To say one's an “MIT engineer” is to imply that one either teaches engineering at MIT or else otherwise worked for MIT as an engineer. Jeff King is not now nor has he ever been an MIT engineer (or research scientist), nor has he ever taught engineering or worked as an engineer for any university ever. He’s been a family doctor for at least 27 years and only received a joint biology/electrical engineering degree from MIT in 1974 to briefly work in medical devices before turning to medicine.
@Berkeley626 The crap that the "TM" trot out to hold up their positions knows no bounds!!. These people see what they want to see. No matter how many credible people you put in front of them or corroborated FACTUAL material.
I have yet to converse with one of them not willing to toss just about anyone under the bus in order for their "position" to stand up. It goes on and on with this lot.
I think they're all a little goofy. Either incredibly ignorant or stupid, I am not sure which.
collective consciousness.. i love it.. keep it up.. one day.. we will all take down these criminals the same way they took down these buildings and the many unfortunate souls that were taken away as a result of this horrific act. the victims and their families deserve to know the truth.. and we'll get there together.
the war on terror is a farce.. its the war on liberty that worries me.
I see all the crap that the US would not inflict harm on there own people, but there are theories that they did it before. It is called a false flag attack !!! The Cubin missile crises and the Pearl Harbour attack. Some rich prick is making money off of this and you can’t accept it. Wake the f up.
The firemen who survived in WTC 1 stairway have never said a thing about hearing explosives go off and if there ever were a sound conduit in a building it is the stairway. A linear shaped charge going off?? And your in the stair way??? Not a sound? GOOD LUCK!! Jules Naudet who shoots in WTC 1 lobby as the firemen realize WTC 2 is coming down are all of 800 feet below the impact area. He records nothing remotely like explosions going off. Just a dull distant rumble.
@roquefortfiles yes they did. half are dead from toxic dust inhalation. Please report to a dumb fuk ward for "no, no it"s all bad" ward for I shoved chop sticks in my ears section!!! Because u don't get it!!!
@katana2012666 Bullshit dude!! They said they could hear the floors landing on each other.
Are you fucking kidding me?? In a stairway?? With high explosives?? GOOD FUCKING LUCK!!
Just a little hint here. Everyone in Lower Manhattan would be ENTIRELY aware of this had it been a Controlled Demolition. It would not even REMOTELY be a question. We would KNOW about it had it really occurred.
@roquefortfiles 1- I don't need luck... 2- I never said it was a controlled demolition 3- check all the records before you say no one said there was additional explosions. 4- tower 7 is the hidden f- up for their lies!! So I guess because you all know about all the top secret air craft that the DOD flies over the US that they are incapable of this!. du hun, yea,,,suk it bitch!! So you have experience with ..nothing!!
@katana2012666 My friend i have been next to linear shaped charges going off. I have also video taped them with a professional news camera. Exactly what ABC NEWS or CBS would have.
This story of CD is so much ridiculous nonsense its hard for me to put in to words. It is nothing short of absurd. There is NO WAY.. ....NO WAY!! Charges are going off at that building.
Its not happening. I have been there i know what this is like first hand.
@katana2012666 Every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft with multiple corroborating sources (entirely credible sources!!).
So if you got the hijackers flying the planes................. Where does all this "Conspiracy" stuff start?
Its a load of nonsense dude!! explain it to me like I am a 5 year old. Where is the "START" point of this covert Gov operation. There has to be for your story to make any sense.
@roquefortfiles it starts with all 3 buildings that collapsed exhibiting all the tell tale signs of controlled demolition. Free fall speed means that it is not a collapse due to fire. It indicates many floors of support being removed within seconds of each other. It's not hard to wrap your head around, Mr. Disinfo.
@edyken77 If you knew what you were talking about.
Anyone who knows anything about CD can instantly tell the WTC looks NOTHING like a CD. It would behave entirely differently if explosives were involved. Same with 7. One charge capable of blowing a column would shatter the glass in 360 degrees around the building. It would do it with ease.
One.. let alone 10 more.
Silly theories and stories. Put out by people who don't know what the hell they are saying!!
@roquefortfiles DISINFO TROLL BLARG! Which WTC building are you referring to? WTC1 and WTC2 definitely do not look like your typical demolition. I doubt there has ever been a demolition on this scale, one which completely obliterates all the concrete into dust and launches the steel columns latterly for great distances. Also one that uses thermite is very different than any other demolition. But the fact remains that it was a demolition. Physics are stubborn things my friend.
@edyken77 I doubt there has ever been a demolition on this scale, one which completely obliterates all the concrete into dust and launches the steel columns latterly for great distances.
Explosives don't launch steel half a block and they don't turn concrete to powder. Exactly the reason it is NOT a CD.
You clearly don't understand what you're writing about. Physics is in perfect operation at the WTC collapses.
@edyken77 The real stubborn thing is the correct application of physics, not the half-truther convenient brand of physics. There is very little "fact" supporting controlled demolition. The truther take is that it was nanothermate (NT) that was used for demolition.NT is not concussive. NT would not pulverize concrete, nor eject steel columns. That might happen with a concussive material, such as used in typical blg demolitions. But it would also be accompanied by deafening explosions. Facts.
The people who believe the "official" story of 911....obviously know nothing about science or physics. I also see the Marxist tactic of personally attacking the messenger, when they can not refute the facts, at work here in the comments. Those who can not refute the facts.....call this guy names, make fun of his appearance etc etc. Karl Marx was an advocate of these tactics.
@nikto2000 LOL People probably make fun of you because your peoples beliefs are so clearly insane.
You people see that a jet airliner moving at speeds in excess of 500 MPH, with 20,000 gallons of jet fuel, weighting in at over 120 tonnes, slamming into a building and burning for almost an hour and say "yep that had to be demolitions put in place by the government"
Oh and you are using said marxist tactic by attacking by calling them marxist so lol Irony.
@nikto2000 Karl Marx wasnt a bad thinker or person (just saying I do believe in the 9/11 conspiracy) the communist manifesto is brilliant it has never been used actually. therefor an example of actual marxist communism has never been used, in fact it has always been turned in to fascism (stalin even said he didnt like the manifesto so he changed it, same with castro) this is because the manifesto does not allow the government to retain the money citizens earn, but rather distribute it without
@nikto2000 keeping it which we know stalin castro kim jeong il dont do they keep all that shit for there own party and selves its all really fascism, right winged, not left winged, just supported my boy Marx who is very very misunderstood now adays I am NOT a communist i know it can not work in this country at this point but just saying people think marx is a bad guy hes not
@nikto2000 Oh, you mean the thousands of structural engineers who support the official explanation know nothing about science or physics? Amazing that the buildings they design aren't collapsing left and right then. Surely you don't live in a building designed by one of them. Must be nice sleeping underneath the stars
If, IF you are right, then the port authority man who told everybody to go back up into the tower to their death, SHOULD be EXECUTED for MASS MURDER!!
Will you testify against him? Press Charges ? Why not? Go on, step out into the light!! You pretend to know something, so GO ON and bring to justice that MURDERER!
Preplanned damage control through demolition charge.. There was no conspiracy. It was necessary on the WTC and it’s just as necessary on other terrorist target buildings. There will never be an official public announcement as people would be fearful of working in pre charged buildings. Skyscrapers that fall without controlled demolition devastate many surrounding structures similar to a domino effect. This was a perfectly executed damage control operation in the midst of a terrorist attack.
@TJefferson1743 IF you are right, then the port authority man who told everybody to go back up into the tower to their death, SHOULD be EXECUTED for MASS MURDER!!
Will you testify against him? Press Charges ? Why not? Go on, step out into the light!! You pretend to know something, so GO ON and bring to justice that MURDERER!
9/11 had only advantages: both for the goverment to have a reason to go to the middle east, for silverstein to get more money, and for the engineer to really test if the WTC will hold the plane impact, and explosives where placed for backup, cause they know the towers hold the plane impact. That's what they where designed for.
