It took a false prophet to tell us this. I didn't get anything from this speech that would tell me it's a prophecy of the internet. Sounds like common sense to me.
Considering Telstar 2 TV satellite was launched in 1963 and first transatlantic phone call was made in 1915 this has to be acknowledged as a weak prophecy.
Home shopping, email etc via connected computers was predicted in 1967 !
Yeah, I'm sorry but if you are going to make the claim that a "prophet" foretold the Internet then the prophecy is going to have to contain more details. Using the actual word "Internet" within the prophecy would help too, or maybe "computer", etc... You get the idea. At least TRY to be honest.
Prophecy? Sounds more like common sense to me. It's called technology. Jules Verne described what is called a submarine in his novel. I suppose that makes him a prophet.
@jlc19702 Yeah, none of their so called prophets really prophecy, they just give common sense advice, using their lofty toned voices. I wonder if they have to teach the expensively suited, self-righteous and indulgent ceo's of Mormonism, how to talk in such religious tones. So as to sound holy and knowledgeable in their speech making, where nothing is really said. Little stories of charity, and simple advice.
According to a prominent, Mormon, FAIRblog contributor man can, indeed, intelligently, honestly and reasonably conclude from the evidence that “manifestations by the Holy Ghost” and other varieties of religious experience are NOT really of divine origin; that God is NOT as Mormons & Christianity believe him to be; and the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Book of Abraham are NOT of divine origin or literal history. And, of course, he's correct and they'd be correct
@Gl3nQuagmire maybe you have read them.... But did you actually pray about it with a "SINCERE heart, with REAL intent, having FAITH in Christ"? (Moroni 10:4-5) that might be what you didnt do. And also did you read the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants THOUROGHLY, PAGE BY PAGE?? Because many say they read them and didnt believe them because they just looked for ways to find them wrong and unholy.
@92sportygirl How about that they changed and have been proven to have been changed, by the Mormon "church," though Jo Smith-the liar, said everything he spewed was revelation. Point blank. Guess his followers who changed the text (PROVEN...I have SEEN the REVISIONS...hello! Library of Congress has them!) forgot their magic "peep stones" or "holy sunglasses" to look through, when editing the texts. Again. Do you REALLY believe this stuff or do you just like fairy tales? Please say no.
Mormonism, LDS Church, is not true church according to The New Testament of Bible. More than 2000 years ago, Jesus said about false-prophets. It is in the first three chapters of The New Testament. Mormon-LDS Church founder Joseph Smith retranslated the some parts of Bible which is against the God!
@MrDancermgl well maybe if you read the bible more closely you wouldn't have missed Ephesians chapter 4 verse 11-14.. and do you even know the history of the Bible at all? you know how many times it has be translated over and over? take into account that words in Greek can mean many things in Latin, English and so forth.. should look into that as well..
@xGoliathOnlinex Pleassssse do not be a narrow minded dink. This is a pissing contest on the windy side of a boat. Means nothing. Stop it...you are both probably adults so stop believing in fairy tales. Your PREMISE is wrong, got it? THINK...no magic, no "majik books" to debate about...all, ALL man-made. And that is fine. Just think like men and not children.
@PuddlesMcNiggley Im not narrow minded or at least trying not to be.. but i see the Universe as it is.. not a mistake or coincidence.. its for a reason. we are living for a reason. whether if you want to believe it or not.. thats your choice. i believe in free agency. ive read the books, i know with all my heart that they are true. emotion like love isnt magic, its real. my heart is filled with love when i read the book of mormon and if thats a 'bad' thing then so be it.
@xGoliathOnlinex Hey-look, if reading something makes you happy-do it. Sorry a book does that, but really, if it is your thing, read and be well. Just do not try to pretend this is the "truth" for us all. Really-leave the rest of us alone and do not try and prove angels came to New York gave gold plates and "peep stones" to Smith who then found New Jerusalem in Missouri, yada yada...enjoy your dream. Keep it your dream, ok? You seem nice. The rest of us do not need more majik.
@MrDancermgl so ... by that logic, are you going to throw away your English/French/German whatever language Bible you use? Or are you an expert in Ancient Greek and Hebrew?
@MrDancermgl more than 2000 years ago, you say? tell us more....i think youre on to something....enlighten we poor mentally vacuous mere sub-humans with your great wisdom.......NEXT, PLEASE...GENIUS
@keriscorp Learning what? What-to be ignorant? Frankly, I am an avid student of comparative religion. What is your excuse for your ignorant and condescending statement? Learning what? To forget the murders done by Brigham Young? The "Angels" sent to kill for the church? Cover ups? Theocracies attempted and built, in this country? The mafia like control over group members? Raping of girls, sanctified by the church on pain of eternal damnation? Meadow Mountain Massacre? Please, be specific.
@keriscorp DO NOt lighten up...tell me I am wrong about blood atonement. Etc. I will certainly give you proof from your own "prophets" to prove my words. I state nothing false. I state that is proven. Deny this and you are totally swallowed. "Learning?" -stop your patronizing, what are you, twelve? YOU learn to see history as documented and not believe in magic. Please. You are smarter that an child. yes?
@PuddlesMcNiggley good morning, puddles. so...may i ask what your object is in this conversation? if you wish to banter over debatable history that im already familiar with, i see little point. i used to be an atheist. i had rare experiences that gave me the knowledge i have. i dont trust or believe anyones word. i know what i know....a few things. i cant swear one way or the other on the topics you mentioned. and im 53, but there may be children smarter than me.
@keriscorp Your comment is swerving, pointless, poorly-constructed and poorly spelled. Even for 53. Hey-if believing in a fantasy makes you happy-because of a personal revelation YOU personally experienced, I am with you. Personal experience is good, and the only logical thing to cling to when talking of personal faith. If you try and foist your personal revelation on anyone else-back off. Keep your happy fantasy to yourself. My main objection with Mormonism is that the LDS church killed people.
@PuddlesMcNiggley puddles...you found a misspelled word? have i foisted my experiences on you? yet you call it fantasy? again, what is your point, sir?
@keriscorp I was clear. 1) Personal experience is valuable as proof only to the person who experienced it. Hey, if I saw a dog light his farts while doing long division and flying in the air, I might be convinced that dogs have hidden talents...but would not expect you to believe me. 2) Mormonism has killed people. 3) Bonus: Mormonisms founding tenants are absurd for those who do not believe in magic. To expect the general public to deny any of these points is bold in the extreme.
@PuddlesMcNiggley why would one expect that a flying fart burning mathematician dog is an unusual thing, when we see you here? youve trumped the poor milk sot pup by fathoms....good job, there, denegrating a helpless canine, you old bugger....did you get your jollies? still, mate...whats your point? you want me to deny Jesus, or are you just seeking gardeners for your filthy fruit? run an ad on craigslist...good luck, there....toodles....
@keriscorp Toodles? Sot? Why crickee...we be olde Eglishee wif no reale pointee!
Lord, I have dumbed down my points so a child could get them. If your beliefs do not register in light of argument, then get with it. I m sure you are smart and able, please do not denigrate the beliefs you profess by sad commentary.
I am actually bucking YOu up here, "matey"-even being "Englishy" Argh!
@PuddlesMcNiggley puds...im not out to argue with you...and im not english...im a yank...matey....i will say you take a stout offense...so...you want to lock horns on mormonism with me, eh? i never said i was a mormon, though, now did i? and im not...so...what, again, is your point, you rum soaked bored one eyed old buggerer of wee lasses and stray cats?....fire a querry on mormons....i'll knock yer socks...ive STUDIED it....youve soaked sewer talk wanker poof...
@PuddlesMcNiggley oh.....magic....Christ was called the MAGI....you know...when you make deaf people hear, and blind people see...lepers clean....lame walk...sick to well...um...dead back to life.....that sort of thing....kinda LOOKS like magic, now dont it...but, hey...if you wan to call it an amazingly lucky roll of the dice, go for it...funny, though, the MAN was standing there when it happened....tell me when i start lying, mate.....cheers....
Well, if you really want to believe in magic as told by (very wise parables meant metaphorically though to often taken literally) wandering bronze-age mid-eastern tribes, and then recomposed many, many times after the fact, to fit "prophecy" (proven by substantial scholars for years) have at it.
If I gave you a magic story of THOR, would you believe it? THAT religion was respected as well.
And the MAGI had nothing to do with "The Christ"-tho a fascinating tale.
