Just goes to show what liars FYROM nationalists are. The paper this video references was OFFICIALLY withdrawn from scientific journals years ago for being so terrible (using only a single marker). It was so bad the author accused of polical biaes by his own scientific peers (same author bizarrely claimed Jews are closely related to Palestinians and Japanese to western africans!)
@GemistusPletho Yes that is true. iGenea withdrew its findings due to severe protest from the Greek government and due to thousands and thousands of questions and statements on internet from greek people. But iGenea based in Switserland is not the only company who did this kind of research . Two more did the same research with the same results. So is everybody making the same mistake??? Macedonia to the Macedonians. Macedonia never greek. oh excuse me, geek.
You are deluding yourself if you think they had a scientific leg to stand on. They withdrew their claims because they knew they were scientifically fraudulent. (why they could not produce the source of the DNA for peer review)
You make claims of others getting the same results... but do not provide sources. Talk is cheep.
Funny that you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of the former Yugoslavia constantly slander Greeks as "fascists". I seem to recall at the beginning of WW2 your aligned with Bulgaria and the Nazis. (only switching sides when it became apparent you would lose)
I just noticed you practice censorship on your channel (like a good little Nazi propagandist that doesn't believe in free speech). Hiding something?
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
Incidentally why does your government (and big fat liars like Risto) hide the fact you used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians?
"The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians. - US anthropologist Loring Danforth - currently listed on MHRMI as an expert!
And you are a Greek-hater that unfairly blames Greeks for historical fabrications of your own government. You very well know deep down yor used to (mostly) self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians. You don't want to face the truth. You Nazis just want to pretend to be "persecuted" to justify your own hate and lies.
Actually ancient Macedonians SELF-IDENTIFIED as Greeks at the ancient Olympics for centuries. (And they certainly were not Bulgarians that just renamed themselves "Macedonians")
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
".. we can now turn to the use-or misuse-of genetic findings in the battle of territorial claims. The Macedonians, the Sami of northern Scandinavia, and Palestinians are three groups that have seized upon deeply problematic interpretations of new genetic evidence to bolster claims to sovereignty.[..] Most of today’s Macedonians are in fact citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, carved out of the remains of Yugoslavia in 1991..."
"... They speak a Slavic language, part of a family of tongues brought to the Balkans by Slavic tribes in the sixth and seventh centuries, and first began to develop a unique national identity at the turn of the twentieth century. " - Diana Muir & Paul S. Appelbaum: The Gene Wars
Macedonkey diaspora organizations pay 20cents a post to unemployed people like this trash triplemkboy here , through adds and pr firms , to spread lies and hate against Greece in many diferent accounts posing s other people etc ,in the midle of economic crisis is good money and tempting for some .... but guess what you are exposed and people talk about what you do all over the world... the party is over for the rogue state of former yugoslav macedonija , they are profesional liers
greeks always in denial do use believe anything is true apart from your opinion that you have been taught by propaganda sources, obviously not stubborn ignorant race
not its not truth your constatation. Lets check first. These researces and studies are published and are pat of all major encyclopaedias in the world. This stdies are included in DNA studies in the leading and major universityies in the world....
THAT RESEARCH IS A HOAX AND WAS BANNED BY all known genitic researchers from all over the world..It is considered as pseudoscience..I believe you should rely on someone established in the field of genetics like cavalli sforza who mentions the exact opossite..Get a life..And go find you own history...Monkeydonia...ahahhahaha
DNA AND GENETICS DONT LIE!This is the only way to write history,to look at DNA and genetics.Unfortunatly struggling historians can easliy be bought to write history books and falsify HISTORY.This is the fact for the Greeks,they are so insecure about their country and history that they approach everything with hysteria instead of facutal argument and LOGIC.IF they continue to behave Uncivilized towards THE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE. Greek history will be exposed as the most falsified history in the world
@Rajkovska Taka e Rajkovskaaaa. 100% vo pravo.
nitroflesh 9 months ago
"Dropped genetics paper lacked scientific merit" (i.e. FYROM nationalists pushing lies)
nature(dot)com/nature/journal/v415/n6868/full/415115b.html
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
Just goes to show what liars FYROM nationalists are. The paper this video references was OFFICIALLY withdrawn from scientific journals years ago for being so terrible (using only a single marker). It was so bad the author accused of polical biaes by his own scientific peers (same author bizarrely claimed Jews are closely related to Palestinians and Japanese to western africans!)
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho Yes that is true. iGenea withdrew its findings due to severe protest from the Greek government and due to thousands and thousands of questions and statements on internet from greek people. But iGenea based in Switserland is not the only company who did this kind of research . Two more did the same research with the same results. So is everybody making the same mistake??? Macedonia to the Macedonians. Macedonia never greek. oh excuse me, geek.
nitroflesh 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
You are deluding yourself if you think they had a scientific leg to stand on. They withdrew their claims because they knew they were scientifically fraudulent. (why they could not produce the source of the DNA for peer review)
You make claims of others getting the same results... but do not provide sources. Talk is cheep.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho Is that what they teach you in your fascist country?? Just read the what "Rajkovska" wrote below, thats my reply to you.
nitroflesh 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
Funny that you former self-identifying ethnic Bulgarians of the former Yugoslavia constantly slander Greeks as "fascists". I seem to recall at the beginning of WW2 your aligned with Bulgaria and the Nazis. (only switching sides when it became apparent you would lose)
en(dot).wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Ivan_Mihailov#1934_-_1944
nationalpride(dot)files(dot)wordpress(dot)com/2009/12/fyrom_nazi.jpg
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
I just noticed you practice censorship on your channel (like a good little Nazi propagandist that doesn't believe in free speech). Hiding something?