I think everyone is overlooking one important fact. Why was everything turned into dust? There were over 50,000 computers in each one of the Twin Towers yet NOT ONE intact. What would have turned all these computers into dust. Look at all the pix (including Fresh Kill Land Fill) and there is NO OFFICE contents. No Chairs, Desks, File Cabinets, etc. Where did all this stuff go? Some of it should have survived. Smashed YES but NOT pulverized.
@2210ethan I have to laugh at some of your comments. Not everything would have been smashed into small pieces. Keep in mind that some of this stuff didn't fall that far. Look at the pix from Fresh Kill land fill. You wont find any office furniture. NONE!
You said that so many ceiling panels falling. You do realize that they NEVER found a stack of ceiling panels?
NO ALL of it was burnt. the fires were only on the upper floors. What about the, lets say, the first 60 floors?
@2210ethan I didn't say that everything was turned to dust or pieces, the GZ workers did. I have read and watched many of the GZ workers testimonies. I just think its strange that none of these things were found in the rubble pile.
I am not basing it on any of the photos anywhere. Everything was separated into piles at the Fresh Kill landfill and I cannot find any piles of these kinds of things. Why not? Everything else is there...
@2210ethan Well don't you think its STRANGE that they didn't find ONE door Knob?
NYPD Deputy Inspector and lead investigator on-site (working with FBI), James Luongo, when asked if there were one particular artifact of interest, replied:
"I think the lack of artifacts stands out to me quite a bit. I think the fact that I haven't seen a door, I haven't seen a phone, I haven't seen a computer. I haven't seen a doorknob. I think that stands out."
@2210ethan Are you really that dense? How many of the 220 floors do you think were on fire? LOL! His job was to sift through the debris and sort things out.
@2210ethan I have no idea? I just think its strange that none of them were found. The building collapsed from the TOP down so it wasn't the weight of the entire building that caused it. It couldn't have been the fall as some of them were on the lower floors. What would have turned these doorknobs into dust?
@2210ethan Actually everything was SORTED at the Fresh Kills Landfill. The workers stood next to a conveyor belt as everything passed and they picked recognizable object from the Dirt-Like stuff. The FBI was very surprised they didn't find these doorknobs and other things. The absence of these things was surprising. I just think its strange that out of over 50.000 file cabinets, ONLY ONE was found and it was from the basement of the WTC complex. STRANGE - dont you think?
No, not when you consider the forces involved, and I very much doubt that doorknobs and filing cabinets were high on the list of salvage wants. And nowhere near 'everything' was sorted, that's be an impossibly huge job.
And if you think it's so strange, please explain why...
@2210ethan Everything was documented at the Fresh Kills Landfill. they didnt prioritize anything except body parts.
EVERYTHING at Fresh Kills Landfill was sorted and RESORTED. It was a HUGE job but they even got done with it ahead of schedule (at everyone's surprise).
You don't think its strange that they didn't find these items? The FBI investigator that was in charge of the Fresh Kills operation was surprised by it.
@2210ethan You believers are amazing. You actually think that all these doorknobs could have been melted by all this force yet ALL THAT PAPER survived. Your minds really do work in strange ways.
@2210ethan LOL! Your comment doesn't even make any sense. We have ALL seen the paper flying all over the city yet not one doorknob. How thick headed are you?
Jeff King left is a lot closer to being a civil engineer than the vast majority of the truth movement, but is still pretty far. Graduated from MIT in '74, did about 10 years of electro-mechanical engineering, then quit engineering to become a physician.
He became a laughing stock after his 'pyroclastic flow' comments.
he fails to categorically address the points made by those he disagrees with and dismisses them out of hand. He is an electrical engineer, not a structural engineer. It is fitting that he was introduced by a comic at the beginning of the video.
@Freezframe what the fuck are you saying? there is plenty of other videos to convince yourself with. and if you are not convince ... then i can not help you
it doesn't matter the guy's not a civil engineer or even an engineer...the point is that what he said makes sense. The building should not have collapsed as it did...too many things that just don't add up.. oh, and BTW, I'm an electrical engineer also...guess what - they don't just hand out those degrees to idiots.
@jesusisalive2 I agree with all but 1 thing....they do just hand degrees to idiots. Not to say everyone with a degree is stupid, but how many people with degrees believe the official 9/11 story? LOTS....so yes...they do give degrees to people who are good at memorising but terrible at logic and reasoning. :) (was not calling you one of the stupid people since you didn't fall for the lie)
its silly little fools like you that cause so much trouble in the world you put up clips you this fool who has no standing in his profession talking nonesense i think you are a little silly but then boys will be boys .you mother should have been sterilized.she must be so proud of you
this shit is an insult to the people who died on 9/11 why dont these fools get a life for every so called expert they wheel out with this shit there are ten real experts who prove it was a terrorist attack why dont you all go get laid instead of inventing this shit ...... fucking morons
@smigery A much greater insult to the people who died on 9/11 is that our Government launched never-ending military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, when 15 out of 19 of the alleged hijackers, as well as Osama Bin Laden, were from this country called SAUDI ARABIA!!! Wow, quite the wacky CONSPIRACY THEORY, huh??
@Narniak69 hey dumbass where was bin laden hiding out when the attacks happend ????as for Iraq they had a crazy fucker who murderd its people for fun somebody had to do something to stop him and anybody who knows anything knows if the US want to attack they do it so why kill thousands of americans like i said its all bullshit so do you think Madrid bombing were the Spanish government of what about London eh? MORONS
@smigery HA HA HA HA!!!! OH SMIGERY, ARE YOU A DRUNK MONKEY, OR JUST A FUCKING RETARD??? I WILL GO WITH THE LATTER, THAT YOU ARE A MINDLESS FUCKING RETARD!!!
@jacobbrandon1984 ha ha if you knew my occupation you might think again about whether i paid attention you silly little boy . i go on facts not some silly conspiracy theory god you so gullable .
@smigery What you do for a living isn't really of any concern to me. Also, name calling....ouch...let me wipe my tears.
What your simple mind is taking is fact is really the first opinion you had fed directly into your memory hole...without any processing of actual information....by the main stream media.
After that you have just defended the "opinion" you had fed to you because of your big ego and small intellect.
Also, David Icke, and Alex Jones are entertaining, even if not always 100% right
@jacobbrandon1984 ok i shouldnt call names i agree but sorry i was giddy when i looked at your channel you see i remember David Icke when he first went nuts and was telling us the world would end one such a date that was in the late eighties i think and i also find funny is your remark about me not paying attention in my physics class as my occupation depended on that class more that most so its a little stupid of you to assume that .Really David Icke ha ha poor you
@smigery My point is this...if you believe the official 9/11 story...you have either not taken, or have not paid attention while taking physics...
Free fall speed+past of most resistance = can't happen....especially not 3 times in 1 day.
As far as David Icke goes...yea...he's probably a counter-intel plant like Alex Jones...but he is still entertaining nonetheless. (the movie independence day was entertaining also...and noone took it as fact did they?)
@jacobbrandon1984 ohhhh my god ha ha i'v just seen your channel ha ha your a David Ike fan ha ha ha ha ha ha your a nut job just like him so when are the aliens coming buddy ............eh sorry whos stupid now chukle chukle :-)
@smigery bollocks, most of the victims famlies believe they are being lied to and many know its an inside job. bill doyle, who represents the largest 9-11 victims families group has said so, so quit playing the 'victims families' card. they were lied to during the official 9-11 investigation (which they had to fight to actually get started) as the US govt didnt want an investigation . they say that most of their questions arent being answered. watch 'press for truth' for the scoop
@nick44495 im fed up with this whole thing everybody like a good conspiracy if its not the moon landings or jfk ,roswell its always going to something and yes there are a hell of a lot of real experts you can prove this was a terrorist attack the guy in this clip is a nut job who was sacked from his job and has no standing at all he has mental problems . im not going to argue about it any more its too silly .
oh have you heard the one about the usa gov causing the earthquake in Haiti.
Many postulate that the US Gov engineered this attack in order to go towards a more controlled society. The Patriot act came out one month after 9/11, in October. It's why we have the mini-nazis at airports investigating our shoes and doing naked body scanners, among other things.