@keriscorp I think it is more cogent to ask " what is yours?" I.E., What is your objective? You seem to have claim to Mormonism as truth (correct me if I am wrong-I apologize if I am), so the burden of truth is on the claimant.
@PuddlesMcNiggley when did i claim anything? i first said for people to lighten up on you...you were still learning, then you ask me to explain a variety of possible historical situations, and accuse me of foisting my beliefs/opinions on you...what are you on about, mate? ive not claimed anything, yet....are you out for a fight or something? if you really want to know what i believe, and/or why, do you think id wish to discuss such personals with a pugilist as yourself?
@keriscorp I think it is more cogent to ask " what is yours?" I.E., What is your objective? You seem to have claim to Mormonism as truth (correct me if I am wrong-I apologize if I am), so the burden of truth is on the claimant.
@keriscorp I think it is more cogent to ask " what is yours?" I.E., What is your objective? You seem to have claim to Mormonism as truth (correct me if I am wrong-I apologize if I am), so the burden of truth is on the claimant.
It's amazing the people here who appear to be "experts" in the LDS faith and yet they call it a cult. I've known for years that they would be harsh on all LDS members. It's mentioned in the Bible as well as the Book of Mormon.
Just keep in mind that you are also children of our Heavenly Father, and you too shall reap the rewards & judgments of how you live your life. Have a blessed day! :)
@MyFreedomChannel Oh please...grow up. Knowing facts, as stated FROM the cults themselves (here, the Mormons) isn't claiming beans but letting to light the stupidity they claim as truth. Get off your high and mighty. You don't know there is a Heavenly father and if you did, don't know his/her mind. Pish. Look, you seem nice...if your Heavenly Father is there for you, I doubt he lives on planet KOLOB, as the Mormons say and I doubt that if you take many wives, you'll be a God on your own planet.
@PuddlesMcNiggley First of all ... I am a woman - I don't "take wives!!" I'm married to one man and one man only! And as for "Meadow Mountain Massacre," that was started by a fringe group of LDS members who were eventually condemned & excommunicated by the LDS Church.
“Blessed are you when men hate you and revile you and say all manner of evil against you falsely for My name sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in Heaven.” Luke 6:22
@MyFreedomChannel Thank you for your candor. Personally, I do not care if an adult has many partners. Sanctioning and PRESSING relationships on others...as Jo Smith did t Brigham, BTW...is just wrong. To each his own. But making one person be with another "for their soul" is wrong-and is not fringe in church teaching. Now, Mormans LOVE to claim Mountain Meadows is "fringe" as well...but sorry-BRIGHAM YOUNG ORDERED THE KILLING. It is in no way fringe. Continued denial is continued shame.
@MyFreedomChannel Read your history You're as defensive as you are apparently ignorant of this massacre. Sorry to be blunt---but you are wrong. Slaughter is wrong, so I must be plain. YOUNG ordered this killing directly. Sorry, true. Scholars have written proof from his hand. Will gladly give you resources to respected scholars who prove this. Try to blame all on Lee. Even HE said that he was part of the plan from Brigham. I aint a Mormon-I don't care. Believe your Saints. Know you believe lies.
the LDS church is a cult. I've read the book of mormon, doctrine and covenants, and have heard some quotes by Joseph Smith himself. He is a heretic and the mormon church is a load of false doctrines which will only condemn its followers.
@Gl3nQuagmire If anyone is so childish as to believe the tripe of this obvious fraud...well, I just pray you keep your dementia to yourself. Read the many, scholarly, unbiased histories of Mormonism out there and you will see the pack of lies from Smith on to today, as the Mormons try and repackage themselves as mainstream "Christians." I don't think Jesus ever baptised the dead, by the way, nor thought God was once a man from planet KOLOB (I am serious...look up Mormon scripture). Duh.
@13SuperKings You are correct. The military used what they call the "InTRAnet," which is a very similar program to the Internet. And I think they still do use it after all these years. As for doctors, maybe some used the InTranet, but not sure if all of them did.
My rock is Jesus Christ. The true and biblical one, unlike you. without parts nor passions. No matter what anyone believes. The wall on Palenque hieroglyphics read "And it came to pass."
coincidence? LOL
you got nothing.
Meso america is exactly where jesus christ taught from.
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Mormonism is a gangster cult, founded in stupidity by a proven charlatan and liar, for the gullible, based on nothing factual, and grew threw stupidity, racism and isolation. There were no magic books of gold buried in the hill, no lost tribes of Israel spawning the indians-are you morons? But there were and are people protecting this idiocy. ""Avenging Angels, "...nice legacy of Mountain Meadows, where Mormons killed innocent people and blamed it on innocent Paute Indians. This is so wrong-
@i3yucougar23 Takes no anger, nor any type of "hobby," to comment on the obvious.
It does amaze me that otherwise normal adults have the ability to think like retarded children and believe the Mormon fairy tale. It is a complete lie and is harmful.
@PuddlesMcNiggley it amazes me that "otherwise normal adults" spend their time on YouTube tearing down other peoples faith. Let people believe what they want and quit crying about it. Oh and i love the "BYU Sucks" on my wall. I removed it, but that's very "adult" of you.
@i3yucougar23 Hey BYU ROCKS! Well, the sports teams are admirable, and the choir, no pun intended, rocks.
If other people's faiths are inherently condescending, and they put it out there for comment, as a conversionary cult-type gig-then all is open for comment. Done.
@i3yucougar23 If one is called angry for not accepting...oh, I don't know...the Mormon doctrine of blood atonement, which was sanctified murder on behalf of this "church," and proven many, many times, by the way...then that might be a reason to have ire.
@PuddlesMcNiggley Hey Puddles, are you a dog? What kind of name is that? You are such a COWARD. Why don't you disclose your religion (or lack thereof) so we can mock and ridicule beliefs.
Oh, but like your name, you like to crawl in the mud. Puddles, who are your parents, stupid hippies who didn't like the name "Moonbeam?" Why don't you crawl back into your puddle.
@mdleavitt2112 You, are a total moron. Never thought I would find one-but you came crawling up. Happy day. My name is Peter Demetrius McNiggley...I am Irish. When a child, it was contracted to "PD", hence Puddles. Got it? Have a further problem with me? Have at it. I will beat you down intellectually like your dog of a father should have done when you where a cur-got it? Or should I say it slowly for the dim? Point is, believe in your majik, just don't pretend it is real for the rest-ok?
14 Now I say unto you that ye must repent, and be born again; for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore come and be baptized unto repentance, that ye may be washed from your sins, that ye may have faith on the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, who is mighty to save and to cleanse from all unrighteousness.
We will be able to communicate according to the needs and circumstances of the time.....err this is not a falsifiable statement. Also since Utah is ranked #1 state for pornography according to google stats I would say its more of a hindrance then blessing to the LDS congregation....
Thank you so much for this video. I have come closer to the lord by technology by being able to listen to our church leaders whenever I want on my phone or computer. When this was spoken they couldn't even imagine the advances we have today. This is the lords work no doubt.
Absolutly true true true!! I listen to the prophets on my phone all the time and it helps a lot. The devil is all over the media but so is god. We just have to choose what we watch. Prophecy 100% fulfilled.
This was not inspiration at all. It was pure logic. Satellite broadcasts were already happening which mad this "prophecy" fulfilled even as he spoke. It also should be pointed out that Hinckley was a trained journalist and broadcaster so he had more intimate interest in such things than his predecessors and associates. He was simply stating the inevitable. Hardly prophetic.
I had a atari 2800 back in 81. Even after Internet made it to home use the communication sure was NOT intimate. Even after cable and dsl came we would not have IM right away. This was a inspired speech.
internet prophecy how were is the internet mentioned in this speech its being really vague you don't have to be a einstein to know technology evolves like nature dose
Technology only made it easier for the LDS to spread their lies and increase the reach of their brainwashing methods. The more the LDS reaches out, the more people see the real church, one based on lies and halth truths, an organization that is struggling to maintain its numbers at all costs as members realise that they have been lied to and are escaping the slavery in anyway they can. You do not need LDS to live a meaningful life, one that will benefit everyone around you
Praise God for the internet! More people around the world are learning the truth about Joseph Smith and leaving the church in record breaking numbers and turning to Jesus Christ!!
i know that he was a prophet of god. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true. Read and pray about the Book of Mormon!!! Its true I know it is, the spirit of the lord has testified of that to me!!! You can get the same answer!!!! I know that the church is true and that we are lead prophets and apostles. This church is will continue to grow and fill the earth.
