social security support in" poor" countries.they r rich in family life.
vidaripollen 5 months ago
We are trained to buy. The more you buy, the more stuff is needed. The more stuff that's needed, the more jobs there are. Stop buying, less stuff is needed, the less jobs there are. Even now people keep begging someone else to give them a job that gives them enough money so they can buy more stuff. The change will be hard, because people are use to have someone else give them work instead of them looking around and seeing what services are needed and then training themselves to fill that need.
HedgeLiving 5 months ago
The future he's talking about ("collapse") sounds so much better than the present we're in. I'm doing a lot of what he suggests already, but I do worry about the reaction of the shopping zombies when the compost hits the fan, you know? I just think they're really gonna freak. Or will it be a sort of slow motion thing and people will adapt over time, because they'll have to?
hguyw 5 months ago
@hguyw I am too! ...and the changes are really interesting to work through
yes ...I think it (the change) will be a sort of slow motion thing and people will adapt over time, because they'll have to? ...change/adaptation is always more palatable when we change and/or adapt because we want to...
we will survive ...we will even thrive ...the 'current consumer culture' will 'do otherwise' ;-])
gaiagale 5 months ago