Hmm. $600,000 to investigate the worst terror attack in history and $40,000,000 to investigate a cum stain. There's something wrong here. The 911 commission was set up to fail. Bush and Cheney testified at the same time and off the record to boot. When police interview a suspect they do so separately from anyone else involved to root out the truth.
You're fooling yourself to believe a person needs to be an expert in 'building demolition' to understand this event. Physics encapsulates 'building demolition' and 'EE' is an even more sophisticated use of physics principals, over those necessary for this collapse. Also, 'EE' is an area of science intently interested in 'chain reactions'.
You need to look at molecular dissociation. Look up Eugene Mallove, Michael Zebuhr. Steve Jones filed an RFC with NIST which contained no mention of molten metal or thermite? NIST contracted with SAIC, Boeing, and ARA for the NCSTAR1 report. Alaskan megnetometer data on 9/11 during events is extraordinary. Hurricane Erin was off the coast of NY on 9/11 and was as large as Katrina but it is never mentioned. "the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" ~Lenin
both collapses start at the impact zone. what kind of wire is going to withstand that while maintaining a circuit and who could've possibly guessed which floors each plane would crash into? think about how crazy that is dude
They found particles in the rubble that was linked to bombs in the twin towers..If everyone thinks terrorists did this then Bush should have been thrown in the building as he was one of them
Good point... but from where I was standing, I seem to remember the top of the building seeming to fall down on a collapsed bottom. So, really, in this argument you really can only ask 'who could have possibly guessed a plane would crash into the building'.
the area below the impact hole did not move until the top section collapse, and so on. this is why the towers had such a wide fall radius. if there was no resistance, it would have fallen straight down. in controlled demos the bottom falls with the top.
Which building are you referring to? Collapsed bottom? Are you talking about WTC 7? None of the towers had a collapsed bottom. WTC 7 had a damaged corner, but it still managed to fall uniformly. WTC 7 collapsed primarily due to fire, and NIST maintains it would have fallen without the Structural damage sustained from WTC 1 building collapse. At this point we can easily say that all three fell due to CD.
"NIST says WTC 7 collapsed primarily due to fire" I don't think the laws of Physics allowed the possibility." Who taught you physics? Willy Wonka...? Fire can definitely bring a steel building down. That's why we have people in the field called "fire protection engineers."
Google this guy. He's a physician (he even talks about his "patients" in the video), not an "MIT engineer" or "research scientist." He studied and briefly practiced electrical engineering decades ago when he worked his way through med school. He does not work fo MIT.
HAHAHAHA Its quit amazing how many of you debunkers know what that man did while he was at that school... Its also funny how so many of you personally know his life. Whats not funny is that its not just this man its pretty much a concensus between many different professions such as him and others in the free fall theory. Also on that its also a consensus between pilots that a plane could not have managed to hit the pentagon with so little damage to the ground and or how the 9-11 comission said.
And neither have you. But, while he has a degree in physics from one of the most prestigious science universities in the world, you only have your uncontrollable urge to be abusive and call everyone a DO*CHEBAG!
What a charmer and a true friend to the debunkernut movement.......NOT!
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Jeff King "graduated from MIT with an SB degree in 1974, with a combined Biology-EE major" and "worked for about eight years in electronics and electro-mechanical engineering." His profession for the last 27 years was "full time as a family physician".
Jeff King has NEVER studied structural engineering and he has NEVER worked in the structural engineering field.
You're right... he would never hold up in court. However, his response is to an event that inspires no 'legitimate' investigation; our top engineering schools are not only MIT, but Westpoint, Southern Cal, etc... schools. Now, this professional 'world' is tight and involves the Gov. and contractors like Boeing/McDonnell Douglas. Not something to help your career to get involved. Seems like this guy at least analyzed it a little. Please post some more legitimate analysis.
9/11 is the key to your freedom America, time now for you to all stand up and charge the people responsible! that way you can dissolve the recent disbandement of the American Soverignty and take your country back ... avoid a very bad future!
Can any of the debunkers please explain the mechanism in which the lower floors of WTC 7 were removed in fractions of a second prior to the upper floors hitting resistance? Especially when all of the potential energy of the building was already turned into kinetic energy to achieve the free fall acceleration admitted by NIST. Thus, leaving no energy from the falling building to cause any damage to the building below, which again did not provide any resistance as the building fell at free-fall.
In order to back up the official story of the WTC7 collapse:
Debunkers would have to explain how a collapse that required compression between floors and thus resistance could take place in free-fall acceleration.
If debunkers want to have any grounds to stand on, in critiquing those who challenge the official story.
They need to show that the official story itself is SOUND, in order to debunk those who question it.
Debunkers skip this step on the questions they cannot answer.
Ah yeah, Joe Blow doesn't think the official explanation is sound so now he's got the right to say leprachauns went in with machetes and hacked out the foundations without being critiqued. PuhLEEZE.
Can YOU (or WILL you) explain why the fire chief made sure the area was cleared 2 and a half HOURS before WTC7 collapsed?
There is only one way to destroy the lower resistance while at the same time achieving free-fall without the energy from the falling building. This is to remove the floors just holding up the building in fractions of seconds with controlled demolition. There is no other way.
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically proven and self verifiable.
I'm still curious, no one ever answers this question so I'll ask it again. What department at MIT does Jeff King work in? I have been to the MIT website and I cannot find him listed as faculty at the engineering department.
I know that Jeff King is honest about his nobody status. It's that the title of the video claims that he is an MIT engineer? lmao. Nice try! One video on here refers to this lunatic as "MIT engineer and research scientist Jeff King ." I find it amusing how desperate conspiracy freaks are to get people to accept their views. Jeff King was obviously a very shitty student a very very long time ago. I just wanted to hear someone else admit that he was a nobody. Thanks stupid.
Haha, that's just part of the Truthers logic. He clearly states in the begining that he STUDIED at MIT as a student, not that he ever worked there. But that's good enough for truthers to claim him as an MIT engineer lol
Besides, the crime is always--ultimately--pointed at the beneficiaries of the crime. Qui-Bono... who benefits?
What was inside WTC7 that might benefit Wall Street insiders or buddies in government? What offices were hit by "the plane" on the Pentagon? Would those offices be investigating where the missing 2.3 trillion went? Where DID that money get spent on?
The physics and engineering problems on 9/11 abound... but legally, all fingers point to insiders and global elite players.
fact: he wasent even part of the investigation. if he was he would have known anymore would have been worthless enough was taken for conclusion. 600k is a lie there were millions spent world wide towards investigation. obsurdity.. i could go on BUT why? fact is him like all the "truthers" speculate nonsence. a video showing close up collape is avalible... and whats even sader a man on the phone tapped talking till collape is heard perfect. WITHOUT ANY EXPLOSIONS AS SICK PPL LIKE HIM CLAIM..
Don't want to make you more angry, hope you didn't lose anybody. Well, just him presenting his opinion with the support of 'findings' makes him apart of the investigation. You're right, the money needed for this presentation would not be included in the 600k. It's best to take a 'for what it's worth' stance to something we don't know for certain ourselves. When did the tapping begin for the 'man' on the phone? Also, a demolition explosion isn't like a firework. Sorry, I shouldn't oppose you.
"911 was Hitler's Reichstag fire of 1933 and Roosevelt's Pearl Harbor masterfully coordinated to achieve the desired ends of an imperialistic role for America in the world, patriotic support at home and the erosion of our constitutional rights. In a nutshell"
Good thing we have 911 Truth to expose & extract Mosad funded zionist-perps from world banks & corporations controlling America. Hold the zionists perps responsible for 4 hijacked jet planes.
There would be reason to demolish the towers instead of allowing them to stand, should they fall in the dead of night. or allowing them to stand to reveal all the terror and horror within it's walls would have made for a very nasty crime scene. And probably a health hazard and smell. "Pull it". Contain it in a soup bowl. Rescue and Recovery.