@startrekmaniac I did exactly that. i read the book of mormon, prayed about it, and i got nothing except a reminder of where i was( the Catholic Church) and how it was and is Christ's one, true church.
@chrstilen5 it was easy to predict that technology would allow for better ways of communication, and that's all he said really, he didn't even say that computers were gonna be involved or that it would be a worldwide phenomina. Becides i'd like to see his whole speech in context not just a 59 second fragment
@chrstilen5 he made a prediction that technology would allow us to communicate over large distances...you have to agree that isn't a very hard prediction to make coz technology was heading that way. it's just too vague for me. Has he made any other prophecies? I'm willing to hear him out
@schpoogie Donk know about this guy. But the curch did for example. Tel people about smoke, eating and so on, when doctors told people. thatit was good for you.
@chrstilen5 But scientists agree that alcohol and tea are actually quite healthy, 2 glasses of red wine a day is even recomended by many. Even coffee, while it has bad qualities about it, it also prevents liver disease, parkinsons disease, cancer and type 2 diabetes
@schpoogie Yes red wine can be good... but you get the same efect, by eating baries. You dont have to make it into wine to get the efect. But by makeing it into wine befor eating it. You will get bad efects.
Cofe is a trade of. Tea is someting members drink, so yeah it is good and tast good to ^_^. But not all of the kinds are good.
@schpoogie But the best way to live a long and good life. Is to not take any of the bad stuff, like cofe for example. Best is to eat and drink good stuff and to work out.
The boddy will last longer if you eat only good stuff. And you're boddy will be able to deal with things like disease better, like you mentioned. A good body is a good protection agenst bad stuff ^_^
Alcohol may have good stuff... it is good for cleaning wonds for example. But. It is not good for the mind. It allso gives bad efects for the body and it makes you an adict. Smoking is good for not eating to much... but smaking in itself, is bad ^_^ That's why we got the revelation, to not take that kind of stuff.
Everyting is good for someting... but noting is good, if you do it the wrong way ;D
Most research on resveratrol has been done on animals, not people. Research in mice given resveratrol suggests that the antioxidant might also help protect them from obesity and diabetes, both of which are strong risk factors for heart disease. However, those findings were reported only in mice, not in people. In addition, to get the same dose of resveratrol used in the mice studies, a person would have to drink over 60 lt. of red wine every day
There, the gilded, fiberglass icon of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will be bolted into place, capping a massive, granite-clad temple whose construction started Saturday with a groundbreaking ceremony.
Work is to begin in earnest next spring and finish in 2014.
God didnt help your Mom cuz you were a good boy or because you were part of the so called "only true church" He loves everyone and blesses everyone. I hope this helps you to embrace other people as equal and deserving of eternal life.
To me this is a prophecy about the establishment of the Internet. Prophecy fulfilled yet again by LDS prophets. No matter how much opposition there is, God always provides a way for us to be individually and collectively strengthened.
The internet is bringing a slow death 2 the Mormon church. They do an unbelievable job, brainwashing their members, but Mormonism is a lie, & the internet makes exposing the lies easier. Some Mormons will want 2 believe the lie badly enough that the truth will not interfere with their desire 4 lies 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Joseph Smith was a fraud, he identified the egyptian godesses Isis & Maat as men, look at figures 2 & 4 on page 41 of the "Pearl of Great Price". Look the godesses up anywhere.
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I'm a convert to the LDS church since 1981--I've been a member for 30 years. All this Internet stuff against Mormons drives me nuts. I read most of this stuff 30 years ago when I was investigating the church!! It was all I could find back then, in Christian book stores of all places. I knew it couldn't be right. Luckily I took the time to learn the truth. I finally did learn the answers. I can't imagine being a member of any other church. We have the fulness of the gospel.
@cindybin2001 Why do U think Joseph Smith identified the egyptian godesses Isis & Maat as men? Look at figures 2 & 4 on page 41 of your Pearl of Great Price, do they look feminine 2 U? Have U ever learned anything about the egyptian gods Isis & Maat? Why did Joseph identify figure 1 as Abraham, when every single egyptian scholar knows that figure 1 is the egyptian god Osiris? I fear 4 Mormons, when i read 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Truth does not matter if it conflicts with lies we want 2 believe.
@cindybin2001 You know why this internet stuff bothers you, because a lot of it's true. I agree alot's bs, I grew up mormon and I remember hearing some wild things about my church that I knew were false. Then I got older and looked for myself, and I was shocked by what I found in the Journal of Discourses and many other church approved sources. The main thing was how the church admits that Joseph Smith married other mens wives while they were on a mis, and that the 1st vision has 3 diff versions
@rebelnomo Wrong! the First Vision has nine different versions. Google it. Prophecy? It just means they are part of the New World Order and privy to advances in technology before they are introduced to society at large.
I look back now, having seen the change that came to my mother as they offered me a choice of a mission or a college education, and I chose the greatest education a young man or woman could obtain by serving a mission. I saw the blessings that flowed to my parents.
I saw my mother overcome an addiction that held her captive for so many years. Yet, somehow the blessings of a son's missionary service entered her life, and when her own mortal strength wavered, an unseen hand gave support and encouragement to overcome. . .
If this is a prophecy about the internet, I must have missed it. Sounds like just a general chat about improving technology. Gordon B Hinckley was a charming man, but no prophet of God
since Mormon doctrine states that we must follow the commandments of Jesus Christ to get to heaven. I am guessing that you think you are BETTER than Jesus Christ and do NOT need to follow His commandments to get to heaven. Just because YOU lie, does NOT mean Jesus Christ did.
Three teams, composed of Chico Foot Ball Club Senior, Chico Foot Ball Club Masters, and the Mormon Foot Ball Club participated the game. The inmates numbering about 1000 witnessed and enjoyed the game, said Zamboanga City Jail Operations Chief, ...
Three teams, composed of Chico Foot Ball Club Senior, Chico Foot Ball Club Masters, and the Mormon Foot Ball Club participated the game. The inmates numbering about 1000 witnessed and enjoyed the game, said Zamboanga City Jail Operations Chief, ...
More than 300 local men, women and children from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will participate in the effort, called Mormon Helping Hands, in which volunteers will clean up parks and other public places. In Lodi, volunteers will help ...
Even in the mid 80's to early 90's the internet was not mainstream, listen to his words - "intimate and personal way" - dial up speeds and waiting 10 minutes for a page to load - being cut off by every phone call is not personal or intimate - it was not even productive. When DSL became mainstream things really took off and that was well after 1981 - canonized or not - this was inspired.
In the beginning was the Internet. And the Internet begat USENET. And USENET begat net.religion -- which was the first Internet forum for the discussion of religion.
In 1984 I was able to first access the Internet and witnessed an intriguing discussion of "The Book of Moses" on net.religion.
It was where Mormon missionary John Groberg almost died of starvation after surviving a hurricane. Ten years before Elder Groberg served in Niuatoputapu (Knee-you-ah doh-poo dah-poo), Sione and Salote Wolfgramm were sent there as a young couple
Some, of the many, Mormon false prophesies: History of the Church, Vol. 2, page 182 Doctrine & Covenants 114:1 History of the Church, Vol. 5, page 394 Millennial Star, Vol. 22, p. 455. See also History of the Church (HC), vol. 6, p. 116 Doctrine & Covenants 111 History of the Church, Vol. 1, pp. 315-316 Doctrine & Covenants Section 84 Doctrine & Covenants Section 87 Did the Mormon god not know, or lie? Deuteronomy chapters 13 & 18 is a test of a prophet...
Not only that, but poor Fijians began to wish for consumer goods that few could afford. Researchers said television was a storm that arrived in their lives. Family structures eroded, and within less than two decades, as many as one in four young women reported having suicidal thoughts.
So great is the influence of television that a new study from this Harvard team suggests that young women in Fiji become familiar with disordered eating through their friends when their friends have television but they don't.
@amaxamon Technically speaking you could say the internet was in motion and being created in the late 70s, early 80s but outside of military and academia no one knew about it or had any way of using it to communicate the way President Hinckley described. It wasn't till the late 80s and early 90s that the general public began using the internet as we know it. This speech is not considered a prophesy by the church and has not been canonized as such.
“We will honor Bill and Donna by putting down the weapons of warfare – the weapons of our words – the words we speak and the words we write,” Lee said. “Speaking badly about one another will only hurt our community more. Let’s change the atmosphere.”