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
Incidentally why does your government (and big fat liars like Risto) hide the fact you used to self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians?
"The political and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem not to have heard Misirkov's call for a separate Macedonian national identity; they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather than Macedonians. - US anthropologist Loring Danforth - currently listed on MHRMI as an expert!
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@GemistusPletho You're weird and stupid.
nitroflesh 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
And you are a Greek-hater that unfairly blames Greeks for historical fabrications of your own government. You very well know deep down yor used to (mostly) self-identify as ethnic Bulgarians. You don't want to face the truth. You Nazis just want to pretend to be "persecuted" to justify your own hate and lies.
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
Actually ancient Macedonians SELF-IDENTIFIED as Greeks at the ancient Olympics for centuries. (And they certainly were not Bulgarians that just renamed themselves "Macedonians")
Krste Misirkov: "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves."[...]'And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
".. we can now turn to the use-or misuse-of genetic findings in the battle of territorial claims. The Macedonians, the Sami of northern Scandinavia, and Palestinians are three groups that have seized upon deeply problematic interpretations of new genetic evidence to bolster claims to sovereignty.[..] Most of today’s Macedonians are in fact citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, carved out of the remains of Yugoslavia in 1991..."
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
@nitroflesh
"... They speak a Slavic language, part of a family of tongues brought to the Balkans by Slavic tribes in the sixth and seventh centuries, and first began to develop a unique national identity at the turn of the twentieth century. " - Diana Muir & Paul S. Appelbaum: The Gene Wars
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
i bet the person telling us all of this is Turkish, Albanian, or Bosnian or something!!! lol!!! ;)
chukwuemeka23456 1 year ago
haha Greeks are fucking Eguptian Jews.
nitroflesh 1 year ago
@nitroflesh
Ha ha. You are a fucking racist idiot.
"Dropped genetics paper lacked scientific merit" (i.e. FYROM nationalists pushing lies)
nature(dot)com/nature/journal/v415/n6868/full/415115b.html
GemistusPletho 9 months ago
deep down we re all africans!!!!!!
electrecuted 2 years ago
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Macedonkey diaspora organizations pay 20cents a post to unemployed people like this trash triplemkboy here , through adds and pr firms , to spread lies and hate against Greece in many diferent accounts posing s other people etc ,in the midle of economic crisis is good money and tempting for some .... but guess what you are exposed and people talk about what you do all over the world... the party is over for the rogue state of former yugoslav macedonija , they are profesional liers
noaudito 3 years ago
Ok we know about that years ago..
Say also about the other outcomes!! that Japanese have relation with African people and so on.. hahaha
It's a joke, full of lies...
Dorians were also Spartans, Corinthians, Megarians and Macedonians.. Wake up DIMPO
Check here that they say they are a devine race send by god, and that all white race started from them.. SEE IT!!!!!
the video's name is;
Fascist Official Video of the FYROMian Government, on State TV [Full version]
Search it in youtube
spiliosp 3 years ago
gypsies come to Greece the same year they come to ALL countries in Balkan...
why are U asking? are U trying to see when and how your family get there?
ellamou 3 years ago
greeks always in denial do use believe anything is true apart from your opinion that you have been taught by propaganda sources, obviously not stubborn ignorant race
chixhelpline 3 years ago
not its not truth your constatation. Lets check first. These researces and studies are published and are pat of all major encyclopaedias in the world. This stdies are included in DNA studies in the leading and major universityies in the world....
tripleMboy 3 years ago
THAT RESEARCH IS A HOAX AND WAS BANNED BY all known genitic researchers from all over the world..It is considered as pseudoscience..I believe you should rely on someone established in the field of genetics like cavalli sforza who mentions the exact opossite..Get a life..And go find you own history...Monkeydonia...ahahhahaha
thadigr 3 years ago
DNA AND GENETICS DONT LIE!This is the only way to write history,to look at DNA and genetics.Unfortunatly struggling historians can easliy be bought to write history books and falsify HISTORY.This is the fact for the Greeks,they are so insecure about their country and history that they approach everything with hysteria instead of facutal argument and LOGIC.IF they continue to behave Uncivilized towards THE MACEDONIAN PEOPLE. Greek history will be exposed as the most falsified history in the world
inyourface0206 3 years ago
so i guess part of the conclusion of all of this is that.......greeeks are somewhat genitically related to nothern sudanese and ethiopians!!!!!!!!
Intresting!!!!!
1397328 4 years ago
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Great Video here you can see the truth!
Long Live Macedonia!
MACED0NIA 4 years ago
m3talaxis, can you tell us when gipsies came in greece?? ;)
spiritxfly 4 years ago
Wake up, can u also tell us when Slavs came to the Balkans ? :)
m3talaxis 4 years ago 2
They came BACK to the Balkans. But they were not SLAVS they were Macedonians that had left.
APMUMBP 4 years ago
did they go on vacation? lol
greece is the place for that!!!!
ellamou 3 years ago