Haha people know the truth. They know that the government did this attack or had their hand in it. Or that they knew about it and purposely did nothing to stop it. They will pay for their crimes in this world or the next.
watch the hit movie called World Trade Center- its very emotional and its a subconcious mind rape to show you how there was no explosion on the first floor, South Park did an episode debunking 9/11 and there is countless hours of debunking material on the history channel attempting to mind control the public- Why has Bin Laden not been caught yet? because hes the son of a rich oil man and Bush is also, theyre great friends and Bush financed him.
So, you want Bush and Bin Laden to be responsible, but not if explosives are involved? And, what kind of friends are they? You seem to have some information on the relationship. Me... I don't know who did it... but I think its somebody with a good deal of influence... maybe a military-business clique. Do you know any TV shows that debunk using the TV as a source?
The Bin Ladens are part of the the Saudi royal family. We wouldn't touch a Bin Laden with a 100 foot pole even if a Bin Laden killed the president on national TV.
Killing 'bin ladens' (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with loyalties to the family or a notion of its royalty. I'm not certain what the dynamics entail. What I can say... is that after analysis is seems unlikely (improbable), that the American Gov., military, or CIA/FBI are responsible; more improbable: the Taliban, any foreign state or body. However, it does appear to involve some internal conspirator(s). Realize the distraction of this discussion too, over the fact our gov. is vague.
Afghanistan produced around 15 percent of the world's heroin supply prior to our arrival... It is now estimated that they now produce 90% of the world's supply of heroin since our arrival! Coincidence??? NOT! You don't have to dig to far to find evidence that Bush senior while head of the CIA was a major drug trafficker if not the largest in the world. Like father like son.
TeskeRo, the funny thing is that when the Taliban were in power, they BRUTALLY prosecuted heroin users and opium growers. Whereas, the Northern Alliance controlled areas were havens for opium growers. The proceeds with which they funded their arms purchases as taught to do by the CIA during the Russian invasion? Is it any wonder then that, since the Northern Alliance, now known as the Afghan Govt., came to power headed by Ahmed Karzai, heroin production and opium planting has sky rocketed?
not nearly as much as the fact that it rose from 15% to 90% just since we invaded that country. But thanks for the input. p.s. do a little research into the Bush family's ties to drug smuggling, Barry Seals and the whole contra thing. btw, it's well known the George Bush Sr's peronal private phone number was found in Seals wallet when he was found shot to death. Seals is credited with being the largest drug trafficer in the world and also a cia agent. interesting isn't it? Google it
None of 911 makes sense unless you see it as the US gov seeking to justify its past policy and criminalise the so-called "Alcaida" group supposedly under the sole power of Bin Laden.
Rather than believe the propapanda machine, for a better measure of the truth buy books by people who have travelled through Afghanistan and Muslim countries, met the people even the Taliban. You will conclude a) there is no fixed target for US aggression and b) they couldn't have done 911 without US collaboration
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thins112 2 months ago
Jeff King is a nutjob.
kangtimelord 4 months ago
To say one's an “MIT engineer” is to imply that one either teaches engineering at MIT or else otherwise worked for MIT as an engineer. Jeff King is not now nor has he ever been an MIT engineer (or research scientist), nor has he ever taught engineering or worked as an engineer for any university ever. He’s been a family doctor for at least 27 years and only received a joint biology/electrical engineering degree from MIT in 1974 to briefly work in medical devices before turning to medicine.
Berkeley626 4 months ago
@Berkeley626 The crap that the "TM" trot out to hold up their positions knows no bounds!!. These people see what they want to see. No matter how many credible people you put in front of them or corroborated FACTUAL material.
I have yet to converse with one of them not willing to toss just about anyone under the bus in order for their "position" to stand up. It goes on and on with this lot.
I think they're all a little goofy. Either incredibly ignorant or stupid, I am not sure which.
roquefortfiles 2 months ago 2
collective consciousness.. i love it.. keep it up.. one day.. we will all take down these criminals the same way they took down these buildings and the many unfortunate souls that were taken away as a result of this horrific act. the victims and their families deserve to know the truth.. and we'll get there together.
the war on terror is a farce.. its the war on liberty that worries me.
danmarino1970 4 months ago 2
I see all the crap that the US would not inflict harm on there own people, but there are theories that they did it before. It is called a false flag attack !!! The Cubin missile crises and the Pearl Harbour attack. Some rich prick is making money off of this and you can’t accept it. Wake the f up.
katana2012666 4 months ago
The firemen who survived in WTC 1 stairway have never said a thing about hearing explosives go off and if there ever were a sound conduit in a building it is the stairway. A linear shaped charge going off?? And your in the stair way??? Not a sound? GOOD LUCK!! Jules Naudet who shoots in WTC 1 lobby as the firemen realize WTC 2 is coming down are all of 800 feet below the impact area. He records nothing remotely like explosions going off. Just a dull distant rumble.
The CD thing is BS
roquefortfiles 5 months ago
@roquefortfiles yes they did. half are dead from toxic dust inhalation. Please report to a dumb fuk ward for "no, no it"s all bad" ward for I shoved chop sticks in my ears section!!! Because u don't get it!!!
katana2012666 4 months ago
@katana2012666 Bullshit dude!! They said they could hear the floors landing on each other.
Are you fucking kidding me?? In a stairway?? With high explosives?? GOOD FUCKING LUCK!!
Just a little hint here. Everyone in Lower Manhattan would be ENTIRELY aware of this had it been a Controlled Demolition. It would not even REMOTELY be a question. We would KNOW about it had it really occurred.
I know.. I have experience with this stuff.
Its a load of CRAPOLA!!
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@roquefortfiles 1- I don't need luck... 2- I never said it was a controlled demolition 3- check all the records before you say no one said there was additional explosions. 4- tower 7 is the hidden f- up for their lies!! So I guess because you all know about all the top secret air craft that the DOD flies over the US that they are incapable of this!. du hun, yea,,,suk it bitch!! So you have experience with ..nothing!!
katana2012666 4 months ago
@katana2012666 My friend i have been next to linear shaped charges going off. I have also video taped them with a professional news camera. Exactly what ABC NEWS or CBS would have.
This story of CD is so much ridiculous nonsense its hard for me to put in to words. It is nothing short of absurd. There is NO WAY.. ....NO WAY!! Charges are going off at that building.
Its not happening. I have been there i know what this is like first hand.
Its ridiculous nonsense all of it
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@katana2012666 Every hijacker was confirmed on the aircraft with multiple corroborating sources (entirely credible sources!!).
So if you got the hijackers flying the planes................. Where does all this "Conspiracy" stuff start?
Its a load of nonsense dude!! explain it to me like I am a 5 year old. Where is the "START" point of this covert Gov operation. There has to be for your story to make any sense.
Sorry.. It doesn't.
roquefortfiles 4 months ago
@roquefortfiles it starts with all 3 buildings that collapsed exhibiting all the tell tale signs of controlled demolition. Free fall speed means that it is not a collapse due to fire. It indicates many floors of support being removed within seconds of each other. It's not hard to wrap your head around, Mr. Disinfo.
edyken77 2 months ago
@edyken77 If you knew what you were talking about.
Anyone who knows anything about CD can instantly tell the WTC looks NOTHING like a CD. It would behave entirely differently if explosives were involved. Same with 7. One charge capable of blowing a column would shatter the glass in 360 degrees around the building. It would do it with ease.
One.. let alone 10 more.
Silly theories and stories. Put out by people who don't know what the hell they are saying!!
I have experience in this.
roquefortfiles 2 months ago
@roquefortfiles DISINFO TROLL BLARG! Which WTC building are you referring to? WTC1 and WTC2 definitely do not look like your typical demolition. I doubt there has ever been a demolition on this scale, one which completely obliterates all the concrete into dust and launches the steel columns latterly for great distances. Also one that uses thermite is very different than any other demolition. But the fact remains that it was a demolition. Physics are stubborn things my friend.
edyken77 2 months ago
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@edyken77 I doubt there has ever been a demolition on this scale, one which completely obliterates all the concrete into dust and launches the steel columns latterly for great distances.