Do we likewise remember to pray earnestly and consistently for that which we should most desire, even the Holy Ghost? Or do we become distracted by the cares of the world and the routine of daily living and take for granted or even neglect this most valuable of all gifts? Receiving the Holy Ghost starts with our sincere and constant desire for His companionship in our lives.
“And the twelve did teach the multitude; and behold, they did cause that the multitude should kneel down upon the face of the earth, and should pray unto the Father in the name of Jesus. …
“And they did pray for that which they most desired; and they desired that the Holy Ghost should be given unto them” (3 Nephi 19:6, 9).
We first should desire, yearn for, and seek the companionship of the Holy Ghost. You and I can learn a great lesson about righteous desires from the faithful disciples of the Master described in the Book of Mormon:
The Truth of the Gospel was not accepted readily in early biblical times, nor was it accepted in the New Testament. Think about it, Christ himself was not accepted as the True Savior, He was rejected, Why? Because these men and women were not intellectual enough to understand. No. They never opened themselves up spiritually in order to accept that which was Truth, It is not different today, Truth will allude those who don't truly seek it. They cannot see that which is before their own eyes.
The Holy Ghost does not become operative in our lives merely because hands are placed upon our heads and those four important words are spoken. As we receive this ordinance, each of us accepts a sacred and ongoing responsibility to desire, to seek, to work, and to so live that we indeed “receive the Holy Ghost” and its attendant spiritual gifts.
@EastofForever “For what doth it profit a man if a gift is bestowed upon him, and he receive not the gift? Behold, he rejoices not in that which is given unto him, neither rejoices in him who is the giver of the gift” (D&C 88:33).
@omiolo Dilation and Curretage? What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China and this silly old fool?
Wait...Jesus warned me about people like you--from the REAL Bible and his REAL words: "Don't throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."
THE BIBLE (ever heard of it?) Matthew 7:6.
You're the only one posting on this silly page, sparky....
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@omiolo Truth bounces off your noggin like water off a ducks back. You can't smell your own breath and you don't know you're brainwashed. Cognitive dissonance rules your world. I just asked my wife of 39 years if she had been indoctrinated to believe she was Christian or ANY other religion...she said the Mormon church was special unto itself, "like Islam". Today, she's completely free from the brainwashing of her youth. hooray.......
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It took a false prophet to tell us this. I didn't get anything from this speech that would tell me it's a prophecy of the internet. Sounds like common sense to me.
jlc19702 19 hours ago
Considering Telstar 2 TV satellite was launched in 1963 and first transatlantic phone call was made in 1915 this has to be acknowledged as a weak prophecy.
Home shopping, email etc via connected computers was predicted in 1967 !
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atdd22 3 days ago
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mRwhite298 4 days ago
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mormoncoffee 1 week ago
Yeah, I'm sorry but if you are going to make the claim that a "prophet" foretold the Internet then the prophecy is going to have to contain more details. Using the actual word "Internet" within the prophecy would help too, or maybe "computer", etc... You get the idea. At least TRY to be honest.
whanethewhip 2 weeks ago
Prophecy? Sounds more like common sense to me. It's called technology. Jules Verne described what is called a submarine in his novel. I suppose that makes him a prophet.
jlc19702 1 month ago
@jlc19702 Yeah, none of their so called prophets really prophecy, they just give common sense advice, using their lofty toned voices. I wonder if they have to teach the expensively suited, self-righteous and indulgent ceo's of Mormonism, how to talk in such religious tones. So as to sound holy and knowledgeable in their speech making, where nothing is really said. Little stories of charity, and simple advice.
manderbos 3 weeks ago
@jlc19702 yes......it did make him a prophet.....good call....2 thumbs up....now......
be careful who you slander, young blood.....
keriscorp 1 week ago
@keriscorp But it's ok. God says I can slander a false prophet...old blood....
jlc19702 1 week ago
@jlc19702 i was talking about jules verne. so when did God tell you that?
keriscorp 6 days ago
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According to a prominent, Mormon, FAIRblog contributor man can, indeed, intelligently, honestly and reasonably conclude from the evidence that “manifestations by the Holy Ghost” and other varieties of religious experience are NOT really of divine origin; that God is NOT as Mormons & Christianity believe him to be; and the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Book of Abraham are NOT of divine origin or literal history. And, of course, he's correct and they'd be correct
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Shelama 1 month ago
It amazes me that NOBODY denies BLOOD ATONEMENT as being MORMON. Among many of the other FACTS I have said on this page.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@Gl3nQuagmire maybe you have read them.... But did you actually pray about it with a "SINCERE heart, with REAL intent, having FAITH in Christ"? (Moroni 10:4-5) that might be what you didnt do. And also did you read the Book of Mormon and Doctrine and Covenants THOUROGHLY, PAGE BY PAGE?? Because many say they read them and didnt believe them because they just looked for ways to find them wrong and unholy.
92sportygirl 1 month ago
@92sportygirl How about that they changed and have been proven to have been changed, by the Mormon "church," though Jo Smith-the liar, said everything he spewed was revelation. Point blank. Guess his followers who changed the text (PROVEN...I have SEEN the REVISIONS...hello! Library of Congress has them!) forgot their magic "peep stones" or "holy sunglasses" to look through, when editing the texts. Again. Do you REALLY believe this stuff or do you just like fairy tales? Please say no.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@92sportygirl Talk to the families the Mormons killed.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
Mormonism, LDS Church, is not true church according to The New Testament of Bible. More than 2000 years ago, Jesus said about false-prophets. It is in the first three chapters of The New Testament. Mormon-LDS Church founder Joseph Smith retranslated the some parts of Bible which is against the God!
MrDancermgl 1 month ago
@MrDancermgl well maybe if you read the bible more closely you wouldn't have missed Ephesians chapter 4 verse 11-14.. and do you even know the history of the Bible at all? you know how many times it has be translated over and over? take into account that words in Greek can mean many things in Latin, English and so forth.. should look into that as well..
xGoliathOnlinex 1 month ago
@xGoliathOnlinex Pleassssse do not be a narrow minded dink. This is a pissing contest on the windy side of a boat. Means nothing. Stop it...you are both probably adults so stop believing in fairy tales. Your PREMISE is wrong, got it? THINK...no magic, no "majik books" to debate about...all, ALL man-made. And that is fine. Just think like men and not children.
Got it?
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 weeks ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley Im not narrow minded or at least trying not to be.. but i see the Universe as it is.. not a mistake or coincidence.. its for a reason. we are living for a reason. whether if you want to believe it or not.. thats your choice. i believe in free agency. ive read the books, i know with all my heart that they are true. emotion like love isnt magic, its real. my heart is filled with love when i read the book of mormon and if thats a 'bad' thing then so be it.
xGoliathOnlinex 2 weeks ago
@xGoliathOnlinex Hey-look, if reading something makes you happy-do it. Sorry a book does that, but really, if it is your thing, read and be well. Just do not try to pretend this is the "truth" for us all. Really-leave the rest of us alone and do not try and prove angels came to New York gave gold plates and "peep stones" to Smith who then found New Jerusalem in Missouri, yada yada...enjoy your dream. Keep it your dream, ok? You seem nice. The rest of us do not need more majik.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
@xGoliathOnlinex Lord, you missed not the boat, but the ocean in toto...think bigger, dude...
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
@MrDancermgl so ... by that logic, are you going to throw away your English/French/German whatever language Bible you use? Or are you an expert in Ancient Greek and Hebrew?
Museite 1 month ago
@MrDancermgl more than 2000 years ago, you say? tell us more....i think youre on to something....enlighten we poor mentally vacuous mere sub-humans with your great wisdom.......NEXT, PLEASE...GENIUS
keriscorp 1 week ago
you guys lighten up on puddles....he/shes learning....
keriscorp 1 month ago
@keriscorp Learning what? What-to be ignorant? Frankly, I am an avid student of comparative religion. What is your excuse for your ignorant and condescending statement? Learning what? To forget the murders done by Brigham Young? The "Angels" sent to kill for the church? Cover ups? Theocracies attempted and built, in this country? The mafia like control over group members? Raping of girls, sanctified by the church on pain of eternal damnation? Meadow Mountain Massacre? Please, be specific.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@keriscorp DO NOt lighten up...tell me I am wrong about blood atonement. Etc. I will certainly give you proof from your own "prophets" to prove my words. I state nothing false. I state that is proven. Deny this and you are totally swallowed. "Learning?" -stop your patronizing, what are you, twelve? YOU learn to see history as documented and not believe in magic. Please. You are smarter that an child. yes?