Explosives don't launch steel half a block and they don't turn concrete to powder. Exactly the reason it is NOT a CD.
You clearly don't understand what you're writing about. Physics is in perfect operation at the WTC collapses.
roquefortfiles 2 months ago
@edyken77 The real stubborn thing is the correct application of physics, not the half-truther convenient brand of physics. There is very little "fact" supporting controlled demolition. The truther take is that it was nanothermate (NT) that was used for demolition.NT is not concussive. NT would not pulverize concrete, nor eject steel columns. That might happen with a concussive material, such as used in typical blg demolitions. But it would also be accompanied by deafening explosions. Facts.
bman342a 2 months ago
electrical engineer. That's what he was.
TheSpartanondrugs 6 months ago
The people who believe the "official" story of 911....obviously know nothing about science or physics. I also see the Marxist tactic of personally attacking the messenger, when they can not refute the facts, at work here in the comments. Those who can not refute the facts.....call this guy names, make fun of his appearance etc etc. Karl Marx was an advocate of these tactics.
nikto2000 7 months ago 2
@nikto2000 LOL People probably make fun of you because your peoples beliefs are so clearly insane.
You people see that a jet airliner moving at speeds in excess of 500 MPH, with 20,000 gallons of jet fuel, weighting in at over 120 tonnes, slamming into a building and burning for almost an hour and say "yep that had to be demolitions put in place by the government"
Oh and you are using said marxist tactic by attacking by calling them marxist so lol Irony.
thesparitan 7 months ago
@nikto2000 Karl Marx wasnt a bad thinker or person (just saying I do believe in the 9/11 conspiracy) the communist manifesto is brilliant it has never been used actually. therefor an example of actual marxist communism has never been used, in fact it has always been turned in to fascism (stalin even said he didnt like the manifesto so he changed it, same with castro) this is because the manifesto does not allow the government to retain the money citizens earn, but rather distribute it without
animaniacsrule 4 months ago
@nikto2000 keeping it which we know stalin castro kim jeong il dont do they keep all that shit for there own party and selves its all really fascism, right winged, not left winged, just supported my boy Marx who is very very misunderstood now adays I am NOT a communist i know it can not work in this country at this point but just saying people think marx is a bad guy hes not
animaniacsrule 4 months ago
@nikto2000 Oh, you mean the thousands of structural engineers who support the official explanation know nothing about science or physics? Amazing that the buildings they design aren't collapsing left and right then. Surely you don't live in a building designed by one of them. Must be nice sleeping underneath the stars
Berkeley626 4 months ago
If, IF you are right, then the port authority man who told everybody to go back up into the tower to their death, SHOULD be EXECUTED for MASS MURDER!!
Will you testify against him? Press Charges ? Why not? Go on, step out into the light!! You pretend to know something, so GO ON and bring to justice that MURDERER!
light4darkness 8 months ago
This nerd reminds me of Dr. Jack Badofsky from SNL. He keeps futsing with his eyeglasses.
I believe what he has to say about the collapse of the Towers.
DancingSpiderman 10 months ago
Preplanned damage control through demolition charge.. There was no conspiracy. It was necessary on the WTC and it’s just as necessary on other terrorist target buildings. There will never be an official public announcement as people would be fearful of working in pre charged buildings. Skyscrapers that fall without controlled demolition devastate many surrounding structures similar to a domino effect. This was a perfectly executed damage control operation in the midst of a terrorist attack.
TJefferson1743 1 year ago
@TJefferson1743
That's interesting. Never thought of it that way.
drbayoms 11 months ago
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@TJefferson1743 IF you are right, then the port authority man who told everybody to go back up into the tower to their death, SHOULD be EXECUTED for MASS MURDER!!
Will you testify against him? Press Charges ? Why not? Go on, step out into the light!! You pretend to know something, so GO ON and bring to justice that MURDERER!
light4darkness 8 months ago
Is there a part 2 for this?
earthwormjj 1 year ago
9/11 had only advantages: both for the goverment to have a reason to go to the middle east, for silverstein to get more money, and for the engineer to really test if the WTC will hold the plane impact, and explosives where placed for backup, cause they know the towers hold the plane impact. That's what they where designed for.
barthoedemaker 1 year ago
I think everyone is overlooking one important fact. Why was everything turned into dust? There were over 50,000 computers in each one of the Twin Towers yet NOT ONE intact. What would have turned all these computers into dust. Look at all the pix (including Fresh Kill Land Fill) and there is NO OFFICE contents. No Chairs, Desks, File Cabinets, etc. Where did all this stuff go? Some of it should have survived. Smashed YES but NOT pulverized.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
I guess there's a few possible explanations:
One- there was some office debris and you just happen to have not seen pic of it, I can't see why anyone in the media would bother to film it.
Two- it was smashed up small by so many ceilings falling onto it, and everything combustible was burnt.
Three- the reptiloids did it.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan I have to laugh at some of your comments. Not everything would have been smashed into small pieces. Keep in mind that some of this stuff didn't fall that far. Look at the pix from Fresh Kill land fill. You wont find any office furniture. NONE!
You said that so many ceiling panels falling. You do realize that they NEVER found a stack of ceiling panels?
NO ALL of it was burnt. the fires were only on the upper floors. What about the, lets say, the first 60 floors?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Sorry you didn't like my suggestions. I look forward to hearing yours.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Its not that I didn't like them. I just didn't think they made sense as I pointed out in my response.
I have no idea what turned everything into dust. That is why i brought up this topic. I am looking for answers.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
So you think that 'everything' was 'turned to dust'?
And you're basing that on looking at some photos of landfill?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan I didn't say that everything was turned to dust or pieces, the GZ workers did. I have read and watched many of the GZ workers testimonies. I just think its strange that none of these things were found in the rubble pile.
I am not basing it on any of the photos anywhere. Everything was separated into piles at the Fresh Kill landfill and I cannot find any piles of these kinds of things. Why not? Everything else is there...
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
So you read some testimonies of some workers, who didn't see any computers, is that it?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Yes I have seen these GZ workers on video making these claims.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
I see.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
any chance of a link?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Here is the name of one of the videos.
"9/11 Debris: Investigation of Ground Zero, Pt. 1"
watch?v=QnnXTrw88P4
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Very entertaining. So their evidence for demolition is that 'There was little that was recognizable in the debris'?
Seriously?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Well don't you think its STRANGE that they didn't find ONE door Knob?
NYPD Deputy Inspector and lead investigator on-site (working with FBI), James Luongo, when asked if there were one particular artifact of interest, replied:
"I think the lack of artifacts stands out to me quite a bit. I think the fact that I haven't seen a door, I haven't seen a phone, I haven't seen a computer. I haven't seen a doorknob. I think that stands out."
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
And what conclusion did James Luongo draw from that?
Of course the destruction was unprecedented, those were some huge buildings and a fair bit of jey fuel and combustibles.
Why should anyone look for a door knob? Why would they mention if they saw one?
What is your theory?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Are you really that dense? How many of the 220 floors do you think were on fire? LOL! His job was to sift through the debris and sort things out.
Did you watch the video?
If not, its a waste of time talking to you.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Yes. I watched the video.
I also asked you what conclusion Luongo drew, if you're using him to support your 'argument' it's important to establish his views.
What is your theory?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan I have no idea what his view is. You will have to ask him.
He thought it was ODD they didn't find things like that. You have to ask yourself what kind of force would it take to pulverize these kind of objects.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
The force of one of the largest buildings in the world collapsing?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Even that force wouldn't make door knobs turn to dust. It just doesn't make sense.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Really?
How much force would it take to pulverise a door knob?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan I have no idea? I just think its strange that none of them were found. The building collapsed from the TOP down so it wasn't the weight of the entire building that caused it. It couldn't have been the fall as some of them were on the lower floors. What would have turned these doorknobs into dust?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Perhaps they weren't all destroyed, after all who would care about finding them?
For most items though, fires and heavy things falling on them hard will do the job.