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley good morning, puddles. so...may i ask what your object is in this conversation? if you wish to banter over debatable history that im already familiar with, i see little point. i used to be an atheist. i had rare experiences that gave me the knowledge i have. i dont trust or believe anyones word. i know what i know....a few things. i cant swear one way or the other on the topics you mentioned. and im 53, but there may be children smarter than me.
keriscorp 1 week ago
@keriscorp Your comment is swerving, pointless, poorly-constructed and poorly spelled. Even for 53. Hey-if believing in a fantasy makes you happy-because of a personal revelation YOU personally experienced, I am with you. Personal experience is good, and the only logical thing to cling to when talking of personal faith. If you try and foist your personal revelation on anyone else-back off. Keep your happy fantasy to yourself. My main objection with Mormonism is that the LDS church killed people.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley puddles...you found a misspelled word? have i foisted my experiences on you? yet you call it fantasy? again, what is your point, sir?
keriscorp 1 week ago
@keriscorp I was clear. 1) Personal experience is valuable as proof only to the person who experienced it. Hey, if I saw a dog light his farts while doing long division and flying in the air, I might be convinced that dogs have hidden talents...but would not expect you to believe me. 2) Mormonism has killed people. 3) Bonus: Mormonisms founding tenants are absurd for those who do not believe in magic. To expect the general public to deny any of these points is bold in the extreme.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley why would one expect that a flying fart burning mathematician dog is an unusual thing, when we see you here? youve trumped the poor milk sot pup by fathoms....good job, there, denegrating a helpless canine, you old bugger....did you get your jollies? still, mate...whats your point? you want me to deny Jesus, or are you just seeking gardeners for your filthy fruit? run an ad on craigslist...good luck, there....toodles....
keriscorp 1 week ago
@keriscorp Toodles? Sot? Why crickee...we be olde Eglishee wif no reale pointee!
Lord, I have dumbed down my points so a child could get them. If your beliefs do not register in light of argument, then get with it. I m sure you are smart and able, please do not denigrate the beliefs you profess by sad commentary.
I am actually bucking YOu up here, "matey"-even being "Englishy" Argh!
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 day ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley puds...im not out to argue with you...and im not english...im a yank...matey....i will say you take a stout offense...so...you want to lock horns on mormonism with me, eh? i never said i was a mormon, though, now did i? and im not...so...what, again, is your point, you rum soaked bored one eyed old buggerer of wee lasses and stray cats?....fire a querry on mormons....i'll knock yer socks...ive STUDIED it....youve soaked sewer talk wanker poof...
keriscorp 1 day ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley oh.....magic....Christ was called the MAGI....you know...when you make deaf people hear, and blind people see...lepers clean....lame walk...sick to well...um...dead back to life.....that sort of thing....kinda LOOKS like magic, now dont it...but, hey...if you wan to call it an amazingly lucky roll of the dice, go for it...funny, though, the MAN was standing there when it happened....tell me when i start lying, mate.....cheers....
keriscorp 1 week ago
@keriscorp Uhm...you just lied.
Well, if you really want to believe in magic as told by (very wise parables meant metaphorically though to often taken literally) wandering bronze-age mid-eastern tribes, and then recomposed many, many times after the fact, to fit "prophecy" (proven by substantial scholars for years) have at it.
If I gave you a magic story of THOR, would you believe it? THAT religion was respected as well.
And the MAGI had nothing to do with "The Christ"-tho a fascinating tale.
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 days ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley thank you for your opinion. what is your objective?
keriscorp 2 days ago
@keriscorp I think it is more cogent to ask " what is yours?" I.E., What is your objective? You seem to have claim to Mormonism as truth (correct me if I am wrong-I apologize if I am), so the burden of truth is on the claimant.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 day ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley when did i claim anything? i first said for people to lighten up on you...you were still learning, then you ask me to explain a variety of possible historical situations, and accuse me of foisting my beliefs/opinions on you...what are you on about, mate? ive not claimed anything, yet....are you out for a fight or something? if you really want to know what i believe, and/or why, do you think id wish to discuss such personals with a pugilist as yourself?
keriscorp 1 day ago
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@keriscorp I think it is more cogent to ask " what is yours?" I.E., What is your objective? You seem to have claim to Mormonism as truth (correct me if I am wrong-I apologize if I am), so the burden of truth is on the claimant.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 day ago
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@keriscorp I think it is more cogent to ask " what is yours?" I.E., What is your objective? You seem to have claim to Mormonism as truth (correct me if I am wrong-I apologize if I am), so the burden of truth is on the claimant.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 day ago
It's amazing the people here who appear to be "experts" in the LDS faith and yet they call it a cult. I've known for years that they would be harsh on all LDS members. It's mentioned in the Bible as well as the Book of Mormon.
Just keep in mind that you are also children of our Heavenly Father, and you too shall reap the rewards & judgments of how you live your life. Have a blessed day! :)
MyFreedomChannel 1 month ago 2
@MyFreedomChannel Oh please...grow up. Knowing facts, as stated FROM the cults themselves (here, the Mormons) isn't claiming beans but letting to light the stupidity they claim as truth. Get off your high and mighty. You don't know there is a Heavenly father and if you did, don't know his/her mind. Pish. Look, you seem nice...if your Heavenly Father is there for you, I doubt he lives on planet KOLOB, as the Mormons say and I doubt that if you take many wives, you'll be a God on your own planet.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley First of all ... I am a woman - I don't "take wives!!" I'm married to one man and one man only! And as for "Meadow Mountain Massacre," that was started by a fringe group of LDS members who were eventually condemned & excommunicated by the LDS Church.
“Blessed are you when men hate you and revile you and say all manner of evil against you falsely for My name sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in Heaven.” Luke 6:22
MyFreedomChannel 1 month ago
@MyFreedomChannel Thank you for your candor. Personally, I do not care if an adult has many partners. Sanctioning and PRESSING relationships on others...as Jo Smith did t Brigham, BTW...is just wrong. To each his own. But making one person be with another "for their soul" is wrong-and is not fringe in church teaching. Now, Mormans LOVE to claim Mountain Meadows is "fringe" as well...but sorry-BRIGHAM YOUNG ORDERED THE KILLING. It is in no way fringe. Continued denial is continued shame.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@MyFreedomChannel Read your history You're as defensive as you are apparently ignorant of this massacre. Sorry to be blunt---but you are wrong. Slaughter is wrong, so I must be plain. YOUNG ordered this killing directly. Sorry, true. Scholars have written proof from his hand. Will gladly give you resources to respected scholars who prove this. Try to blame all on Lee. Even HE said that he was part of the plan from Brigham. I aint a Mormon-I don't care. Believe your Saints. Know you believe lies.
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 weeks ago
@MyFreedomChannel Dumb non-reply.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 week ago
@MyFreedomChannel YARR! Warrior for the faith! How about BLOOD ATONEMENT?
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 days ago
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the LDS church is a cult. I've read the book of mormon, doctrine and covenants, and have heard some quotes by Joseph Smith himself. He is a heretic and the mormon church is a load of false doctrines which will only condemn its followers.
Gl3nQuagmire 1 month ago
@Gl3nQuagmire no you havn't.
bearmanguy 1 month ago
@Gl3nQuagmire If anyone is so childish as to believe the tripe of this obvious fraud...well, I just pray you keep your dementia to yourself. Read the many, scholarly, unbiased histories of Mormonism out there and you will see the pack of lies from Smith on to today, as the Mormons try and repackage themselves as mainstream "Christians." I don't think Jesus ever baptised the dead, by the way, nor thought God was once a man from planet KOLOB (I am serious...look up Mormon scripture). Duh.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
The internet was around in 1981 for doctors and milatary.
13SuperKings 2 months ago
@13SuperKings You are correct. The military used what they call the "InTRAnet," which is a very similar program to the Internet. And I think they still do use it after all these years. As for doctors, maybe some used the InTranet, but not sure if all of them did.
Thanks for the memories. :)
MyFreedomChannel 1 month ago
@13SuperKings It was even there for the military, too.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
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My rock is Jesus Christ. The true and biblical one, unlike you. without parts nor passions. No matter what anyone believes. The wall on Palenque hieroglyphics read "And it came to pass."