Unless you have another theory?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Actually everything was SORTED at the Fresh Kills Landfill. The workers stood next to a conveyor belt as everything passed and they picked recognizable object from the Dirt-Like stuff. The FBI was very surprised they didn't find these doorknobs and other things. The absence of these things was surprising. I just think its strange that out of over 50.000 file cabinets, ONLY ONE was found and it was from the basement of the WTC complex. STRANGE - dont you think?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
No, not when you consider the forces involved, and I very much doubt that doorknobs and filing cabinets were high on the list of salvage wants. And nowhere near 'everything' was sorted, that's be an impossibly huge job.
And if you think it's so strange, please explain why...
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Everything was documented at the Fresh Kills Landfill. they didnt prioritize anything except body parts.
EVERYTHING at Fresh Kills Landfill was sorted and RESORTED. It was a HUGE job but they even got done with it ahead of schedule (at everyone's surprise).
You don't think its strange that they didn't find these items? The FBI investigator that was in charge of the Fresh Kills operation was surprised by it.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Wiki tells me that 1/3 of the rubble was brought there, and some of it was sorted. Is that incorrect?
And why should anyone mention whether they find a doorknob? And if it is strange, why?
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan Please provide me with this link.
Regarding the doorknobs, Everything was cataloged.
The strange part? What would have cused them all to turn to dust?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@2210ethan Please provide me with the link to the 1/3 of the rubble...
Regarding the doorknobs, EVERYTHING was cataloged.
The strange part? Dont you think it stranged that all of them turned into dust?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
I told you, it's just from wiki, in the article on the landfill. Do you have an alternative? It certainly doesn't say that everything was catalogued.
It wouldn't surprise me if a doorknob was crushed or melted by that amount of power.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan You believers are amazing. You actually think that all these doorknobs could have been melted by all this force yet ALL THAT PAPER survived. Your minds really do work in strange ways.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Perhaps you'd care to share your source re: doorknobs compared to paper.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan LOL! Your comment doesn't even make any sense. We have ALL seen the paper flying all over the city yet not one doorknob. How thick headed are you?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
Oh. I see. So your 'theory' is based upon hearsay. Quelle Surprise
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan LOL! and you use WIKI. LOL!!! you are funny guy.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
As I said, feel free to share your sources, you're extremely credible so far.
2210ethan 1 year ago
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@2210ethan Please provide me with the link to the 1/3 of the rubble...
Regarding the doorknobs, EVERYTHING was cataloged.
The strange part? Dont you think it strange that all of them turned into dust?
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@2210ethan Did you watch this video (both parts)?
9/11 Debris: Investigation of Ground Zero
watch?v=QnnXTrw88P4
infoseeker264 1 year ago
Jeff King left is a lot closer to being a civil engineer than the vast majority of the truth movement, but is still pretty far. Graduated from MIT in '74, did about 10 years of electro-mechanical engineering, then quit engineering to become a physician.
He became a laughing stock after his 'pyroclastic flow' comments.
Hope this helps.
2210ethan 1 year ago
@2210ethan I dont recall the Pyroclastic Comment. I don't see how any of this would change the facts.
infoseeker264 1 year ago
@infoseeker264
I totally agree, it doesn't change the facts at all.
2210ethan 1 year ago
he fails to categorically address the points made by those he disagrees with and dismisses them out of hand. He is an electrical engineer, not a structural engineer. It is fitting that he was introduced by a comic at the beginning of the video.
Freezframe 1 year ago
@Freezframe what the fuck are you saying? there is plenty of other videos to convince yourself with. and if you are not convince ... then i can not help you
nick44495 1 year ago
it doesn't matter the guy's not a civil engineer or even an engineer...the point is that what he said makes sense. The building should not have collapsed as it did...too many things that just don't add up.. oh, and BTW, I'm an electrical engineer also...guess what - they don't just hand out those degrees to idiots.
jesusisalive2 1 year ago
@jesusisalive2 I agree with all but 1 thing....they do just hand degrees to idiots. Not to say everyone with a degree is stupid, but how many people with degrees believe the official 9/11 story? LOTS....so yes...they do give degrees to people who are good at memorising but terrible at logic and reasoning. :) (was not calling you one of the stupid people since you didn't fall for the lie)
jacobbrandon1984 1 year ago
well, if you look at building 7, it is quite obvious that it was brought down by CD.
also, check this out: patriotsquestion911 . com
jesusisalive2 1 year ago
its silly little fools like you that cause so much trouble in the world you put up clips you this fool who has no standing in his profession talking nonesense i think you are a little silly but then boys will be boys .you mother should have been sterilized.she must be so proud of you
smigery 1 year ago
this shit is an insult to the people who died on 9/11 why dont these fools get a life for every so called expert they wheel out with this shit there are ten real experts who prove it was a terrorist attack why dont you all go get laid instead of inventing this shit ...... fucking morons
smigery 1 year ago
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Narniak69 1 year ago
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@smigery A much greater insult to the people who died on 9/11 is that our Government launched never-ending military campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan, when 15 out of 19 of the alleged hijackers, as well as Osama Bin Laden, were from this country called SAUDI ARABIA!!! Wow, quite the wacky CONSPIRACY THEORY, huh??
Narniak69 1 year ago
@Narniak69 hey dumbass where was bin laden hiding out when the attacks happend ????as for Iraq they had a crazy fucker who murderd its people for fun somebody had to do something to stop him and anybody who knows anything knows if the US want to attack they do it so why kill thousands of americans like i said its all bullshit so do you think Madrid bombing were the Spanish government of what about London eh? MORONS
smigery 1 year ago
@smigery HA HA HA HA!!!! OH SMIGERY, ARE YOU A DRUNK MONKEY, OR JUST A FUCKING RETARD??? I WILL GO WITH THE LATTER, THAT YOU ARE A MINDLESS FUCKING RETARD!!!
Narniak69 1 year ago
@smigery ROFL...I normally hate stupid people...but occasionally I get a chuckle out of one.
Thank you for not paying attention in physics class. :)
jacobbrandon1984 1 year ago
@jacobbrandon1984 ha ha if you knew my occupation you might think again about whether i paid attention you silly little boy . i go on facts not some silly conspiracy theory god you so gullable .
smigery 1 year ago
@smigery What you do for a living isn't really of any concern to me. Also, name calling....ouch...let me wipe my tears.
What your simple mind is taking is fact is really the first opinion you had fed directly into your memory hole...without any processing of actual information....by the main stream media.
After that you have just defended the "opinion" you had fed to you because of your big ego and small intellect.
Also, David Icke, and Alex Jones are entertaining, even if not always 100% right
jacobbrandon1984 1 year ago
@jacobbrandon1984 ok i shouldnt call names i agree but sorry i was giddy when i looked at your channel you see i remember David Icke when he first went nuts and was telling us the world would end one such a date that was in the late eighties i think and i also find funny is your remark about me not paying attention in my physics class as my occupation depended on that class more that most so its a little stupid of you to assume that .Really David Icke ha ha poor you
smigery 1 year ago
@smigery My point is this...if you believe the official 9/11 story...you have either not taken, or have not paid attention while taking physics...
Free fall speed+past of most resistance = can't happen....especially not 3 times in 1 day.