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you got nothing.
Meso america is exactly where jesus christ taught from.
LDS4Life71 2 months ago
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bortelliM 2 months ago
Mormonism is a gangster cult, founded in stupidity by a proven charlatan and liar, for the gullible, based on nothing factual, and grew threw stupidity, racism and isolation. There were no magic books of gold buried in the hill, no lost tribes of Israel spawning the indians-are you morons? But there were and are people protecting this idiocy. ""Avenging Angels, "...nice legacy of Mountain Meadows, where Mormons killed innocent people and blamed it on innocent Paute Indians. This is so wrong-
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 months ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley dang you have a lot of anger. Go find a new hobby lol
i3yucougar23 2 months ago
@i3yucougar23 He may be angry, but he's not wrong.
I know Mormons hate when people tell the truth about the cult, but it's better for prospective members to realize what they are getting into.
TheSnoopy1750 2 months ago
@i3yucougar23 Takes no anger, nor any type of "hobby," to comment on the obvious.
It does amaze me that otherwise normal adults have the ability to think like retarded children and believe the Mormon fairy tale. It is a complete lie and is harmful.
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 months ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley it amazes me that "otherwise normal adults" spend their time on YouTube tearing down other peoples faith. Let people believe what they want and quit crying about it. Oh and i love the "BYU Sucks" on my wall. I removed it, but that's very "adult" of you.
i3yucougar23 2 months ago
@i3yucougar23 Hey BYU ROCKS! Well, the sports teams are admirable, and the choir, no pun intended, rocks.
If other people's faiths are inherently condescending, and they put it out there for comment, as a conversionary cult-type gig-then all is open for comment. Done.
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 months ago
@i3yucougar23 If one is called angry for not accepting...oh, I don't know...the Mormon doctrine of blood atonement, which was sanctified murder on behalf of this "church," and proven many, many times, by the way...then that might be a reason to have ire.
PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@PuddlesMcNiggley Hey Puddles, are you a dog? What kind of name is that? You are such a COWARD. Why don't you disclose your religion (or lack thereof) so we can mock and ridicule beliefs.
Oh, but like your name, you like to crawl in the mud. Puddles, who are your parents, stupid hippies who didn't like the name "Moonbeam?" Why don't you crawl back into your puddle.
mdleavitt2112 1 month ago
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PuddlesMcNiggley 1 month ago
@mdleavitt2112 You, are a total moron. Never thought I would find one-but you came crawling up. Happy day. My name is Peter Demetrius McNiggley...I am Irish. When a child, it was contracted to "PD", hence Puddles. Got it? Have a further problem with me? Have at it. I will beat you down intellectually like your dog of a father should have done when you where a cur-got it? Or should I say it slowly for the dim? Point is, believe in your majik, just don't pretend it is real for the rest-ok?
PuddlesMcNiggley 2 weeks ago
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Alma 7:14
14 Now I say unto you that ye must repent, and be born again; for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore come and be baptized unto repentance, that ye may be washed from your sins, that ye may have faith on the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, who is mighty to save and to cleanse from all unrighteousness.
LDS4Life71 2 months ago
We will be able to communicate according to the needs and circumstances of the time.....err this is not a falsifiable statement. Also since Utah is ranked #1 state for pornography according to google stats I would say its more of a hindrance then blessing to the LDS congregation....
ssuperbill2 2 months ago
intimate & personal?
what was he referring to, D'oh?
amarkanders777 2 months ago
Thank you so much for this video. I have come closer to the lord by technology by being able to listen to our church leaders whenever I want on my phone or computer. When this was spoken they couldn't even imagine the advances we have today. This is the lords work no doubt.
jawjww 2 months ago
Absolutly true true true!! I listen to the prophets on my phone all the time and it helps a lot. The devil is all over the media but so is god. We just have to choose what we watch. Prophecy 100% fulfilled.
jawjww 2 months ago
The internet is the least "Intimate & Personal" way to communicate that is possible.
Quite to the contrary, it's the anonymous nature of internet communications that make it such a tragic medium for transferring thoughts and feelings.
What Mr. Hinckley said would happen in the future was already happening and it was available in a better format than what the internet has become.
This is not "Prophecy" it simply awareness of trends.
Mr. Hinckley's "Prophecy" came from reading the Newspaper.
hammerogod 3 months ago
I totally agree with you simpleutahboi, these so called profits are so vague
scottstew123 3 months ago
This was not inspiration at all. It was pure logic. Satellite broadcasts were already happening which mad this "prophecy" fulfilled even as he spoke. It also should be pointed out that Hinckley was a trained journalist and broadcaster so he had more intimate interest in such things than his predecessors and associates. He was simply stating the inevitable. Hardly prophetic.
simpleutahboi 3 months ago
I had a atari 2800 back in 81. Even after Internet made it to home use the communication sure was NOT intimate. Even after cable and dsl came we would not have IM right away. This was a inspired speech.
Dalessiokiller 3 months ago
internet prophecy how were is the internet mentioned in this speech its being really vague you don't have to be a einstein to know technology evolves like nature dose
scottstew123 3 months ago
Technology only made it easier for the LDS to spread their lies and increase the reach of their brainwashing methods. The more the LDS reaches out, the more people see the real church, one based on lies and halth truths, an organization that is struggling to maintain its numbers at all costs as members realise that they have been lied to and are escaping the slavery in anyway they can. You do not need LDS to live a meaningful life, one that will benefit everyone around you
ScottSummers1141 3 months ago
Praise God for the internet! More people around the world are learning the truth about Joseph Smith and leaving the church in record breaking numbers and turning to Jesus Christ!!
jeanniem76 3 months ago
i know that he was a prophet of god. The church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is true. Read and pray about the Book of Mormon!!! Its true I know it is, the spirit of the lord has testified of that to me!!! You can get the same answer!!!! I know that the church is true and that we are lead prophets and apostles. This church is will continue to grow and fill the earth.
startrekmaniac 4 months ago
@startrekmaniac I did exactly that. i read the book of mormon, prayed about it, and i got nothing except a reminder of where i was( the Catholic Church) and how it was and is Christ's one, true church.
davidakadb 4 months ago
This is too vague to claim its a prophesy.
schpoogie 4 months ago 2
@schpoogie They said Internet, without saying that word. They mentiones every requirements for it.
What more do you ask?
chrstilen5 3 months ago
@chrstilen5 it was easy to predict that technology would allow for better ways of communication, and that's all he said really, he didn't even say that computers were gonna be involved or that it would be a worldwide phenomina. Becides i'd like to see his whole speech in context not just a 59 second fragment
schpoogie 3 months ago
@schpoogie So you wanthim to say... satelite combined with computers, that will make a conection and create a view for people 1000 miles away?
I dont realy see why this is so inportant. But I'd still say he said it kinda clearly.
chrstilen5 3 months ago
@chrstilen5 he made a prediction that technology would allow us to communicate over large distances...you have to agree that isn't a very hard prediction to make coz technology was heading that way. it's just too vague for me. Has he made any other prophecies? I'm willing to hear him out
schpoogie 3 months ago
@schpoogie Donk know about this guy. But the curch did for example. Tel people about smoke, eating and so on, when doctors told people. thatit was good for you.
chrstilen5 3 months ago
@chrstilen5 But scientists agree that alcohol and tea are actually quite healthy, 2 glasses of red wine a day is even recomended by many. Even coffee, while it has bad qualities about it, it also prevents liver disease, parkinsons disease, cancer and type 2 diabetes
schpoogie 3 months ago
@schpoogie Yes red wine can be good... but you get the same efect, by eating baries. You dont have to make it into wine to get the efect. But by makeing it into wine befor eating it. You will get bad efects.
Cofe is a trade of. Tea is someting members drink, so yeah it is good and tast good to ^_^. But not all of the kinds are good.
chrstilen5 3 months ago
@schpoogie But the best way to live a long and good life. Is to not take any of the bad stuff, like cofe for example. Best is to eat and drink good stuff and to work out.
The boddy will last longer if you eat only good stuff. And you're boddy will be able to deal with things like disease better, like you mentioned. A good body is a good protection agenst bad stuff ^_^
chrstilen5 3 months ago
Alcohol may have good stuff... it is good for cleaning wonds for example. But. It is not good for the mind. It allso gives bad efects for the body and it makes you an adict. Smoking is good for not eating to much... but smaking in itself, is bad ^_^ That's why we got the revelation, to not take that kind of stuff.