As far as David Icke goes...yea...he's probably a counter-intel plant like Alex Jones...but he is still entertaining nonetheless. (the movie independence day was entertaining also...and noone took it as fact did they?)
jacobbrandon1984 1 year ago
@jacobbrandon1984 ohhhh my god ha ha i'v just seen your channel ha ha your a David Ike fan ha ha ha ha ha ha your a nut job just like him so when are the aliens coming buddy ............eh sorry whos stupid now chukle chukle :-)
smigery 1 year ago
@smigery bollocks, most of the victims famlies believe they are being lied to and many know its an inside job. bill doyle, who represents the largest 9-11 victims families group has said so, so quit playing the 'victims families' card. they were lied to during the official 9-11 investigation (which they had to fight to actually get started) as the US govt didnt want an investigation . they say that most of their questions arent being answered. watch 'press for truth' for the scoop
PFCAhammed 1 year ago
@PFCAhammed Bolloxs indeed my friend !
smigery 1 year ago
@smigery i would like to see a single expert proving such a thing? one at least who is not paid by the government
nick44495 1 year ago
@nick44495 im fed up with this whole thing everybody like a good conspiracy if its not the moon landings or jfk ,roswell its always going to something and yes there are a hell of a lot of real experts you can prove this was a terrorist attack the guy in this clip is a nut job who was sacked from his job and has no standing at all he has mental problems . im not going to argue about it any more its too silly .
oh have you heard the one about the usa gov causing the earthquake in Haiti.
smigery 1 year ago
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MELISSA84008 1 year ago
wow so WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED that day?!!! both plane crash + explosives on plane + controlled, timed explosions on each level?!!!
wtf!? i plead ignorance on this issue.
thegoonist 1 year ago
@thegoonist
Many postulate that the US Gov engineered this attack in order to go towards a more controlled society. The Patriot act came out one month after 9/11, in October. It's why we have the mini-nazis at airports investigating our shoes and doing naked body scanners, among other things.
binaryagent 1 year ago 15
Hmm. $600,000 to investigate the worst terror attack in history and $40,000,000 to investigate a cum stain. There's something wrong here. The 911 commission was set up to fail. Bush and Cheney testified at the same time and off the record to boot. When police interview a suspect they do so separately from anyone else involved to root out the truth.
Mrcastleskeep 1 year ago
You're fooling yourself to believe a person needs to be an expert in 'building demolition' to understand this event. Physics encapsulates 'building demolition' and 'EE' is an even more sophisticated use of physics principals, over those necessary for this collapse. Also, 'EE' is an area of science intently interested in 'chain reactions'.
FoolMagazine 1 year ago
You need to look at molecular dissociation. Look up Eugene Mallove, Michael Zebuhr. Steve Jones filed an RFC with NIST which contained no mention of molten metal or thermite? NIST contracted with SAIC, Boeing, and ARA for the NCSTAR1 report. Alaskan megnetometer data on 9/11 during events is extraordinary. Hurricane Erin was off the coast of NY on 9/11 and was as large as Katrina but it is never mentioned. "the best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves" ~Lenin
babybluesnowden 1 year ago
garbage
extremedavo1979 1 year ago
u people are so fucking crazy lol
both collapses start at the impact zone. what kind of wire is going to withstand that while maintaining a circuit and who could've possibly guessed which floors each plane would crash into? think about how crazy that is dude
Flisticuffs 1 year ago
They found particles in the rubble that was linked to bombs in the twin towers..If everyone thinks terrorists did this then Bush should have been thrown in the building as he was one of them
kalel38 1 year ago
Good point... but from where I was standing, I seem to remember the top of the building seeming to fall down on a collapsed bottom. So, really, in this argument you really can only ask 'who could have possibly guessed a plane would crash into the building'.
FoolMagazine 1 year ago
the area below the impact hole did not move until the top section collapse, and so on. this is why the towers had such a wide fall radius. if there was no resistance, it would have fallen straight down. in controlled demos the bottom falls with the top.
Flisticuffs 1 year ago
Which building are you referring to? Collapsed bottom? Are you talking about WTC 7? None of the towers had a collapsed bottom. WTC 7 had a damaged corner, but it still managed to fall uniformly. WTC 7 collapsed primarily due to fire, and NIST maintains it would have fallen without the Structural damage sustained from WTC 1 building collapse. At this point we can easily say that all three fell due to CD.
MultiBlinkey 1 year ago
oops meant to say "NIST says WTC 7 collapsed primarily due to fire" I don't think the laws of Physics allowed the possibility.
MultiBlinkey 1 year ago
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@MultiBlinkey
"NIST says WTC 7 collapsed primarily due to fire" I don't think the laws of Physics allowed the possibility." Who taught you physics? Willy Wonka...? Fire can definitely bring a steel building down. That's why we have people in the field called "fire protection engineers."
fengineer08 1 year ago
@MultiBlinkey watch?v=rP9Qp5QWRMQ a physics teacher explains in great detail why and how the NIST report is flawed.
Mrcastleskeep 1 year ago
Google this guy. He's a physician (he even talks about his "patients" in the video), not an "MIT engineer" or "research scientist." He studied and briefly practiced electrical engineering decades ago when he worked his way through med school. He does not work fo MIT.
Berkeley626 2 years ago
HAHAHAHA Its quit amazing how many of you debunkers know what that man did while he was at that school... Its also funny how so many of you personally know his life. Whats not funny is that its not just this man its pretty much a concensus between many different professions such as him and others in the free fall theory. Also on that its also a consensus between pilots that a plane could not have managed to hit the pentagon with so little damage to the ground and or how the 9-11 comission said.
ctrackmonger 2 years ago
And neither have you. But, while he has a degree in physics from one of the most prestigious science universities in the world, you only have your uncontrollable urge to be abusive and call everyone a DO*CHEBAG!
What a charmer and a true friend to the debunkernut movement.......NOT!
StephenMaturinMD 2 years ago
plaguepuppy_ net / public_ html / Confronting the Evidence /
Jeff King "graduated from MIT with an SB degree in 1974, with a combined Biology-EE major" and "worked for about eight years in electronics and electro-mechanical engineering." His profession for the last 27 years was "full time as a family physician".
Jeff King has NEVER studied structural engineering and he has NEVER worked in the structural engineering field.
diskpanic 2 years ago
I thought the same thing when he said his background was physics and EE. Only an idiot would think an EE was an expert on building demolition.
abcsci 1 year ago
You're right... he would never hold up in court. However, his response is to an event that inspires no 'legitimate' investigation; our top engineering schools are not only MIT, but Westpoint, Southern Cal, etc... schools. Now, this professional 'world' is tight and involves the Gov. and contractors like Boeing/McDonnell Douglas. Not something to help your career to get involved. Seems like this guy at least analyzed it a little. Please post some more legitimate analysis.
FoolMagazine 1 year ago
9/11 is the key to your freedom America, time now for you to all stand up and charge the people responsible! that way you can dissolve the recent disbandement of the American Soverignty and take your country back ... avoid a very bad future!
please American's it is very important.
aliceincode 2 years ago 17
@aliceincode
I fully agree. Many of us are doing what we can to fight.
binaryagent 1 year ago
Can any of the debunkers please explain the mechanism in which the lower floors of WTC 7 were removed in fractions of a second prior to the upper floors hitting resistance? Especially when all of the potential energy of the building was already turned into kinetic energy to achieve the free fall acceleration admitted by NIST. Thus, leaving no energy from the falling building to cause any damage to the building below, which again did not provide any resistance as the building fell at free-fall.
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago 2
In order to back up the official story of the WTC7 collapse:
Debunkers would have to explain how a collapse that required compression between floors and thus resistance could take place in free-fall acceleration.
If debunkers want to have any grounds to stand on, in critiquing those who challenge the official story.
They need to show that the official story itself is SOUND, in order to debunk those who question it.
Debunkers skip this step on the questions they cannot answer.
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago 2
Ah yeah, Joe Blow doesn't think the official explanation is sound so now he's got the right to say leprachauns went in with machetes and hacked out the foundations without being critiqued. PuhLEEZE.
Can YOU (or WILL you) explain why the fire chief made sure the area was cleared 2 and a half HOURS before WTC7 collapsed?
oxomaticman 2 years ago
@oxomaticman prior knowledge? why did a BBC news caster report the WTC fell when it had NOT fallen yet?
inhuman0id 1 year ago
There is only one way to destroy the lower resistance while at the same time achieving free-fall without the energy from the falling building. This is to remove the floors just holding up the building in fractions of seconds with controlled demolition. There is no other way.