Everyting is good for someting... but noting is good, if you do it the wrong way ;D
chrstilen5 3 months ago
@schpoogie
Most research on resveratrol has been done on animals, not people. Research in mice given resveratrol suggests that the antioxidant might also help protect them from obesity and diabetes, both of which are strong risk factors for heart disease. However, those findings were reported only in mice, not in people. In addition, to get the same dose of resveratrol used in the mice studies, a person would have to drink over 60 lt. of red wine every day
MrPio6 3 months ago
There, the gilded, fiberglass icon of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will be bolted into place, capping a massive, granite-clad temple whose construction started Saturday with a groundbreaking ceremony.
Work is to begin in earnest next spring and finish in 2014.
omiolo 4 months ago
In three years, the Angel Moroni will descend on Philadelphia.
Trumpet in hand, he will alight on a spire nearly 200 feet above 18th and Vine Streets.
omiolo 4 months ago
Just keep on sending the money and I will translate for you!!!
915buck 4 months ago
@915buck huh?
omiolo 4 months ago
Awesome
jawjww 5 months ago
This is not prophecy!!! It's far too vague. What BS!
ZelphKinderhook 5 months ago
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@ZelphKinderhook "This is not prophecy!!! It's far too vague. "
in OTHER words you are NOT smart enough to figure it out? TYPICAL ANTImormon!
omiolo 4 months ago
God didnt help your Mom cuz you were a good boy or because you were part of the so called "only true church" He loves everyone and blesses everyone. I hope this helps you to embrace other people as equal and deserving of eternal life.
TheSoulamore 5 months ago
To me this is a prophecy about the establishment of the Internet. Prophecy fulfilled yet again by LDS prophets. No matter how much opposition there is, God always provides a way for us to be individually and collectively strengthened.
rockstarMileyCyrus 6 months ago
The internet is bringing a slow death 2 the Mormon church. They do an unbelievable job, brainwashing their members, but Mormonism is a lie, & the internet makes exposing the lies easier. Some Mormons will want 2 believe the lie badly enough that the truth will not interfere with their desire 4 lies 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Joseph Smith was a fraud, he identified the egyptian godesses Isis & Maat as men, look at figures 2 & 4 on page 41 of the "Pearl of Great Price". Look the godesses up anywhere.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 6 months ago
@1stcorinthians1vrs18 I'm a convert to the LDS church since 1981--I've been a member for 30 years. All this Internet stuff against Mormons drives me nuts. I read most of this stuff 30 years ago when I was investigating the church!! It was all I could find back then, in Christian book stores of all places. I knew it couldn't be right. Luckily I took the time to learn the truth. I finally did learn the answers. I can't imagine being a member of any other church. We have the fulness of the gospel.
cindybin2001 6 months ago 2
@cindybin2001 Why do U think Joseph Smith identified the egyptian godesses Isis & Maat as men? Look at figures 2 & 4 on page 41 of your Pearl of Great Price, do they look feminine 2 U? Have U ever learned anything about the egyptian gods Isis & Maat? Why did Joseph identify figure 1 as Abraham, when every single egyptian scholar knows that figure 1 is the egyptian god Osiris? I fear 4 Mormons, when i read 2 Thessalonians 2:8-12. Truth does not matter if it conflicts with lies we want 2 believe.
1stcorinthians1vrs18 6 months ago
@cindybin2001 You know why this internet stuff bothers you, because a lot of it's true. I agree alot's bs, I grew up mormon and I remember hearing some wild things about my church that I knew were false. Then I got older and looked for myself, and I was shocked by what I found in the Journal of Discourses and many other church approved sources. The main thing was how the church admits that Joseph Smith married other mens wives while they were on a mis, and that the 1st vision has 3 diff versions
rebelnomo 5 months ago
@rebelnomo Wrong! the First Vision has nine different versions. Google it. Prophecy? It just means they are part of the New World Order and privy to advances in technology before they are introduced to society at large.
GmaM11 5 months ago
@GmaM11 Hey, quit talkin shit about the NWO. I'm a memeber too.
rebelnomo 5 months ago
@cindybin2001 And what IS the gospel?
ukulelemike 5 months ago
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False prophet, false religion. Mormonism is a CULT - stay away from it. There is only ONE (1) God and His ONLY begotten Son is Jesus Christ.
edadan2009 8 months ago
I look back now, having seen the change that came to my mother as they offered me a choice of a mission or a college education, and I chose the greatest education a young man or woman could obtain by serving a mission. I saw the blessings that flowed to my parents.
omiolo 8 months ago
I saw my mother overcome an addiction that held her captive for so many years. Yet, somehow the blessings of a son's missionary service entered her life, and when her own mortal strength wavered, an unseen hand gave support and encouragement to overcome. . .
omiolo 8 months ago 2
In Harm's Way: East German Latter-Day Saints in World War II
Robert P. Minert. Provo, Utah: Brigham Studies Center, Brigham Young
University, 2009. Hardbound, 8.5x11", 545 pages.
omiolo 8 months ago
Contributors include: Richard Lyman Bushman, Richard E. Turley jr.,
Scott C. Esplin, Mary Jane Woodger, and many more.
omiolo 8 months ago
The papyri Joseph Smith used when he translated the BoA went missing
for decades, but were reacquired by the LDS Church in 1967. The
papyri were quickly swept up in a tornado of research. In this
episode Professor Hauglid talks about criticisms and controversies
surrounding the Book of Abraham. Hauglid also describes how the BoA
became part of the LDS canon. In addition to some of Hauglid's
favorite devotional bits of the text, he discusses a few interesting
ancient parallels.
omiolo 8 months ago
Every year we are honored to hear from Dr. Daniel C. Peterson at the
FAIR conference. In the 2008 conference, Dr. Peterson gave an
excellent talk titled "Humble Apologetics." It is a talk that every
apologist should listen to.
omiolo 8 months ago
Recently FAIR responded to yet another set of questions posed by an
anti-Mormon ministry that has appeared on a variety of critical
websites. The alleged "facts" about Mormonism given by Macgregor
Ministries contain so much hyperbole that they will greatly amuse
most Latter-day Saints. Nevertheless, we respond to each of these
"facts" here. Facts Mormons Won't Tell You When They Call at Your
Door
omiolo 8 months ago
If this is a prophecy about the internet, I must have missed it. Sounds like just a general chat about improving technology. Gordon B Hinckley was a charming man, but no prophet of God
FuroraCeltica 8 months ago
@FuroraCeltica "Gordon B Hinckley was a charming man, but no prophet of God"
God says differently about the second part.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo nah, Hinckley was not a prophet. Nice man, but thats where it ends
FuroraCeltica 8 months ago
@FuroraCeltica "Hinckley was not a prophet"
Once again, God disagrees with you.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo nope, God has told us the only way to Heaven is through His Son Jesus, not through following Mormon doctrine
FuroraCeltica 8 months ago
@FuroraCeltica "not through following Mormon doctrine"
since Mormon doctrine states that we must follow the commandments of Jesus Christ to get to heaven. I am guessing that you think you are BETTER than Jesus Christ and do NOT need to follow His commandments to get to heaven. Just because YOU lie, does NOT mean Jesus Christ did.
omiolo 8 months ago
@omiolo Christ's commands are not Mormonism. Mormonism says Jesus is the brother of Satan, which really says it all for me
FuroraCeltica 8 months ago
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@FuroraCeltica "Christ's commands are not Mormonism"
yes, Jesus Christ is at the head of the Church you call Mormon.
omiolo 8 months ago
As an astronomer, J. Ward Moody is not unfamiliar with having faith in the unknown.
As a former LDS bishop, he is not unfamiliar with that either.
"All of us will have faith," he said. "The only choice we have is where we put it. Faith is the source of all progress in this world."
omiolo 9 months ago
Three teams, composed of Chico Foot Ball Club Senior, Chico Foot Ball Club Masters, and the Mormon Foot Ball Club participated the game. The inmates numbering about 1000 witnessed and enjoyed the game, said Zamboanga City Jail Operations Chief, ...
omiolo 9 months ago
Three teams, composed of Chico Foot Ball Club Senior, Chico Foot Ball Club Masters, and the Mormon Foot Ball Club participated the game. The inmates numbering about 1000 witnessed and enjoyed the game, said Zamboanga City Jail Operations Chief, ...
omiolo 9 months ago
More than 300 local men, women and children from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints will participate in the effort, called Mormon Helping Hands, in which volunteers will clean up parks and other public places. In Lodi, volunteers will help ...
omiolo 9 months ago
Even in the mid 80's to early 90's the internet was not mainstream, listen to his words - "intimate and personal way" - dial up speeds and waiting 10 minutes for a page to load - being cut off by every phone call is not personal or intimate - it was not even productive. When DSL became mainstream things really took off and that was well after 1981 - canonized or not - this was inspired.
Dalessiokiller 9 months ago
In the beginning was the Internet. And the Internet begat USENET. And USENET begat net.religion -- which was the first Internet forum for the discussion of religion.
In 1984 I was able to first access the Internet and witnessed an intriguing discussion of "The Book of Moses" on net.religion.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo
1984?? The first website was not established until 1986!
N00bcrunch3r 9 months ago
@N00bcrunch3r do MORE research!
omiolo 9 months ago
It was where Mormon missionary John Groberg almost died of starvation after surviving a hurricane. Ten years before Elder Groberg served in Niuatoputapu (Knee-you-ah doh-poo dah-poo), Sione and Salote Wolfgramm were sent there as a young couple
omiolo 11 months ago
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
Not only that, but poor Fijians began to wish for consumer goods that few could afford. Researchers said television was a storm that arrived in their lives. Family structures eroded, and within less than two decades, as many as one in four young women reported having suicidal thoughts.
omiolo 11 months ago
So great is the influence of television that a new study from this Harvard team suggests that young women in Fiji become familiar with disordered eating through their friends when their friends have television but they don't.
omiolo 11 months ago
Um, there already was an Internet by 1981. So much for "prophecy".
amaxamon 11 months ago
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omiolo 11 months ago
@amaxamon Technically speaking you could say the internet was in motion and being created in the late 70s, early 80s but outside of military and academia no one knew about it or had any way of using it to communicate the way President Hinckley described. It wasn't till the late 80s and early 90s that the general public began using the internet as we know it. This speech is not considered a prophesy by the church and has not been canonized as such.
dclong60 9 months ago
“We will honor Bill and Donna by putting down the weapons of warfare – the weapons of our words – the words we speak and the words we write,” Lee said. “Speaking badly about one another will only hurt our community more. Let’s change the atmosphere.”
omiolo 11 months ago
. . .Elder Christofferson was awarded the J. Reuben Clark Society Distinguished Service Award for his contributions in the field of law.
omiolo 11 months ago
Elder Christofferson says man's laws should reflect God's
omiolo 11 months ago
Do we likewise remember to pray earnestly and consistently for that which we should most desire, even the Holy Ghost? Or do we become distracted by the cares of the world and the routine of daily living and take for granted or even neglect this most valuable of all gifts? Receiving the Holy Ghost starts with our sincere and constant desire for His companionship in our lives.
omiolo 11 months ago
“And the twelve did teach the multitude; and behold, they did cause that the multitude should kneel down upon the face of the earth, and should pray unto the Father in the name of Jesus. …
“And they did pray for that which they most desired; and they desired that the Holy Ghost should be given unto them” (3 Nephi 19:6, 9).
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo You forgot to mention the people and angels in the Bible who worshipped Jesus Christ.
awolLDSasap 11 months ago
@awolLDSasap I don't think "forgot" is the correct word.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo did you forget?
awolLDSasap 11 months ago
@awolLDSasap more games from you!!!
omiolo 11 months ago
Sincerely Desire
We first should desire, yearn for, and seek the companionship of the Holy Ghost. You and I can learn a great lesson about righteous desires from the faithful disciples of the Master described in the Book of Mormon:
omiolo 11 months ago
The Truth of the Gospel was not accepted readily in early biblical times, nor was it accepted in the New Testament. Think about it, Christ himself was not accepted as the True Savior, He was rejected, Why? Because these men and women were not intellectual enough to understand. No. They never opened themselves up spiritually in order to accept that which was Truth, It is not different today, Truth will allude those who don't truly seek it. They cannot see that which is before their own eyes.
tigergreg8 11 months ago
The Holy Ghost does not become operative in our lives merely because hands are placed upon our heads and those four important words are spoken. As we receive this ordinance, each of us accepts a sacred and ongoing responsibility to desire, to seek, to work, and to so live that we indeed “receive the Holy Ghost” and its attendant spiritual gifts.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo Wow! You must know how Johnny Cochran felt--defending the indefensible!
EastofForever 11 months ago
Hinkley: silly old fool!
EastofForever 11 months ago
@EastofForever “For what doth it profit a man if a gift is bestowed upon him, and he receive not the gift? Behold, he rejoices not in that which is given unto him, neither rejoices in him who is the giver of the gift” (D&C 88:33).
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo Dilation and Curretage? What does that have to do with the price of eggs in China and this silly old fool?
Wait...Jesus warned me about people like you--from the REAL Bible and his REAL words: "Don't throw your pearls before swine. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."
THE BIBLE (ever heard of it?) Matthew 7:6.
You're the only one posting on this silly page, sparky....
EastofForever 11 months ago
Kristine Haglund is the editor of Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought. She received an A.B. from Harvard University in German Studies and her M.A. from the University of Michigan in German Literature. Her research focuses on women's and children's history in the LDS Church, specifically on pedagogical material for children and youth as a locus of women's contributions to Mormon theology and doctrine, and on Mormonism in new media. . .
omiolo 11 months ago
WELCOME to The Round Table's first podcast! Please click on the tabs at the top of this page to learn more about us and about the goals of this new series on Mormon womanhood.
This month's guest: Kristine Haglund
omiolo 11 months ago
silly mormons and their silly fake gospel...(don't you just hate it when someone loses gold plates??)
EastofForever 1 year ago
@EastofForever Thank you for coming off as IGNORANT. It confirms why I could NEVER be like you.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo Ignorant!? Silly mormon! I studied mormonism at the graduate level!
Yes, you CAN be like me: it just takes intellectual honesty. Try it! you may like it!
EastofForever 11 months ago
Mormons in the NFL: Headed to the Super Bowl
Mormon Times
Jan 31, 2011
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo
Does the Mormon Times or any other sport press reveal what religion the other NFL team members belong too?
I seriously doubt it.
awolLDSasap 1 year ago
@awolLDSasap is that a concern for you? Does that get in the way of you ATTACKING Mormon Christians?
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo haha.. Mormon Christian is an oximoron.
awolLDSasap 11 months ago
@awolLDSasap Actually Mormons are the ENSIGN of Christianity. But I think you know that and that is what upsets you.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo Truth bounces off your noggin like water off a ducks back. You can't smell your own breath and you don't know you're brainwashed. Cognitive dissonance rules your world. I just asked my wife of 39 years if she had been indoctrinated to believe she was Christian or ANY other religion...she said the Mormon church was special unto itself, "like Islam". Today, she's completely free from the brainwashing of her youth. hooray.......
awolLDSasap 11 months ago
@awolLDSasap "Cognitive dissonance rules your world"
my favorite. The ole ANTImormon, I am an expert in internet psychological diagnosis. Trained by yourself to serve yourself. LOL
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo
I'm glad you got a smile outa that one.
Q. When does "I know" take precedence over evidence?
Should a testimony be resecured with "lying for the lord"?
Should lds leaders lay scorn upon documented, referenced publications?
Will the lds church rule the world someday?
Was Brigham Young an apostle of Joseph Smith?
People want to know.
awolLDSasap 11 months ago
Around the turn of the century several new scholars began to take a close look at what the Book of Mormon actually said about its geography, and some began to question the accuracy of the claim that Joseph received a revelation concerning the location of Lehi's landing. B.H. Roberts, for instance, called it an "alleged revelation.". . .
omiolo 1 year ago
Parents, obtain a personal copy of this booklet and read it often. Live the standards yourself. Have thoughtful gospel conversations with youth that will help them develop their own desire to live and discover for themselves the meaning and purpose of the standards.
omiolo 1 year ago
For the Strength of Youth is a marvelous tool to help youth understand this sacred obligation of covenant making and the blessings of purity that come from covenant keeping. It contains words of latter-day prophets
omiolo 1 year ago
the iron rod that will safely guide them along the strait and narrow path, turning them away from Satan’s entrapments that can delay their progress. In this booklet, you will also find the many blessings that come from obedience and seeking that which is “virtuous [and] lovely.
omiolo 1 year ago