WTC7 Freefall - No Longer Controversial. Scientifically proven and self verifiable.
watch?v=gC44L0-2zL8
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall
(Part 1)
watch?v=V0GHVEKrhng
(2)
watch?v=XtKLtUiww80
(3)
watch?v=Vz43hcKYBm4
Bi0hazardx 2 years ago
I was unable to retrieve these videos... a 'error on page' cropped up on each address. I'll try another way
motorolarules 2 years ago
I'm still curious, no one ever answers this question so I'll ask it again. What department at MIT does Jeff King work in? I have been to the MIT website and I cannot find him listed as faculty at the engineering department.
adkinsjr 2 years ago
Because he clearly said that he was a student a long time ago. Stupid
candyoti 2 years ago
I know that Jeff King is honest about his nobody status. It's that the title of the video claims that he is an MIT engineer? lmao. Nice try! One video on here refers to this lunatic as "MIT engineer and research scientist Jeff King ." I find it amusing how desperate conspiracy freaks are to get people to accept their views. Jeff King was obviously a very shitty student a very very long time ago. I just wanted to hear someone else admit that he was a nobody. Thanks stupid.
adkinsjr 2 years ago
I think Jeff King is the janitor for Burger King...that should answer your stupid curiosity.
alphamain 2 years ago
Haha, that's just part of the Truthers logic. He clearly states in the begining that he STUDIED at MIT as a student, not that he ever worked there. But that's good enough for truthers to claim him as an MIT engineer lol
jeffmay1 2 years ago
Besides, the crime is always--ultimately--pointed at the beneficiaries of the crime. Qui-Bono... who benefits?
What was inside WTC7 that might benefit Wall Street insiders or buddies in government? What offices were hit by "the plane" on the Pentagon? Would those offices be investigating where the missing 2.3 trillion went? Where DID that money get spent on?
The physics and engineering problems on 9/11 abound... but legally, all fingers point to insiders and global elite players.
DarthKazi 2 years ago
Simple way to cover up truth:
Put it in plain view by having crack-pots, liars and agents with fake credentials to state it.
Then you have the brainwashed morons in society come to the rescue of GOD'S UNITED STATES OF JESUS, to "debunk" the claims.
You have insiders telling the truth, morons attempting to debunk it (and agents with real credentials) doing a knee-slappingly bad job at that.
And that is all you need to cover up a major crime.
DarthKazi 2 years ago
fact: he wasent even part of the investigation. if he was he would have known anymore would have been worthless enough was taken for conclusion. 600k is a lie there were millions spent world wide towards investigation. obsurdity.. i could go on BUT why? fact is him like all the "truthers" speculate nonsence. a video showing close up collape is avalible... and whats even sader a man on the phone tapped talking till collape is heard perfect. WITHOUT ANY EXPLOSIONS AS SICK PPL LIKE HIM CLAIM..
playinragz 2 years ago
Don't want to make you more angry, hope you didn't lose anybody. Well, just him presenting his opinion with the support of 'findings' makes him apart of the investigation. You're right, the money needed for this presentation would not be included in the 600k. It's best to take a 'for what it's worth' stance to something we don't know for certain ourselves. When did the tapping begin for the 'man' on the phone? Also, a demolition explosion isn't like a firework. Sorry, I shouldn't oppose you.
FoolMagazine 2 years ago
You are so correct - the Final Solution.
"911 was Hitler's Reichstag fire of 1933 and Roosevelt's Pearl Harbor masterfully coordinated to achieve the desired ends of an imperialistic role for America in the world, patriotic support at home and the erosion of our constitutional rights. In a nutshell"
Good thing we have 911 Truth to expose & extract Mosad funded zionist-perps from world banks & corporations controlling America. Hold the zionists perps responsible for 4 hijacked jet planes.
911Shaman 2 years ago 2
There would be reason to demolish the towers instead of allowing them to stand, should they fall in the dead of night. or allowing them to stand to reveal all the terror and horror within it's walls would have made for a very nasty crime scene. And probably a health hazard and smell. "Pull it". Contain it in a soup bowl. Rescue and Recovery.
911Shaman 2 years ago
Haha people know the truth. They know that the government did this attack or had their hand in it. Or that they knew about it and purposely did nothing to stop it. They will pay for their crimes in this world or the next.
Adahondeayenh 2 years ago
watch the hit movie called World Trade Center- its very emotional and its a subconcious mind rape to show you how there was no explosion on the first floor, South Park did an episode debunking 9/11 and there is countless hours of debunking material on the history channel attempting to mind control the public- Why has Bin Laden not been caught yet? because hes the son of a rich oil man and Bush is also, theyre great friends and Bush financed him.
richmandanny 3 years ago
Why is he not even listed on the FBI's most wanted list for 9/11?
zappos49 2 years ago 2
So, you want Bush and Bin Laden to be responsible, but not if explosives are involved? And, what kind of friends are they? You seem to have some information on the relationship. Me... I don't know who did it... but I think its somebody with a good deal of influence... maybe a military-business clique. Do you know any TV shows that debunk using the TV as a source?
FoolMagazine 2 years ago
The Bin Ladens are part of the the Saudi royal family. We wouldn't touch a Bin Laden with a 100 foot pole even if a Bin Laden killed the president on national TV.
The spice must flow...
BanjoNaps 1 year ago
Killing 'bin ladens' (or lack thereof) has nothing to do with loyalties to the family or a notion of its royalty. I'm not certain what the dynamics entail. What I can say... is that after analysis is seems unlikely (improbable), that the American Gov., military, or CIA/FBI are responsible; more improbable: the Taliban, any foreign state or body. However, it does appear to involve some internal conspirator(s). Realize the distraction of this discussion too, over the fact our gov. is vague.
FoolMagazine 1 year ago
812 views 9/14/08
colbyVas 3 years ago
Afghanistan produced around 15 percent of the world's heroin supply prior to our arrival... It is now estimated that they now produce 90% of the world's supply of heroin since our arrival! Coincidence??? NOT! You don't have to dig to far to find evidence that Bush senior while head of the CIA was a major drug trafficker if not the largest in the world. Like father like son.
TeskeRo 3 years ago 4
TeskeRo, the funny thing is that when the Taliban were in power, they BRUTALLY prosecuted heroin users and opium growers. Whereas, the Northern Alliance controlled areas were havens for opium growers. The proceeds with which they funded their arms purchases as taught to do by the CIA during the Russian invasion? Is it any wonder then that, since the Northern Alliance, now known as the Afghan Govt., came to power headed by Ahmed Karzai, heroin production and opium planting has sky rocketed?
Titoscudd 3 years ago
not nearly as much as the fact that it rose from 15% to 90% just since we invaded that country. But thanks for the input. p.s. do a little research into the Bush family's ties to drug smuggling, Barry Seals and the whole contra thing. btw, it's well known the George Bush Sr's peronal private phone number was found in Seals wallet when he was found shot to death. Seals is credited with being the largest drug trafficer in the world and also a cia agent. interesting isn't it? Google it
TeskeRo 3 years ago
@TeskeRo i agree with man. true true true. people a re so fuckin blind, open your eyes everybody
MENDOZZA1011 1 year ago
No way man, I think the rag heads did it.. LMFAO... Ala dinoo babi had all the reckets available to him...
ZaphedBeebleBrox 3 years ago
Is this lerwick Shetlands Scotland
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
Yes, the small island of Shetland! Are you surprised?
DickMunch23 3 years ago
Yes. There is USA actor there.
KNOWYOUNOW 3 years ago
911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB AND THIS IS A FACT!
The 911 commission report is not logical.
"physics" do not lie, "science" is proven fact.
Independent reports on the web are hold the scientific proof of this claim!
The government cannot control the web, do not let it control you!
Demand and independent investigation into 911.
Please Google: 911 truth
quervodrinker 3 years ago
So let's reconstruct the whole thing.
MickeyLove01 4 years ago
None of 911 makes sense unless you see it as the US gov seeking to justify its past policy and criminalise the so-called "Alcaida" group supposedly under the sole power of Bin Laden.
Rather than believe the propapanda machine, for a better measure of the truth buy books by people who have travelled through Afghanistan and Muslim countries, met the people even the Taliban. You will conclude a) there is no fixed target for US aggression and b) they couldn't have done 911 without US collaboration
ringadingadan 4 years ago